Thank you James. I am very grateful for your presentations.

Hi James .. Thank you for your videos 🙏

Tabor may not be the messiah - but he's a great teacher.

I think another reason Mark doesn't get as much attention as Matthew and Luke is that Mark doesn't include conception, birth , or childhood narratives. It _starts_ with Jesus' baptism, giving absolutely no attention to his life _before_ that moment, _and_ it ends with the women running from the tomb in fear...and never telling _anyone_ about the empty tomb. Further evidence that the authors of Matthew and Luke don't _get_ Mark is the fact that their narratives _add_ details seemingly designed to _satisfy the expectation_ of what the Messiah is _supposed_ to be.

@youngknowledgeseeker

24 күн бұрын

I don't know about "never". It says they told no one. How does Mark even know they saw and told no one if they eventually never told anyone?

@OmniphonProductions

23 күн бұрын

@@youngknowledgeseeker I was thinking about this recently, and in my years as a martial artist, I've heard many legends about this or that Chinese fighter who defeated some Japanese fighter, only for the Japanese general overseeing the fight to order all witnesses killed, in order to preserve the honor and reputation of Japan. As with your question, I've always thought, "If nobody was left alive to _tell_ the story, how am I _hearing_ it?" Either somebody survived, or the story is...well...propaganda. I suppose, in the context of Mark, one could interpret/extrapolate that the women told nobody _immediately_ but perhaps _eventually_ mentioned it...maybe after _others_ reported seeing the risen Christ. However, to use a legal objection, this is speculation that assumes facts not in evidence (at least not in Mark, upon which the other Gospels are based). Thus, as with the martial arts legends, I'm left to conclude that the story of the resurrection...along with countless other Bible stories...is not factually accurate.

@youngknowledgeseeker

23 күн бұрын

@@OmniphonProductions Yes, it's an "educated guess", I am inferring it. In fact, all history is inferring. For anyone reading, also keep in mind, Mark was written to already existing Christian audiences who already believed Jesus was resurrected. So I suggest it is reasonable to infer that he expects the audience to know the women eventually *did* speak up about this. They may not have been the initial ones to tell everyone else, but at some point did if not being the first.

@OmniphonProductions

23 күн бұрын

@@youngknowledgeseeker All history in inferring _except_ that which was actually recorded at the time by people who were there...and even that is often shaky at best. Having said that, you make a solid point about writing for an audience that already believes the stories. I would only change one word of your most recent reply. The author of Mark...who was not actually Mark...likely expects the audience to _presume_ the women eventually told others.

I can’t wait for your next course. For many years, I wanted to understand the gospel critically, not theologically, and this course is the lens I was looking for. It helped my think about my faith in Jesus critically and I actually feel more certain what who Jesus was.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@jeffreylehman1159

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 Wow, so many conspiracies, so little evidence.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreylehman1159 Evidence from the Gospel narrative itself telling you who wrote it, when, and in what manner John 21:24 "This is the disciple[whom Jesus loved/ Lazarus] which testifieth of these things, AND WROTE THESE THINGS: and we[Apostles] know that his testimony is true."

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 If all you say is true, what is the end result? What difference does it make, if it does make a difference?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@grantsmythe8625 "What difference does it make 'Jesus' Miracles in Mark Are Not to Show He is the Messiah', if it does make a difference, THAT 'YOU' COME HERE to review people's comments and make whining criticisms?

It was great Dr Tabor, beautiful to experience 190 all together, live, via the “miracle” of Zoom! I’ve one lecture to go still, it’s all been so eye-opening, and hope another Q&A can go ahead in future by popular demand

All can experience Jesus holy spirit Last 30 minutes warning it is intense. All old aches and pains will be washed away

Mark is not only the first "written" Gospel; it is the most literary. Most readers miss that because that because they are expecting something very simple. But that is Peter's language, not Mark's. Mark takes Peter's simply phrased oral Gospel and makes it the core of his written Gospel, except he imposes on Peter's oral Gospel an organization (plot) and his own literary style. That is seen easily in the pericope Tabor mentions: Peter's confession and Jesus' response. The two are one pericope, as Tabor indicates, but they are not as simple as Tabor suggests. Jesus' reply "Get behind me Satan" is not a rebuke of Peter's confession but a correction. It is a point and counter point literary scheme. Point: Jesus is Messiah. Counter point: The Son of Man must suffer, be killed and rise again. The counter point is the correction of Peter's incomplete expectation of Messiah. Peter is not wrong. Mark depicts Jesus as Messiah from beginning to end. But it is a Messiah who came to serve not be served. " For the Son of Man also came not to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” That theme is visible everywhere in Mark and is spoken quite explicitly in many places. But it a mistake to think that service is the only facet of Messiah. Matthew presents Messiah as king. Luke as compassionate Savior. John as Son of God. Those are not contradictory but complementary. Together they present a full picture. I also think it is a mistake to think that Matthew overwrites Mark. There was a lot that Mark (Peter) did not include in his oral Gospel. There were others telling their memories of Jesus. Matthew did not need to depend upon Mark.

Hello. Wish I could join. 🥰I’m with you in spirit I suppose 😁

All I know about this topic is that Jesus was clear that there was something more important than the miracles and the healings... in Luke 5:17-20 he didn't first cure the man but told him his sins are forgiven. Then verses 21-23 are in line with what I sense in this video.

@pds002

Ай бұрын

Another spiritual teacher, said to perform miracles, once said: "I give people what they want to see in order that they may see what I want to give". The message, of course, was vital to convey.

As always, thanks for this. I've purchased the course but haven't completed it. I'm fascinated by the miracles in Mark. I've read "The Jesus Dynasty" but it left me wanting more regarding the miracles. When I've completed the course, I'll start buggin' you for a personal zoom meeting.

I really enjoy James

Thank you

Great video. Would love to hear more from you about the miracle stories.

I am so sorry to have missed the zoom room for the Mark course. I had other obligations (not church! was helping a friend in need) & could not be there. I hope you will hold another session! ❤️ the course.

Jesus came to show us how to have a personal relationship to the Father. That sinless state prior to the fall. He repeatedly says to go forth and sin no more. To sin is to be separated from God. Jesus didn’t want to be worshipped, he wanted to be emulated.

Thank you.

Wonderful.

Just finished the course yesterday! How do I sign up for the Zoom-Room?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

You can learn from me right now - The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@charlesurdy-barnes413

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353Some people have nothing to do in life, but waste the time of others. I guess that is their pitiful calling.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesurdy-barnes413 I haven't wasted your time. You said you wanted to learn. I'm learnin ya.

@youngknowledgeseeker

Жыл бұрын

​@Termi Nation Yes but you never, ever, ever, ever give any evidence or proof for your claim and I've seen your comment 1000 times and have even asked for proof from you. You never give any. You only say "I just told you"

@karinelaxa959

Жыл бұрын

​@@termination9353 oh dear. That's a lot of nonsense. Have you read any church history or biblical scholarship AT ALL?

Wow!

What's the difference between God and Paul Reubens? Paul actually revealed himself in public.

Amen

I would live an episode or more on, how did Jesus do his miracles?

This was an amazing talk Dr Tabor, thank you for presenting us with deep insights.

The Beloved Disciple who wrote the fourth gospel mentions some of the miracles Jesus performed. He did it so that the reader would believe.

Think how obvious the accretion to the narrative would be if the NY books were listed chronologically!

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Ment you will see...

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“Signs” are for the messiah, not the masses. Imagine how much of a mind bender it would be for a sane person to accept the possibility that they are the messiah.

@altonlg24

Жыл бұрын

That's a really interesting thought. Have you considered Samuel and the elders when it stormed after they asked for a king? Did they not receive a sign showing displeasure over them asking for a messianic/anointed king when Yah was their king? Jesus/יהושע tried to get them to turn back to their king. He succeeded with me. Interestingly enough it's because of listening to Jesus/יהושע that I became aware of the false doctrines I inherited claiming he was a deity.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@altonlg24 Jesus was announced as king of Israel in that choice between Jesus and Barabbas. Quickly said, Pilot dressed Jesus up as King, Pilot presented Jesus to the Sanhedrin and high priest among the crowd as "their King". Told the crowd to choose to crucify "their King" or Barabbas. The Saducees and High Priest chose "their king" Jesus to be crucified and instigated the Jewish crowd to choose "their King" to be crucified..... and so the Priesthood anointed Jesus as their king in order for him to be executed. And Pilat published this fact above Jesus head at a time when Jerusalem was most crowded of Jews from all over the realm. What this accomplished was to legalize according to Torah law Jesus' amended covenant and make irrelevant all burdensome Talmudic rules. I think Jesus and Pilat planned it together. Neet trick on the Sanhedrin huh.

@Trainwhrek

Жыл бұрын

​@@termination9353 how would have that amended and changed the covenant in this setting? Were they using a covenant different from the one found in exodus and deuteronomy at that time?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@Trainwhrek By the fact that according to the Old Test a Davidic King has the authority to rule over the Covenant. Thing is the public has to know who the Davidic King IS in order to know who's "hallachic" rulings are to be followed. Hence the whole trial and crucifixion ordeal. - The original covenant had been espionage infiltrated with imposters and criminal burdensome rulings - like sentencing a member of God's beloved royal family to death. -Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: -Jeremiah 31:31

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

A person realizes he's the Messiah the same moment he realizes he's the only sane person left standing.

Dont tell anyone is a way to.have everyone know but just you

For the Iesu-Mari.

Miracles alone never proved anything. Many had performed miracles before Jesus. Even resurrections.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

But the rabbis were asking for a "sign".

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 :Matthew 12:38 Then as an answer to him, some of the scribes and the Pharisees said: “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 In reply he said to them: “A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Joʹnah the prophet. 40 For just as Joʹnah was in the belly of the huge fish for three days and three nights, so the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. Jesus made clear that the Jewish Religious leaders were determined to not accept him as the Messiah although they knew quite well he was. (Same story today). Luke 16:31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.’” The miracles Jesus did was a prototype of what he will accomplish for all obedient humans under his rulership (cf Revelation 21:3,4). The nation of Israel who left Egypt were witnesses to God' power and miracles. Wasn't long before they had forgotten all that.

"I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see". The lyrics contain the metaphorical language - for us to be transformed, "reborn", so to speak, illuminated, enlightened, to become like him. Since I don't have access to your course, I don't really know what you mean by the miracles (that is, IF they were literally miracles) not being intended to prove Jesus was the messiah. Perhaps Jesus was merely showing compassion for suffering folks? They may also have just been useful for getting people to take him seriously. "Now that I've got your attention ...."

I am very disappointed 😞 that I will not be able to attend the live session 😢. I have an online conference on March 4th and 5th.

Shit, I just figured that the gospel of Mark actually painted Jesus as a proto gnostic/mandeans lord of light type person.

Mark and the Fourth gospel (called 'according to John') are the ones worth bothering with. Luke has the Martha / Mary pericopes, and Q is evident in all four, but you want the roots, go to Mark and the oldest strata in John. And THOMAS

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Absolutely take the miracles out and believe,in God who is christs father and our father, that what he said ,my father and your father, simple applies to us all.to believe know God is our father ,the rest is the gospel writers getting a bit carried away.

That may have been the intent, but it backfired all to hell.

Peter does get it who do you say iam. Peter says the son of the living god

We follow two commands thar Jesus gave us is to Love Our Heavenly Father with our whole heart and mind and to Love Others as we Love Ourselves. If all followed these two Commandments this life on this earth would be Better.❤❤😂😊❤❤

@frankgraham1996

6 ай бұрын

What about people who hate themselves?

@pds002

Ай бұрын

@@frankgraham1996 Those who hate themselves have often lacked love from others. In Shirley's recommendation, above, if everyone was to show each other love, the one who hates him/herself would come to love themselves and thus be able to love others in the same way.

@frankgraham1996

Ай бұрын

@@pds002 Jesus drove the money changers out of the temple because they were EVIL and despicable in the eyes of God. He did not tell them that what you do is acceptable because I love you as I do all sinners. So too must we who walk in the light fight a never ending battle for truth, God's justice, and the way of our lord and savior. There is true EVIL in this world that is real and cannot be loved.

It is to show he ups on the obsolete Twin ; Eather (atmosphere, winds) and Pontus (ocean, waves). The surrounding atmosphere and ocean compare to the realm of the boanerges, the 4 corners as the hide out of the fallen angels, the rulers of the current aeon (time-period) .

@ronaldaguilar3832

9 ай бұрын

Do you surf?

Canaanite deity, Ba'al.

Heresy! Heresy did not start today.

Unbelievable was he could give without losing anything . Unbelievable self proclaimed ego arrogant masters in Deceiving self and

Thank you! I find it amazing about the true sign being the resurrection,as Satan will use this sign to reveal the antichrist in the end. Rev. 13: 2-4 Jesus warned about the false signs and wonders, because that will be the main reason that people will worship the antichrist! Rev. 13: 11- 14. Also 2 Thessalonians 2: 3-12, Matthew 24: 24+25, and Rev. 19: 20.

Mark is Pauling - look at the conclusion - how to know who believes - miracles, etc. Matthew - learn the will of God and repent to do it. Observe and do the will of the Father.

Don't blame it on Greeks

@dadedowuh

Жыл бұрын

;))

3:45 Dr. Dennis MacDonald's book on mimesis with Homer's epics and the gospels points that the calming of the wind and sea that Jesus does is superior to the storm in the Odyssey as Odysseus claims he can calm the sea but not the wind as he is only a son of Poseidon. I thought this would be interesting to show that Jesus is being portrayed as a superior demigod/son of a god by Mark.

Were his miracles “sarcastic” wit?

It would be pointless and stupid to literally walk on water and to document it This is why they are allegorical For instance the ocean represents the subconscious so to write about the ocean means they are referring to the subconscious not the literal ocean.

Jesus affirmed Peter's statement that he is the Messiah clearly BUT he did not affirm Peter's view as to what the Messiah meant. That's what the disciples and the Jews got wrong, I.e. their concept of Messiah.

@pikaskillz6625

Жыл бұрын

His messed up understanding is his own non Believer Perspective. All the people who don't believe believe that jesus is not the christ . Christ is King of kings jesus of the christ ,The rock the bread of life the beginning and the end the alpha and the omega Jesus describes himself as the messiah and in the old testimate he is Everywhere everywhere Everywhere.

The Spirit of YHWH informed me to only believe the Gospels of John and Luke. It also informed me again that Matthew was written by a Rector. I had to look this word up. So at some time it was an adulterated work by someone who thought they new better or wanted to put across a Christian political narrative. Have had no mention on why not to trust the Gospel of Mark. To my understanding the Gospel of John is literally the Gospel of Christ. He is the Witness of Christ in the flesh Son of Man with the seven spirits of the Father Not the Holy Spirit alone but Spirit of Truth, Healing etc. as in Revelations. On the other hand Luke is also a witness but what i believe Christians don't get is, "What is he witness too?" They believe he supports Paul/Saul but on the contrary he witnesses the macabre behaviour of Paul in the Street, for example his disdain for people in the Holy Ghost (YHWH) warning him not to do certain things, shaving his head and continually showing Paul/Saul's own witness to himself in a contradictory lie. Why would Roman soldiers afraid to have injured a Roman citizen send him into the Jewish Priests and allow them to strike. attempt to strike him. So if John is the Witness for Christ is Luke Witness to the Antichrist. A lot of Paul's letters defamation against Peter and paranoia about people following him to undo his work, his humility (nothing in line with an anointed). Nothing to counter any of his allegations. All the time no accepted or remaining letters from the Twelve apostles (Jesus anointed them in the Way as he was in the I am the Way of the Father, they're not Christian). Could it even be they who were undoing his work. Satan tempted Jesus in the desert and said he had authority to give to who at another time. Jesus warned of someone that will follow. Basically should Gentiles be curcumsised and how much Greek philosophy paganism did Paul use in his writings to convert Greeks to worship his new Jesus Christ against all that Jesus said to Satan in the desert.

Perhaps the messianic secret has something to do with the ancient idea that someone who knows your true identity can have power over you?

@johnmichaelson9173

Жыл бұрын

There are supposed to be two Messiah's a king with a priest at his side. The king from the Davidic line & the priest from the line of Aaron.

You no man of understanding seen self as the forth in heaven and five stand as one why running mouth

Not to show he was the Messiah, but if he does miracles and also says keep the decalogue and teaches Torah, then you are to listen to him. Deuteronomy 13:1-18 (KJV) If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proves you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you. If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

These represent the resurrection in Isaiah 40:3 - A worm attacks the gourd plant. I am a worm and not a man, Ps 22:7. The sun beats down on his head. Thus begins the way of the Lord in the desert. like a shoot from the parched (barren, dry, desert) earth (Isa 53:2 NABO) These represent the sacrifice, day of the Lord, wrath of the lamb, day of vengeance AS judgment, being 'made to be sin' for which comes the need for the way of the Lord in the desert. There is a baptism with which I must be baptized, and how great is my anguish until it is accomplished! "I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing! (Luk 12:49-50 NABO) For by my wrath a fire is enkindled that shall rage to the depths of the nether world, Consuming the earth with its yield, and licking with flames the roots of the mountains. (Deu 32:22 NABO) Down I went to the roots of the mountains; the bars of the nether world were closing behind me forever (Jon 2:7 NABO) Who will go down into the netherworld (abyss)?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)." (Rom 10:7 NABO)

Imagine knowing every EVERY detail of the whole scriptures from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 and still miss the KNOWLEDGE.

@DerSteppenwolfe

Ай бұрын

Imagine being the internet guy who claims he knows more than a professor who has studied this for more than half a decade. What are your credentials?

@springflowerblosomnorris9721

Ай бұрын

@@DerSteppenwolfe The truth are my credentials.

@jonathansmiddy7224

Ай бұрын

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@shawncoleman8530

Ай бұрын

What knowledge did he miss? Please don't conflate doctrinal teaching from religion as "knowledge" or "truth". There are 2 systems at play. The intention of the authors vs the interpretation of religion. The best quote for this is: "objective truth is true regardless of whether you believe it or not."

@springflowerblosomnorris9721

Ай бұрын

@@shawncoleman8530 Ya, that's perfectly correct. Many people don't realize they read the book but never have a RELATIONSHIP with the AUTHOR of the book.

Get yr free all old aches and pains washed away. Last 30 min is intense. A gift from Jesus for all.

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@kriskanapo9282

9 ай бұрын

The reviews are even better.

If you don't understand Isaiah 62:2, Isaiah 40:3, and Phillipians 2:9-10, Rev. 3-12 you will never understand who the true messiah was and it wasn't a second prophet after. John the Baptizer. The greatest to EVER live. He wasJohn the Revelator as well. Revelation 1.

I noticed that Mark closes with a couple of people who, also, seem instructed not to speak of their experience. If I were Sherlock Holmes with my magnifier, I would insist that Jesus had his fingerprints on this also.

@youngknowledgeseeker

Жыл бұрын

The women are not instructed not to tell anyone?

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

Mark 16:7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter, ‘He is going ahead of you into Galʹi·lee. You will see him there, just as he told you.’” 8 So when they came out, they fled from the tomb, trembling and overwhelmed with emotion. And they said nothing to anyone, for they were in fear. The instructions to the women was to speak. But fear prevented them. Of course when the fear had abated they would have followed the instructions.

@paigerasmussen5212

Жыл бұрын

​@@tongakhan230 and yet everyone found out. So they kept quiet but only for a very short while before they spread the gospel -- probably following the instructions.

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

@@paigerasmussen5212 : When someone is in a state of shock or struck by fear, they will come back to normal after a while.

What about that Webinar you promised? I have been watching all your announcements and never saw an announcement about your Webinar. I will never waste my money again with you guys.

too much talk at the beginning.

The Jewish mind would NOT interpret miracles of any kind that the miracle working man was God himself. The Jewish mind knows that God is one Lord..and would interpret such events as god working thru said Prophet

James the Messiah & Derek the Baptizer! ❤

If Jesus could do all that with a few fish, just imagine what he could do with a KFC bucket!

@Isaac5123

Жыл бұрын

What are you doing on here?

@briancarton1804

10 ай бұрын

@@Isaac5123 If he had a microwave he could have done a lot more.

@Isaac5123

10 ай бұрын

@@briancarton1804 what are you doing on here?

@briancarton1804

10 ай бұрын

@@Isaac5123 Having fun , there is no god , no point pretending there is.

@Isaac5123

10 ай бұрын

@@briancarton1804 I don't feel sad that you have no God in yr life. I am so happy that my God is with me all the time. Blessings to you. OH by the way I'm not pretending anything there is no point in that ☺

how then are we to understand Luke 7 "When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached."

There will be no sign given except for the sign of Jonah. So we believe Mark but not Matthew. OK got that. John the Baptist when in prison, inquired of Jesus are you he who is to come, or do we seek another (paraphrased). Jesus' answer? “Go back to John and tell him what you have seen and heard-the blind see, the lame walk, those with leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised to life, and the Good News is being preached to the poor.”

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

The Jewish religious leaders wanted a sign not to convince themselves but to test him. There were plenty of signs being witnessed. Jesus knew their hearts were stubborn (cf Luke 16:31). What Jesus instructed for John the Baptizer was for a different purpose. John was the Elijah promised who would pave the way for the Messiah. If one reads John's words, it will be clear.

He opened their eyes to the truth, he told them the truth aka cured the blind and the deaf. He gave them the truth and brought their spirit to life aka brought people from death. He fed them knowledge aka bread. He walked on water, he walked above the sea or above the people walking in darkness! He cast out demons, aka evil ideas! It’s all symbolism for those who can hear, who seek the truth! For those who believe in magic or witchcraft or religion!

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@evropej

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 Why doesnt anyone know of this? Do you have a link to the document? I can usually stop the lies a mile away.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@evropej Who says nobody else knows of this? The general world doesn't know.... but there are fellow conspirators that do know. Youboob doesn't allow me to post links here. Fact is it says so in the Gospel ITSELF to start with... John 21:24 "This is the disciple[whom Jesus loved/ Lazarus] which testifieth of these things, AND WROTE THESE THINGS: and we[Apostles] know that his testimony is true."

@evropej

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 Send me an email with the links, evropej atttt geee maail.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@evropej sent - did you get it?

Reading the Bible should make the reader a master of discernment between Good and Evil. Unfortunately most readers can't tell the difference between Genesis 1 God and Genesis 2 Devil. Try using the NOG translation. It's important to read the Bible with the Names of God unaltered/unchanged. If you're ever unsure that Yahweh Elohim from Genesis 2 is the Devil then simply search for usages of the terms Ruach Elohim and Ruach Yahweh (be sure you're using the NOG translation). Polar opposite Spirits from polar opposite entities.

@ready1fire1aim1

4 ай бұрын

@@ClockRadio25 *"It is impossible for a contradictory thing to be true.* A non-contradictory thing could be true or could be false depending on context but at least has the *possibility* of being true." -me, I said that ❌️Contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (Knowing Good; Functions; limit built into every operation)❌️: 1. The Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character are the exact same character. 2. Zero is not fundamental and nonzero numbers are fundamental (Newton calculus). 3. 0D is not locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are locally real (Newton physics). ✅️Non-contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (Knowing Good from Evil; Relations defined by constraints; limit is a separate operation)✅️: 1. The Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character are polar opposite characters. 2. Zero is fundamental and nonzero numbers are not fundamental (Leibniz calculus). 3. 0D is locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are not locally real (Leibniz physics). [🐶Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Religion]: Interpreting the Bible with the Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character as the exact same character generates near 70,000 contradictions (see reason project) and requires heavy apologetics. A Bible interpretation which includes near 70,000 contradictions (impossible to be true) is what a snake-oil salesman would sell you. 🐍 [🐴Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Science]: The standard model of physics is Einstein's 3+1 space-time, which are considered locally real, where 0 is considered not locally real...been that way since Newton for zero vs nonzero numbers. Problem is...quantum physics proved the observable universe (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) is actually not locally real...and that was over a year ago! 🦧 [Layman's terminology of locally real vs not locally real]: locally real = more real (Leibniz said "necessary") not locally real = less real (Leibniz said "contingent") [Closing arguments]: The Materialism/Empiricism package brings with it all the contradictions, false dichotomies, paradoxes and literally "life's biggest questions". It's been a year why is everyone still using Logic, Calculus and Geometry that is contradictory at the most fundamental level? If both Religion and Science removed their "Materialist/Empiricist-perspective shades 👓" and put on their "Realist-perspective shades 👓" they would not only cease to argue...they'd agree with each other (world first 🪙).

@ClockRadio25

4 ай бұрын

@@ready1fire1aim1 yea I’m not reading that. Please refrain from using that name end of story

@ready1fire1aim1

4 ай бұрын

@@ClockRadio25 I deny the divinity of Yah. Deciever. Yahweh Elohim = always the bad guy Yahweh (Yah) = always the bad guy Elohim = could be the good guy or the bad guy depending on context (possessive "God's" or plural "gods"). Remove your head from your butt.

Ment He will be our God.

So just to be clear, according to Mark Jesus is not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy?

@dadedowuh

Жыл бұрын

What?

@philipcone357

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. Mark starts by asserting that Jesus is the Messiah. But Mark is all about the signs as not being the important part.

@dadedowuh

Жыл бұрын

@@philipcone357 I'll never understand the writing word and how it's supposed to help me. I try to, I really do.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@dadedowuh

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 didn't the pope owe them money?

James please explain to the christian audience, that Messiah means annointed and exactly the same meaning as Christ, many people are annointed from above this falicy that only one person waa ever to be the annointed one is just a Christian lie!

I love so much of what you do James, but I think you miss the humanity and simpleness of the disciples of Jesus, and the confusion they faced with trying to understand who Jesus was, especially when Jesus instructed his disciples not to tell others that he is the promised anointed one of YHVH. There is also a danger of viewing Mark in isolation and adhering to the view it is the earliest text, and claiming that Matthew and Luke copied it. Please note, I am acutely aware of the scholarly arguments in favour of this view but I personally don’t agree with it. Few people mention that the MSS evidence for Mark is the weakest of all 4 gospels which is strange considering it is meant to be the earliest. More broadly, the NT testifies that Jesus is the prophet like Moses, starting first with Philip, then Jesus himself, then Peter, Stephen and Paul, and I believe Jesus again in the book of Rev when he is described as having a sword in his mouth ie the word of God. The unique thing about the prophecy in deut 18:15-18 is that it gives us an objective series of metrics to judge if someone is the prophet like Moses. Moses did many great miracles. Moses had an extraordinary relationship with YHVH. Moses was an Israelite etc. I won’t go through all the attributes one would have to display before one could be considered to be in the class of ‘a prophet like Moses’ . Simply displaying one or two attributes does not in my humble opinion qualify anyone to claim that title. Finally, the critical distinction between Moses and the prophet that god almighty would raise up is not that this prophet would also do great miracles like Moses, set his people free, but this prophet would have the word of God infused in his being in a way no human had previously experienced. The miracles are an important part to this claim by Jesus, not directly to bring the anointed one in detail but rather in bring the prophet like Moses, who was it transpires also the one YHVH would call his anointed son.

Why I should believe your teory? What good things you have done for people hurt, poor, no job, mental illness? Which one better, you or Jesus?

I agree with James. The Gospel of Mark doesn't try to show Jesus is the Messiah. I think it serves to show Jesus as YHWH. For example, Psalm 107 says that YHWH calls the storms with his voice and Job 9:8 say that YHWH walks upon the waters. Powerful stuff. I think Mark jumps over the entire Messiah issue and goes straight to YHWH is with us.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@rootbeerkid944 Thanks - except I go further and say Lazarus wrote all of it ( and Acts) as one book. There was never originally multiple gospels by the disciples. Only the adulteration of the original by Roman espionage, for the behest of the Pharisees and Sadducees, is what produced the 4 we have today.

@marijancorluka4500

Жыл бұрын

​@@termination9353 Okay, give us this original "true" gospel by Lazarus.

@marijancorluka4500

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the whole Bible shows that Yashua is YHWH.

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@TheDanEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a Dan Brown plot for Hollywood.

@dallasswoveland4466

Жыл бұрын

What do you think this "Gospel of Jesus" scroll was? Any of it to be found in the publicly available literature?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@dallasswoveland4466 I've used the 4 Gospels Mat mark Luke John and reconstructed sewed them together back together as Lazarus originally wrote it. They call this 'harmonizing' the Gospels. In my effort to construct a Harmonized "Study" Gospel I discovered I wasn't creating something new... I was reconstructing something back to what was old...original. I have published this Gospel of Jesus available at Rainforest and Barnes not so Noble and free color pictures pdf. at my Link ed in. But youboob won't allow me to post links.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDanEdwards JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27 25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.] 27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.

@epicofgilgamesh9964

Жыл бұрын

*"Neither the evangelists nor their first readers engaged in historical analysis. Their aim was to confirm Christian faith (Lk. 1.4; Jn. 20.31). Scholars generally agree that the Gospels were written forty to sixty years after the death of Jesus. They thus do not present eyewitness or contemporary accounts of Jesus’ life and teachings.* Unfortunately, much of the general public is not familiar with scholarly resources like the one quoted above; instead, Christian apologists often put out a lot of material, such as The Case For Christ, targeted toward lay audiences, who are not familiar with scholarly methods, in order to argue that the Gospels are the eyewitness testimonies of either Jesus’ disciples or their attendants. *The mainstream scholarly view is that the Gospels are anonymous works, written in a different language than that of Jesus, in distant lands, after a substantial gap of time, by unknown persons, compiling, redacting, and inventing various traditions, in order to provide a narrative of Christianity’s central figure-Jesus Christ-to confirm the faith of their communities."* *As scholarly sources like the Oxford Annotated Bible note, the Gospels are not historical works (even if they contain some historical kernels).* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* Also, look up: *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*

None of this has been forgotten actual believing biblical scholars know these things and more

Apostle James Tabor with his NEW Gospel of James Tabor but this time its gonna be different, this time you'll have to pay for the "Gospel", I mean his Gospels...

@paigerasmussen5212

Жыл бұрын

He's a professor, not priest

Dr Tabor, on cell phones, space is limited for video titles. The first 3 words of this video’s title add nothing and push more meaningful words out of view. You don’t ever want us to be fooled, correct? The phrase detracts from the title due to its lack of utility and space issues.

The miracles in the Bible are metaphors for illumination, the pineal gland and becoming one with God. The wedding , Lazerous, many many more. The baptism by John especially describes it perfect. When you understand that is what they are describing you see it everywhere even the age 33 .

Carefully reading each gospel? Friend. Explain why Matthew 28: v19 confirms Acts 2: v38 and Acts 19: v5 Friend. The principal of in the mouth of two or three witnesses means we connect different writings of the forty different authors. Such that false teaches cannot say that Matthew 28: v19 by itself is the full understanding of a water baptismal phrase

The sign of Jonah is misrepresented. The sign of Jonah was repent or go to destruction as a nation. Difference is Nineveh did repent largely due to Amos’ oracle of the earthquake of 760 B.C. Whereas Judea killed him instead. Jonah warned in 40 yoms (can mean days or years) Nineveh would be wiped out. 40 years after Christ ministered the Romans obliterated Jerusalem. The whole seas creature and Jonah are a misrepresentation. See John the Baptist. He too cried out for the people to repent. Think about this 😮

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

And the Pharisees along with the Sadducees came forth and began to question with him, desiring him that he would shew them a sign, tempting him, saying, Master, we would see a sign from heaven. And Jesus sighed deeply in his spirit and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? And he answering them saith, When it is evening ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. O Ye hypocrites can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern the signs of this time? And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation. The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and behold, a greater than Solomon is here. The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and behold, a greater than Jonas is here. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. And when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished Then goeth he and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

How did one come up with this theory? If I could query. All the prophets kept asking Israel to repent.

Another Galilean rabbi, Honi the Circle Maker, also did miracles, but no one ever suggested that was Messianic. Prophets do miracles. Honi and Jesus appear to have been Galilean Wunderrebbes.

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

Mars (the youngster, Yhonias) path is reversed sometimes, like making circles, he is curly like Crispus and crazy like a peddler or juggler. psalm 119 : 9

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was announced as king of Israel in that choice between Jesus and Barabbas. Quickly said, Pilot dressed Jesus up as King, Pilot presented Jesus to the Sanhedrin and high priest among the crowd as "their King". Told the crowd to choose to crucify "their King" or Barabbas. The Saducees and High Priest chose "their king" Jesus to be crucified and instigated the Jewish crowd to choose "their King" to be crucified..... and so the Priesthood anointed Jesus as their king in order for him to be executed. And Pilat published this fact above Jesus head at a time when Jerusalem was most crowded of Jews from all over the realm. What this accomplished was to legalize according to Torah law Jesus' amended covenant and make irrelevant all burdensome Talmudic rules. I think Jesus and Pilat planned it together. Neet trick on the Sanhedrin huh.

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 Pontius Pilatus = Axis Mundi = Simon Magnus = Judas Iskariot

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@willempasterkamp862 Nonsense

Mark was whack!

I'd say he was calling Satan Satan, because who would want for Peter to try preventing the sacrifice?

@edwarnock9884

Жыл бұрын

The Idea of there being one "Satan" is an incorrect assumption by most people who read the Bible. The word "saw tawn" the pronunciation of the Hebrews for what is translated as "Satan" simply means, opponent, adversary, or enemy. In the English translations it was capitalized as if it were a name, but really it is a descriptor of the personality and its properties in relation to in this case Jesus. In an example of this today we would refer to a competitive nation opposing our nation as "the enemy." As far as I can see, the word first appears in the Hebrew text we call the Bible in I Chronicles 21:1. When David is convinced, he should count or number the people of Israel in direct opposition to God's command in Leviticus. When Jesus says this to Peter, He is not calling Peter "the Devil," He is saying Peter's expression of his feelings on the matter are opposed to the will of the Father, and the path set by the Father for Jesus to walk out. The Apostle Paul speaks of this very thing in depth when He states the "carnal" man is "enmity" against the Father and speaks about the "crucifixion" of our fleshly or human oriented thinking. Instead, Paul exhorts us to live by faith and "walk in the Spirit of God," being transformed into the "mind of Christ." In another place He says to be imitators of God as His dear children. Something interesting that I came across in a conversation with someone involved in the occult. They laughed at the idea of the existence of a spirit named "Satan." They emphatically stated that there are many spirits with many names but no Satan. In fact, all who are in opposition to the person of the Creator Father and His Son are satan, (opponents, adversaries or enemies) whether they be flesh or spirit.

@entelechy777

Жыл бұрын

@@edwarnock9884 Oh, I don't assume that it is a singular being, but rather it's the collective gathered under one banner. And it was a notion. I wasn't saying he was calling Peter that, but rather it was that he was being adversarial to the work of God. I've known that it just means adversary or opponent. That instance struck me as one where there could be a double-meaning, not a contradictory one, but rather that by saying he would die in order to keep Yahusha from death it essentially played into the grander idea of 'Satan'.

@entelechy777

Жыл бұрын

@@edwarnock9884 Even 'devil' just means 'traducer, slanderer, violator'. I view it as being the oppositional body to the Body though, the body of antichrist and the collective of spirits that animate it. If there's a body collectively known as 'satan', then it has a head as well, or multiple for that matter. Antipas, whose name means 'against father', was martyred in Lyon-Geneva. Revelation says that's where the Satan, HaYalal the Wailing Howler (or Halal in the negative: Insane Prideful Braggart; Yahusha is the Phosphoros, 2 Peter 1:19) and king of Babylon (confusion by mixture), in the sense of the primordial serpent and that being which was once a covering cherub, rules from.

What is the conclusion here? That Jesus was the Messiah or that he was not?

@ekkuseu3164

5 ай бұрын

That Is not the point of the video. If You want to interpret Jesus' life as that of the messiah, You can do it. Dr. Tabor is just explaining what the author of Mark wants to say.

@Marge719

5 ай бұрын

I see. This video is yet another effort to disprove Jesus Christ was - and still is - The Messiah.

@Marge719

5 ай бұрын

i appreciate an answer though, after 4 month. So thank you@@ekkuseu3164 The auther himself did not bother to reply.

@ekkuseu3164

5 ай бұрын

@@Marge719 You are free to believe that. Dr. Tabor is not trying to disprove any of your beliefs. He is just exposing what the writter of Mark wanted to say.

@Marge719

5 ай бұрын

"Exposing" is a little bold, quite frankly. His interpretation of what he thinks Mark wanted to say is more adequate, in all fairness. I for one know how pragmatic God is in his word, for the most part. ESPECIALLY when it comes to the Gospels. To keep it simple for everyone to understand, because it is so crucial.

Who is this mark, he is not even an apostle or disciple of Jesus, where does he come from?

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

Mark was a young man who was an eyewitness to Jesus' Messiah appointed life. Mark later became a Christian and a faithful companion to Paul in spreading the Good News. Acts 12:25 As for Barʹna·bas and Saul, after fully carrying out the relief work in Jerusalem, they returned and took along with them John, the one also called Mark.

@fordprefect5304

Жыл бұрын

@@tongakhan230 Mark was a phony name assigned the a codex written around 70CE by an unknown Rioman. Nothing more.

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

@@fordprefect5304 : Are these words from someone who lived in the First Century or words of someone who has got scammed by fake websites? Getting scammed on this 21st Century is a possibility. Remaining scammed is by choice. Why would someone else's name be assigned to a document written by another? Considering the fact that Mark was active in the Acts of the Apostles written by the historian Luke.

@fordprefect5304

Жыл бұрын

@@tongakhan230 by the way Luke was also written around 90 CE by an unknown Roman Please read a history book with real Verifiable facts

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

@@fordprefect5304 : If the Bible is causing conscience problems, just ignore it. Billions of people don't believe the Bible. They do not look around for excuses to not believe. Unless someone knows it is the Truth and wants to exculpate himself from responsivity by putting the blame on others. "But the scholars said that the Bible is corrupt. I just believed them."

Why Jesus have to be crucified? Just because for lies ?

@skippy675

Жыл бұрын

Didn't have to. Legend has it that his Daddy insisted he be crucified because Daddy dearest demanded a slaughter to atone for sin. Daddy couldn't forgive without first throwing a temper tantrum on his own son.

I understand the miracles of Jesus to prove he is greater than Moses. Moses walked THROUGH water, Jesus could walk ON water. Moses fed them manna, Jesus fed loaves AND fishes, etc

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't equate or add up. And Jesus outright denied he was God numerous times.

@republiccooper

Жыл бұрын

Job 9:8: YHWH walks on water as if it were dry land. I think Mark goes straight to "Jesus is God with us."

@jojones4685

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 when does he?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@jojones4685 Jesus said "The words that I tell you are not my own but proceed from the Father" Jesus said "I came down from heaven not to do MY OWN will but the will of my father who sent me" Jesus said he didn't have the authority to decide who sits on his left or right hand but is prepared of by the Father. Jesus said "The Father is greater than I" Jesus said not to call him good sir for only God is good. Jesus said " I go to my Father and your Father, to my God and to your God.... so how does it make any sense that "God" has to go anywhere to be with himself? ABSURD! and how absurd is it to be claiming that God is praying to himself since Jesus prayed to the Father.

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

Humans cannot effect miracles. All those were what God did THROUGH human agencies. Actually Moses and the Israelites walked on a dry bed of land. The water didn't effect their movements. Jesus walked on water so did Peter.

What is a false prophet these days

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate on what you are asking?

@republiccooper

Жыл бұрын

Anyone sent but not by the H. Spirit. Most are in church, I guess, but some are also politicians and academics.

@Moe-xg6bu

Жыл бұрын

@@republiccooper is one man of understanding known out a whore a man . Said none could understand until the end of the age . Trust none many false prophets . Says exactly how to test this moment yet deaf ears when spoke plain . He did it to show he gave his life

@Moe-xg6bu

Жыл бұрын

@@republiccooper Jeremiah was gnostic and returned as Jeremy out womb seen self as the forth in heaven walked the golden Path cause and effect the old Way Path to the father cause and effect known to the true virgin mother creator and won't taste death . Married the father out womb known to the true virgin mother he will understand the world and be proclaimed three times over before he was born three times three times over out womb and in man born the living untouchable Son of Man won't taste death .given Amnesty from law nature's and God's see to shining sea canon to canon in-laws above married the father out womb a Trinity three in one whole in one known to be true virgin mother creator married the father a Trinity three in one seen self as the forth in heaven Spirit before the body found the body became a Corps in law Corp law enslaved the world .

@Moe-xg6bu

Жыл бұрын

@@republiccooper I known as out a road whore a man of steel connector out womb in 7 months mom in labor 3.5 days two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one many . Out womb three in one whole in the purple and gold state five stand as one known to be All proclaimed three times over before I was born undeniably proclaimed out womb and in man born the living Son of Man won't taste death

what Jesus meant in Mark is the meaning of what he said "the Father is in me"..Jesus of nazareth said believe in his WORD he is saying because he dont speak on his OWN..that the WORD is not from him but from the One who sent him,the Father..the Father is the WORD, and in John, the beginning is the WORD(Father),and the WORD(Father) is with God, the WORD(Father) is GOD.. thats why it was said in Hebrew the son man INHERITED the name..because Jesus of nazareth said in John5:43 He came in his Father's name→the name he inherited "Jesus/Yeshua".. thats why Jesus of nazareth said in John17:3 this is eternal life: Now that they know YOU,the only TRUE GOD and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.. God send himself to Jesus of nazareth as a spirit that possess his body..thats why when Jesus of nazareth answered them "im not demon-possessed" means he was possessed but not by a demon but the spirit of the Father.. when peter rebuke Jesus, it was satans work to stop Jesus of nazareth to fulfill the scripture..so he will fail and bring the faith of the people..because peoples faith that time is they depends to the scripture that if the scripture happen, they will believe..that is why Jesus of nazareth need to fulfill the scripture..and fulfilling the scripture will realized the truth of the old testament lies.. this the reason why other people who stays from the old teaching doesnt want to believe the Jesus of nazareth as messiah or son of God..if you read the bible, you will understand why Jesus of nazareth never said he was a God..because the Father is the true Jesus Christ..

@tongakhan230

Жыл бұрын

Jesus never said that he was God as didn't Moses, David and others BECAUSE they were NOT GOD, naturally. How can Jesus be his own Father? The Father is God. John 4:23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship HIM. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping HIM must worship with spirit and truth.” Jesus using the thirst person pronoun HIM was not about himself but a reference to God.

@maizen5267

Жыл бұрын

@@tongakhan230 the name Jesus is from the Father, not Jesus of nazareth own name.. he is not the Father it was Jesus who owns the name.. the only TRUE GOD and true Jesus Christ.. the father is in him.. spirit of Jesus Christ the Father is in Jesus of nazareth body..

@tongakhan230

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@@maizen5267 : Jesus and Joshua share the same name in two languages. There were others named Jesus in Jesus' time. God's unique name is Jehovah. Jehovah is the ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3, Psalms 83:18 KJV). Jesus and others are those SENT by God. This may help. (John 4:34) Jesus said to them: “My food is to do the will of him WHO SENT ME and to finish HIS WORK. No one SENDS God on missions. God is the one who does the SENDING. Note that Jesus didn't come on a mission of his own. God SENT him to carry out God's Will. Thus, we are talking about two separate individuals.

The Mark of the Devil

@Joe1qz

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LOL

My comments keep getting deleted Free speech please?!

The jewish messiah is not God just a servant of God. Jesus is God.

@invisiblegorilla8631

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according to who? Mark clearly thinks he is the Messiah. Mark 1:1 (NIV) 'The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God'

@francissweeney7318

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@@invisiblegorilla8631 The Jewish Messiah is not the Son of God, but a servant of God. You are mistaken.

@tongakhan230

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The Messiah is the one whom God would SEND. Jesus was SENT by God. Jesus was never God. Not even for a millisecond. These scriptures would help. (John 4:34) Jesus said to them: “My food is to do the will of him who SENT ME and to finish HIS WORK. (1 John 4:12) No one has seen God at any time.

@epicofgilgamesh9964

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Jesus was a failed apocalyptic prophet. Jesus as a failed apocalyptic prophet is the general consensus of critical scholarship, even critical Christian scholars like Dale Allison. The Son of Man (Jesus himself?) was supposed to be an end of the world arbiter, as Bart Ehrman points out in his lecture referenced below, and as the Bible states he was supposed to come *within the lifetime* of Jesus’s followers. *It didn't happen.* Read the article from the former Christian apologist and Tim O'Neill (former Christian), who has been studying the scholarship and history for decades, referenced below as well. *Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century* For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*** Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28 Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27 Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30 The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32 *Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.* Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened. ***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.*** According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God) How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22 *Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin* Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal) You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62 Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing. *Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel* Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51 *Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.* The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. *Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23) Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, look up the following. *"End Times - Evil Bible .com"* *"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"* *"ex-apologist: Notes: Assessing The Case for an Apocalyptic Jesus in Ehrman’s Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium"* *"Jesus the Apocalyptic Prophet - History for Atheists"* (Tim O'Neill is a former Christian and is familiar with most of the Biblical scholarship. He's been studying the scholarship and history for decades) *"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*

@francissweeney7318

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@@epicofgilgamesh9964 Your Islamic consenses of pathetic scholarship is propaganda and inconsistent with the evidence. There is zero archeologic evidence that Islam existed prior to 700 AD. Show the world your evidence. The future of Islam was prophesied 1300 years before Muhammad was born in 570 AD. Ezemiel 38-39. Islam and Magog soon will attack Israel and God will destroy them leaving only 1/6 to repent or die. It will take 7 months for you to bury your dead. Thus saith the Lord.

Mark demonstrates Jesus is LORD YHWH the one and same from the Old Testament.

Tabor, you don't understand what these people in the scriptures are talking with each other about. Notice I didn't say "I feel that you don't understand" or that I think you "might not understand". If you believe what you are saying then you really do not understand fully what you are talking about. I know that you have been privileged and privy to a lifetime of academic study, but you are in error so often. You're reasoning and exegesis of these scriptures you discuss is at best, heavily flawed. Teaching history and religion correctly is sacred responsibility to those of us who really care about it. I have never understood you're involvement. I've been checking in on your work for decades, I just don't see its usefulness. There are may tens of thousands of us in the Judeo-Christian faiths who have as much learning as you. We are in fact not impressed with your handling of our literature. your videos do provide comedy for us though. Joy is a good fruit, and laughter is like medicine to the soul