As I have now gotten more than one concerned commenter about the ending of the video, I'd like to clarify in a pinned comment that I did not mean to place the blame for these changes on the audience of Animal Crossing games as outlined in the video as "young women and young LGBT." I instead meant to to place the blame on the business model of gachapon and explain who I believed this model was targeting in this specific case. Nintendo has made several gachapon's aimed at various demographics and I believe this is their attempt to spread the same practice to the demographic that plays Animal Crossing. I apologize if my remarks were homophobic as that was not my intent. I believe that this demographic is underserved when it comes to media and that they deserve GOOD media that is made with them in mind. I just don't believe that a gacha game falls under the umbrella of "good media." I understand however that my remarks were careless, and I again apologize if I hurt anyone with this assumption. Adding to this, I can't exclude myself from the group of people described in the video that cares about aesthetics. *I* care about aesthetics more and more as time goes on. I think it is a wide cultural shift that is affecting many different age groups and demographics, not just AC fans. Linked here is the ending I originally wrote for this video and impulsively scrapped the night before recording. I think the video would have been improved if I had found some middle ground and left these sentiments in. They make my own biases more apparent and show empathy towards those who may prefer the game the way it is. twitter.com/TamashiiHiroka/status/1272850450392338433

@shupasopni

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't take it that way but can see how that would come across that way. Appreciate the clarification.

@thefanficfanpony3551

4 жыл бұрын

As someone who is LGBT, I didn't take it that way at all? A lot of the same demographic that made up the "Moomin boom" from 2019 - essentially, a lot of LGBT people gravitated towards the show for its gentle tone and depiction of LGBT-coded characters in a positive light - seem to have migrated into the Animal Crossing fandom due to its similar gentle, easygoing tone and opportunities for making headcanons based on the limited specifics in the game (for example, the Crazy Redd and Tom Nook pairing, that seemed to have come out of nowhere but is nonetheless popular, as well as the popularity of the subtext between Flick and CJ.) Because of the limited options LGBT people have for media where they get a happy ending or a positive portrayal, I feel like it can be comforting to some to find a game like Animal Crossing where things are more open to headcanon and where real-life struggles or over the top gritty realism aren't as prevalent. Escapism is something everyone can gravitate towards (Disney movies with fairytale endings are popular for a reason, after all) but it still stands that LGBT folks deserve to have positive media created for them that isn't lazily made or just a straightup gacha game.

@coopeachu

4 жыл бұрын

Personally, as a trans girl with ocd, I found myself puzzled that you seemed to mention features such as moving villager houses and terraforming as somehow negative changes? True, animal forest was originally conceived because the game’s creator wanted an experience to emulate having relationships with friends, since he had recently moved away from a place where he had lived for a long time, but nook miles hardly feel like a gacha mechanic to me. If everything from island tickets and diy recipies and all that cost just bells, it would devalue them as a currency even more than they already have been. Having each player’s certain furniture types be locked to colors promotes online trading in the same way different Pokemon games have trade evolutions and version exclusives. Personally, while it is sad that villager personalities have been toned down and villager impact on the town is more removed, I don’t think animal crossing: new horizons is a full fledged gachapon hell where you either spend 100,000 nook miles island hopping or shill out $50 for an amiibo card. I think the inhabitants of the series becoming shells of their former selves is just a byproduct of wanting to focus more on that “visual” aspect. I’m not trying to justify the decision, I just think it comes from a place of oversight rather than malice. Nintendo didn’t think “let’s tone down the personalities so they can be more marketable”, because if they did, I doubt they would keep the cast as consistent as they do. I want to end this by saying I’ve been a fan of yours for a really long time and I, as always, really enjoyed this video. I’m just responding as a 18-24 year old lgbt female as to why my “demographic” might be drawn to the game. Because it’s more than just “I get to sexualize a cat with glasses”, animal crossing is a place where I can be myself and be accepted by others, I can’t think of another simulator game that lets you be who you want to be with no questions asked. While being able to have ordinances to accommodate different lifestyles creates a wider appeal, I don’t see why that should be seen as a *negative*?

@Tama-Hero

4 жыл бұрын

@@coopeachu It's only a negative to me personally because I *personally* prefer roleplaying games with interesting dynamic characters. It's just my own taste and bias since I'm the one that made the video and I'm salty that my favorite feature was removed. I was once also a person who moved away from everyone I knew and also found comfort in having some animal friends for a while and am sad that it's not something the game offers anymore. The specific points I was illustrating such as ordinances or terraforming were more to point out a change in priorities, giving the player more (absolute) power at the expense of villagers, not that making the game more accessible was a bad thing in general, just the shift of power bothered me and those were examples. Things like removing depth in order to give the player absolute agency WHILE toning down villagers takes away the parts of the game that I enjoyed as a lonely kid who just wanted something to look forward to on a Saturday night and feel like I was accomplishing something, the more RPG life sim aspects. It's perfectly valid to still enjoy the game in its current state if you're not me and like other things about it more. You're right, some people do need a nice gentle place to call their own and express themselves, because some demographics like the one drawn to Animal Crossing are not well served by the industry (or the world in general) and need spaces and games like that. I don't fault anyone for enjoying those things and they can be beneficial to people.

@coopeachu

4 жыл бұрын

Tama Hiroka thank you so much, I totally get it now!

The villagers almost never talk about themselves but just what you’re up to. Basically every time I talk to a villager they say “hey you dug up some fossils?” Or whatever

@victorelias589

3 жыл бұрын

I know. The animal crossing games have no soul anymore now. The music sucks too now 😒

@victorelias589

3 жыл бұрын

I mean listen to the original ost in the first animal crossing. All of those songs are amazing and super alive 🥺😁

@valerieskitsandminimovies5894

3 жыл бұрын

Except KK dirge

@mangoberries_

3 жыл бұрын

Victor Elias i like the new music a lot, but the older music is very good too

@RaccoonJinchuriki

3 жыл бұрын

This morning EVERY ONE of my villagers had something to say about the bell trees i've been planting.

yeah.. that's probably why so many people are obsessed with their villagers' looks. bc that's literally the only thing that's left

@finnianjoseph-jan4281

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I loved a few "ugly" villagers in older games because they had a great character but now they're all like empty all lazy, cranky or smug characters have the same dialogue, the same character etc. Nothing special about them except for their photo quotes. And why would you have like bearold if you can have stitches with the same dialogue (for the example, IDK what bearolds character was)

@Starbonsai

3 жыл бұрын

It’s sad. This is my first ac game and when I found out all villager types act the same and say the same dialogue, I was disappointed. I understand there are many villagers in the game but I think I prefer a select 50 who are all very different from one another than 300 who act mostly the same.

@DylanRomanov

3 жыл бұрын

I remember the first game being full of such lore. When the villagers were super rude it took my by surprise but I honesty miss the spectrum of emotions they used to have. Give me the drama!

@Jenskieez

3 жыл бұрын

this is so true! when i played the older games i was less picky about what villagers i had, because even if they were "ugly" they could still grow on me with their dialog and personality. i can't say the same for new horizons

@user-mv7cb7hy4v

3 жыл бұрын

fr i rlly want to be roasted by snooties and crankies

I guess this is the reason this whole "no uglies" movement came to be...When I was a little kid playing Wild World I didn't care so much about what the villagers looked like. I just loved them so much because it felt like you actually build a relationship with them.

@tsubatasan

3 жыл бұрын

Animal Crossing Wild World is the reason that I love Joey, Butch, and Ribbot so much. I really miss those days....

@PerfecktLady

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, I cared if they were being mean to me not if they looked unappealing

@xeye_candyx4778

3 жыл бұрын

i think maybe they're too bland now and there isnt anything to unique and the only difference is looks i got stitches and bob but they keep saying the same things as the other like what they say when they are not home hope there is an update maybe where they are more unique just looks like the older games

@greenbeanbeing8410

3 жыл бұрын

It’s just a bit harder to connect in the new games, I don’t know

@mimikyu2008

3 жыл бұрын

my bff was a rat named limberg 😳

Wild World is where villager dialog peaked. I want to be verbally abused.

@icy101yt

3 жыл бұрын

I WANT BLOODSHED AND ENIMIES

@deaddwives

3 жыл бұрын

I WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY BRUTALLY ROASTED FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THE CLIFFS ANS RIVERS I SPENT HOURS MAKING

@MollyMargolisBillCipherIsBae

3 жыл бұрын

I grew up on city folk, so . . . Lol

@icy101yt

3 жыл бұрын

@@MollyMargolisBillCipherIsBae SAME GIRL

@lestatsgirlypop

3 жыл бұрын

@@deaddwives "see that cliff over there? HORRIBLE! EW! BLECH! DISGUSTING! who made that train wreck? Twinkles!" Is how I'd imagine it would be

It is kind of funny how when I played Wild World I had a villager named Nan move in literally right next to my house. It made it almost impossible to have flowers, trees or even fences and paths on the right half of my yard. I remember being SO frustrated that I had no say where she moved into but her being so close forced me to interact with her and she quickly became my favourite villager! Then, when she decided to move one day, it was literally heartbreaking. I suddenly had my yard back, but I lost my best friend :C

@BestTimes8812

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think you can have fences and paths in wildworld unless you mean grass dirt paths

@FoxrosePettipaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@BestTimes8812 In Wild World you had the design system still so you could just make flat designs that looked like paths and fences using perspective. Also, I'd plant flowers and trees to create natural fencing.

Wait a minute. This video had 3 main parts, and intro and conclusion. *Are you telling me that this was a perfect 5 paragraph essay?* If so it’s a really good one.

@Tama-Hero

4 жыл бұрын

They docked me for not citing 3 sources in each main paragraph

@pixl2524

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Honestly, everyone's always saying that they want the Gamecube personalities back, but I'd rather have the Wild World personalities back. They still had the tendency to be mean and sassy, but not quite as extreme as its predecessor, making them more likeable, and they still all felt like different, well-rounded individuals.

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks

3 жыл бұрын

This ^^^^

@zuckertheoctopus3095

3 жыл бұрын

I don't care if the villagers are "mean" or "nice", I just want the villagers to have more developed and layered personalities and lives than just "oMG i wAnNa bE a pOpsTar!!!!1111!!" or "BIG MUSCLE TIME PROTEIN SHAKE NOW"

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks

3 жыл бұрын

Zucker The Octopus i feel that. Hope someone @s me when this is fixed (if it’s ever fixed)

@Curlyheart

3 жыл бұрын

Animal crossing was originally a n64 game bro

@paullossypaulplossy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Curlyheart in the japanese version. don’t be annoying

Animals in New Horizons have so little personality that I’m no longer afraid of picking the rude dialogue option.

@swedishfish9555

3 жыл бұрын

What rude dialog option?

@QuantaBee

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh, I'm still kinda afraid of doing that...Being mean is just well...mean. I don't like doing that.

@DarkNia64

3 жыл бұрын

One of my villagers was crying and telling me how upset she was. I thought I was being snarky by picking the "I can see that." option, but then she's just like "well as long as you recognize it, it's ok :)".

@hippieduck

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkNia64 oh god lol 😂

@completlynormalhypernova666

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkNia64 i tested it and i think its the same response. You can be so rude or super nice but the dialog is the same. Especially for the diy/cooking

So the old Animal Crossing games WANTED you to talk to your villagers more than once? Wow that’s changed a lot...

@Iron_Stigmata

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr. I literally avoid villagers in NH now so I don't bother them 😔

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 жыл бұрын

@@Iron_Stigmata Seems overkill, they don't usually complain if you talk to them 2-3 times really.

@akifansari7698

3 жыл бұрын

MaakaSakuranbo Still such a low amount tho 😔

@blood1nthewine

3 жыл бұрын

MaakaSakuranbo nah, multiple times the second time i speak to a villager, mostly peppy, they have some kind of dumb remark about how they thought they’d see me again. like bitch obviously we live on the same island

@kennedy62

3 жыл бұрын

I talked to one of my villagers once, waited a few hours, and when I spoke to them again it was only ‘Wow, we’ve been seeing a lot of each other today!’ :(

The slow power creep of animal crossing ACGC: Some random kid ACWW: Villager ACCF:Worker ACNL: Mayor ACNH: GOD

@rikustorm13

3 жыл бұрын

Lol p much

@wateramidoing3456

3 жыл бұрын

The next game you become the universe and can control villagers

@katlunar395

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much 😂

@FriskyD.

3 жыл бұрын

God with tools that last a few hours-

@PhyreSpore

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, Smash Ultimate: Axe Murderer

The old villagers are like sable, you gotta make her warm up to you in order for her to talk and its amazing

@kohnkly

3 жыл бұрын

it was amazing bc it also made them more like real people like nobody is gonna warship u the moment ur thrown on a random island together if anything they will be more closed off and even rude sometimes

@Mihawk16

2 жыл бұрын

NH it's almost impossible not to be friends with your villagers... Boring.

@rikustorm13

7 ай бұрын

Sable is awesome ^_^

that’s why I loved the old post office so much, cuz there was so much drama with the pelicans, and sometimes brewster would get in on it at the coffee shop. god I loved it

@rebekahdrummond2818

2 жыл бұрын

don’t get me started on resetti

I think peanutbuttergamer said it best "villagers in the original games were mean to you, but mean is so much more interesting than overly kind"

@KittyKatty999

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. At least rude/sassyness makes you *feel emotions,* and have motivation to improve yourself so you can prove the mean ones wrong. I remember discussing how the villagers acted towards me with my parents as a kid. I never let them upset me, and could prank them back if I wanted. Getting gifts and pictures really meant something back then, along with seeing villagers wear a design YOU made.

@ICTOAU19

3 жыл бұрын

Like when a jock says in the older games: “SHRIVEL UP AND BLOW AWAY SHRIMP” it’s amazing... not them just talking about sitting...

@Shenaldrac

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Why do you think most people have such fond memories of the early pokemon games and their rivals? Because in a world where everyone else was nice and polite, Gary and Silver were *absolutely douchebags.* They stood out and they made you hate them and made you wanna get better so you could beat 'em!

@Shirafune161

3 жыл бұрын

To each their own. I like it when characters can be jerks in other games, but ACNH is my happy place, I'm playing it to unwind, and personally, I don't need this sort of drama in there.

@Evilriku13

3 жыл бұрын

Its the contrast that makes "the mean ones stand out over the overly kind ones", smiliar to rl. If you only have people who are of one kind, be it overly kind or purely hurtful towards you, then the contrast to that breaths new air towards you.

As someone who doesn't really care about the online/multiplayer aspects of ACNH, the constantly repeated dialogue about what I did yesterday is what ended up driving me to quit. Talking to them began feeling like a chore, and without the villagers all that was really left for me was a daily loop around the island for fruit, fossils, etc. It ended up just feeling pointless.

@maximillionpegasus5160

4 жыл бұрын

I can super relate to that. Additionally, I got so sad that after talking to them two or three times, they usually opened up with a passive aggressive "wow, I'm really seeing a lot of you today huh". All I wanted was to hear some unique dialogue, rather than that they saw me hitting a rock, or that an egg dropped out a tree - in previous games you had to actually stalk them for an hour to get that kind of response.

@minimalchill

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. I quit for the same reasons. Not only that...I feel into a bit of a existential crisis over the franchise as a whole. I realized as a 32 year old adult, heading into a promotion at work, on the cusp of establishing a new romantic connection with someone, who devotes most of his time into identity sealing/defining, and does a lot of work around trauma and the healing of it all...that the devotion AC requires simply does not fit into my life anymore. I have decided to give up all heavy routine based time sink games. I didn't just sell ACNH. I sold every AC I owned. I'll always have the memories. There is always emulation if I ever wanna revisit those worlds for a day or so. But going forward, I am done with the franchise. It is not the same game I fell in love with way back in the summer when renting the game again and again from Blockbuster for my GameCube. Its not that game I opened Christmas morning. Its a shell. A shadow of its former self. An abysmal disappointment as far as I'm concerned. Genuinely, I am deeply saddended by what it has become. I devoted 260+ hours to ACNH bc at first it was a lot of fun. The moment you terraform a couple of things though it becomes clear something insidiously wrong is occuring.

@chippotato5647

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that describes what my situation was with New Leaf basically to a T.

@catmadderfact5215

4 жыл бұрын

As someone who started the franchise out with wild world I must say I was extremely disappointed to see the watered down dialogue in New Leaf and even further disappointed when I found out the villagers just got even more generic for New Horizons. Made me decide to not even get the game since the main reason I played was to make friends with the villagers and not just have them as another prop in town. The game is called Animal Crossing for a reason they really shouldn't have been watering down their personality or friendship system and instead should have been improving or refining it.

@thgritic102

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the repeated dialogue is what driving me crazy. I remembered in WW they were closer to their personalities and were different through the seasons. In this game, they are all too nice including the grumpy ones. Like who decided to take out most of the dialogue?!

I went back to new leaf after playing new horizons, and EVERYONE was talking to me, asking requests, etc. I was like why is everyone bothering me!? Because I was so used to no one talking to me in ACNH

The thing about Animal Crossing becoming a franchise more based on aesthetics and online interaction and less in overall character interaction with villagers is that it has a pretty high chance of alienating a part of its fanbase. For example, I'm not particularly good at placing furniture around my town, or designs, or fencing, or anything like that, and when the game's current fanbase cares mostly about those types of things, as a fan of the same game, it can feel like exclusion. Another thing is loners like me who are also anti-social and awkward have more difficulty in making friends, whether it be online or in real life, and when the game harps so much on interacting with other players, and actively doing things with them, like going to their towns for turnip prices, feels like it is innately more difficult to have a good time with the game when instead of depending on other people giving you money, or the previous turnip price example, to make money in the game in a singleplayer way becomes that more time-consuming and tiring :V

@bopz9559

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I still haven't decorated most of my island, and I don't like the community. I miss when Animal Crossing was a game about making friends with interesting animal characters. The villagers in ACNH act like lifeless robots who repeat the same 5-6 lines of dialogue constantly. Not to mention that even when I do play online with my friends, there's nothing to do because they got rid of the minigames from ACNL. I literally had more fun with both Happy Home Designer and Pocket Camp, because those games at least gave us things to do when we logged on. ACNH is just like a giant empty canvas with some gacha dolls.

@ConorOnYoutube

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Everything just feels like a big competition to see who can get the cutest and rarest villagers, and who has the best looking island.

@RH-xp7ju

3 жыл бұрын

@babybop if I’m being honest, I low-key hate the new community.

@RH-xp7ju

3 жыл бұрын

@Master Dizzy Offical SAME, someone found the need to “correct” me because I didn’t have popular villagers! I’m sorry I love Bitty and Hopper because they were my childhood besties, geez!

@nocctea

3 жыл бұрын

I’m the same, I like decorating my house, but I was never very into or focused on decorating my town. In previous games most people also had basic looking towns, but now for NH every town that I see has had *something* done to it. But mines still basic. And I see all these pretty towns and thing “I wanna do that, I want a pretty town too!” So I try, and maybe I have to build the skill or smth, I dunno, but it’s difficult for me, and I feel kinda left out. I wanna share my town too, but it’s still basic and default looking, so it’s like “what’s the point?” Just kinda sucks cause animal crossing should always be a life sim first, not a decorating sim

I was honestly so excited about interacting with villagers in NH. I am sad the villagers are more just another "thing" to collect.

@piippiz

3 жыл бұрын

There's alot of dialog, there's about 5 spots on every 3 rooms of the museum on every 3 exhibitions that vary for each 8 personality types, so there's about 360 unique dialog that is just super rare since it requires the animal to first visit the museum, then visit a room it hasn't been to before. I think if u wait, the animals will look through all 5 spots in the room eventually, but they don't seem to change rooms during a single visit. If u like building and customizing, NH truly is the best AC game so far. It can be updated infinitely, and it has potential to keep being the best AC game even for AC veterans, if you only make enough noise and collect enough likes or upvotes on a suggestion before sending the link of it to nintendo. But it only works if it is a link, because photos can be manipulated. A link with a ton of upvotes is pretty credible and clearly wanted addition. Gyroids and new shops and diving and the dream thing are what the game is missing right now, but after a year they'll probably have them implemented and then have time to take suggestions, as the game was super super popular, they just can't stop hammering while the iron is hot.

@ultraevilvampiregirl

3 жыл бұрын

piippiz that’s the problem though - nintendo are only interested in catering to as wide an audience as possible. the villagers have become so bland its basically just become a terraforming game, and you can only really show off your island with a nintendo online membership, and even then your island and villagers are declared ugly if they don’t following the popular trends. i love new horizons but it has become such a bland game

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

I’m attached to most of my villagers

@user-zw6hf5xl7s

3 жыл бұрын

@@ultraevilvampiregirl I 100% agree to this.

@hanakikoi

3 жыл бұрын

I've felt that myself but I'm combating this by becoming super attached to my villagers and who they were before. If anyone attacks my grumpy old man hamster they'll catch these hands

i started on New leaf and i already feel the descent, they dont even invite you to their house or come visit yours.

@sub2rhys

3 жыл бұрын

I miss hide and seek from City Folk where your villagers would hide around your town. It was in ACNL but it was on the island and even if it was in the main town, it certainly wasn't as common.

@s0njamilanovic

3 жыл бұрын

Actually as a new player I did get one villager (Ellie) invite me to her house by mail, she sent me a letter saying that I should come over and when I did, she said she was glad I got her message or something like that. Maybe this was totally random though because it only happened once for me. I do wish you could invite villagers to your house though or hold little parties or something like that.

@crystalizedcompletionist

3 жыл бұрын

They do, it's just not very often.

@rollo_linwood

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@rf0656

3 жыл бұрын

what?? I've been invited to villager's houses and vice versa in new leaf!

I want wild world type dialogue. New leaf music. And new horizons everything else. Also Brewster and to eat food. That’s literally all I want.

@myon9431

3 жыл бұрын

Good taste!

@theoneonyoutube4925

2 жыл бұрын

Brewster’s here.

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoneonyoutube4925 he is indeed. And so is cooking and eating food. So happy.

@ReptilianTeaDrinker

2 жыл бұрын

I have to say, I personally like Wild World music better than New Leaf, because WW was my first game and I just feel like New Leaf's music wasn't as good as WW or quite as fitting. lol But yes, the WW personalities? Absolutely would love to have those back. Kind of miss when my favourite snooty and grouchy villagers would sass me. Lmao!

This is why I want 1. "Mean mode," which makes villagers more antagonistic towards the player and lower levels of knowing them makes them aggressive. 2. VARIETY. Hybrid personalities - villagers who have a mixture of multiple personalities, which means they'll randomize which dialogue or reaction they'll have to an item. This will mean your villagers have more distinct personalities, along with a few hybrid-exclusive dialogue lines. And more dialogue. This makes them feel like actual people who don't just say the same thing all day. This is also why hybrid personalities are good - it makes them feel less predictable. You know what Alice is gonna say if Norma's said it before (seeing as they are both Normal villagers). 3. CONSEQUENCES. Maybe they would actually start bullying you *if* you bullied them first (like pushing them around a lot). 4. LESS ONE-SIDED TALKING. Make them ping you more. 5. OPINIONS. Stop them from complimenting you regardless, and make them go "that doesn't look nice on you" if an outfit you have uses colours they dislike personally. Have them knock on your door while you're in, and you have the choice to let them in or not. If they are inside, they'll give you their opinions on your house, based on their favourite/least favourite sets of furniture. Hope Nintendo adds more villager-related things, though I doubt this.

@HannahCharlesworth98

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm so sad I've never had a villager come to visit me. I used to get annoyed with it in NL and WW but honestly, I miss it!

@milkglassfairy7641

3 жыл бұрын

YES! I wish they could visit our homes. It would be so nice. And if they pinged us more. It’s very one sided and that makes me feel sad haha.

@Icehypernova

3 жыл бұрын

Regarding #5, dom has called my character's outfits ugly a few times !😅

@icy101yt

3 жыл бұрын

People are forgetting that the dialogue is the same because of the switches data and if they did that it would be on the next console and would release it as “animal crossing new horizons deluxe edition”

@deaddwives

3 жыл бұрын

@@icy101yt dialogue doesn’t take up THAT much data dude, it would take up significantly less data than the holiday updates too and there are so many other games that are bigger data wise than animal crossing lol

Here's a meta gaming pro for the repetitive dialogue of NH: Change the language of your switch and learn it by playing ACNH. After a few 100s hrs of normal gameplay I sort of memorized the dialogues, the bug/fish capture one liners, etc. I changed the language to French and I've gotten to the point where I can talk with my French roommate and hold a conversation pretty well. LOL

@saltyfears

4 жыл бұрын

Omg I do that too, one thing I love about new horizons is that ur finally able to choose between every single language the game is available in without getting a region specific switch

@MinaMoomin

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been doing the same thing, also with French! It’s a lot of fun!

@ToopidPonay

4 жыл бұрын

That's not a bad idea! Lol I've gotta try this.

@pinkyoshi_

4 жыл бұрын

OMG thank you so much for this advice! I needed a good way to learn French!

@alicec8033

4 жыл бұрын

Thought of that but the switch doesnt have greeek.. =/

I think the reason ACNH villagers repeat everything you did like you have the memory of a goldfish was a gameplay mechanic intended for when you play the game as a multiplayer game. That way you don't have to wonder, "what did my little sister do yesterday?" Instead, Reneigh just tells you she was shaking a lot of trees or hitting all the rocks. They should've really considered all the people who play the game alone, considering the best selling games in the series were on handhelds where sharing wouldn't be as common.

@Bawzacker

4 жыл бұрын

makes sense, i also like that they have object permanence when it comes to clothes they give you and comment on it if you wear them or give it back to them after, ironicaly, forgetting who gve you them in the first place.

@sonarpanels

4 жыл бұрын

Especially with the one island per Switch, sharing does not feel like caring

@jasonmartin7968

4 жыл бұрын

i have an island with my sister and i still find reports about her annoying

@taraetroiano2139

3 жыл бұрын

imo they did that to either punish people who would "exploit" the system (they might have done this with new leaf, i just remember hearing about it) or just to force people to buy more switches and not share. its part of a whole system of game systems or subscription systems that don't like "sharing" between multiple people, but it's $60 and not that much game. It's just mean to not have the traditional 3-slot and force siblings or spouses to literally share the entire development of an island-what if you don't like where they put the museum or ables? and you each waste 50k every time to move it around when the other person is on? what if you were planning to donate fish or bugs and you save them, and the next time you go on they're already donated? what if your design in a design slot got deleted because THEY put something there? what if they took things you left on the island as a decoration because they have that power? and it only gets worse the more people are sharing; It's so myopic in its goal to force more sales that it becomes unappealing to a larger market of people who don't want to spend $120 for two separate islands with identical game content in each packet

@byakuyatogami2905

3 жыл бұрын

If the game is supposed to be multiplayer friendly then why is only one player character able to do most things

I went onto my mams animal crossing on the ds and butch said “dont make me break you” and i was completely surprised bc im used to new horizons and all of the villagers r nice

@shadowpunk93

3 жыл бұрын

My first game was the first AC, so...when the villagers are "mean" on NH, I don't even notice it. 🤣

We need a petition for a villager update. Could be themed that now we've had it for a while, the villagers have finally gotten settled in and become more open to getting close and showing their personalities.

@luc9473

3 жыл бұрын

yeah this happened

@nurailidepaepe2783

3 жыл бұрын

@@luc9473 it did? explain?

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks

3 жыл бұрын

chilli ! When????

@gwan1714

3 жыл бұрын

@@luc9473 wh ?? no? Their personalities are still bland ._.

@M3Y2e

3 жыл бұрын

I wish, but i can promise you it wont happen. Nintendo hasnt been supporting the game or fixing things weve been asking for forever, including: crafting multiple items, multiplayer loading times and stacking manilla clams. Theyve just been adding events every few months and nothing else. It really sucks

They should make it that the player should convince the villagers to relocating their house by doing tasks/ favors for them. So that every time you want to relocate their house for aesthetics, there is gameplay and you could also learn more about them. Example, lazy villagers are more easily convinced and cranky villagers are harder to convinced.

@piippiz

3 жыл бұрын

Cranky villagers would def rant about how their house was on a better place when they were young, just like everything was better back then 😂 Please post this suggestion on Reddit, and once it accumulates a ton of upvotes, mail it to nintendo. This would be somewhat easy to code in, as no new textures or such are required, just dialog basically

@BriarPatchNyra

3 жыл бұрын

It would also spare us the absurd 50k price every time

@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571

3 жыл бұрын

Raven EXACTLY. i just wanna scooch their house over a little for 50,000 BELLS! i always thought that was wayyyy too much

@benjamins4699

3 жыл бұрын

there are even some dialogues about moving house/wanting certain features - lazy villagers say they'd like to live near a river so they can talk to fish or something. even if this is just a terraforming thing, it would be cool to be able to satisfy where a villager wants to live/add features near their house (a bit like collecting exterior furniture for their houses at the start of the game) and get rewards for that

@xxxmelissatacionxxx

3 жыл бұрын

that’s a great idea!

Wow, that's sad to know that sending mail does nothing now. Not only did they make it incredibly tedious to write each letter/postcard but they made it worthless.

@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571

3 жыл бұрын

they might as well just remove it from the game now :/ i sent a mean letter to rasher and he just thanked me for the "kind words"

@Patchoulliil

3 жыл бұрын

I truly can not believe that we lost a whole post office of characters to some pathetic card stand at the airport.

@tailsprowerfan2729

3 жыл бұрын

@@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571 thats dumb he should be sad or pissed off

New horizons really is just "Island Editor that NPCs Do as Little as Possible to Get in the Way of: the Game"

@kimkardashianjong-un6299

3 жыл бұрын

truthfully

@hlavco

Жыл бұрын

I dunno, my NPCs always make sure to start fishing in exactly the water tile I'm trying to get rid of.

@latemporis5430

Жыл бұрын

@@hlavco I saw people get annoyed over villager sitting in their way. Hope Nintendo doesn't continue to remove that too. Complete control comes at the expense of reducing villagers to mere decorations.

Pros and cons for the villagers in New Horizons: Pros: 1) They can sing, read, and interact with the environment around them. 2) They can’t leave you without warning. 3) They are more customizable than in previous games. They can now wear hats, glasses, and dresses. Cons: 1) Their dialog is very bland. 2) They rarely ask for requests. This makes getting smile isle stamps pretty painful. 3) They can’t visit your house. 4) They're all way too nice regardless of their personalities.

@MissinDaSylveon

2 жыл бұрын

Well, after the 2.0 update, they can visit your house! I also have seen my villagers more likely to ask for requests after the update, as well as dialog about your activities becoming non-existent. Villagers in new Horizons are certainly better now.

@ReptilianTeaDrinker

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissinDaSylveon Shame that their personalities are bland. I wish we could get back the personalities they had in Wild World or City Folk. I do like the fact that they can't move away without warning and many other things... I just wish they didn't repeat themselves so much.

@_____________a_a

Жыл бұрын

Honestly with the current fandom I lowkey wish that they could move away while the player remains powerless to stop them.

Kinda like the sims 4. Aesthetics over soul with each game.

@TheVoidedRealm

3 жыл бұрын

Sims 1, 2, 3 really had that soul and 3 for me was god

@akinamation

3 жыл бұрын

That's also why Sims players most likely remember Families like the Goths, the Caliente Sisters, Don Lothario and so on. Because they had a story people cared about. Sims 3 had stories too however not as impactful due to gameplay (though if you really digged into it, it still was fun- or you made up your own story which was very easy with the overworld!) Sims 4?... Not even gameplay makes up for it. The best I could make out of it is CAS and Build/Buy mode, and even then I prefer the Sims 2 build mode (though that's because I got bunch of CC and activated some cheats to decorate more realistically, lol)

@carlycastillo883

3 жыл бұрын

@@akinamation My god, I've played Sims 2, 3, and 4. Sims 2 was by far my favorite. Maybe because it's where I started, but honestly it felt so much more involved and intricate and not so dead-ended like Sims 4 where everything is up to you.

@Nakia11798

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlycastillo883 I feel the same. Sims 2 holds some real nostalgia for me, and it had some features I really miss, like cutscenes.

@rodentmarie

3 жыл бұрын

I like wild world

When I noticed the core of this problem was when Blanca visited my town in April Fool's Day in New Leaf. She then goes to each animal's house to impersonate them, then you have to chose who's the real animal and who is Blanca in a quiz about information that you are supposed to know about your neighbours. I'd been playing for almost a year at that point and I didn't know the answer of any of those questions about any of my neighbours because THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES. They don't have traits that differentiate them AT ALL. Some are supposed to have siblings and family, they have goals in life and they have skills that they are really good at but you don't know this because they don't talk about themselves. They make you run errands to earn friendship points to unlock once a month an expensive thing for your town. And that's it.

@elizabethhannah4332

3 жыл бұрын

You have to find all this information the day before, more can be read about it on the wiki. This is much like how Christmas worked, you had to wait until they told you the things they wanted.

@sinhalite

3 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethhannah4332 yeah I was about to say this. I thought it was common knowledge but ig not

@camcam794

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a new leaf handbook for that reason lol

@anj41

3 жыл бұрын

i miss blanca aswell! i’m so annoyed they didn’t have april fools day

I used to play acnl every day after elementary school. My favorite character was mint. Now I realize that she was ugly, but I never used to care about that. I loved her because she was always there.

@Rubyoreo

3 жыл бұрын

same... I never even used to consider my villagers being ugly or not. I cared about them because they were friends, not because of how they looked. sad to have that shift.

@doodle_foolmorg3895

3 жыл бұрын

I know right? I loved just getting on to see my favorite lil squirrel... Now I get on any acnh discord and all they can talk about is how they’re selling raymond for like 1,000,000,000 nook mile tickets. I wish things were the same as before

@CantBelieveItsJustButter

3 жыл бұрын

When I had wild world to new leaf I never heard of uglies and I enjoyed the company of my villagers but now in new horizons it's just like collectables and its sad

@minzyGG

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf are you on?!? Mint is adorable.

@doodle_foolmorg3895

3 жыл бұрын

@@minzyGG her face is a lil creepy but still i love her

If only we can go back to being able to have 15 villagers in a town at one time 😫

@cailynvries1788

3 жыл бұрын

Umm yes please. There are so many I want but to little villagers to have! Plus I have to have my sisters favourites cause she shared a town with me! And we have different tastes! Would love to have more villagers

@cailynvries1788

3 жыл бұрын

@Master Dizzy Offical yeah same thing. Was looking for Diana but found tangy and had to take her since my system loves her but I also love her. But she won’t let me be rid of Rolf or Judy since those are her favourites. I want my own island. Judys eyes creep me out! They unsettle me.

@ReptilianTeaDrinker

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love that! I wish there could be an update where we could have 15 villagers. So many villagers that I like and ones that I was attached to when I was a kid and still really like. lol

It seems NH is going to be heavily carried by updates, so I reeally hope they're planning on expanding villagers dialogues and overall interactions. Good video!

@Evilriku13

4 жыл бұрын

I rather think they will add stuff from the older games in terms of characters and buildings, rather then more complex stuff like personalities being more fleshed out cuz this via word of mouth can scare customers away if say Raymond gets his smug persoanlity type enhanced, as some rly just play or got into ACNH for the meme cats.

@nostalgiameadows23

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evilriku13 It's sad to what the Animal Crossing community has become. It's not bad to like the cats, of course (or any villager in that matter), but they don't really take the fact that they will most likely say the same, repetitive dialogue.

@Mousseline711

4 жыл бұрын

@@nostalgiameadows23 Cats are one of the few species that has at least one of every type of personality though. Of course, with only 8 personalities and 10 villager slots in NH you will have to double dip, but it's entirely possible to have an all cat village/island with all personalities represented. That said though, the dialogue is still incredibly bland :( This is the first AC game I spent more than a few hours in but even I noticed there was very little there. It does get a little better at high friendship levels but not much, sadly.

@ginger-beck6325

3 жыл бұрын

i’m hoping that, since they’ve already done everything they can with customization and that’s been their main focus since acnl, they’ll focus more on villager interactions in the next animal crossing game?

@mikejet4230

3 жыл бұрын

They should introduce a confidant system or friendship system like they do in Persona. It would really help you understand your villagers better and gain a deeper bond

It awful sounds like the games have degraded when it comes to NPC talk. I have Audie in my island in New Horizons and I think I've seen every possible dialogue she has to offer. When I got another Peppy character, in my example Piper, I noticed they have the exact same dialogue. I thought that was absolute lazy, but now I realize that they have the same dialogue because Villagers aren't important to the core game. Hence I don't understand the passion for Raymond. Also, the 10 dollars joke sent me lol

@machtus

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's because smug is a relatively rare personality type for villagers and the ones that are smug usually aren't very visually appealing, so people latch onto raymond

@Smarglenargle

4 жыл бұрын

they need to add more passive aggressive stuff. Just sit down an intern and give literally every animal unique lines.

@djhero0071

4 жыл бұрын

It’s the same thing with Pocket camp. That and the subscription they added made me nope the fuck outta that game. The subscription just turned me off because it made me feel like Nintendo was getting too greedy and reading the same lines over and over just annoyed me.

@drywallthief4039

4 жыл бұрын

It also doesn't help that a lot of people who play New Horizons fetishise putting Raymond in a maid outfit or having him be a not-safe-for-work object of affection and such. People also drew the comparison of Raymond to some character from the murder mystery series "Danganronpa." They pretty much theorize a lot of people have a thing for a standoffish boy in glasses doing some stuff that isn't safe for KZread's content filters.

@deadfrogfoot

4 жыл бұрын

its also that raymond is the only smug cat villager. being a 1 off type is always going to make them a higher priced

Watching NH island tours kills my soul inside, because while the islands are absolutely stunning (and obviously took hours of effort to make), there’s no love towards the villagers themselves. Not a single tour giver acknowledges the residents. It’s as if they don’t exist or are just objects that look pretty and remain in the background.

@Shadamyfan-rs8xc

2 жыл бұрын

I love my villagers.

@onetrickponysona2613

2 жыл бұрын

what kind of creators you're watching? im watching the ones that always acknowledge their villagers

I’m just questioning whether raymond is more famous as a villager himself or as an item

@redfoxdog1

3 жыл бұрын

villager trafficking

@V4mpirelvrs

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I wanted Raymond with the idea he’d be rare due to having more personality. Frankly, rare villagers are just popular... and less unappealing in comparison to some villagers.

@carrotcommunist9216

2 жыл бұрын

@@redfoxdog1 lmfao

@M4x_D4350n

Жыл бұрын

"They dont see me as a person, these women see me as an item." Memphis Tennessee

I remember talking a lot with people on Discord about how we wanted backstories for the special villagers. We wanted to dive deeper into their histories-- How did Sable make ends meet while raising her little sisters? How do Tom Nook and Rover know each other? How did the Nooklings end up with their uncle? Also, by some crazy science, Isabelle became A LOT more watered down than she was before. We already knew very little of her in New Leaf, and somehow she became the most boring character in New Horizons.

@eunit33ForLyfe

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Nook isn't the Nooklings uncle.

@EmileewithtwoEs

4 жыл бұрын

@@eunit33ForLyfe I've been bamboozled my whole life! 😂 I swore in the first game he introduced them as his nephews, but I just looked it up! Either way, I do want a Timmy and Tommy backstory.

@octotruman2541

3 жыл бұрын

Wild world had these stories that would happen where you could find out about nooks past and the able sisters history with him. They answer a lot of questions and tell how Tom nook got the values he has today.

@mars-be4fo

3 жыл бұрын

@Saint Ruto yeah i wish isabelle had a little more character, maybe walking around the island checking in on everyone!! BUT i am more patient with her because she worked so hard in new leaf and deserves a vacation

@bibrosko

3 жыл бұрын

yee and the real annoying thing in acnh is that I really thought we were gonna get lots of npcs interactions based on the first days of playing where u can see them in their little tents telling you things, calling friends over to help....but they they never even get to go to sleep....like blathers sleeps during the day but isabelle and nook? They just dont..........................I hate it thanks........and I really like the game overall but I really miss talking to villagers a lot, its my fav thing to do in any game, I hate collecting and completing stuff I just wanna chill and vibe and talk to npcs........ugh

One concept I saw recently that could bridge the Mean Villagers and the modern system for me is to give villagers different moods each day. I like finding out that one of my villagers is sick so I can go give them medicine, and it'd be cool to see villagers' moods change each day. Maybe if you've neglected them for multiple days, you'll log in to see them angry/sad when they talk to you. When Leaf visits, gardening villagers could get more excited and ask you to help making a garden near their home. I'm not a huge fan of some of the things villagers would do in old games such as insults and stealing your stuff, but I'd love to see more dynamic personalities brought back. And yeah, anything to add more variety to the dialogue. I had two normal villagers I adored in my town (Gala and Lily), but their dialogue was so painfully similar that I had to kick Gala out. Giving Gala a different hobby would've gone extremely far in making her feel more distinct. And giving villagers unique relationships sounds perfect. I hate how some of my villagers have been together for around 2 months and they still rarely interact, and when they do it feels so unnatural. The house visits feel especially weird as it seems pretty arbitrary, so 2 villagers who've known each other for a while are as likely to visit each other as villagers who've been in the same town for a day.

the watered down content and increased aesthetics are popular with EA too. sims 4 is a sad, sad game when it comes to content depth versus appearance and customization

I feel like improving aesthetics is great. But I don’t want lifeless husks. I want the juicy drama and interesting conversations plus the aesthetic changes. Keep the cards sure but like find a way to mesh everything together so we have personality and functionality but so that the player still has much control.

@egon3705

2 жыл бұрын

honestly if they just ported wild world's system to nh and wrote new dialogue for the smug and uchi villagers that would be perfect

I wish you could choose a "polite" version or "old school" version so you could have a mean mode or a mode more like ACNH already is for like kids or people who don't want mean interactions. It would be neat DLC, I hope Nintendo sees this and adjusts the personality traits.

@annistar9693

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had your optimism and faith in nintendo.

@Phoen1xFeathers

3 жыл бұрын

What about people. Who dont want mean villagers but dont want the kiddy bullshit we have in NH?

@izzy3995

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phoen1xFeathers it's animal crossing, what do you expect????

@Phoen1xFeathers

3 жыл бұрын

@@izzy3995 Decent fucking villagers

@izzy3995

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phoen1xFeathers nah im referring to the part where you say "kiddy bullshit" about a literal childrens game lmao

I really wish they'd remake older animal crossing games. For me, the thing that stings most is that each animal crossing game is pretty fundamentally unique in that each game appeals to a totally different kind of player due to the shift in game priorities. But at the same time, the quality of life changes are so huge that it's hard to go back to older games and really stick to playing them. WW was my starter game and I really miss like... pretty much everything about it. But I love doing custom designs, and NH is best for that, and the graphics quality made it painful to go back to even by NL, and the inventory and customization.... Honestly, the level of control in NH is pretty overwhelming to me. My town is just stuck half terraformed with a little bit of river cut away instead of bridges since I couldn't decide. I just want to have a cute forest village, but the game itself doesn't really cater to that. If I could have WW just with a fresh coat of HD paint and *some* of the control NH gives, I would be happy just with that. Also they got rid of moving letters in NH which makes me super sad, since I always liked holding onto the letters of moved out villagers, even if we didn't get close :(

@Evilriku13

4 жыл бұрын

or just combining the past features with the newer ones, I mean there is no real coutnerargument for why some features are removed and why some arent, besides somethign Nintendo chose to stay in the past in terms of content.

@sublimelemon5444

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evilriku13 oh I mean absolutely an ultimate animal crossing game would be perfect! But fact of the matter is with how long it s was between NL and NH, and the switch combining their handheld and home console market, I think we're in for the long haul with this, and the changes to villager personality in the same game seems super unlikely. I feel at where we're at we would likely have better luck within this decade with an HD version of gc/ww or something.

@RickyRiceB

3 жыл бұрын

WW was my first game too, NH repetitive dialogue was the first thing I noticed was odd compared to WW. Sadly, I don’t have much incentive to play WW because of the commitment (not to mention the time) put in without friends when I can do that with NH and other switch games

@Alcosmos_

3 жыл бұрын

@metaphysicalgraffiti Why are you being so mean? It's the truth, and I also prefer the old games over NH. How are you "bad" in AC in the first place? Older games were not focused in competing with the best looking town, so "being bad" at it doesn't even make sense. The pure aesthethics competition which you are talking about, the best possible town, is what I don't like about the actual course of the series.

@sputnik6805

3 жыл бұрын

the part about moving letters reminds me when I was a kid playing WW as well, and I considered Kitt to be my best friend since I was quite lonely irl. When she left, I cried for weeks and felt guilty as I thought that maybe I had done something wrong. I miss Kitt and her developed personality. Even if I find her in NH, I don't think it'll feel the same. Though I might cry a bit lmao

I have so many memories of playing City Folk with my cousins. When Mallory moved in she was super mean so me and my cousin would put pitfall seeds around her house and hit her with a net to try and get her to leave. We even gave her the nickname “Mallaría”. It was really fun though because it made things interesting, and we also had some really nice villagers (Bill was my favorite!) One day she asked to move out and me and my cousin were so excited! Finally we got what we asked for! But then we thought about it... we thought about all the fun we had with her and all the favors we had done for her. And we realized we had a love hate relationship with her that was the BEST! So we made her stay and continued to bully each other while still giving each other gifts. Even today I do that with all of my friends and I think it helped shape my personality. Me and my friends always pick on each other but love each other more than anything! When Mallory moved into my NH island I was expecting that same feeling so I started being mean to her only to find out she was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. She was so... normal and boring. She didn’t put up any sort of fight she didn’t argue with me or call me names she just stood around. Idk why but it made me so sad to see this.

I really like the new ways to customize your island and be creative with it. i just wish that this freedom wouldn't come at the cost of villager interactions / personalities.

I watched this halfway through a villager hunt and now I feel like crap. That’s how good the video is

@Tama-Hero

4 жыл бұрын

oof sorry

@Raneter

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@makpanda2

3 жыл бұрын

Same was looking for Raymond then stopped after watching this video

@BriarPatchNyra

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you should my friend. Fact is I DO like my villagers. Yeah i wish they had more personality, but I still find things to enjoy about them, and that's not strictly looks. Two of my faves (I'm resetting my island but still) were Marcie and Bangle. They aren't UGLY but they're not the best looking by far, but I liked them enough to care. And honestly I had that mindset going in, the other AC game I played, the ONLY one, was the gamecube, so I know villagers with personality, but right off the bat I wanted (at the very least) cute villagers, now I did watch some videos and such in the week before I got it, so maybe they "corrupted" me xD but I don't need the absolute prettiest villagers to like them. I had Skye and Deirdre and thought they were gorgeous, but found Dizzy endearing. There's nothing wrong with aesthetic appeal, idk why that'd be condemned, it's okay to hunt out certain personalities like it's a dating sim, but certain looks aren't? You have no reason to feel bad about playing or enjoying NH, or wanting to find nice looking villagers ^^ Tama even said she didn't mean to come across as gatekeeping or anything like that. I personally love redesigning my house and island, I like making rooms, I like symmetry, and as someone with OCD it can be good for me to do that, organization, color schemes, etc. I don't NEED super fleshed out villagers, though I would like them! But if the cost of that was not being able to control and sculpt my island, and move things where I wanted? I'd likely not pick it. It's okay for them to be pretty dolls, though they should at least give you options where they're not.

19:36 "Letter writing was entirely removed the friendship equation" Me, having sent like 20 letters to the entire island: "Shit."

I seem to always press the b button when I’m talking to my villagers in Nh because It feels that I have already seen each text of dialogue and I want a villager update

I feel like they could easily keep the control the player has over the town and aesthetics while also keeping true to what I feel is the heart of how this game started. Relationships with villagers. I so wish my villagers didn’t all seem like children! Yes they’re adorable but I want Grumpy villagers to be grumpy. I feel like they could make over lapping personalities too, and i love the dynamic of working for a good relationship with your villagers. I remember being so astonished as a kid that these cute animals were absolute assholes, but over time realizing I’m winning their friendship by being nice to them - that felt great! I felt special! I miss that!!! I love how grumpy villagers in NH feel like grandpas but I hate that they’re like that the day you meet them. They can develop into nicer versions, but they don’t know me!!! They should act like it!!! I’ll also add that NH is all about aesthetics, and how your first 5 villagers have generic interiors. One of my first few is Sherb, he’s a true favorite of mine and I am so sad his interior is a dirt shack when he’s supposed to have an adorable home. But I don’t want to and don’t have the time to let him leave and find him again! I love him too much but I’m also stuck feeling bad that I cant even gift my way into him having a better house. They should advance at least when you’re moving houses around.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks villagers dialog has no personality anymore. I miss the unique interactions. ACNH is accessory based, i love it but I need the best of both worlds. Give me my animal friends back : (

@PortgasDAce-wt2qu

4 жыл бұрын

As a newcomer to AC, I also want to see more personality from the villagers as well. Maybe not as much as the long time fans of the franchise, but I can say that I understand them for wanting something that were from the previous games

@Robbie_Haruna

4 жыл бұрын

I want more personality and dialogue variety, while also not just making them randomly assholes like on GameCube. Like New Leaf did wonders for making the Cranky and Snooty villagers actually desirable to have around (instead of being the asshole and karen personality respectively.) But Animal Crossing has always coasted along with this repetitive dialogue, and it really needs more options so you're not hearing the same dialogue every day.

@Gabbkinsx3333

4 жыл бұрын

@@PortgasDAce-wt2qu I 100% agree with you. All the chats feel copy pasta in new horizon the last few games had variety

@Gabbkinsx3333

4 жыл бұрын

@@Robbie_Haruna the first few games were where their personalities shined, now they are so dull

@PortgasDAce-wt2qu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gabbkinsx3333 right?! Having 3 normal villagers doesn't help. Their convo with the other villagers are literal copy-paste from one another. It was saddening because 3 villagers felt like 1 villager only. I want them to at least say something other than "thanks" when i guve them something. Idc if they hate the hat i gave them, just be unique you know?

_Man I thought the friendship system was stellar in new horizons but when you compared it to the other games I realized I was wrong and just got depressed..._

@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571

3 жыл бұрын

glad this was eye opening for you 😂

@Uxkothar

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like New Horizons could be your first Animal Crossing experience (I only got into the series with New Leaf a few years ago as a side note so if this is the case I feel like I’m in a similar situation as I’ve never played any of the other previous games). I just want to say that it’s completely fine to think it’s friendship system is ‘stellar’ because if a gameplay mechanic in a game is fun and works for you then that’s what adds to your personal enjoyment and experience with a game which is the most important part of any game you play ☺️

YOOOO MY ART WAS ON THERE 55:42 In the middle!!! That’s pretty cool to see my stuff on a video🙌🏼✨

"The more time you spend with them the less they want to do with you" Ah so a more true to life friendship system.

@Shadamyfan-rs8xc

3 жыл бұрын

That feels relatable in a way. 😞

@ProjectEchoshadow

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shadamyfan-rs8xc I never remember my comments why is this one so good, I wish I could be this funny consistently

@tailsprowerfan2729

3 жыл бұрын

might as well have no villagers since they have no use i could have more room for things to make me more $

THANK U FOR BRINGING UP BUTCH. No one ever talks about him but when I played Wild World I used to be in love with him lmao. And I have him now in NH but he's so different wth. I still love him tho

I have two normals in my village and they can say the same exact stuff all the time. This is why the villagers need to be like the GameCube version except less aggressive

@shamma1354

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I wish the villagers had more personality but I don’t want them to be super agro and rude. I play the game to relax not get bullied.

@catwadogsname

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, but i’d also like my villagers be able to to plain-up insult me-

@johnperez2647

3 жыл бұрын

Dont_Gabby I won’t judge what yours into but I agree

@plejbojkarti

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh i would much prefer if some of them were salty and sassy, at least some of them..

@sputnik6805

3 жыл бұрын

i agree, though the fact that some characters were mean and some were kind made it way funnier

Man this is one of the things that made me so sad. I was so ready to learn more about different villagers but now they all cycle through the same dialogue based on personality :(

I still struggle to figure out whether they watered down the villagers’s personalities for them to become a source of comfort for the players (with increasing depression cases, global issues, Covid and etc…) or if they were too lazy to work on this properly or feared to receive fleets of parents complaining about their kids being sassed out by virtual animals.

@Artist.359.

Жыл бұрын

I think it's because they don't want complaints from today's parents.

The loss of unique villager interactions is truly such a shame. After sinking hundreds of hours into the game to make my island in NH how I want it, now I play for 30 mins max each day just to go through the motions of dealing with money trees, fossils, and talking with all my villagers. I don’t even know why I do it anymore, as I’m just feeling done with the game.

@eclipse_eternal8178

4 жыл бұрын

I can agree, after your island is done you are kinda just stuck doing menial tasks just waiting for the next update so you have something new to do.

@eclipse_eternal8178

4 жыл бұрын

The game just doesn’t feel as fleshed out maybe they are going to rectify this with future updates, I hope so.

@Wisteriablight4408

4 жыл бұрын

It really sucks that people have spent years playing new leaf and fleshing out their towns and bonding with their villagers but in new horizons people are done with the game in three months

@ombrablu7155

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wisteriablight4408 New Leaf was already watered down, but New Horizon is just like having a doll collection. Once you decorate everything like you want, there's no purpose anymore. You can't really play it, it's just there to be pretty. I still find myself playing Wild World for hours, but with NH I get bored after twenty minutes max

@piippiz

3 жыл бұрын

@@eclipse_eternal8178 The game was rushed out, and it will keep updating frequently for at least a year from now, easily more because of it's sudden burst of popularity

For me, a lot of my villager choices are now based on nostalgia. I want villagers I used to love in my town, like Rolf. Having a history with the AC series is sort of a blessing and a curse in that way, because I both like seeing my old friends, and am sad that they don't have as much complexity anymore.

@piippiz

3 жыл бұрын

What if the animals grew up and are busy doing animal things? What if their interests changed and they are just less enthusiastic now? There's alot of dialog, there's about 5 spots on every 3 rooms of the museum on every 3 exhibitions that vary for each 8 personality types, so there's about 360 unique dialog that is just super rare since it requires the animal to visit the museum.

@MMDAMV

3 жыл бұрын

@@piippiz You are right about the other dialogue, and I do like that! Even so, the individuality is harder to see, especially with multiple villagers of the same personality type on one's island. That's just me, of course!

@Allisonlikescats

3 жыл бұрын

Oh for sure, speaking with my favorites characters that I grew up with on the GameCube isn’t the same. I feel like they’re hollow and boring now, which makes me really sad 😭

Everyone hyping over Raymond when he's just cat Colin Robinson from What we do in the shadows

@rescune4021

3 жыл бұрын

His appearance doesnt even look unique tbh

@milkglassfairy7641

3 жыл бұрын

He’s rlly ugly imo :/ I don’t... understand? The hype? I don’t get it?!

@rescune4021

3 жыл бұрын

@@milkglassfairy7641 lmao stop trying to be quirky. Hes not ugly. And tbh theres barely anyone hyping for him now, and way more people complaining about hype now.

@zinmayoo6800

3 жыл бұрын

@@rescune4021 The only real "good" thing about him is that he have heterochromia....He have no soul other then that.

They got sick of being treated like objects and pulled an uno reverse on us.💀

i never thought id miss a small penguin insulting me over something trivial...

I never thought I would miss my villagers calling me a jerk or a bozo whenever I forgot to proofread my letters to them

I love how deep you dove into the mechanics of each game! Thanks for that! However, I've got some additional points (no real counterarguments but just a slightly different perspective) : In my opinion you heavily downplayed the impact visuals have on the perception of villagers as living creatures. Human communication is much more than just dialogue. This is partly a reason why NL was so lacklustre to me: the dialogue was shallow AND due to hardware limitations the visual expressiveness just wasn't there. But now in NH, with a beautiful (imo even perfect) HD art style, the audio-visual expressiveness is on point, which can make up for a lot. While the player alone has control over most of the environment alone, the villagers interact with and comment on it more than ever. This creates a sense of community on its own, that imo totally makes sense in the context of the deserted island. They arrived there to have a relaxed time away from everyday stress and wanted to give responsibilities like island maintenance to someone else - the player. So they automatically seem more relaxed, because on vacation one does not have as many everyday struggles. If the concept isn't someone's cup tea,. that's fine, but *on paper* the concept is executed brilliantly. (I totally agree that the game has balance issues when it comes to triggering the "good" dialogue and interactions tho. I hope they change the rates through an update just like they did with the visitors) Also every personality type now has 2 subtypes, which brings slight differences in dialogue. Those differences seem to be very small on paper, but in practice they make a huge difference for me so far. So a villagers character now consists of: - animal species/general appearance (yes this also contributes heavily to the perception of a character and in NH they are more pronounced than ever) - personality type - personality subtype - house facade + interior - hobbies, which are heavily pronounced in this game bc they appear in dialogue *and the villagers spend most of their time pursuing their hobbies in non verbal ways* One last point in this overly long comment would be the choice that players have. While you don't have to talk to villagers to make progress, you surely CAN make an effort to talk to them as often as possible. the first 2-3 dialogues each day are kinda samey, but if you really want to dig deeper, there is a ton of great dialogue hidden. You just have to put the effort in trying to get to know a villager better, just like with real people. Talkingto them in different places, during different activities, on different times of the day, etc... Not everyone is going to tell you their whole life story in the morning 2 days after you just met, expecially not in a vacation-like context. TL;DR: Visuals and interactions with the environment have a huge impact on the authenticity of a character and there's a lot of great dialogue in NH, it's just not perfectly distributed and it's not a necessity but rather a reward.

I can’t believe this video has been in my recommendations for so long, and I haven’t clicked on it sooner. This video was amazing. I agreed with a lot of things mentioned here, and it’s sad that the Animal Crossing franchise is declining in terms of the quality of villager interactions, one of its most staple features.

dang you basically described exactly why i like wild world the most out of all the other games and why i've had the most fun RECENTLY playing that one. i always knew that the complete lack of personality, conflict or just dialogue in new horizons bugged me but i never totally realized how engrossed you get in the community you live in in wild world. i would like to think they could add in more dialogue as the game goes on through patches or whatever, but i've already lost interest in the game because of there basically being no full relationships with your villagers. it makes me really sad since i was so excited for the game, and now there's not much to do other than dress up my town and try to pay for infrastructure. (also i have to interact with REAL people more to get certain things i want, which i also find a bummer since i primarily enjoy playing animal crossing alone these days)

@thejest69

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I also worry updates will be superficial things like new patterns for furniture or new objects to place outside. Not big things like updating the friendship system or improving dialogue trees so the villagers can use more of that writing the game supposedly has. The sheer number of times they just give me a single line of "gee, you sure talk to me a lot," is ridiculous. Sadly things like superficial updates and treating the villagers like cute little props to place here and there is kind of what gets the most attention on social media, while things like a game character seeming human your friendship with them feeling real aren't exactly talked about.

I was definitely not expecting a full-on dissection of Animal Crossing and how its systems and more deep mechanics were affected or influenced from game to game, let alone, from villager to villager, but wow. The amount of effort and research done for this video alone is super commendable, great work!

I would LOVE to see a City Folk video. It definitely has the most "what were they thinking" moments out of all of them.

One year later, and they’ve sort of expanded the dialogue, but not the best. I really want drama, and emotion. I try to imagine them with drama, sass, and actual personality, but I know sadly it won’t ever happen.

This is something that's been on my mind for awhile now (pretty much since the release of New Horizons). I did notice while playing New Leaf that cranky and snooty villagers weren't rude at all, but failed to notice how bland other characters were since I wasn't really old enough to see it when I played Wild World and sometimes City Folk. Playing New Horizons made me realize the problem. All of my favorite villagers are based on my experiences with them. In Wild World, my favorites were Stitches because he was nice to me (and also my brother liked him and I wanted to be JUST LIKE HIM at that point), Puddles and Freckles because me and my cousin swapped them multiple times, Bluebear because she was my cousins best friend, Brie because she introduced me to the song Two Days Ago, and some others as well. But I really only picked up one new favorite in New Leaf, and that's Gruff. Gruff isn't liked really and his design isn't the greatest honestly. But once I got past his crankiness, he started to mail me letters regularly and quickly became my best friend. In New Horizons, I got Hornsby and instantly fell in love. But now that I realize it, I don't really know him that well at all. If I want to really know who he is, I'd have to be lucky enough to get him in Population: Growing. I know this because he has the exact same dialogue as Stitches in New Horizons, which also sucks because I know Stitches from Wild World and he is not the same. A week ago, I picked up Wild World again because of this. I guess part of it was to relive the countless hours I spent playing with my cousin, but I did also want to revisit old villagers. I lost my original copy in a move six years ago, so I had to start fresh. It is incredibly amazing. I ended up with some of my favorites, or just other I'm familiar with (Savannah, Dizzy, Tangy, etc.). I actually ended up with Butch, but I'm a bit furious with him right now. One day, I found him in boxes and I tried to get him to stay, but he went on about how I'm never nice to him and I can't just expect him to drop all of his plans for me. Like, I'm sorry. I have known you for one week, and I wanted you to stay? I guess we can't all be sweeties. But anyways, I get so much enjoyment from just running around my town, looking for dorsal fin fish, and getting pinged by villagers. I find myself initiating conversations a lot in Wild World because a lot of what they have to say is interesting or hilarious. I New Horizons, I rarely talk to villagers because I usually just check the stores and turnip prices, and I just let 4000 turnips rot because I wasn't invested enough to sell them because I was spending my time playing a game in the same series from 15 years ago! New Horizons feels so lonely at times, because it's just me and as you said, dolls in their perfect doll houses. I've never really been in to designing my towns, with the most I do usually just being pathways. It kinda sucks, it feels like this is the end of an era. A lot of games I used to love just don't hold up in future iterations (Pokemon, Super Monkey Ball, Sonic, to name a few) I loved the video! Despite it now being 4:00am, I watched the whole thing in one sitting. I've been watching for about seven years now, and honestly some of your content in general is nostalgic for me. I'm for sure going to pick up one of your plushies (hopefully you sell enough!) and I really ought to start watching your streams. Sorry for writing a whole autobiography, but please know that all the work you put into your content does not go unappreciated!

@mateox1364

3 жыл бұрын

Damn I feel you. Wild World was my absolute jam back in the day, my favorite Villager being Kiki the black kitty, I remember having so many countless and interesting conversations with her, and she would always gift me something cool. Bro she was my AC crush back then lol. But sadly she just doesn't feel the same anymore in NH. I think the main reason why some of our favorite video game franchises are so bland in comparison nowadays is because they simply lack the charm and personality that the older games had. And it's a damn shame... Welp, I guess I could go back in time and play Wild World and GameCube AC on my emulator.

As someone who started with new leaf, i was barely even interested in the outdoor customization lmao. My island sucked and my interest in the game was almost entirely in my character, my home and the villagers! i even had crushes on some of em!! Villagers like Chadder, Big Top, Colton, and Apollo were a huge part of my childhood even if Colton kept repeating the same dialogue about trains every hour. I can assure you I probably wouldve adored wild world even more than new leaf cus of the villager interactions!! And its a huge shame that villagers are just bland dolls now cus i really miss Apollo being cold or distant when i first met him.. now he just welcomed me with open arms and it feels so unnatural!! I wish Animal Crossing would just have a balance of good village customization AND good villager interaction, cus I love both aspects of the game so much!!!

@devilishmint4450

4 жыл бұрын

On another note, i was always excited to see stuff on bulletin boards by anonymous ppl and stuff but now NOBODY writes on the bulletin board except for you, your friends if they visit, and for announcements regarding events and birthdays,,.

@moyashiishi

3 жыл бұрын

i miss many things about NL, you had to spam talk with them to make them upset, and now i talk to someone 3 times a day and they say "oh we've been seeing each other too much today?" and i feel like they don't want to be my friends. i liked more when the villagers had more personality, but it hurts when you see your first villager (not the starters) pushing you away because you just want to talk with them.

@Goldy12378

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! My first and only game is New Leaf, and even though the personalities are a far cry from what they were in the older games, they are still much more interesting than the New Horizons villagers. Static lives in my town, and it was intriguing to see his dialogue from the first game compared to what he's like in NL. But I can only imagine how much they've scrubbed away his edge in NH...

@eleanorrigby7914

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I remember my first love being Filbert in wild world... and then he moved to my friends town. I had never felt such betrayal before

@KittyTheWeirdUnicorn

3 жыл бұрын

Im sure they’ll add updates to this soon

"one of the most popular villages ever" *enters sasha*

I'm gonna try out Wild World now, sounds like the best game in the franchise with the balanced game play aspects

@journeyingjay3458

2 жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@Donirexian

2 жыл бұрын

@@journeyingjay3458 Oh man, I totally forgot I made this comment. Let's just say I can't find my 3DS charger and haven't gotten to buying a new one. Some day though, some day.

@carrotcommunist9216

2 жыл бұрын

@@Donirexian How about now?

@jestersudz6085

2 жыл бұрын

im going 2 as well

@greenbanana1001

Жыл бұрын

I loved it as a kid

I played new horizons alot but i find my self not bothering to talk to the villagers. The same personalities say the same things. I never got attached to them like previous versions. They're just there for me to dump furniture and clothes onto them instead of throwing it away.

When Pecan moved into my New Horizons town, I was expecting a salty little squirrel. But the snooty villagers are more like refined villagers in this game. She's pleasant to have around, but I do miss being incredibly appalled and equally humored when a snooty villager would call me a "mental runt".

@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571

3 жыл бұрын

the closest i've gotten to an insult from a snooty character is blanche telling me to change my clothes because it's too hot and i made a wrong fashion choice! i was really happy that she was somewhat mean to me but i agree completely when you say they are more refined. i want the SASS!

@squishish

3 жыл бұрын

True, I was debating not getting a snooty villager bc they were known for being mean lol. But having Diana, all she's done is compliment my clothes when i wear put together outfits, or tell me i have an exquisite taste in gifts. Not much has really happened, and I was expecting her to at least be a little mean to me. It hasn't happened lol, I'd have to repeatedly hit her with a net or push her around to make her do anything rude.

@madhatt3r93

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god did they really do that? ghpgphpghpg

@lilyhomma6965

3 жыл бұрын

The "personality types" apparently don't even mean anything anymore :(

@lilyhomma6965

3 жыл бұрын

@@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571 unrelated question - which group is the MOA fandom for?

New Leaf was my first game, and I felt that cranky and snooty villagers were still pretty mean, if not to me; I remember specifically Greta and Miranda always gossiping about other villagers behind their backs. But interacting with them still felt so meaningful, my heart would break every time someone up and moved! 😭💔 And I ended having a soft spot for LIMBERG of all villagers because he ended up warming up to me. When he moved, it felt like seeing off an old friend as they're heading off to start the next chapter of their life.

8 y/o me cried when angus moved out from my town in wild world. lmao i thought we were dating 💀

@V__Vahaa

2 жыл бұрын

Those where the days 😂

@Tyler-yp5ve

2 жыл бұрын

I legit remember drawing fanart of peaches after she moved out of my town and then wrote her letters in game constantly hoping I could somehow mail them to her to get her to move back LMAO

So i bought only one amibo card for this game, it was for Jay. He was my favorite villager back in the gamecube game as a kid, he was just so friendly! But, I have to admit its so jarring to have him in my New Horizons town, he just doesn't feel the same at all. I'm sure it was mostly nostalgia, but this video was helpful in showing it was also likely something to do with the more involved systems of the old game

@alexabreezyy

3 жыл бұрын

I did the exact same with my favorite, Roscoe, who I’ve had in every prior game. I feel the same as you and having Roscoe in my town now honestly makes me sad... he’s like an empty caricature of his old self. I don’t think it’s just your nostalgia.

@ombrablu7155

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite villager is a cranky one, Cyrano. I've had him in every game of the series, it's quite disappointing to see how his personality got more and more uninteresting and flat game after game. The cranky and snooty villagers are suffering from this issue more than others, but everyone is just so boring and watered down now it almost hurts.

@piippiz

3 жыл бұрын

Cranky villagers are only cranky on their dialogue when they talk to other villagers. The uchi personality seems the most mean right now. Snooty villagers have kinda lost their purpose when all everyone talks about is what the player did yesterday, their tattletale personality doesn't stand out when every villager now does that. Snooty personality Judy seemed creepy to me, being nice to me but harrassing my other villagers and jumping barbwire fences to do so, but Opal seems like such a mild mannered fancy lady, nothing is off and they behave. Smug personality Phil was very annoying, using other language words incorrectly and just inviting himself to my island, talking all high about himself all the time, and he seems bothered by my attention every time, when Raymond never made such a number about himself on my campsite, just acted very humbly. He does talk about playing some role often, but he has way more cute town tune opening and voice and expressions. And I didn't much care about Raymond before they just showed up I think that now the hippo and rhino and anteater and wolves, every animal with an physical moving jaw and eyes on the sides of the head suffer from expressing less emotion somehow. They can't smile. Merengue is unique and super cute, but I think Bea is better for expressing emotions in a more exaggerated way. While they don't have distinguished differences, there's still some personal preference and a different feel of the characters. it sucks when u have heard most of the dialogue, but there are many hidden gems like inside a museum, stung by a bee, KK slider visiting, bug off day, fishing tourney day, inside the shops, villager to villager conversations, the rare personality quizzes where u get to pick one answer out of 3 options from a pool of 4 options, comments about a specific piece of furniture (like many villagers don't have plants or a TV or kitchen equipment, but if u gift them one, they have a dialog for it) ....but on the field they really need a bit more variation. They need to offer the treasure hunt minigame more often and have a prompt to make them visit the museum (maybe as a kind of date, but more so that you get them to visit the museum so that u can get the 5 different dialogs that they have in each of the 3 rooms in each of the exhibitions in the museum. I've only got like 3 ever, and I bet every personality has different ones too! That makes 5x different spots for dialogue in 3 x 3 rooms in the museum times 8 personality types = 360 different dialogue options. And I have got 3 different in 3 months of playing, 700 ingame hours. So much personality, but basically inaccessible. We all know that the game was released unfinished, maybe as a marketing tactic because nintendo is good at it, see how they ration the consoles they sell and the plastic amiibo figurines especially. There are still many many changes and additions coming, so maybe if we make some noise, they'll still change or add some mechanics. This is my first AC game, I guess I'm lucky not to have prior experience from the games. I heard how grindy they were, and while I'm perfectly fine with the grind, I never had the consoles the games were for. I'm just a little dissapointed in how Isabelle is employed in the game. I'd love to see her have her own house or just stretch her legs more.

@superrob1500

3 жыл бұрын

I actually got the game a month ago and recently decided I'd move in most of my OG villagers from my 10+ year GC save to my island but after this video I realize it's maybe not worth the effort. Sure I can emulate Amiibo cards and get all of them pretty effortlessly at no real world cost but why not just go for the aesthetic ones if they're this watered down? Hoping updates can help.

The bootleg amiibo market exploded after this game launched, too.

@justaboutmcfreakinhadit9571

3 жыл бұрын

people out here making amiibo cards outta white pieces of plastic like tf

@cinnabonbon

3 жыл бұрын

ONCE an ARMY always STAY a MOA they do that bc people are insane when selling amiibos, u wanted to find out what the hype around them was about so i searched it on amazon and the first thing i saw was someone selling raymond for 1000 dollars, judy for 200, (they dont even have amiibos) and a marshal+ankha amiibo for 144+- ppl make fake cards bc its cheaper probably, and most of the ppl still selling cards are scalpers

@BlackFlagHeathen

3 жыл бұрын

Modern problems require modern solutions. *Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.*

@elizabethhannah4332

3 жыл бұрын

It’s because Nintendo isn’t making those cards anymore and scalpers are charging 10x what they’re worth at the least. Nintendo is really slacking on making merchandise for NH and it makes sense that people are making the most of it. Welcome to capitalism

I do understand why they decided to focus on aesthetics instead of villagers. How popular animal crossing has gotten shows that they are doing the right thing. Nintendo is about games for everyone, so the best way is to stay safe. As someone who didn’t play the older games, I do actually like the characters. If you spend time to talk to them and give them gifts, you can build a relationship. Also write them letters because they’ll say a lot more in letters. You actually have to put in effort to build that relationship, it’s not just a mandatory game mechanic. I actually stick with a few favs in my town and will never move them out. The version may also matter, I play the English version, but my friend plays the Chinese version. And the conversations in Chinese were more interesting. Like Raymond is super popular because he hits on everyone, he romanticizes with the player and the other female villagers. This apparently doesn’t happen in the English version? ( I don’t have him).

@latemporis5430

Жыл бұрын

I read that smug personality in original Japanese is pretty flirty as well. However I think western audience tends to be sensitive over this sort of thing so they played safe and kept everything friendly.

I'm so sad about acnh not being that friendship-focused. In New Leaf my absolute favorite villager used to be Graham because he had such a cute personality and would talk about being in a band when he was younger and stuff and i just loved him. Now with acnh i searched for him for so long and finally found him, was so happy, but quickly realized that his personality is so... bland now :( i was so hurt when people hated him because hes not that cute compared to others and i kinda get it now because he is soooo boring in acnh! i hope they will update the dialogue soon and i will finally be able to build my friendship with Graham again, as silly as it sounds, i really miss him.. :(

This is one of the reasons i got bored so quick of New Horizons. They watered down the two features i love most, decorating my home and talking to villagers. The lack of furniture in the game compared to New Leaf and the repeated dialogue is awful. Though i do love a lit of new features.

@Jay-fl5yr

4 жыл бұрын

The dialogue in New Leaf was already watered down as is..

@MicroBihon

4 жыл бұрын

They focused more on the "sandboxy and crafty" part of AC. I for one miss how interactions go in Wild World

@RadenWA

4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty overwhelmed by the amount of furnitures already though, I'm surprised NL have way more than that?

@marsisabean4108

4 жыл бұрын

IKR!!!! I want to kick all the nice villagers that I have just because they cant wear a shirt. They are so nice but they only sit and bake cookies

@HiJello64

4 жыл бұрын

NH is an ocean of watered down to NL’s lake.

Starting out with New Horizons as my first Animal Crossing game, even I can agree that the dialogue is repetitive most of the time. I cherish my favorite villagers and learned to love the ones I was stuck with by the game's random RNG. It's kinda sad that after playing for so long, I get super excited to see any new dialogue. Namely when villagers of different personalities strike up a conversation, which happens once in a great while. Sure, a lot of the dialogue is always played ad nauseam, but at least some of the personalities (lazy is my favorite) can have some hilarious quotes if you become better friends with them.

You took a looong time to say "Nintendo has figured out that the easiest way to get ppl to play their games is to remove any and all challenge".

This perfectly explains why I bounced off New Horizons so hard and so fast. I didn’t even realize it.

As someone who's first experience with AC is new horizons (because I was always too poor for any sort of console) I really wish the characters had more personality and diverse dialogue, particularly when it comes to personality. The whole reason I bought the game was to interact with the villagers because I'd heard so much about the quirky dialogue and fun personalities, and when the villagers interact with each other I can definitely see the charming elements of their personalities, but when they're talking specifically to me, I feel like they're just trying to say stuff to please me. That's why as an artist I've made more diverse personalities and backstories for each character, which helps me enjoy the characters and the game more, but I know that that's not everyone's cup of tea. Still I do enjoy the game, I have 300+ hours on it so they must be doing something right. Idk I just want the characters to feel like characters, like if Vivian wants to comment on my nasty ass clothes please let her insult me, if butch wants to bully me because I forgot to deliver the tank top he bought for Katt please let him.

@dcscruz2970

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the thing. The game drains battery more than others (I used Hollow knight and NH and checked how much battery they take) so some updates as major as that could f it up. As well as many people kinda like the superficial dialogue out of wanting a safe space of projecting their ideals on them. Which is okay although makes for a meh gameplay for those who expect a more life sim. In my opinion I wish the characters were more interesting and used the mechanics of decoration to enhance. For example to make you help with a birthday party where you have to take into account the villager’s personality to succeed and getting a rare item like a star fragment or so in return. Or even them wanting you to help make their backyard cooler once you have a high happy home academy score as the villagers see you as a top notch designer

@aniyaturner6

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't born when acgc, and ww came out so I missed out but I do have a 2ds and new leaf so I'm looking for wild world. Unlucky for me dad sold our wii and he never had a GameCube so I can't buy the rest Of the series 😭

@TXFDA

2 жыл бұрын

That's the thing. New Horizon isn't a BAD game. It does quite a lot of things well. And it definitely has that vibe of wanting to do one more thing before turning it off. It's also still the usual chill and relaxed game. The thing is, when compared to the previous games, it's lacking quite a bit. I will say, it does some stuff that I love. I love the extra slots for custom patterns. I love being able to decorate OUTSIDE and not just in your house. I like the daily goals. It gives you more to do so you don't run out of stuff so quickly. I love the extra customization for your own character (I started New Leaf recently and I hate the face it gave me, but I'm too far into my game to want to restart just to get a new face). And graphically it's pretty damn nice. The online stuff is pretty good too. The ease of the Dodo codes to just hop to someone's island is nice. And the IDEA of rare villagers is cool, because you could visit other islands to see them, but it kinda just turned into everyone gaming the system to try and get rare villagers. Which, considering the lack of personality they have in New Horizon, I can't really blame people for focusing more on the looks of a character instead of the character themselves. There's also a serious lack of furniture in NH (even to the point where pretty much ALL of the Nintendo-themed items from previous games....are just gone.) On top of that, there's almost TOO much focus on the Online. A lot of people play Animal Crossing because of their real life anxieties. They're not gonna want to join other players. They wanna sit on their island or in their town, and make friends with the villagers (the villagers that now just feel like boring video game npcs). Plus there's little things like your tools being able to break (including the higher quality ones), or the fact that you couldn't even swim in the game when it first came out despite that being a feature in New Leaf. They took two steps forward and three steps back. That's why a lot of players are going back to older games. Mostly New Leaf, but I've seen some people say they went back to Wild World, or even the original on Game Cube. Even aside from the lack of personality, I just hate when every villager is nice, constantly. I WANT a villager every now and then to be mean to me. I WANT villagers to be in a bad mood. I WANT at least one of my villagers to just be a permanent asshole. I want my villagers to be interesting.

hopefully, if anything, we get an update that gives them more personality and dialogue

@BerryMilkWay

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@icy101yt

3 жыл бұрын

They did it like this because of the switches data management so if they add more dialogue they would have to jettison something else and make the game either worse looking and with less features

@starpower1884

3 жыл бұрын

@@icy101yt bro stop lying.. adding extra text that each type of villager says is not memory consuming as adding new items. Plus new leaf had more dialogue for the villagers than this game. You're just making up an excuse because I'm pretty sure if they wanted to add new dialogue they wouldn't have to make the graphics or something else look worse just for new text on screen.

@starpower1884

3 жыл бұрын

@@icy101yt and if the switch is data management is that bad then how come super Smash Bros has more data than animal crossing new horizons? Stop spreading miss information.

@icy101yt

3 жыл бұрын

@@starpower1884 take it from a kid who has built many computers you dont know how tech works

"A villager you've probably never heard of at all! Butch!" *has him in every animal crossing game along with Goldie and poncho

My first animal crossing game was wild world and I loved the villager interactions. I wish they would bring that system back it made the game super fun for me.

@greenbanana1001

Жыл бұрын

Same

I make a lot of headcanons off of my villagers so they feel more expanded upon. Some headcanons are based on their personality, some are based on the fact that I liked the idea.

@TaylorofNewHope

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I kind of do this, as well.

@puropuro4341

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@kingseagull16

3 жыл бұрын

i do the same exact thing, makes them feel so much more alive in my head than they actually are ;~;

@theglasswolf3206

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I like doing this because I enjoy being creative & coming up with stories, but sometimes I want a break and want the game to essentially hold my hand and come up with things for me.

@sapphie_MEALS

3 жыл бұрын

I have some weird headcanons lol. Sherb is my son, Chief is my husband and we love each other very much, and Gigi is trying to ruin our relationship. I feel like my city folk town is connected to my new horizons because that's where Chief, Gigi, and everyone else is. Rod is my favorite villager and my best friend but he moved away in city folk. I feel like I'll see him again in new horizons, he kept saying I would.

Honestly, the villagers are making me consider moving back to New Leaf. They still had some personality in that game at least

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could but my 3DS is broken rip

@shadowpunk93

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I keep going back to mine! I play NH daily, but I find myself going back to NL a lot too. They desperately need more furniture, more dialogue, more personality, etc. Honestly, my favorite games to play were the first one and WW because of the interactions you had with villagers. I really hate that they're just a prop... Heck, even NL made me care way less on what each villager looked like! I still made some really good friends on there!

@anj41

3 жыл бұрын

i’m honestly tempted to buy an older game since i’ve got new leaf, that is how much i want the personality and not the boring repetitive dialogue

@cynthiaaranda2095

3 жыл бұрын

@@anj41 same, i still feel attached to my new leaf characters but i want to try out wild world to see how much more personality they have

@bubblemonkeys

2 жыл бұрын

The first animal crossing i played is new horizons so I wouldn't know anything

"Nowadays people judge aesthetic rather then personality." Mmh, so that explain why Animal Crossing is losing personality..

because you basically only get villagers you want based on utility (one of each personality type so that you can get all the reactions and DIYs) and looks in ACNH, the few times I've gone to my friend's islands we all have the exact same villagers because we only want the really pretty ones.

(Rewatch squad!) The decision in NH to have one island per console rather than per profile still baffles me. As someone who's only played NH on a secondary profile I feel like a villager with expanded abilities, or an online visitor, rather than a real player/contributor. There are a lot of controls and options locked to the primary account that first creates the save. This seems to me like a deliberate decision rather than a technical hurdle, but I could be wrong. While watching this I first thought the rationale was to provide shared Switch consoles an instant multiplayer experience, but the fact that the games have now leaned so heavily into players having ultimate control, I feel like the functionality of secondary players here clashes directly with that design philosophy. I've pretty much dropped playing NH until I can afford a Switch and a copy of my own, because the non-primary experience feels so half-baked.

@calvezthemexicanjedi6443

4 жыл бұрын

I don't even mind the one island per system thing, but the fact that all players aren't equal is just baffling to me. I could maybe see the merit if it was an OPTION, but the fact that it's the only way to play the game makes absolutely no sense to me

@francisco.mrsm.22

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this decision is pretty arbitrary. Equally large and larger games like Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey allow players to have multiple individual files, so it just feels like the single island limit was a very feeble attempt to keep players from cheating I guess? I kinda like the idea of people getting to live together on an island as an option, but when it's mandatory it feels very weird. Especially if you have siblings (like I do) that want to build their own individual island to their taste.

@pendeshu6542

3 жыл бұрын

exactly! my brother is the main player and i have to go on his account to build bridges/inclines and move buildings ! im always tired of waiting for him so i just play on his account to get shit done

@magicalmermaidarts7559

3 жыл бұрын

This!! My sister is the one with the Animal Crossing, and its so...lack luster. ESPECIALLY during multiplayer, when you have to follow Player 1 around! and even if I buy a ACNH copy myself, 99% sure it would just load her island :// I wanna make my own island and have villiagers I like!

I've seen a lot of people who started with New Horizons complaining about how rude and abrasive villagers were when going back to the older games, and even being frusterated with the villagers having rude or unskippable dialogue in New Horizons itself, which I think kind of shows that a lot of the "dumbing down" of the villagers probably is to make them appeal to a broader market. Because the game has a reputation now as a cute innocent soft game popular with teenagers and young adults (especially young adult women who like that sort of thing), I feel like having the villagers be more cute blank slates helps the game be more accessible, at the expense of becoming less unique from player to player.

@Robbie_Haruna

4 жыл бұрын

Well the Gamecube dialogue is particularly infamous because it was the localization team's fault. They randomly embellished certain things for shits. That's why so many villagers had dialogue where they were just verbally beating you down and sounded like terrible people, even though it massively clashed with the tone of the game. Wild World onward they followed the Japanese script more closely so that's why they're not assholes near as much (though over time they did gradually phase the Cranky and Snooty villagers farther away from functionally being the dickhead and karen personalities.)

@sonarpanels

4 жыл бұрын

TheFanficFanPony NH is my first Animal Crossing game so seeing the depth of the older games, I wish villagers were more unique other than their appearance. Also I WISH MY VILLAGERS INSULTED ME! I don’t care if their rude, because all my villagers are t o o nice.

@unripetheberrby6283

4 жыл бұрын

@@sonarpanels Same and can agree lol

@unripetheberrby6283

4 жыл бұрын

Rude in NH?? Wha? Too rude to 6 years olds maybe >:o 😂

@Robbie_Haruna

4 жыл бұрын

@@unripetheberrby6283 He means the old games I assume. GameCube in particular was really bad about having villagers talk like schoolyard bullies.

"Someone you may have never heard of, Butch" Me, who's had Butch in Wild World, New Leaf, and New Horizons without an amiibo card: 😐

What's interesting is the thing about the trading cards technically started in the GameCube era it just wasn't popular. Specifically I'm referring to the e-reader cards which much like the Amiibo cards can make any villager move into your town. So yeah they were playing the long con I guess

Kept getting this as a suggestion so I dived in feet-first. My first game was City Folk, I spent so many hours on that game. Even when I time traveled and grinded out literally everything you could for City Folk, I never felt bored of the game because of all the interactions I could have and things I could do for the villagers. (I know Tama says she didn't play for long, but it does honestly look like it kept a lot of core elements from the earlier games; they pinged me pretty often to send me on trips to give gifts, visit their houses, etc. etc. but it might've been purely friendship level and would've had to have been found out through months of gameplay like Tama says) I then played New Leaf to tide me over before I got my Switch + NH. Again, I grinded out nearly everything right off the bat. I got all the possible town projects, I had huge amount of bells from beetles, etc etc. I didn't feel bored of the game during the month and a half-ish I played it before making the switch, pun slightly intended. Then, New Horizons. I noticed something immediately off the bat for myself. In the older games, I didn't CARE what the villagers looked like. I had some cute ones (bluebear and fang) but I also had some "ugly" ones by today's standards (harry the hippo, and mac the dog come to mind immediately) but I built meaningful friendships with them bc they all seemed so unique and amazing, even if they didn't have such flourishing personalities like animal forest or wild world. In New Horizons... I care purely about the look. They're all SHELLS, so why not pick the best looking ones to keep around? I can talk to 5 Peppys and get the exact same dialog back to back, so why NOT pick the better looking of the 5 to keep around? And when they're shells, it's even easier to shill them out for NMT or bells and not even feel guilty about it. If they're cute and popular but I already have someone of my own tastes on my island, I'm going to sell the cute, popular one for a "quick buck" so to say. I found Audie on a mystery island, but I have Sprinkle who's more my style, so I sold Audie bc I KNEW i could get NMT and bells. The community is exactly like a gacha-game community. I was apart of a gacha-game community for like 2 years and it's almost 1:1 with minor changes to the currency and the slang used. "OMG i just had to spend $50 to get that cute dress for my character" has the same exact energy as "OMG i just spent 300 NMT to find Raymond on a mystery island"

I've already watched this once but you really put a lot of work in it so I'm going to watch it again

@mistermiles3271

4 жыл бұрын

Rukodiora that’s the most I’ve laughed in a while, thank you

@bruhbot9779

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT A NERD LMAOOOO 👶

@xSiriusOmen

4 жыл бұрын

SIIIIIIIIIMP

@SodaPopBot

3 жыл бұрын

Pimp

@indigothecat

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing, lol.

The dialogue in ACNH reminds me of those little bits of text that you'd get when you tapped the speech bubbles above a Mii in Tomodachi Life. But it worked because thats just it: they are short little mundane comments and NOT at all the main dialogue. Very upsetting to see that type of stuff get turned into actual dialogue in this game.