The Evolution Of The Submachine Gun | Weapons That Changed The World | War Stories
They are some of the most iconic and recognizable weapons in the world - the Tommy Gun, the Uzi and the Schmeisser. Host Wil Willis explores the evolution of the submachine gun, and put it greatest examples to the test.
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Arguably the best submachine gun of WW2 was the Owen, particularly suited to very harsh jungle conditions. It had a separate compartment inside the receiver, which isolated the small-diameter bolt from its retracting handle using a bulkhead. It could be deeply and completely immersed in mud, withdrawn and still function. As far as I know it's the only automatic weapon that had that ability. It also saw use in Vietnam.
@michaelcoulter1725
Ай бұрын
Well during the Cold War the best submachine gun ever used was the H&K MP5 it was one of the greatest submachine guns ever and is still used today
@drboris01
Ай бұрын
I was about to ask where the Owen gun was.
@davekrab3363
Ай бұрын
@@michaelcoulter1725 The father of the Owen gun was teenaged when he designed it. 🇦🇺 ✌️
@trungbao8452
Ай бұрын
Oh I was think that must be PPS - 43
@badiuzzamansatti6391
Ай бұрын
Owen gun is quite similar to British sten gun , than Russians used ppsh in bulk and Germans used STG 44
Didn't mention the Sterling/Sten from the UK. I think there was also one (Reisen) used by Marine Raiders and the SSF.
I love how understated the SAS guy was, totally matter of fact and not interested in shooting pickleball jars or green grocers stalls.
The German mp 18 was the first submachine gun
@terrisommella720
Ай бұрын
Yup.
@apersonyoudontknow5492
Ай бұрын
It is, though the term sub machine gun was used by Thompson
@sweracoon7931
Ай бұрын
@@apersonyoudontknow5492This is correct, the Germans used the term "machine pistol" (machinpistole). But for all intents and purposes, the weapons were meant to fullfill the same role. The MP18 was the first SMG to see active battlefield service.
@lt.pineapples8772
Ай бұрын
Y'all not watch or listen to what they say after the 4 minute mark haven't ya?
@YedolfWesler
5 күн бұрын
America can't accept that
“You don’t get anything cheaper or simpler than this sub machine gun, the M3 Grease Gun”, I think the British Sten gun might take issue with that comment.
@JoaoSoares-rs6ec
Ай бұрын
yes it will, the sten is cheaper and simpler, but then again so would the russian pps43, its even simpler and cheaper.
@leoarc1061
Ай бұрын
This guy says right at the beginning of the video that "SMGs are the preferred weapons of terrorists". We never see a terrorist carrying an AK. Absolutely never. So, this guy, as well as this entire series is full of BS. Watch it for entertainment. Do not watch it for its veracity.
@mattmansell4238
Ай бұрын
Your 100% right! Sten is easily the simplest.
@sid__vicious
28 күн бұрын
Sten-wool's worth gun
@mrjockt
28 күн бұрын
@@sid__vicious Yes, it became known as the ‘Woolworths’ gun because you couldn’t get it any cheaper.
Father of all Submachine guns is actually the Mp-18, but I digress. The Chicago Typewriter is iconic for being the most recognizable and recognized best early(ist) Smg.
@patriot17764th
Ай бұрын
Mp-18s where even used by China.
@patriot17764th
Ай бұрын
Mp-18s where used by China too.
@sweracoon7931
Ай бұрын
For sure the Tommy is far more recognizable and iconic, but any serious historian wouldn't make the claim that it's the "father of submachineguns".
“And This…is Triggers!” 😆😆😆 LOVED this show. My wife did as well. Super cool stuff. ❤😎👍❤
@jerrynaylor4092
Ай бұрын
They copied it from the old military channel. This is copyright infringement.
In the Army, my primary weapon was the M1 Garand. I was also trained on the M1911. 45 ACP pistol. Also the BAR, Ma Deuce, 3.5 inch rocket launcher (bazooka). Saved the M3 grease gun for last. Nobody mentioned that with the M3, it feels like two recoil impulses every time it fires. The first one when it fires. The second one when the breechblock hits the snubber at the end of its travel. The .45 ACP cartridge is already subsonic (less than 1100 feet per second) in its standard form. In operations requiring suppressed fire, it is far more effective than anything with subsonic forms of .355 Parabellum. Please note that I am American in CHARACTER as well as nationality and am actively purging Metricrap from my use of the English language. Metricrap is a foriegn language being crammed down our throats by anti-Americans bent on turning us into all the places our ancestors fled from. We are a world LEADER and need to ACT like it instead of kissing up to these (people of illegitimate birth).
I've fired the Thompson, MP40, Uzi, and MP5. My favorite is the MP5!
@ghostofcpast8893
Ай бұрын
Me too. It's why I own one
@johnfeliciano585
Ай бұрын
I like the FN P90
@michaelsix9684
Ай бұрын
yes, MP5 is great weapon
@benj.deguzman0704
18 күн бұрын
Most of them are famous Submachine Guns
LMAOOO at 36:37 you can see they were just shooting the dummy with the gun not the suitcase
@JamesBrown-hp5ul
24 күн бұрын
Lmao you're right
Australia’s Owen Gun was the ultimate in submachine guns due to its simplicity and reliability.
Love the way you gave the other guy a bottle twice the size. Lol
"The SMG is the preferred weapon of terrorists" Is this guy eating the wrong type of mushrooms? Picture a terrorist in your mind. Any terrorist! What weapon will he be carrying? Yes, you're right! Of course he will be carrying an AK rifle!
Hopefully one day one of these history channels that upload older documentaries will upload tales of the gun.
@patriot17764th
Ай бұрын
I'd love that myself.
Well Thompson was hands down the best even by today's standard .45 acp in a close range cqb is absolute devastating
@seanlander9321
Ай бұрын
So long as it didn’t jam, it was notoriously unreliable due to its complexity.
@8MADJACK
Ай бұрын
It has it's flaws but reliability isn't one
@rajbiswas9077
29 күн бұрын
@@8MADJACK the m1928 and the a1 models had the jamming issues.. they cleared that in the m1a1s later
It's been years since I've watched this video when it was first aired on the History Channel.
Any idiot could hit those bottles that close...its like being at the fairground as a kid...someone just have give them a teddy bear ar the end😅
What happened at 36.35 min the brief case break open and eject the brass? Or was Will needing help by a MP-5 A3? M3A1 Greese Gun vs M3 Greese Gun?
@shadowind9856
Ай бұрын
I noticed that aswell I think they put in a different clip on purpose or by accident I'm not sure
You forgot the British Sten and the German MP 18 do better next time .
@badiuzzamansatti6391
Ай бұрын
Please also include Russian PPSH and German STG 44 of that time
@RJM1011
Ай бұрын
@@badiuzzamansatti6391 STG 44 is NOT a sub machine gun !
@johnfeliciano585
Ай бұрын
And the Sterling AKA E-11 Blaster of Star Wars franchise
@OperatorMax1993
Ай бұрын
@@RJM1011 MP-44 MP stands for "maschinenpistole" (machine pistol), funny enough in the East German army they also called AKs "MPiK" (Maschinenpistole Kalashnikov)
@RJM1011
Ай бұрын
@@OperatorMax1993 Still does not mean it's a sub machine gun !
OhOh :) 36:36 Briefcase MP5 . . . and in the lower left Corner...😉 But very interesting Documentary at all
What an iconic and thrilling show! Thanks to this channel for running Triggers
and no 1' ever mentions the WW-1' imperial german army very underrated = Mp-18' submaching gyn which was small light and combat effective
"I believe Ya but my Tommy dont" - Angels with Filthier Souls
Nice introduction video about submachines..
The German MP 18 aka Machine Pistol 1918 was the first.
@mrjockt
Ай бұрын
You need to remember it wasn’t American therefor it can be safely ignored.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Germans actually got there first with the MP 18. Still love my Thompson though🥰
THE Father of the submachine gun is the Mp 18 from WWI.
STEN??
Un the Philippines we used to call it the criss cross gun
@ war stories your awesome thanks again
I’ve fired the 1928 A1 and M3. Both were awesome!
Where is the swedish K?
What I heard about the tommygun during ww2 is the more experienced guys would trade it to a new person for their Garand. I don't know how true that is as it's something I heard second hand so take that for what you will. I have also heard they were really particular to reload.
@jamesbarry6248
Ай бұрын
and no mention of the M1 carbine which later in the war could be fired full auto.
Absolutely love the Greaser!
The 300 blackout with a silencer might be the future.
Keep these coming
And the Sten !!!
"The father of all submachine guns is the Thompson". Really? Not the MP-18, or even the Villa Perosa. Sure the Thompson was an early SMG, but not the father of all submachine guns. That's kind of like saying the Ford Mustang is the father of all cars.
Well that’s not really true the Germans created the stemgever 44 it was a 1st generation AR15 style platform. The USA modeled the M16 after it.
@lt.pineapples8772
Ай бұрын
Do you even watch the video before you open your mouth? Plus they're talking about Sub Machine guns not assault rifles
How is it possible to talk about the "evolution" of the submachine gun and leave out the iconic Russian PPsh and PPS-43, weapons which were instrumental in the Russian defeat of the Nazis during WWII, remember?
@454FatJack
Ай бұрын
🇫🇮kp-1926/7,65mm 🇫🇮kp-1931/9mm Drum magazine. Soviet drum,, Thompson type ,or Mp-18?? No 🚩copy Finn magazine. 🇫🇮Mil HQ was in old Imp secret Police main Office Helsinki /Ohrana building Vilho Pentikäinen. Punanotkonkatu /Korkeavuorenkatu . Google maps❤ 🤫🇫🇮kp-44 9mm is ( Sudajev Pps) DUX series West Germany 1950’s
@clavididk1236
Ай бұрын
There's one in the background 😆
Bar is not a submachine gun like what? 30 06
@87GNX
Ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that.
Thought that was tim Kennedy for a second lol
@RJM1011
Ай бұрын
Thank f**k it was NOT !
Wil the host easily has the best sideburns on KZread
My father was Army, Vietnam happened while he was serving. They issued him a Tommy, he hated it but, it saved his life a few times while he was there.
Really guys......lets totally ignore the British who on balance, produced the cheapest, most numerous sub ever mad........the Sten! The Sten caused more havoc in German occupied territory in the hands of the resistance than any other weapon. A piece of utter genius on the part of its creator🥸🥸
38:14 try about 1150 fps for the 9mm, unless you are stating sub-sonic rounds.
very good watch
“The father of all submachine guns is the Thompson” wtf no it’s not try the mp18
The first US government entity to purchase the Thompson was the US Postal Service...
Nothing out performs a Shotgun at close range. Each pull of the trigger sends 9-9mm rds down range. You can send 81 rds down range inside 3 seconds..
@michaelsix9684
Ай бұрын
Ithaca and Winchester made great shotguns for the military
He didn't mention the mini-Uzi, in between the full-size & Micro Uzi.
26:32 Why is the guy on the right so determined to stare into the eyes of the other guy?
whats your thoughts on the british sten ?
I thought it was just called the Medal of Honor.🎖
Would’ve loved to see the type 100. Mp40 my favorite hands down of ww2. Mp7 is my 1 B
SAS showed how to properly use the MP5
Yknow not bad at all. somehow I kept hearing John Walsh's voice.
nice
"The father of all sub-machineguns is the Thompson." I imagine the MP18 Bergmann might take issue with that statement. EDIT: They do actually mention the MP18! My bad for not watching the entire video before commenting -.-
1:27 "The Father of the sub machine gun is the Thompson." Absolutely incorrect. The first mass produced submachine gun was the Bergmann MP 1,8. I turned off the video right afterwards.
@ianbarkham5080
Ай бұрын
Same here
@jurgenhilger6981
Ай бұрын
Same here
@1Ringsmith
Ай бұрын
Lanchester, Sten, Sterling ? Superficial, out of order,
@8MADJACK
Ай бұрын
You turned it off too soon, they talked about the MP18 and the villa perosa, but the Thompson was the first one actually named submachine gun even if not the first submachine gun by type.
@leoarc1061
Ай бұрын
Every video of this series is filled with biased or otherwise incorrect BS. I couldn't watch much of it in one go either.
I love the greaser
Sten woulda been nice too. Or the type 100. Glad to see mp40. Deadliest one has to be the MP7 though. She’s beautiful
For the grease gun being the cheapest gun it’s very expensive to purchase these days. I think last time I saw one in person for sale it was 3000$(which was 14 years ago) Also taping another magazine to a gun makes much more sense if they pointed opposite each other so you don’t fiddle around looking for the top of the other magazine.
The nice sub machingun thommson
When my engineer battalion was visiting Ft. Bliss in 1985 I saw an M60 tanker with a grease gun . He commented it was not very accurate
@davidstrother496
Ай бұрын
I used one for many years as an M60 tank crewman. They are just as accurate as any other submachine gun, and quite easy to control. No submachine gun is really going to do much more than hit a human size target at around 50 yds.
@mrjockt
Ай бұрын
Tank crews were still carrying the M3 during the Gulf War in 1991.
@DefunctYompelvert
Ай бұрын
It was in service from 1942-1992. The official replacement was the M4 which didn't come around until 1994 so tankers had to use M16s. National Guard in some cases had them as late as 2008. Even some regular army had them after 2000.
@mrjockt
Ай бұрын
@@DefunctYompelvert I was actually very surprised when I saw tank crews carrying them at Dhahran back in ‘90/‘91, never realised they still had them in service.
@DSS-jj2cw
Ай бұрын
@@DefunctYompelvert wow! I did not realize they were in service so long!
M3 is based on the Sten design. Only the magazine position is the same as the mp38/40
My best friend was a Palestinian radio dj in Miami in 1980 he was killed at a disco in our old Neighborhood. By a tvstar with an uzi . This episode hit home
39:19 MP7 shooting the door.... That's not a 100 yrds. More like 30-50 yrds Love the grease gun and micro uzi though.
We're having a conversation about submachine guns, but we're not going to mention the STEN??? Come on, now.
I was waiting for the Skorpion but it was a no show.
36:37 You can see an ordinary gun, out of the briefcase, firing in the very bottom left of screen as well as ejected cases. Oops ...
@k7j007
21 күн бұрын
Lol your right. I did not see or notice that. Good eye
No mention of the Sten.
🇺🇸
Beretta 38 Mochetto.
33:03 This is dumb. The MP5SD doesn't change the velocity of the projectile. Certainly not to this extent without loading different cartridges.
How did the Japanese miss on making SMGs on large scale for their troops during WW2
The suppressor does not in fact slow down the bullet! Is he sure he's army ranger? A suppressor suppresses the sound or gas. The ammunition has to be subsonic in order for it not to break the sound barrier.
One thing they should've gone over is why drum magazines are not practical. Heavy, bulky, not very reliable, time-consuming to load, and they rattle when on the move. Hence why militaries don't use them.
Bro isn’t that Tim Kennedy
The 30 caliber BAR was a brute it could go through walls so yeah BAR!
A Mac 10 but slower down the rpm
Hey it's Whiskey Whiskey!
.45 acp with 9" drop at 200 yards... must be some that .45+p+ super powder 😂
They are showing the best, sorry if it hurts your feelings
You also need to say that the Tompson fires from an open bolt.
Did Wil Willis met R. Lee Ermey?
🤣the swagger walk and bleach white teeth of a true hero.
Well, look who got some zoom whitening after forged in fire
Mp 5 top tier h&k owns it!
My uncle was a gunner on a tank destroyer, used a grease gun and swore by it.
Was the Thomson the first sub mg .... cue endless waffle to avoid saying no.
0:25 compact, concealable firearms... Wait, what? The subgun the host is firing is about as concealable as a full size battle rifle, esp with the drum mag. Are we trying to make banning them easier or something?
Thompson is heavy and doesn't have long range, but it is reliable and rugged
@andrewholdaway813
Ай бұрын
Over engineered over weight over priced
The Thompson was not what started it all. German infantry were using the MP18 at the end of WW1. (The guest acknowledge this much)
45:46 Royal Enfield
MP7, but not the superior P90?
Is this the guy from Forged in Fire?
@Michael-sl9vi
Ай бұрын
Yep it is
Bro, you got .45 acp and taking down aluminum can and gave the guy who had 9mm 750ml glass bottles. How is that fair in the slightest?
I'd use Tommy Gun over the MP-40. More powerful and higher rate of fire. Tommy Gun is an effective and fearsome weapon.
@CrossOfBayonne
Ай бұрын
Same, My friend August carried one in the 7th Army 1944-1945 as Sgt
@podsmpsg1
Ай бұрын
@@CrossOfBayonne Wow. Nice.
Royal enfieldis a motor cycle