Robert was a fool. There, I said it. He had little business acumen, no financial sense, was attracted to "get rich quick" schemes, ignorant of the changing times. He bankrupted the estate and would have done it again if Matthew and Mary hadn't insisted on stepping in.

@kerriethompson2073

2 жыл бұрын

Robert had a heart of gold, but he was a terrible business man and kind of a snob. If he didn't let his prejudice of prestige and titles get in the way Sybill might be still alive.

@tanyasoto1346

2 жыл бұрын

Robert was raised and educated the old way. Thanks to Matthew and his money and new ideas helped.

@kerriethompson2073

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanyasoto1346 yes it did, but he did fight with Mathew in the beginning with the changes.

@debbiemcpherson2426

2 жыл бұрын

Robert tries to get Matthew to invest in a Ponzi scheme at one point! He can get so emotional.

@sandraminorwilliamson5373

2 жыл бұрын

Have gun will travel...love this line.

3:32 "Why does everyday involve a fight with an American?" 😂😂😂 Violet always has the best one liners 🤣🤣🤣

@BE-bs8oe

Жыл бұрын

"I'm a good saison :)))"

@duckduckgoismuchbetter

Жыл бұрын

@@BE-bs8oe "sailor"

@marioforbes7187

11 ай бұрын

That line was a dig at Cora. But I love it.

It speaks volumes of Cora's character that her first reaction to hearing most of her fortune is gone was to comfort Robert and assure him they will survive regardless of financial stability.

@Cleptrio

Жыл бұрын

She was always way too good for him.

@rosequartz4102

Жыл бұрын

It does. I can't say I would have behaved the same.

@truthseeking6611

Жыл бұрын

@@rosequartz4102 You would've been in the right to do so,husbands who lose their wives' fortunes are the worst of all losers.

@angelabby2379

Жыл бұрын

probably because she knew she will never be poor! her brother is still insanely rich and unmarried

@pietro_valente

Жыл бұрын

@@angelabby2379 And yet she never asked for a single penny of her brother's fortune.

Matthew and the women of the family (Cora's money, Sybil's love for Tom, Mary's commitment to stick with Matthew's reforms, Violet's wish to make Tom and Mary work together ...) really saved the estate from Robert's stupidity.

@dan_38

2 жыл бұрын

more like robert's naïveté because hes practical and an excellent example of a calm leader, but in terms of management, he's not the best candidate compared to the other members of the family

@debbiemcpherson2426

2 жыл бұрын

@@dan_38 Exactly. During the fire Robert was a great leader. But when it comes to long term financial stability Robert is pretty bad.

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

2 жыл бұрын

@@dan_38 the spelling is *naïveté* but yeah point still stands

@OnLifeandLove

2 жыл бұрын

What does Sybil's love for Tom have to do with the estate

@marielpato

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnLifeandLove he became the agent after she died and helped Mathew implement the necessary changes

I like how the show’s fashion slowly transitioned from the early 1900’s to the fashions and cars of the 1920’s

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

2 жыл бұрын

I mean that's the way in real life: *fashion trends weren't static* (unless one lives in an autocratic dystopian universe)

@angelabby2379

Жыл бұрын

this is exactly why i hate house of dragon.. the fashion went foward instead of backwards.... in game of thrones the fashion is more medieval England, while house of dragon is more tudoresque... of course no one cares because its the new show... but i care! it looks weird and clearly more modern than any of the game of thrones attire

@jazzycat8917

Жыл бұрын

@@angelabby2379 Lol why on earth are you mad that a fantasy set in a fantasy world doesn't adhere to the exact fashion progression of real life? Thats such a ludicrous thing to expect, and even more ludicrous to hate the show for

@angelabby2379

Жыл бұрын

@@jazzycat8917 you are just uneducated! because it ruin the lore! because game of thrones was literally copied from real history!!! educate yourself please. it's idiotic to make the clothes more modern just because it's "newer show" despite it actually went back in time...

@CL-go2ji

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they did that very well.

“Why does every day involve a fight with an American…?” - the Dowager Countess in her battle with a swivel chair (invented by Thomas Jefferson). LOL

from @1:53 "it's is my third parent and my fourth child" is one of my favorite scenes of Robert. Just really sets up his character well with the passion of the estate.

@weepingangel6805

11 ай бұрын

A monkey could devote all his life to managing an estate if he didn’t have to work a job. Then again, a monkey could also dump everything into one investment and watch it go to zero.

Lady G has always underestimated Cora. Another woman, 'who could have easily stepped into her shoes' may have acted quite differently hearing that her inheritance was completely lost in some money scheme.

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

everyone underestimates Cora, who is easily one of the most capable characters in the series. Her thing is kinda being underestimated by everyone, they all believed she brought no assets to Downton accept for her money

He loses her fortune and she says "thank God for you." If it wasn't for her, there would be no Downton.

@marydonohoe8200

2 жыл бұрын

Robert said,”Thank God for you.” And he was right.

@MeMeDaVinci

Жыл бұрын

@@marydonohoe8200 ...she said, "How terrible for you." Right. She still understood but her fortune was lost...

@davy209

10 ай бұрын

To be fair, not all of Cora’s fortune was completely lost in a bad investment. She reassures Mary that the family still have enough money to live comfortably in a much smaller estate, if they sold the house. They wouldn’t be homeless, just downgraded from being apart of the 0.1% class to the 1% class, like Mrs. Crawley. Cora was perfectly fine with downgrading their lifestyle but Robert and Mary couldn’t accept it.

The thing i found interesting was he wasn't afraid to cry in front of her

@harringt100

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think he could help it...

@angelabby2379

Жыл бұрын

lol he trust her more than anyone... of course he wasn't afraid to cry this remind me of Henry VII crying in front of his wife about the death of Prince Arthur which would be King instead of his younger brother the infamous Henry VIII. needless to say Henry VII trust his wife although it was arranged marriage, it turned out to be a powerful love match, I don't remember but I don't think he ever remarry and only have 1 mistress decade after her death

According to this Robert and Cora married in 1888, the estate was in crisis at the time for various reasons. Mainly I suspect was that Lady Violet entered into the marriage with little to no dowry. Robert had a difficult decision when choosing a bride at the time, choose status or wealth? He chose wealth. I dare say his motives we're pressed moreso by his late Papa, rather than his mother. (Which is evident throughout the series.) When Robert and Cora married, she basically signed the equivalent of a prenup agreement. Like so many wealthy American heiresses at the time who only married for title and societal status, the Earl of Grantham needed to secure the future of the estate. Cora's fortune did just that and then some. With the entail in place, her fortune became one with the estate and title. Unfortunately, the law prohibited ladies from inheriting her father's title and ruling the estate. Sadly such rules apply today to many English estates and titles.

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

2 жыл бұрын

Violet being a poor aristocrat was already established canon

@raraavis7782

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p Really? Was that ever mentioned in the series? I can't seem to remember anything like that?

@theeldersaysso5600

2 жыл бұрын

I understand that part, but there is no way I would have gave my daughter's money to a stranger, that would have been part of the terms before the marriage. Grown men sitting around waiting on someone to die in order to get the money and mattew when he told lavana it will all onday be yours. My blood boiled

@m.layfette6249

2 жыл бұрын

@@raraavis7782 It was never mentioned in the series or even the movies, but through fandom and circumstances surrounding the estate it only makes sense. When you start to put 1 + 1 together.

@m.layfette6249

2 жыл бұрын

@@theeldersaysso5600 And that is why we have Prenup agreements today. When the money was lost due to poor investing in Season 3, Lady Grantham (Cora) was well within her right to divorce Robert. If that ended up being the case, the estate would have had to be sold to settle everything. Of course a portion of those profits would be set aside to save her daughter's (All Three-3 of them) inheritance. Cora would definitely have enough to return to America and restart her life all over again. Why do think Robert was in tears when he told her? It wasn't just to pour out his shame and regret, but he was eternally grateful for Cora's nature of "I'm an American, have gun will travel" outlook on the situation. Any other woman would have drug his family through the courts and papers with "a scandal worthy of the name."

"Every ship is unsinkable until it sinks"

@Downton Abbey • This was an excellent retrospective. Some of the scenes I had entirely forgotten until Violet's memorable quip or reaction. For example, asking Matthew to investigate had entirely slipped my mind until Violet's memorable reaction to the swivel chair appeared. And certain scenes were just wonderful to revisit such as Mary telling her mother of Matthew's proposal and her admission she loved him longer than she knew. Likewise, Cora comforting Robert after the loss of the money is another scene the is both heartbreaking yet uplifting. Thank you for thie well-edited clip. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Downtown Abbey was my escape during the lockdown😍

@KD-nk3ht

Жыл бұрын

That an the crack cocains you smoiked?

What I love about Downton is how, from my research, they absolutely could have broken the entail if they wanted. It would have required the current lord and the heir to sign an agreement breaking it, but it could be done. Now, the reason this is usually considered impossible is because what person would sign an agreement renouncing a massive fortune? If my sixth cousin four times removed had an entailed estate that I was set to inherit, I would absolutely keep it and get rich. Ergo, the heir would be unwilling to sign. In the case of Downton, though, I think it was very clear from the beginning that Matthew would have been willing to break the entail if asked. The person who was really against breaking the entail was always Robert. Not because he didn't love his daughters but because he cared more about the future of Downton than them. I just think it is so interesting that in this particular situation, everything is turned on its head and the one unwilling to break the entail is the one whose children are set to lose everything; not the one who is set to inherit.

@michaeltutty1540

Күн бұрын

For starters, separating out the fortune Cora brought would have bankrupted the Estate. A Peer is not allowed to go Bankrupt. Also, the terms of Entail are not standardized, and Cora's father had tied up the money as well. Carefully crafted, the two would have left the Earl with little room to maneuver.

"It is my third parent, and my fourth child"

I miss Downton Abbey. ❤

This show makes me so happy!

Loved this Even through the worst of times you can always count on your family to be there and help you through 🙂

Wow! This compilation video is really well done.

No no, I’m a good sailor😂🇬🇧

magnifique série ! un hit ! la classe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The actress who played Sybil was in an episode of "Black Mirror." It was the one about the dystopia where the poor and powerless have to be on stationary bikes, watching vast amounts of awful and brain-deadening social media while they pedaled the days away. The rich and powerful were social media tycoons who brutally forced the poor to be contestants on this American Idol-like show to do terrible and demeaning things to entertain the masses, but rewarding the contestants with better, more meaningful lives. It was bizarre to see Sybil in this environment. And heartbreaking to see what happened to her in the episode--I was almost in tears. Watch that "Black Mirror" episode titled "15 Million Merits" to see what I mean.

@AlisonBryen

2 жыл бұрын

That was a good episode. Early Black Mirror was great!

@bryana50cents16

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! And harlots!

@lydialedbetter2041

Жыл бұрын

No thank you. At 73 and knowing the gross amount of evil there is in the world, I don't choose to put it in my own face via movies or TV.

Starting at 6:06 and for the rest of that scene, watch the angle of Cora's head and her braid. When the camera is on her face, her head is tilted to her right (starting and 6:25) and the braid is over her right shoulder. But when the camera is on Robert's face and we can only see the back of Cora's head, her head is tilted to her left and the braid is down her back! I remember seeing this continuity goof when this episode first premiered because of how obvious it was, and I've never been able to unsee it.

@respectfulconversation944

Жыл бұрын

I never see such things. You are way more observant than me 😂

@SeanMcGuire92

Жыл бұрын

@@respectfulconversation944 Hahaha, no, I just went to middle and high school for Communication Arts (filming, photography, etc.) and theatre, so I'm *super* aware of continuity errors ever since then. 😅

@st.dominic4169

11 ай бұрын

Because the scenes were shot in several takes and the editor and director had to choose which shots are to be used.

@SeanMcGuire92

11 ай бұрын

@@st.dominic4169 Yes, this is true, but that's what the continuity coordinator/director is for. 😅

@katie7748

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I notice stuff like that all the time. Didn't even need to be taught to look for it.

The last few seconds show a side of Robert worthy of respect: he could be a stickler for stupid rules, but he could also uphold what he belived to to honor with litte thought of his own comfort. (Yeah, I know: sometimes. He who is without sin shall cast the first comment.)

Well done retrospective.

Robert didn't even try to fight for Mary, he was a closed book right away. He was a good man and husband but really wasn't a good manager of the estate.

Robert is my least favorite character. Especially during the first few seasons, he was stuck up & refused to adapt changes. Cheated on cora & then had the audacity to get mad at her when that painter guy tried to force himself on her.

Love it.

It was all so unfair. Mary and Mathew could have been so happy.

@gisawslonim9716

2 жыл бұрын

And all because the actor playing Mathew had a previous contract for another series so to explain his disappearance from this one he had to be killed off. And, as luck woud have it, this is the one that turned into a hit and the other one was never heard of again.

@here_we_go_again2571

4 ай бұрын

Life is not fair.

@patriciajrs46

4 ай бұрын

@@here_we_go_again2571 I am well aware of that.

Ohhhh sybil 😭😭😭😭😭😭

"Another modern brainwave? . . . Why does every day involve a fight with an American...?"

Was Cora a dollar princess?

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

2 жыл бұрын

the appropriate term is _nouveau riche_ like some Americans of the Gilded Age at the time

@stephaniediasz4248

2 жыл бұрын

Yup

@neconeconeco

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p dollar princess was slang at the time to refer specifically to wealthy heiresses of the nouveau riche who came to Europe to marry high-status bachelors

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

Жыл бұрын

@@neconeconeco thanks I didn't know it was an actual term so "dollar princess" is basically, in modern context, a richer version of a literal social climber?

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p yes, specifically one who uses their money to climb.

Crawley estate saved by American $ figures

@sarahjames927

2 жыл бұрын

That’s history … lol

Robert was a real wanker. Cora didn't deserve him.

Still very nice...

He Dowager rules

Downton, itself, appears to be a god.

@here_we_go_again2571

4 ай бұрын

Anything that comes between a person and his/her worship, respect and submission to the Eternal One is a "god" to that person.

If you really think about it. Robert really is thebad guy

@here_we_go_again2571

4 ай бұрын

I don't think he is bad. He loves his wife and children, he tries to be fair in his business dealings and he treats his mother with respect (as a son should do) What do you want from the guy?

🙂 💚

2:20 why are they all in black? Did someone die ?

@eliu868

Жыл бұрын

Mary and the sisters' cousin and Robert's heir, Patrick.

@danw1030

Жыл бұрын

On the Titanic

i wanted cora to be pissed that he lost all her money she was like unrealistically okay with it because “aMeRiCaN”

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

not because she's an American, but because that's just who she is. She realizes that being angry and upset will do nothing productive. It's the same as when she managed to pull herself together and carry Pamuk to his bedroom. Or when she finds out about Edith, yes she is mad at Rosamund and Violet but also quickly and decisively creates a plan and carries it out to resolve the situation. Cora is one of the best characters at responding to disaster in a productive way. What would freaking out and yelling at a crying Robert accomplish?

@starshinedragonsong3045

Жыл бұрын

​​@@simonrooney2272 agreed. Exploding would not have been in character for her. That just not how she dealt with things. And, maybe because I'm an American (for better and worse), I think I get what she's saying. It's actually a very nuanced line that says so much about her and how SHE views her Americanism and how carried her through all the changes in her life.

@lseward21

Жыл бұрын

She was also aware that he married her for her money - but - more importantly - that they did, in fact, fall in love and have a good marriage, something that money couldn’t buy. And, after all, they wouldn’t end up homeless; they just wouldn’t have the grand house w all the land.

Are those barnacles on the dowagers hat?

@jerrycoleman6429

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Melissa how are you doing and how’s the weather over there? I was going through comments when I came across your post.. I would love to be a friend, I tried sending you a request it didn’t go through, would be nice if you can add me up instead i hope you don’t mind.

😅

I didn’t care for Robert.

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

He was foolish, hypocritical, stubborn and unreasonable, but there were certainly instances when you could tell he was a good man beneath all that, like when he saved Thomas from arrest. He has incredible character growth, and I love a character with great growth. Besides Thomas and Edith he debatably changes the most throughout the series.

After 24 years of marriage guys feel ashamed of choosing his women at first place! We are like pieces of cake decorating over a fine limiting boundary on a plate, can be picked by same species whenever they want!

@Cleptrio

Жыл бұрын

He was ashamed that he courted her because she was rich and he wanted her money, and now that he’s older and they’ve been married so long he values her as a person and is ashamed that he didn’t care about her at all in the beginning. He’s not saying he wishes he’d chosen differently, he’s saying he wishes he’d chosen her for a worthy reason, because she deserved better.

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

@@Cleptrio This. Also, British aristocrats hate to talk about money and the men have a lot of pride, so he was also somewhat ashamed that he was pretty much made himself a gold-digger

@MsJubjubbird

Жыл бұрын

@@simonrooney2272 yup. She was a dollar princess. There were a lot of aristocrats that were finding their finances were not as grand as they used to be- with old homes to maintain and bring up to standard, tenant farmers moving to the city for work and no longer paying rent and the cost of living generally rising. Unless you could So they married rich American girls who were the daughters of rich merchants and often had dowries far bigger than many girls born into the aristocracy.

Downtown Abbey as a series was great. However, I am very disappointed in the films. 😞

@davidknowles3459

2 жыл бұрын

The first film was not very good,but the new one is much better!

@carolmiller5844

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I thought they were knock-off scripts to fill the popularity. Sad really.

@simonrooney2272

Жыл бұрын

same. they are like terrible DA fan fictions

Robert reminds me of the Democrats and the Republicans. They put this country in the sad indebted state we are in; classic Establishment.