There seems to be some confusion on why there is a large gap in the Steinberger and Wal bass era. These games in which the multi tracks are taken from never added them. Therefore I can only upload what these games have provided. Hope this clears things up. Side note, Hemispheres may have been recorded with the Ashly’s, I’m not too sure.

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah really....lol

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

Skipped 1984, and went to 2011.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@joedecker8096 I guess they wanted to appeal these games to the basic rush fans. In my opinion, some of their most interesting stuff is from 1984-2007.

@colinburroughs9871

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 that's a weird take. I like GuP and Power Windows (probably more than most, without getting weird too). But their most interesting stuff was clearly written when they were eager 20 somethings with a bit of THC in the system. It's of it's time, but frankly as we move along here and see more and more of the digital age and what it does for music, I can safely say at least for me, having grown up with modern Rush being contemporary, tunes like Carve Away the Stone or something like that isn't The Trees.

@ObsidianLife

2 жыл бұрын

@Kevin Sheppard HARD AGREE! Moving Pictures Signals Grace Under Pressure That was an amazing period of perfect technical writing with catchy songs. Such an amazing time….

Geddy stated in an interview: “I hit the bass so damn hard that you can hear the frets whack and the string hitting the pickup. I’m a bit of an animal!”

@Isen_hart

8 ай бұрын

i don't hear the microphonic noise of string hitting the pickup.

@cliffords2315

Ай бұрын

thats how you do it, if you dont break bass strings eventualy you arent doing it right

An important lesson here is how a lot of those bass tones really don't sound that great when solo, but they sit in the perfect place in the mix. I've worked with far too many musicians who have amazing sounds when solo but just disappear or muddy everything up when everyone else joins in. The best sound for the track is usually not one that's the nicest to hear by itself.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

100%. I’ve recorded the nicest bass tones but it gets completely lost when I’m trying to compete over quadruple tracked guitars with a big muff fuzz overdrive on them lol! Sometimes you need those “rancid” qualities to be heard in the mix.

@SatanachiaVGS

Жыл бұрын

So true

@stkittsdave1

Жыл бұрын

Snare drum tuning falls in line with this notion as well

@TheSteelDialga

Жыл бұрын

Does this take into account eqing and frequency cancellation like Pierre mentioned?

@jonathanthomasjohn8348

10 ай бұрын

Listen to the isolated vs mixed bass on soundgarden’s burden in my hand, same thing shows

This really goes to show how 90% of his tone actually came from his right hand technique rather than his gear.

@IAmInfinitus208

2 жыл бұрын

Much like John Entwistle before him, he really scratched/digged through those strings like there's no tomorrow!

@milocabral7428

2 жыл бұрын

I learned that the longer I played bass. I initially bought so much stuff I didn’t need before sitting down and really analyzing my technique. And now that excess stuff is sold and I’m happy with a sansamp Rick and a solid jazz that give me all the tone and playability I need but with much better playing.

@keithkelly5692

2 жыл бұрын

Technique and setup (action/relief, string and pickup height, choice of string gauge and tension, etc). He clearly prefers low action that results in a noticeable "clack" of the string agains the frets and/or pickups on most of his finger plucks. It makes the overall tone dirtier and more midrangey.

@TrevWings

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree with this. The gear makes a huge difference imo. Him playing a pbass sounds distinctly different from him playing a rick, which sounds distinctly different from him playing his jazz, and within playing the same bass, the amp he's playing through drastically changes how the same bass sounds. If you played with the same gear and attacked the strings as hard as him, you'd sound almost identical.

@RushFanatic87

2 жыл бұрын

My dad and brother (both bassists) gave me such hell because my right hand was so heavy early on thanks to learning to play like Geddy from Rush in Rio. When I showed them isolated tracks from Chris Squire and Geddy, they were like “I’ll never criticize anyone’s right hand technique ever again.” 😂

I absolutely love his early 80s tone. Truly a one of a kind artist

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

70’s tone isn’t too shabby either

@spaghetti_o_yeah9550

2 жыл бұрын

@@joedecker8096 They're both great. I do prefer the more aggressive sound of the 80s though

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds more real and pure in the early years, less distortion. The 70’s era.

@SirArii

8 ай бұрын

​​@@spaghetti_o_yeah9550The best albums was when he was playing his Black and gold inlay Wal mk1, It was first in Power Windows (82 or 84, i dont remember at the top of my head) and ended in Roll The Bones. Best albums they ever made because his right hand technique mixed with the raw power of the Wal is to die for.

Geddy's early tone is always what I'm chasing from my bass. I love it soo much.

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

It has more to do with the sound engineer than it does with anything Geddy Lee is doing

@fcamiola

Жыл бұрын

​@@gianthills What?

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

@@fcamiola plus his tone never stayed the same.

Heavy growl with a ton of punch...really stood out and was a huge influence to so many players.

Very interesting as Geddy live plays with such attack, but his right hand early on had a light touch. Thanks for posting this!

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@EliAlexanderClark

2 жыл бұрын

When you lightly slap the strings with your fingers you get a wonderful sound

@jackthurman2642

2 жыл бұрын

That's typically how playing live vs recording works

@TheSteelDialga

Жыл бұрын

@@matt.the.lesser My theory is that because he learnt so many Chris Squire basslines (which were played with a pick), he ended up recreating that sound with his just fingers.

The YYZ pedal was a good buy I like it. They did a good job trying to recreate his tone in a little pedal

@IAmInfinitus208

2 жыл бұрын

The added features on the MP-40 (tight, shape-shifter, bypass) really add alot to an already great pedal!

@CYTVim

2 жыл бұрын

Same - I am enjoying that pedal alot. It is great to get a Rush flavor. It gives presence, over-drive and that indescribable glow that you hear on exit stage left or moving pictures.

I don't even play bass, he made want a Rickenbacker. What a tone and a playing

I like how his style progressed to a flamenco picking style, digging in more aggressively for ballsier sound through his Fender Jazz. 💪♥️

No wonder Neil Peart could lay down such incredible drum parts for rush. I mean listen to the bass tracks that Neil had to work with so spoiled. I mean absolutely genius. We're talkin Chris squire and John Entwistle genius. Imagine having that kind of thick rich-bass sound( to work with. Absolutely uncanny! How could you not come up with brilliant drum tracks and be on top of your game if you had that kind of bass sound backing you up. This Reminds me of another incredible Rhythm tandem John wetton and Bill bruford from King Crimson. It was sheer Genius absolute one-of-a-kind sound that they produced like Neil and Geddy. Or Chris Squire and Alan White! Being able to be a drummer in a band with any one of those brilliant bassists is an absolute one-of-a-kind experience. How can you not be a driving force in a band with that brilliant bass tone backing your drumming. Another tandem that doesn't go back as far but are just as brilliant and that's Les Claypool and Tim Alexander of Primus. I mean what?.........come on! Matter of fact I just saw Primus do the rush tribute show farewell to Kings the whole album I mean any band that can do that to absolute perfection our badass musicians and those three dudes in Primus( Larry Les and Tim) are as good as you get. It's easily top 3 show of all time it was better than the tools show I saw recently. My second favorite show is Faith No More at Tipitina's during King for a Day, fool for a lifetime and my number one show of all time is rush and Primus at UNO Lakefront Arena 1992. During roll the bones and sailing the Seas of cheese. On two hits of red rose acid. I guess my runner-up would be the tool show at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans the most recent one. They play their back in 2016 or 17 that was an amazing show but the 2022 show was brilliant they absolutely outperform themselves. Bravo 👏 👏, encore encore.

@keith1r

2 жыл бұрын

I think his playing got better working with Neil. I think if John was still the drummer he would not even be talked about as a great bass player

@CrimsonKarl

2 жыл бұрын

I've always said that that the Lee-Peart rhythm section was the best in rock, bar none..

@keith1r

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrimsonKarl not better than Bonham/Jones and Funk brothers. Those guys improvised. Neil and Geddy wrote their parts out and played it the same all the time

@ReeseChown

Жыл бұрын

Every instrument had room to breathe, they were constantly in competition with each other without the parts overlapping or beating each other out in terms of velocity. Pure pocket. I am no hardcore Rush fan, but what fantastic musicians they are.

I am in awe of the way he can play his intricate bass lines and sing perfectly at the same time! And let's not forget his keyboard wizardry too! Singer, songwriter, bassist, pedalist, keyboardist, and a master of all of them! Truly, one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century! And he never got by on his looks or dance moves! Just fantastic music he made with two buddies and an army of techies!

@JamesBrown-uh4mw

2 жыл бұрын

have u heard of primus lad

@commiecrusher

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesBrown-uh4mw uh...what does that have to do with anything? Or are you saying without Geddys genius Les would have never been Les?

@JamesBrown-uh4mw

Жыл бұрын

@@commiecrusher im not here to argue weirdo i was just saying primus has parallels and could be a good listen for him cause les claypool. not everybody is sarcastic and passive aggressive

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

Most of what he plays goings along in unison with his singing and he simplifies parts for live performances.

@2112jonr

Жыл бұрын

All three are incredibly talented musicians. But Geddy's proficiency at bass and multi-instrumental skills just blow me away as a non-musician. He could be that talented, know it, and a complete arse, yet every single interview I've seen with him, he's always seemed like one of the most genuinely warm and down to earth people.

I love the Rickenbacher 4001! Such a distinct nasaly, trebley sound... 👃

@Apprentice_of_the_Leonine

Жыл бұрын

I've got a 4003 and it makes those amazing gnarly noises, but with lots more growl and oomph because the pickups are wound a good bit hotter these days. Somewhere around 11 or 12k DCR vs. the old ones being about 7 or 8k. Also, the old 4001's had a hi-pass filter cap wired in series with the rear pickup, which is still there now in the 4003, albeit rigged to a push/pull knob that activates or kills it. For me at least, there's no finer 4-stringed piece of rock n' roll furniture on Earth.

Shit did this guy ever get better or what! Exponential growth in tone, technique and musicality. St. Geddy……bring on the next solo album!!

And he's been using Sansamp for over 20 years now. He has some signature Sansamp gear that has come out in the last couple years that can really get you a great variety of these tones.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I have the DI-2112 and it does a great job indeed!

He really went with a clearer, more organic sound around the time of Clockwork Angels. Just imagine that tone on something really bass-heavy like Freewill or, hell, any song off Hemispheres.

Wow you can really hear how aggressively he is hitting the strings with his fingers

@hubbsllc

2 жыл бұрын

A few years ago I was in a Guitar Center and some kid was trying to play Rush on a bass. I walked over and said to him, do not underestimate just how hard Geddy hits with his right hand. I had him hold down the C on the A string - tightly, I told him - reached down, gave it a Geddy-style whack and boom, there was the sound coming out of the amp. I showed him how Geddy used to play with his wrist bent more so that the centerline of his hand was more at a right angle to the strings and that later he was playing with his wrist straighter and his hand was more at an angle.

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

That's not Geddy playing

@RH-xs8gz

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. He’s whacking the hell out of those strings

@joedecker8096

2 жыл бұрын

He always did

@carpediemarts705

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as Lee bought a Ric and discovered he didn't sound like Squire, he realized he had to develop his tone with his hands.

His wonderful sense of melody 💙

I'd kill to have the Clockwork Angels tone. So crunchy yet clean!

@RushFanatic87

5 ай бұрын

I’ve fiddled with a Tech-21 DI and gotten very close. Obviously, the majority of that tone comes from the way you play, but it’s incredibly close to that Snakes & Arrows/Clockwork Angels tone.

That Rickenbacker bass sounds soooo good

One of the amazing things about Rush was that each of their parts meshed perfectly more so than some bands. Each of them were masters of their interests. Geddy Lee is one of the greatest bassists of all time because he set the blueprint for the bass as a lead instrument.

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

he didnt set the blueprint

The real power of this video is solidifying Geddy's spot as the #1 rock bass player of all time.

@intercommerce

2 жыл бұрын

Which he clearly is...

@aidanfogleman2060

Жыл бұрын

Forget "rock" bass, just bass in general IMO

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

lol.. no

@chrischoir3594

Жыл бұрын

@@gianthills so who is number #1 ?

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

@@chrischoir3594 Jaco Patsorius, Chris squire, many more

Unspeakable talent and relentless pursuit of musical excellence

I guess my favorite tone is the Ric/Jazz and Ashley SC-40. Freewill, Red Barchetta tones.

Geddy is my King of the Bass, and when I was actively playing? "Moving Pictures" was a huge inspiration for me. He always has something interesting happening on the bass front underneath his vocal and his bass always sounds great. Thank you for sharing this, sir!

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

A video I didn’t realize I needed! Thank you, Sir.

Now this is cool! Great work Kevin.

Awesome, Geddy is the reason I started playing bass 🤘🏻💯

Wow... great analysis. He had a really good tone right from the start...

Great compilation. Thank you.

Those Ric 4080 double neck guitar/bass are absolutely legendary! One just sold near me for 16k 😍

Coolest video I've watched in a long time . . . thank you.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video! Deserves more views.

AWESOME!!!! Video, thanks for posting this.

@kevinsheppard2312

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Interesting the difference between the Fly By Night era and 2112 - both Sunn/Ampeg being used and FBN sounds huge with big bottom while pretty well defined. The 2112 stuff sounds a bit thin and nasal-like when isolated. The important thing is they all sound good in relation to the mix.

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. His early tones seemed to lean more towards the Rickenbacker neck pickup which had that particular quality.

❤ your channel/user icon. Counterparts remains a favorite! I've shared this many times in my Rush videos.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 ай бұрын

Happy you appreciate it:)

Always with that high-end bite....Great tone as always!

He always used stereo Bass tones. Dirty and clean, with a Lot of punch.

FASCINATING .....Geddy always had lovely bass tone but you could tell in the changes over time he was always trying to get a new better sound he wanted in his head.

A very enjoyable video!

This is great idea! Nice work.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

just got an ashly sc-40 and god it has the sound ive been searching for years for

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the club! I recently bought an original blue face and a 3rd gen blackface SC-40. They will serve you very well.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

If you are interested, myself and a friends on Talkbass.com often talk about our SC-40s and we could create a club where we could discuss our tones etc.

Thank you for the video. I wish there was more of the different sounds of the albums but considering what we have I have to go with Ashly then closely followed by Sunn/Ampeg. I almost want to say Sunn first but then his bass playing gets better and it makes me lean more toward the Ashly sound. Also there are factors such as the bass he's playing and effects.

Oh what a treasure trove here. As noted you can hear how low his action is and how hard he hits. I have to say my favorite is Tom Sawyer because there’s a healthy bottom end that they kept in his sound. Was curious to hear the Wal, Big Money in particular, for comparison. Thanks for this. Pure joy.

@IAmInfinitus208

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember, someone around YT mentioned Geddy kept the Ricky at a somewhat high action at the time (I know Chris Squire did, though Geddy might have kept it low like you said? He did keep it low on his Jazz!) given the Rick's infamous disability to adjust the bridge saddles and you had to file down the nut if you want to the desired height according to the CEO of Ric. Unless you swap it for an adjustable one like the Badass bridge, though why Rickenbacker finally decided to release one with saddle adjustment by 2021 after decades is just baffling given they're late to the party.

@ibassnote

2 жыл бұрын

@@IAmInfinitus208 I just hear a lot of string chattering which would indicate very low action:)

@Sheehy223

2 ай бұрын

​@@IAmInfinitus208That is 100% bullshit, you can get a very low action with a completely stock 70's 4001 but all of Geddys had Badass bridges installed. Both of my 4001's have the stock bridges and both play better than most of the Fenders I've owned.

Myself have played and heard lots of amps over the years, but my favorite has been the sunn 200 s. They used similar circuitry as the dynaco stereo tube amps of the time. Also wanted to share a story where my Brother and I snuck into the arena early at a Rush concert and were supprised at stage right (Geddys side) was a stack of Orange amps. Then we were chased out 😁

Every time I hear that camera eye bass line the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

That’s pure Rickenbacker and Ashly SC-40 + Ged!

@Bawookles

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 Yeah, I've read that The Camera Eye was recorded on Ric instead of Jazz and hearing that isolated bass clinched it.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bawookles totally agree. At that point (hemispheres-signals) he really targeted 2000-3000Hz for a mid range boost on the bridge pickup. Coupled with the distortion the preamp provides, thats the bulk of the tone. Compression is always nice.

@Bawookles

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 Oh, really? He boosted at 2-3K? I thought he boosted around 1K. Good to know, thanks.

@maximilianodelrio

2 жыл бұрын

Same with Tom Sawyer, when the solo kicks off

Amazing video...cheers

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

When I saw the R30 tour, the vending machines and clothes dryers gave a great tone.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I tried to Find the Maytag sansamp but they were out of my price range. Besides, I would rather own the Tech-21 Rotisserie Chicken unit.

@carpediemarts705

2 жыл бұрын

With the bleach, everything was bright. With the driers, nothing was flat.

@joelclark9944

9 ай бұрын

Accept Mama Cass oh I thought you said fat sorry

I was just going to say Vital Signs has amazing bass flow. Some of the baddest bass playing you will ever hear .....with Eraserhead looking over it all

@joshdrilingas718

2 жыл бұрын

best tone in the video

I'm a bass player good stuff I'm playing with a band called Jeteye we play Rush and Montose and Iron Maiden and black sabbath 😮

The P-bass was a really interesting show of duality in geddy's sound

Geddy at his best.sing,bass,keyboard= f n genuis

Best sound he ever had was with the Wal basses.

@DrKFC69

Жыл бұрын

I just wish someone would hurry up and try to find samples for the rest of the 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s. I wanna hear that Wal tone so bad.

@Sheehy223

Жыл бұрын

@@DrKFC69 There's some documentary where Alex plays some of the isolated bass track from The Big Money and then exclaims "It's not bad". It's a shame that Geddy just shoved his Wal's into a corner never to be spoken of again, Power Windows is arguably the absolute peak of his playing. I'm a Jazz bass fanatic too but come on Geddy, using a different vintage Fender Jazz for every song isn't tonal variety 😂

@duffer19

Жыл бұрын

@@Sheehy223 agreed, totally 👍

Loved this!👍🏼 and subbed!

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Never realized he used Sunn, but considering they were built close to home and were bulletproof and sounded good. Wish it was known or labeled which of the 2 rice went to which amp.

@cary3428

2 жыл бұрын

Close to home? Tualatin, Oregon?

as a die-hard Ged fan, it''s nice to know that his basses buzzes just like mine :D

@harveysmusicschoollizaman2290

2 жыл бұрын

But every note buzzes the same way, that's the key to his sound. I don't think there's a bass player who digs in harder than he does and gets a sound out of it.

@terrymiller111

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveysmusicschoollizaman2290 Everybody who does it gets a sound out of it, just 99.9% of them are unusable. :-/

@YouTube_User-9

2 жыл бұрын

Put a little drive on that buzz and you'll get the tone your looking for.

I would kill for that last pedal board with he AxeFX in it

This is definitely a fun video for a Geddy Lee fanatic such as myself! Where did you happen to find most of these photos? I've never seen such a fantastic view of Geddy's portion of the backline!

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Like you, I’m a Rush fanatic so I’ve collected lots of great pictures from websites like Pinterest and Cygnus X-1.net. A lot I took from the toor books and 40th bundles. Some were taken by a technician who worked at Le studio named Roger Ginsley. His website is Tekxelectronics.net

@ricknelson5621

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 thank you so much! I love geeking out over what gear is used when, Ged’s definitely a bass player that’s connected to me in nearly every regard of his goals as a bassist, and his gear is fun to research!

1:37 the black Rick in between the blue bass and the double neck Rick is one I've never, EVER seen before. Judging by the fretboard, it looks like it's fretless. Wow!

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

You are right! In his book he said he used it on Madrigal. I also thing he used it on Different Strings.

@Thompsongs

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 that's the first I've ever seen it. Excellent photo collection in this video. My brain is exploding.

@Thompsongs

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 for Different Strings, didn't he use the 4002? (in the same photo)

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thompsongs not sure! I feel like I can hear qualities of a fretless bass when he slides up and down the neck.

I got into Rush in the 80s when he was playing the Rick and then the Steinberger…it’s weird because I rarely see pics of him with it nowadays

Damn Geddy could make a bass sound good eh?!! Geddy and Steve Harris were always my favourite and always will be

his tone is somewhat consistent in this video regarding how "heavy" he always sounded, being in a power trio. You can really tell how he bangs on those strings like john entwistle. I think that the most he deviated from this sound was during the 80's, where he went for a middle rangy, pointy, angular sound with the headless basses and such... starting from power windows until his return to the heavy bottom end in counterparts. They went with the sound of the decade, it is a more sophisticated bass sound.... songs like "where's my thing", "primer mover", "the big money", you can exactly listen to the kind of sound I'm referring to.

@digitaldesigner5284

2 жыл бұрын

Power windows if I'm not mistaken he used a Wal bass, English lutierie.

@owenandrew8108

2 жыл бұрын

what's interesting is that even though everybody thinks entwistle was a heavy hitter, he actually didnt play all that hard. to get his "typewriter" technique to work well, he had his action set very low so he could get an aggressive sound with a fairly light touch. he relied a lot on his amps and the strings clanging against the neck to get his tone

Thank the rock gods for these guys

Nice -- Only missing the two best!

I actually really like the P-bass tone. Not at all what we've come to associate Geddy with, but still... 😀

2:38 they had a Tradescantia plant in their studio!? One more reason to love RUSH

@kevinsheppard2312

11 ай бұрын

Lmao! Love attention to detail.

all that endless variation of gear over the decades and it still just sounds like geddy, like he needn't have bothered

The man is a beast!

I use a Rick from mid 70s and 70s Sunn Amp and cab. The sound is very close to their first and second albums.

@kevinsheppard2312

10 ай бұрын

Love that setup!

Wish his Wal basses had some isolation. Those sounded amazing on the albums they were featured on.

@kevinsheppard2312

5 ай бұрын

Agree, it's a shame.

definitely the biggest fan of clockwork angels bass tone, that's what I model mine after. But there are so many of the ric tones that I absolutely love, maybe Camera Eye is my favorite

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Totally agree.

The growing promence of the Fender jazz is easy to tell. Its sound has a nice warm fat pop. Easily the best work was on that bass.

I might play the guitar parts to it, I call it, "Jammin' with Geddy."

The BGW Poweramps with those Ashley’s was a great example of Geddy’s most recognizable sound. I thought someone said he had a BGW setup with an Alembic F-2B for a while? Either way great video

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never heard or seen anything about the Alembic F-2B. Probably a misinterpretation of the Ashly. I agree about the tone!

@theirritatedirishman5440

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 : There’s something about certain solid state setups with bass that just sounds great! That really blew me away! I’ve always dug the really old Acoustic Corp heads and some of those super old black/silver Peavey heads. Great videos brother

@joelclark9944

9 ай бұрын

None of you guys are ever going to get Getty Lee's sound because you're not Gary Lee or Gary Lee just be yourself and rock on

@theirritatedirishman5440

9 ай бұрын

@@joelclark9944 : I feel the same way. Same with all these EVH tone chasers through the years. It’s pathetic and a waste of time! None the less these are cool videos.

Relatively the same tone, different basses and adjusting high/ lows, in accordance with each particular songs levels. Bi amped with some overdrive on the high side, and lots of nights with bloody finger tips. Thats Geddy's tone.

Pause at 1:18 That is probably my favorite photo of Rush of all time. Handlebar mustache and doublenecks, playing all out on Xanadu. I saw them in concert on the FTK tour, and twice on Hemispheres. They performed Xanadu each time. Nothing can compare.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Definitely a classic picture.

@joelclark9944

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I like Sinead O'Connor or Chris Cornell

Ashly tone with RK is my favourite.

His sound really took off when he started adding gain to his bridge pickup with the Ashly, kind of makes his earlier tone sound a weak by comparison. He even used a similar technique with his Jazz basses albeit with the pickups in mono, Clockwork Angels had as many as five (allegedly) tracks so he could layer effects and EQ as he liked. I'm usually content with having two.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta agree! I do love the ampeg era but there’s something special about the Ashlys.

@bflo1000

2 жыл бұрын

I thought his tone w the big tube amps was much better than w the Ashley. Plus I think he was playing the J Bass by then.

@Sheehy223

2 жыл бұрын

@@bflo1000 He used both. The Ashly's went into a Sunn tube head for the bridge pickup and an ampeg SVT for the neck pickup. Rackmounts don't replace amplifiers, they're a preamp.

@bflo1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sheehy223 Oh, I see.

@davin6175

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sheehy223 Actually, by the time the Hemispheres tour rolled around and he was using the Ashley preamps, he had ditched tubes alltogether! He went from those EQ/preamps straight to BGW 750B solid state studio power amps. He continues to use those same a power amps and the custom "Thiele" designed 2x15" cabs until the RTB tour! By then it was called the "dinosaur rig" by his roadie.

Geds tone has SO much mids that it really cuts yet still carries i big low end

I remember Gene Simmons Sunn application at the end of the 70s and early 80s and his bass sounded so thick and Rich through those amps Not that that has anything to do with Geddy Lee. But it didn't tell us what Getty used From Grace Under Pressure all the way up through the vapor trails, i mean was he still using Ashley SC 40s? I loved when he use the Steinberger and the wal bass. Justin Chancellor's made those wal bass popular again. I was surprised Geddy went away from that bass. The sound that Rush has live in 81 through 84 to me was their best sound and they were at the peak of their game. I really love the way they sounded on the Grace Under Pressure tour.

@kevinsheppard2312

26 күн бұрын

Hey! My understanding from interviews, tour books and photos is that he ditched the SC-40 after the signals tour. He then started using Furman PQ-3 preamps for GUP and then started adding API EQs through the 80s. He used an SVT for the recording of counterparts and then had a stint with trace Elliot for the supporting tour. Then for Test For Echo, he started using sansamp.

These tones were not necessarily from the amp but direct to the board. Geddy used a combination of mic’d cab with direct signal to the mixing board.

I thought I have also read interviews where Geddy said he used a Furman preamp. He used BGW power amps when he wasn’t using the Sunn heads.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

You are are right. He introduced them on GUP.

Here’s what I think of what bass was used on each moving pictures song: Tom Sawyer, Vital Signs, Limelight, and YYZ = Jazz bass. Witch hunt = Rick with tone rolled off. Red barchetta = unsure but the top end sounds more like a nasally Rick to me. Camera eye = unsure.

@kevinsheppard2312

9 ай бұрын

I agree. Witch hunt is a little hard to tell but Red Barchetta and the Camera eye I would confidently say is the Rick. Compare it to my video where I use the exact same signal chain he used. kzread.info/dash/bejne/en1_mbewYqjWiMo.html

Yeah, the Ashly pres were cool, but The “BGW Power Amps” that they were going into, had ALOT more to do with that Crunch on their Live gigs than you think… (believe me, I had that same set up)

@kevinsheppard2312

8 ай бұрын

Right on! I’ve always been curious of them.

I love the Ricky he played

I know Grace Under Pressure has a lot of keyboards in it but some of Geddysburg baddest baselines are from that album just incredible and Neil's drumming as well. Easily some of my favorite drumming to play by Neil and the stuff off signals. I don't know if mr.lee was actually using a Steinberger in the studio for GUP or if he was still using a Rickenbacker or a Fender Jazz Bass at that point. I don't think he'd started using the Wal bass yet.

@jamesnoble3502

2 жыл бұрын

All of GUP was recorded with the Steinberger

The amps and recording methods also need to be taken into account. In general, he went with a similar sound -- on the bright side with some overdrive. He also has a distinctive touch. I kinda like the sound he got with the P!

@marudebaka6041

2 жыл бұрын

I agree it was a great sound, but it looks like it was a J bass, not a P bass, at least in the picture. I have seen other pics of Geddy playing a J bass. I don't know if he ever played a P.

@NelsonMontana1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@marudebaka6041 Check again. In several of those pictures, he's using a P.

@owenandrew8108

2 жыл бұрын

i can get a pretty good geddy tone with my p bass! the very stout midrange of a p bass compliments that sound very well, especially with some of the more 70s era tones. of course, slamming the hell out of the strings with the might of zeus is vital to get the right attack and grind, but i think the p bass definitely works well for that tone.

@e1028

2 жыл бұрын

The Split P pickups I just got for my P bass have that growly P bass tone. I love it, sometimes more with the tone down

The SC-40 was his best tone by a long shot, imho.

During the segment featuring his Ashly SC-40/The Trees tone, I have a suspicion about why the tone still doesn't have the same wow factor as the PW/MP live tone. I may be wrong, but I wonder whether the difference was in the speaker cabinets. In the The Trees clip, was he still running through his Ampeg V4B cabinets? Because I know later when he used the custom-built cabinets with the JBL speakers, those paired with the Ashly preamps were an unearthly sound.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s just simply the way he EQed it. Look at the videos on my channel where I reproduce them. Notably The trees live and ESL. If my memory serves me correctly, I think he used those ampeg cabs just as monitor cabs for his Rickenbacker neck pickup. After all, the neck pickup ran direct to the PA but he still needs to hear it.

@buckemptier

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 how did you make this video, did you really just EQ the albums, it's very impressive that you can isolate the sound so well, I don't if maybe you have some software that can do that for you or if you did it yourself.

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

@@buckemptier They are actually the original multi tracks! They were taken from games like guitar hero. I downloaded them from Remixpacks.ru

@buckemptier

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 you're kidding! My mind is blown, that's very resourceful of you. Awesome.

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

@@buckemptier I felt the same way! Glad it worked out.

The Ashley sc40 has incredible tone so thick and Rich like Guinness Stout

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison lol!

Tone is in the hands

Early "GEDDY" 🤟🎸🤟

I much preferred his " Rik", with the Ashley SC-40 "days"

@bflo1000

2 жыл бұрын

I always liked the sound of an overdriven Ric also.

most of YYZ and the entirety of limelight was recorded with the 1972 Jazz Bass btw.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. That limelight tone is so compressed and unique I can barley tell which bass it is!

@dominiccrimmings6925

2 жыл бұрын

As was Vital Signs and Tom Sawyer

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominiccrimmings6925 I’m going to release a tone Interpretation if Tom Sawyer and Vital signs with Ashlys soon so look out for that if you are interested.

@davin6175

2 жыл бұрын

YYZ and Tom Sawyer were the Jazz, but Limelight and Red Barchetta were not. They were the Rick.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@davin6175 you are right. I remember him saying Limelight was the Rick. Love that tone.

Such great mids! That tone on Limelight- so fat. I wish more modern bass would be less scooped.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love that tone. There’s definitely some funky stuff happening between 400-800Hz. Experimenting with my Ashly SC-40, Ged seemed to really like to boost 2-3kHz. What bass do you think limelight is? It’s got the fullness of the Jazz but also nothing that the Rick couldn’t do. Plus Ged said that he thought it was the Rick.

@rattan3793

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 Personally I think it's the Jazz bass on Limelight. I know Geddy once said in interview he thought it was the Rick but his memory is pretty shot. It's definitely the Rick on Red Barchetta but I think much of the rest of Moving Pictures is Jazz bass, including all of YYZ. A lot of people including Geddy have forgotten there's Jazz bass on the Permanent Waves album and is actually the first album to feature that bass. Read the July 1980 Guitar Player magazine interview in which Geddy is quoted saying he had just picked up the used Fender Jazz and used it on half the Permanent Waves album. This interview was documented and published before Moving Pictures was made. To my ears and a good set of headphones Spirit of Radio, Entre Nous, and Different Strings are the Jazz bass. The rest are Rickenbacker.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@rattan3793 I actually agree with 100% of what you say. Ive read that interview countless times and I constantly think back to why he never said permanent waves was the first time he used the jazz bass. If you look at the picture I put for limelight in this video, at the corner of the screen you can see the jazz bass! And this is during the permanent wave session. It looks like it’s on the neck pick up. Listen to the video I published a while back with the vocals removed from The Spirit of Radio. If you go to the reggae part, you hear the bass pretty cleanly and it just screams scooped jazz bass mids. In Geddys book, he even said that his memory usually doesn’t serve him well lol.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@rattan3793 and you can hear on tracks like Jacobs ladder, freewill, natural science, there’s an obvious mid presence which is the defining factor of the Rick. But most other tracks on permanent waves fit in a little more subtlety in the mix. In the next week or two, I might Upload a video explaining how to get the Tom Sawyer tone with the jazz bass and Ashley SC-40. For that tone I end up scooping at around 600 Hz. Usually “scooping” and “Geddy” don’t mix in a sentence.

@benthompson9349

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 I'm certain Limelight is the Jazz. It's harder to tell the basses apart on Moving Pictures as Geddy only used the neck pickup on his Jazz, so it doesn't have that distictive hollow twang it gave him later on. On Signals the differences between the Jazz and the Rick are much more noticeable.

1 song from RUSH. 1 song from FBN. 2 songs from 2112. 1 song from AFtK. 2 songs from Hemispheres. 1 song from Perm Waves. EVERY song from Moving Pictures. 1 song from Subdivisions. 1 song from Feedback. 1 song from CA. seems you have a preference!😛

@kevinsheppard2312

10 ай бұрын

Read the title and description:) I can only put out what is available.

For some reason the Passage to Bangkok sound sticks with me. Ive heard that tone.. somewhere.

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

It’s a classic!

I like so many of these but there's just something about The Camera Eye one that I love the most I think. BTW, did you ever get into any boot trading? I wanted to get into that again but all the old Rush sites I knew of are gone now 😞

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

I love the camera eye tone so much. Not sure what you mean by boot trading but I am curious!

@takearushfan

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 I meant trading live recordings. Do you know about the Digital Rush Experience website?

@kevinsheppard2312

Жыл бұрын

@@takearushfan never heard of it! All I remember is rushoddities. You may be able to find it on wayback machine.

@takearushfan

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 I remember those too.

I guess it's not covered in the big hole left between MP and CA, but Geddy switched off the Ashley preamps to API 550 board EQ modules around Signals or GUP. He also used some sort of Furman Parametric EQs in the mid '80's too. Same BGW 750B power amps and 2x15" cabs though.

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I should’ve elaborated in the video why the gap is there. Some people are going absolutely mental on me lol.

@davin6175

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsheppard2312 No I understood. I was just thinking, hey he didn't use those Ashley FOREVER! And then I realized, when I was going to comment that the API didn't come on board until after MP anyway. But other than changing those EQs, the same rig (basses excluded) from '78 to '92! That's a pretty good run! Never blew up those amps...even with venue power outages!

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@davin6175 that’s impressive when you look at it like that!

@Thompsongs

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, I think Geddy switched to the Furman PQ3 parametric EQs, before the GUP tour (maybe for the recording of GUP in the studio, too. I'm not sure).

@kevinsheppard2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thompsongs I know he definitely used them in the studio for grace under pressure. There are pictures on the signals tour with the Ashlys but I don’t know when he switched over to them.