Another big clue for the next challenge run is hidden within the gameplay. Can you guys spot it?

@TegoPvP

Жыл бұрын

What will you give us in return?

@KXRules

Жыл бұрын

A Day Ago?

@TegoPvP

Жыл бұрын

I think it’ll be a TF2 sniper run

@rbrbnd

Жыл бұрын

@@TegoPvP i agree, its totally sniper

@shuffled4527

Жыл бұрын

@@KXRules kknowley releases vids a day early for patreon backers so most likely was unlisted/private then

"guys, the drill go get it" to "guys, the pure gold to the transforming ritual the aliens who influence history, go get it"

I really miss the role playing aspect aswell since it's really fun seeing how a heist can drastically change depending on your setup and skills.

@Adam1602

Жыл бұрын

I always wanted more roleplay options since Payday 2 came out honestly. I'd love for a Mastermind to be able to increase the time between waves by trading prisoners, or have more routes cut off without a technician or ghost to pick locks. A nice mix of linear experiences and sandbox puzzles is what I want, I've felt like a lot of the Linear Era couldn't keep me entertained beyond one or two runs. You've leapt out of one military carrier, you'd leapt out of them all y'know?

@RyanCooperRU

11 ай бұрын

That's why I have multiple builds each with their distinctive specifics and roles, not a fucking shotgun_overkill-crit-dodge-sniper. 4, to be exact. A muscle perk deck build that I call Heavyweight that tanks shit ton of damage that doesn't rely on small aid kits due to regeneration of Muscle and more relies on heavy, hard punching guns, bringing RPG to a bank robbery and more ammo for infinite ammo. Other is Technician that speeds up monotone wait with his saw and has shotguns for self-defence so the team would get maximum payday in short amount of time (but sometimes goes nuts and brings grenade launchers and Predator 12G with Dragon's Breath rounds because folded SPAS-12 with Dragon's Breath is iconic :D). Third one is Crew Chief that buffs team's characteristics with his existence and makes the best out of hostage situation, bringing more elegant sniper rifles for long distance relationships. Because he's Manipulator, as I call him, and manipulators are always behind the chaos. Fourth is a stealthy boy :D

@everythingpony

8 ай бұрын

I mean if everyone has the same skills and perks?

To be entirely honest, the reason we’ve moved so far away from allowing things like C4 and the Saw into builds is mostly because of Death Sentence (or One Down as it was called when that difficulty released) basically forced you to bring Doc Bags. So in turn less and less heists had heavy emphasis on these other tools to accommodate for the fact that everyone and their mother was bringing the necessary meds.

I really like the favors style of preplanning, it gives way more options to tweak how you approach a heist way more than just clicking "buy all assets", but I agree it often leads to just picking the "correct" option. PD3 should absolutely expand on preplanning, make it more dynamic with what favors you get, variety of options, maybe even properly planning out the heist and objective steps instead of always needing to drill into this door to hack the computer to open the other door to hack that computer.

@woblewoble

Жыл бұрын

Random thought days later, maybe a good way to influence heist difficulty in ways other than just increasing numbers, take a page out of old-school games and add additional objectives needed to complete the heist. Normal difficulty, just drill through the safe and get the contents out, Very Hard you need to wait for a timelock before drilling, highest difficulty you need to set up a bigger drill and maintain it. Keeps things dynamic between difficulties, each step up in difficulty is a little more challenging and complex without having to just slam players into a DPS wall.

@ackerman6709

Жыл бұрын

@@woblewoble Yeah, hopefully the higher difficulties wont just be "cops got 1000% more health and damage".

@the8626

Жыл бұрын

what if you were locked out of a certain amount of assets randomly, similar to how it could work in a real life bank robbery? i think that could allow for a system that forces the players to adapt to what the game throws at them.

I love the modern heists. Lost in transit, mountain master, black cat, dragon heist, buluc's mansion, they are amazing on stealth. When I still discover new mechanics after playing them a lot. Like in mountain master you can unlock ladders between the roof and the balcony, or that the guards disappear after the fire alarm. Or the many shortcuts/parkours on lost in transit. Or the 2 entirely different entries in bulucs mansion.

I think a big issue is the addition of higher difficulties. on lower difficulties you can go more towards roleplay since being powerful is unnecessary. on something like death wish, you NEED to be strong

@everythingpony

8 ай бұрын

Not really

Watching this as a console player I'm reminded again of just how much I'll never get to experience

I haven't played PDTH yet but just looking at the heists available you can really tell how they leaned into the Left 4 Dead inspiration in PDTH in regards to their cinematic and monumentous feel.

@pedromiranda1524

Жыл бұрын

The camera movement in the PD3 trailer made me feel exactly like starting a L4D campaign

I really wish the utility aspect of early Payday 2 comes back in PD3. That and the idea of stealth heists drew me into the game in the first place and was something totally unique to the payday series at the time. I think a good was of balancing the way utility is used within heists could be having the saw and more ecms/trip mines be purchasable in the pre-planning menu and show up in-heist, similar to the grenade case. That way Overkill can know when they will be used if at all. Also I think heists should be even more non-linear then they are, and completely agree with how bad the objectives are communicated to the player. Something like FWB where you could hack 2 boxes before getting into the security room. It rewards experienced players and could teach new players what to do early.

I love PD:TH, it will always remind me of an era of gaming that was more focused on quality and replayability. I adore walking around some of the heists and just looking at the level of care that went into making every heist feel like a massive spectacle from start to finish.

A thing that just made heists hit different to me (at least when I started playing) were all the random images in assets, the picture of the Tiara on Ukrainian Job or the 2 plans on Go Bank. Kinda miss these useless but nice details nowadays

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

With you all the way on this. Made it feel like you were going into something with a plan!

@Adam1602

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley I was so hyped for preplanning when it first came out as a dedicated Mastermind/Support build, but I feel like they just couldn't keep the steam with more and more story driven experiences. You really hit it on the head with the Whitehouse comment, the number of times we've hit the field and THEN had to get briefed on the plan, for being such professionals? Just takes me out a bit

@vyeelime8143

Жыл бұрын

@@Adam1602 the Payday gang's real strength is their ability to improvise! (and, their ability to field weapons prohibited by the Geneva Convention - Bain is basically Saddam Hussein with armor gating.)

@YourLocalYter

Жыл бұрын

@@vyeelime8143 He's also dead, 1 similarity

@thewhistler6537

Жыл бұрын

​@@YourLocalYter All that heisting and you're still too poor to pay attention.... Bains soul in in the presidents body. Bain is the president of the US now.

as someone who has been playing forever I really miss the reasons to bring utility. Yea you could speedrun some heists if you were good and brought c4 but that made it fun to plan with your team. It is so rare in modern payday that you disscus what you are gonna do as everyone just brings their build and solos their way through. at most you check that one player has drill skills I mean some of my favourite moments is my friend bringing c4 and me sentries and locking down day 2 of hoxton breakout, A way of playing you can't really do in a lot of maps

I would find welcoming that instead of black screen narration before heist in PD2 was actually a cutscene (that you can skip) but the cinematic event would happen during that and then it will throw you into the heist itself

@g4rpl3i

Жыл бұрын

@@Nothingforever192 Not just convo but something like Transport heist are, actually seeing the trucks crash

A section of this video reminds me that I always wished that the Armored Transport heists didn't start with them already stopped, instead beginning like Slaughterhouse where you take control of the crew and stop them yourselves (perhaps even taking the amount of loot you get into your own hands, meaning that you yourself would need to stop the maximum amount of trucks in order to get the best payout, something that would come with experience and thus upping the replay value of them)

The only payday era I've played during is toe modern era. To quote the Cloakers, "I know, I know. I'm late."

I first played Payday 2 on the Xbox around 2015 or so and I will never forget the excitement I felt when I acquired my first suppressor and the new avenues it opened up for taking on that jewelry store or bank. I hope Payday 3 captures that same breakthrough moment.

What I truly hope is that payday 3 has like 4-12 day long heists, you would be able to stop inbetween and continue whenever you want, also have days affect the following ones more like in Election Day

Since i usually play with just 1-2 others or fully solo, i have to swap between a few really specialized loadouts. So i guess i still get to roleplay a bit. Its definitely my favourite thing about payday. As long as 3 doesn't swing too hard in either direction i think we'll be ok

I actually don't miss the roleplay era at all. As someone who almost exclusively plays solo, sacrificing my only deployable for C4 or one of my weapons for the otherwise useless saw can be crippling; especially since I never really play meta builds. I'm glad we shifted away from them being almost required on some heists.

@1lucia

Жыл бұрын

What would be great is a system where you could give your bots certain deployables, you could then either take these from them and use them yourself or the bots would do it on their own, not sure which option would be more balanced / actually implementable

7:22 I think it's kinda funny that despite all the FPS mechanics they managed to do really well in a driving game engine, the driving kinda sucks

I still remember Bain telling me to get the thermal drill. Parked somewhere in the parking lot of the bank.

Something about the modern ear which I find really weird is that the game is much less serious, it's goofy having this bright ranch with lime green gas covering every inch of your screen and the marshals just look out of place amongst the normal enemies. Not that this is a bad thing but it is such a departure from the old much more gritty and brutal feeling Hotline Miami and Big Bank and Gold Grin, which is especially odd being that those three have these big comedic set pieces. Hotline Miami is just a reference, the Golden Grin is in this bright casino with a giant mask as a logo at the entrance and Big Bank has you drop a piggy bank from a crane and yet those heists feel serious unlike more modern additions.

man, after seeing this, I have realized that I haven't really used my C4/Saw build in a LONG time. It just doesn't really feel worth it, unless you are playing heists closer to the games release. back in 2015 on Xbox one me and the boys always discussed builds that we would design, so that everyone offered different utility and covered each others weaknesses. You just don't really see that anymore. Payday 3 really should bring back more of those utilities and teamwork. Great vid BTW, always love your content

Well,i was looking on steam page of Payday 3 and i even mentioned there i hope Pd3 will be more like Pd2 started. PD2 used to be more unique and i do think the video explains so perfect these aspects.Money used to be more important same as loot,now you are getting ao much you rarerly care what you playing/doing or extra loot. Levels were much better and immersive.You had FBI rescue team in between waves and all that files photos assetss and heists designs felt great like you and the gang really plan and execute a heist.Classic heists framing frame watchdogs were nice When they added death wish diff with the trailer new units a story behind cops bringing new units for your dangerous crew,new files and tazer they were awesome and felt so unique now there are 6 diff levels,units are the same more hp and dmg its so boring. Same with skills it really used to be more enaging what everybody bringing ammo meds saw c4,you are a crew of 4 heisters at the end so everybody has its role.Now everybody needs to play along inspire and others "od approved build"... I hope Pd3 makes you feel again like a real heister with crew planning and stuff and that the game will be more complex and unique.More complex police aproach withmaybe fbi rescue team coming back and a mechanic where hostages matter and maybe cops will change approach as diff levels increase and that there is a solid reason we see new cops new guns and heists not just to be to speed run them and just have more dmg bullet sponges. I do like going in just shooting everything as sincer some years thats all i am doing but id like to see old approach coming back 2014 as things can always change and mix things after.

Always excited to watch a new Kknowley video!

One of my least favourite heists in PDTH/2 was always Panic Room. I was going through some of the more recent releases and I landed on Black Cat. Same goal in the end, but it felt damn good to play. It shows that the direction they're going in more recently just feels right.

I used to love this but now I just play it once a while, but after the payday3 trailer came out. I got back in straight away

Day 2 of framing frame's sewers are actually otherwise accessible, you can just walk into them using the door. But I do get what you mean. I really do love those small little things you can only get to using certain items

Really insightful video, I've been saying this very same thing with Payday heists for some time now and I really do want to see not only higher stakes with more cinematic moments but also I want to see the story play out more in the heists in a similar way Reservoir Dogs Day 1 did with Bain getting kidnapped during the escape sequence of the heist.

Honestly I hope they kind of tone down the heists for PD3. My favorite heist to this day is First World. It's pretty simple, sure, but I feel that too many of the new heists are off the wall Mission Impossible style, and I find those kind of heists tend to get exhausting after a while.

for me this is the best game because of the story and characters

I feel like the moving away from a role system was due to the power creep and new difficulties.

I'd like to see you re-talk about this topic now that you've had a chance to play some beta gameplay of pd3, to get your perspective on which direction you think it's going from this list. Also i'm gonna be blunt... I 100% blame difficulty levels for why we moved away from roleplay-era "class" gameplay where bringing different assets held genuine benefits. Just... just think about how horrible some heists are as they currently are from previous-era pd2, now that the difficulty is so high that they outright removed damage dropoff. I beat the bomb forest exactly ONCE on dsod, and i genuinely feel ill thinking about it again, all the while i'm currently trying to train someone else in the game so there's a possibility of them POSSIBLY playing pd3 on a harder difficulty than "easy"... I also started reminiscing back when i started playing... my team literally set up specific roles. One crowd control, one Tank, one was loot focused, and then i was set up as the special-killer. My main focus, above all else, was specifically to take out the specials, so i always had to bring a specific primary, while using a secondary to keep my ammo topped off. Usually while our CC was taking out the main cops, if shields, dozers, cloakers or tasers appeared, i was supposed to be right on it, even if that meant jumping right into their face to get their attention of the rest of 'em. It was nice...Sadly, when OD was added, we had just barely began making it into DW heists, and when my group saw OD get added, they just outright gave up. it went from "we can finally earn the masks" to "no. i'm done. it's not worth it" and they outright stopped playing altogether..

Was having a conversation with a friend about this very topic and then this pops up in my recommended

i miss the petty crime heists the most. atmosphere and even visuals were perfect. way more immersive. big hiests are amazing too but its the small ones that act as atlas holding the big ones up

I can’t wait for PAYDAY3. I hope they actually make the game polished unlike lots of recent games

I feel like if pd3 grabs the right things from its predecessors it could become a giant hit ofc if overkill does things right

i haven't played any heist in the modern era, my enjoyment ended with the linear era, as it was disappointing to me that instead of money, i'm supposed to have a goose chase, it would've been also a good option for the heists in the linear era to no be so demanding, every heist until the linear era works just fine, i remember playing the white house heist on 15 FPS maximum, my old CPU would shit itself, i just recently got back into payday and i'm more fond of payday the heist as it had a more grungy atmosphere and a slower pace. the darker feel and soundtrack of payday the heist really hits the mark better than payday 2's more electronic soundtrack, also every PDTH heist had it's own soundtrack, kinda ruins the uniqueness of the heist when all i play on payday 2 is evil eye on loop, as for the pacing of both games, PDTH was slower and more methodical because the enemies were tougher, i'd duck from cover to cover and the pauses between assaults felt well earned, whereas with PD2 I just zoom around the map in an ICTV faster than i can run in PDTH, with hitmarkers to know that i landed my shots, in PDTH i had the satisfaction of knowing i landed a headshot from the noise of glass breaking. all in all PD2 feels more like an arcade game to me than PDTH, the gameplay is significantly improved but i'd go back to PDTH to play if i had the friends to do it with

I think you forgot to mention alonso heist for the visual spectacle

honestly, the more recent heists are (usually) better in both stealth and loud i don't play much stealth, but i know that playing Lost in Transit isn't as miserable as playing Firestarter day 2 on loud, however, the difference is so much more noticeable... try beating Green Bridge DSOD without a full META build & team or 5k hours without dying every 2 minutes, or Goat Simulator, Biker Heist, any of the usual "you ain't getting that DSOD mask" suspects since the maps are so open with little to no cover maps like Goat Sim were made BEFORE the addition of Death Sentence, so they didn't expect you to get two-shot from across the map by any heavy SWAT, and so didn't bother with adding enough cover

I always wanted to replay the story mode in order as well, but the inconvenience it is to do so manually usually throws me off of doing it. Having to manually go to the locked-out career menu then back all the way out to contracts with the temptation of choice usually leads me just wanting to play a different heist. How hard is it to implement a replayable career mode in a game they're trying to make last until Payday 3? (And no, I'm not going to mod my game to get such a basic feature, either; I have my reasons.)

2011-2015 were the best eras imo, things changed drastically and the game went from a somewhat grounded and realistic experience to a RPG horde shooter

Hey Kknowley! Avid player here and new watcher, loving the content. Is there anywhere you post your build/mods? That HUD is making me drool and I -need- to know what those dualie mains you're using are at around 4:34? I've been using the same repeater rifle since... it came out. Thanks!

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

Those are the VD-12s, a shotgun that was added in the most recent weapon DLC I believe. The HUD is Vanilla HUD Plus. I change things frequently so have never had a specific mod list ironed out, but honestly feel like I should!

A great way to say farewell to payday 2 is that please TheKknowley, the day before PD 3 is release you should upload a video of a play thorought with the mod Classic Heisting,not just the main history but also the Silk Road,City of Gold and Texan Heat campaign,I don’t think there’s no better way to say goodbye to payday 2 (I ask for forgiveness for my poor use of the English language)

what hud are you using in this video?

@armyofuno8196

Жыл бұрын

Wolf hud

what's with the colour splashes when you shoot cops in the PD2 clips???

@armyofuno8196

Жыл бұрын

A hud mod

I really do miss when payday felt like a real “heisting game” as opposed to how it feels now as just an objective based shooter. All my favorite missions are the bank ones because they give that classic heist feel. Theres just something so awesome about that vibe. Do t get me wrong I still love modern payday, but it just used to have a more wonderus vibe if that makes any sense.

i remember my brother trying to convince my parents to let him buy payday the heist and my parents thought we were gonna grow up to be bank robbers

Hey knowly quick question and I know it's a very big ask for a very niche type of video but could you ever consider longer types of videos. And I mean like story of payday length because that has to be one of my favourite videos you've got. Obv if you don't wanna commit the months it takes to make a video like that I'm not gonna bitch about it and I'll enjoy what I can get

I would honestly like to see a bit of a return of multi-day heists. I think those heist a pretty fun, and I think that by having the heist be multi-day it adds to the feeling of it being a big and important heist. I still think it could be improved though. If multi-day heist came back I would like to see them evolve. I would like to see that the things you did in the first day would meaningfully affect the later days( like how tagging the wrong truck on Election Day gets you a completely different heist). I think this would make way for way more variety in a heist and make it more fun after all. The one problem that could happen though would be like you said with the current preplanning, where the variety gets suppressed due to there being a clearly superior way to do the heist.

i have high hopes for payday 3 and i really can't wait to see gameplay here are just somethings i would love to see: cops using better tactics like using tear gas on players who are just camping in a room for too long, also i would love to see better heist objectives instead of just waiting for timers to finish, also i really hope that stealth in payday 3 is way better than payday 2, i also want to see more players being a certain playstyle like damage dealer and supportive roles. overall i just hope payday 3 will be the best it can be!!

what Hud mod is this?And your vids are very good

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's Vanilla HUD Plus: modworkshop.net/mod/25629

@idontknowhowtoeat2624

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley thanks

Spectacle does exists in PDTH and payday 2, assuming it would be practical to convey it. Crane moves on undercover with real time shadows, you are lifted into air with an helicopter while you are sitting inside a truck in aftershock, both birth of sky and boiling point has skydiving mechanic, most maps let's you destroy models dotted around the map, on panic room you can physically observe Bile running circles around the map. Even on the last map dlc, you move an entire train by a crane. Spectacle is in the blood of these games. They try to show the spectacle if it is reasonable to show, or they give the implication of it by intro voice clips (such as blowing up green bridge). This aspect of the game is never gonna go away. My concern is the overall quality and consistency moving to payday 3. It would take a long time for me to explain that sentence so I am just not going to do it. This comment is already too long.

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree that the scenerios are spectacular. I just feel that too much is left to the imagination, and when they are shown, diesel struggles to convey the magnitude of the spectacle!

@Bay1k

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley diesel is hard to work with when it comes to map creation. Moving elements are present on most maps, but the way they have to fake it and restrict stuff is honestly comical. On no mercy elevator, the entire map is moved, just so the players don't clip out of the elevator for example. Many moving elements for detailing and spectacle purposes are outside of the player area, so the chances of leading to a bug with, pathfinding, collisions and other stuff is minimal. There are only soo many things you can do with an engine this incapable. I am not saying diesel is incapable of presenting the spectacle since the game does have it on half the maps with stuff that breaks and moves, but it does limit what you can do with it.

6:05 that weapon looks powerful, which one is that?

@aidancorgi5608

Жыл бұрын

I think its akimbo bisons

Combinar los dos Payday que ya existen sacando lo malo del 2 y volviendo solo un poco a la dificultad aplastante del 1

At this point the Payday gang are more closer to mercenaries than an actual heist crew. The evolution of payday heists is wierd

Can't wait for Payday 3. Will they go crazy with the story? Or will they just have heists for us to go crazy in? Either way I can't wait for Payday 3 to see what happens. Especially since almost every character from the previous games retired from heists and crime.

I love payday 2 nowadays, I remember loving it when it came out even tho it was bare bones back then but still it was enjoyable

I hope in PD3 They include the classic PD1 heists and the best heists of 2 as well. Golden Grin, White house, Big Bank, etc

First I saw the evolution of destiny 2 (2008-2024) and now the evolution of payday heist (2011-2023) this is great also great video

I recently started and am very much enjoying playing with Restoration Mod. While maps feel the same, it changes play by just making everything more generally build dependent and partially team dependent. It’s a high recommendation for those who want older style payday combat with newer style enemies.

I do like having "roles" on a team, the amount of combat specialisation you need to do for the higher difficulties means there just isn't room to carry a non-combat specialised build. In stealth everyone can get to every key skill needed so no one is specialised. I would like to see more parallel objectives in heists, both loud and stealth - I found that in the early days doing stealth with a team boils down to "host does most of the sneaking because of desync and clients just spot/watch cams/carry loot" or in loud "everyone sits around the drill, huddled for warmth". It would be nice to have things that a co-ordinated squad can do at the same time to speed up/get more loot, thinking Overdrill-lite kind of activities but on the critical path of a heist rather than cryptically hidden. Also, while this is a BIG ask and is less about the heists and more about the game... having recently tried Payday 2 VR I would LOVE Payday 3 to also support it. Even with the janky control mapping on the Index PD2 is a HELL of a lot of fun. I was shocked with just how much effort was put into the VR version and honestly kinda impressed the Diesel engine handles it mostly ok. If you ever need a life line for a VR challenge run give me a shout!

If they plan on bringing utility options back to heists I expect them to not make them need a weapon slot but are all in a utility slot

Even if it's a game I don't play, I like these history videos on games. I play this one tho. Like a lot

The hopes for payday 3 aged so poorly 😢

Challenge Run idea... Every Heist completed the way Ovk intended. Each Heist done with the four heisters that would have canonically been there, each using the characters respective perk deck a build based around how that perk is intended to be played (if John Wick is there you have someone with a Hitman-Aki Pistol build, if Sangres then you get a Sicario AR build, etc.) Would need 3 more people but could be a lot of fun

Babe wake up kknowley just posted a new video

Might buy a PC solely just for Payday2 mods...namely the one that adds the cut weapons I've heard about

What mod makes the damage numbers glow.

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

Vanilla HUD Plus :)

Controversial opinion: I actually like the reuse of maps, it saves on memory and space on the Player's computer, and also (for me) is really fun to learn a ton of spots on the map, but on different objectives.

0:54 We don't know the system requirements for payday 3 yet so that's nonsense

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

We can have a bloody good guess! Although it is a fair point, well taken - I'll try to avoid making those sorts of assumptions in the future.

4:18 streamlined heisting reference (real)

The roleplaying era was my first experience with the game. I've always thought David Goldfarb had a good grasp for how to improve the sequel when compared to the original and expand the appeal of its gameplay and doesn't get enough credit. He's publicly praised AD&D before and I think that roguelike rpg influence shows in the design of early Payday 2. More build diversity, more procedural elements and maps so that the same heists have lots of replayability without getting stale and solvable. My biggest gripe with the series is that I wish it hadn't turned into a horde shooter (reskinning the zombies of Left 4 Dead with hordes of cops). My ideal Payday 3 would honestly be more of an extraction looter like Escape From Tarkov with less enemies on screen at a time and more realistic police tactics but far more deadly gunplay.

I recently got PD:TH, and it's weird how different and cool the changes have been from then to now. I hope with PayDay 3 we get some more influence over how the heists go with pre-planning and a mix of stealth/loud because I love feeling like solid snake in stealth but sometimes it just doesn't feel good when guards just don't move, they get alerted for no reason or it just takes forever to do the heists on stealth(framing frame) and it's so tedious to do that it's almost not worth it. I like being the Jack of all trades guy in PD2 because I don't particularly excel in any " role " but I can do a lot in them all from keeping everyone alive with medic bags/kits, blasting open doors/tracking guard movement with the trip mines, lockpicking open the deposit boxes/safes and doors. It saves a bunch of time and heist knowledge helps a ton but I hope weapons get an overhaul in PD3 because I have tried so many but it always comes back to the same 3 or 4 guns being used because they are just to good with damage/ammo count and their weapon perks, even though I want to use something like the AK rifles but the ammo count is terrible and they just aren't worth their money and time to use.

@albertlofling7310

Жыл бұрын

Shoulda been there before the supressor dmg skil get removed. Absolutley op as everyone snd their mother got it but man did it allow for some nonsense. Dmrs were actually usable aswell due to the ammo pickup they had. Oh and who can forget the crossbow grenade launcher meta that got them nerfed from aoe dmg kings to a crowd control tool

Another based video by kknowley

Payday in general has made a transition from (attempted) gritty criminal realism to goofy, arcadey horde shooter. Most apparent in the perk decks IMO. Leech would not, COULD not have existed in 2013.

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, it only has an image of gritty realism, inspired by crime caper movies. Go back to PDTH and the goofyness can already be felt. This was never a series meant to be taken seriously. I mean, five minutes after the start of every heist and it all just boils down to Left for Dead with a different skin. As new heists were introduced and the stakes kept growing, the goofy nature only became more pronounced. Again, this is apparen even in TH. After they've robbed First world bank and earned millions where else is there to go? That's like, an end goal to a heister's career!

@croma2068

Жыл бұрын

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 yes, but PD2 was a clear attempt to focus on jobs of a "realistic" scale. Robbing a small branch bank, transporting a bit of cocaine, destroying a mall... but feature creep and power creep destroyed that vision pretty quickly.

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

Жыл бұрын

@@croma2068 Yeah, see, the problem isn't that Payday 2 got more goofy, it's that it started out too grounded and serious. To the point that returning players from TH were disapointed with it's lack of scale, unique setpieces and overall content at launch. Going goofy saved Payday 2, gave it longevity, a possibility of narative/story as well as meme stardom.

payday the heist was weird to play when you couldnt get different weapons, only the 4 things you couldve gotten and that weird upgrade list is just bleh

@firstnamelastname-oy7es

Жыл бұрын

there was a lot of weapons in pdth, you just had to unlock them by playing and looting money. There wasn't as many in pdth as in pd2 though because 2 has had 10 years of paid dlc post launch support

honestly i think money lost all meaning the very same day that skills no longer cost money to train. skills were always the only real money sink. yeah guns cost money but never like skills did and you only ever really needed to buy a gun once. same with masks, which you had to try really, really hard just to get up in the range of a few mil.

Payday 2 is cool tho lol-

Randomly get this to 1000 likes!

Third? Im Not Sure What To Say

Scotland, Femboys and cereal

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

In that order?

@alistairmathie7632

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley it depends, you know

The Waffle House has found its new host

I hate the new heist design. First off, most heists nowdays aren't even heists. We plenty of assasinations and prison breaks, but almost no actual heists anymore (yes ik there wore heists-that-arent-really-heists before too, but the emphasis was on stealing). Second off, I hate the puzzles. Having to alt-tab payday for 2 mins to search a walkthrough just to move on with the mission isnt fun, and it isn't . Thirth off, most heist to have multiple approaches to them yes, and the new preplanning mechanics are cool, but still the missions are way too linear. You select your approach, and then walk in a straight line while shooting cops untill the mission ends, only you get to chose what straight line you will walk through. Think back to something like Nightclub, Bank heist or Four Stores. They tell you to steal something, and drop you in the map to let you and your group approach the heist however you want. Those worent just "A or B" choices. You got to fully chose everything about your approach, not being restricted to strict options. And finally, heist nowdays dont feel planned. You don't prepare a drill before the hit, and then rob the bank with the drill you brought with you. Nowdays you go to storeage room, grab the banks drill and use that.

@somerandomgamer8504

Жыл бұрын

Literally the last two heists were entirely just about stealing stuff with in-depth pre-planning? And before that, we have the San Martin Bank, the Black Cat, the Dragon Heist- all focused on stealing stuff. Even Border Crystals if you wanted something Cook Off-esqe. There isn't a single puzzle in the game that's that complex unless you count Overdrill, and that's not something you'd even know about without someone telling you. Midlane Ranch is also not linear; you can tackle either side of the ranch first. I like clearing out the workshops in stealth to build all the weapons and secure them without interruption, then do the ranch house in loud. The og H&T Bank heist and Nightclub are so painfully linear that I don't think you even know what you're talking about.

@insomniagobrrr5542

Жыл бұрын

*third

Dude, you seriously complained about not being able to see something in the game because of something that is your own fault? There's a word for that...actually, there's several, and none of them are compliments.

I know now what to do, i will buy Stocks in STARBREZE STUDIOS and get rich in the end of the year. 🎯🔥

Um... I think I just discovered a hidden feature in payday 2 that has never been talked about... @TheKKnowly, please respond, I think you'll like this information, it's maybe only for counsel though. I only play on ps4

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@azismoothjudah5894

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley I don't know if this is commen knowledge but I've been playing for years and just found out that the a/p secondary pistol can go through shields. I searched on YT to see if anyone talked about it and I didn't see anything so does everyone know this??

@TheKknowley

Жыл бұрын

@@azismoothjudah5894 Yep, the 5/7 is one of the best pistols in the game because of that!

@azismoothjudah5894

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKknowley I need to try PC so I can enjoy the updates they give yall😭but I've never played a game on PC so it's going to be a tough transition. Keep up the awesome videos

The Waffle House has found it's new host

@katzbkewl9900

Жыл бұрын

Your house has found a new host (your father left)

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

Жыл бұрын

@@katzbkewl9900 HAHAHAHHAHAHA