My old man was an old school boxer in London. Bare knuckle and semi pro... thats how he taught me..

@harrisfrankou2368

3 жыл бұрын

My Great Gran Dad was too, Mum was East end but from Irish and English blood.

@tommcalpine6062

3 жыл бұрын

My grandad (Irish/Scottish) and dad (English) fought in similar style. They would block and counter strike. They had loads of unusual tactics like stepping on your lead foot and use their hips as a strike or takedown.

@Khonnell66

3 жыл бұрын

@@tommcalpine6062 Pacman was very effective at stepping on toes to keep a fighter immobile.

@jestfullgremblim8002

3 жыл бұрын

@@Khonnell66 ye

@brandonvazquez2829

2 жыл бұрын

Did your old man happen to be one of the Cray Brothers? Lol. I forgot the name of the one who used to box in London haha. I'm obviously joking though haha

I am not a fighter nor ever likely to fight, yet I am fascinated by listening to you talk as you very patiently and clearly explain things and also (importantly) explain the history and reasoning behind everything. Thankyou for the info.

@sdog8i840

3 жыл бұрын

I am also never going to fight but as a huge MMA fan, I still love learning about it.

@callumbiasnow4825

3 жыл бұрын

Dude find somewhere to train a bit, a family kick boxing gym or somewhere. You can be 5 stone or 25 stone. You don’t have to spar or fight, they’ll know your level and just hit some pads, you’ll start to see the “science” of it, improve fitness and it’s great fun. You won’t regret it.

@baller4378

Жыл бұрын

​@@callumbiasnow4825AGREED !!

Wow never noticed flipping the old English boxing stance to front becomes a Muay Thai stance. This is why I give Ramsey tons of respect.

@voiceofreason2674

Жыл бұрын

My dad 6’7” did something like this with sparring and used his long jab to paw people down. It looked like he was flamenco dancing cuz he just kept one leg loaded to throw the straight right the whole time it was a goofing off joke but there is truly nothing to do but back off

"What else would you call me, bob ,bill , buck"😂😂😂

@ProfesserLuigi

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Coach Buck Dewey...

@Mishkola

3 жыл бұрын

call me anything you want, just don't call me late to dinner

@rashid4735

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProfesserLuigi 🤣🤣😭😭

@ahkenjames3846

3 жыл бұрын

Anything but Sue! I still hate that name!

@Mishkola

3 жыл бұрын

@@ahkenjames3846 I should've thought of that

Maybe a little bit off topic but it's fun to watch when MMA fighters have good boxing and I'm noticing as the sport progresses the boxing is improving alot the shoulder roll is becoming commonly utilized in the UFC now for example

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@joewoodland8635

3 жыл бұрын

That is why the calf kick meta is becoming so prevalent. It is one of the easiest ways to disrupt a traditional boxing entry. As boxing improved/improves the calf kick becomes more powerful as a technique neutraliser

@cesaralvesdemoraes3187

3 жыл бұрын

@@joewoodland8635 good catch

@Odwolf2

3 жыл бұрын

@@joewoodland8635 Brings to mind Purring. A style for shin kicking to topple opponents from 17th century England. Pre Queensbury Rules, a top fighter would be well versed in Boxing, catch as catch can wrestling, and shin kicking. Which to me, seems to be a style gaining trend.

@CP-uw4ts

3 жыл бұрын

@@Odwolf2 called a scoop kick in wing chun and hapkido.

Question should be if you're going to do old school English fighting stance Should I grow a moustache like them, wear long johns and workman's boots

@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes you should, and don't forget the hair.

@knightveg

3 жыл бұрын

@@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 I can't remember what they put the hair, Some kind of oil grease

@ashchaya7676

3 жыл бұрын

If you grow the moustache right, you shouldn't need a mouth guard.

@knightveg

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashchaya7676 😁😁😁😁😁

@websterdrums

3 жыл бұрын

@@knightveg Brylcreem

Excellent point.

Changing stances is a topic that isn't touched on enough. I'm about 6'1, and I've been boxing for 6 years. My coach is very versatile and has always added layers to my game. Never tried to strip away my natural tendencies. So even though i'm a tall fighter for my weight class, I have a natural inclination to fight on the inside. My usual stance is meant for power, knees bent low, wide stance, and a tight yet shifting guard BUT if there's a momentum shift? I can just as easily switch to a very upright stance using my height and reach. Standing tall, chin tucked in my shoulder and jab arm down swinging like a pendulum and walking backwards with my right hand ready to block or parry incoming punches(basically a philly shell). I really appreciate my coach for that.

@aiyahuntacheimumbi236

3 жыл бұрын

Lot of great Tall inside fighters! Jon Jones amazes me in MMA, too many great ones in Muay Thai to count, and Sandy Saddler is the most obvious example I can think of in Boxing, although George Foreman in the 80's & 90's has a very underrated inside game too!

@Animefightforum

3 жыл бұрын

If you look towards going muay thai then model Dieselnoi. The most dominant Yod Muay of all time. He was 6”2 and a muay khao (knee fighter) you can find some of his fights and some indepth tutorials with him by sylvie von duuglas. Wish i was that tall. Tall Knee fighters have such an advantage in the west and thailand. Turn into a relentless killing machine and you’ll actually be unbeatable like dieselnoi was

@bojo2072

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 6'8 and I have the exact same tendencies! Wide and low stance, low lead hand for up jabs, shoulder rolls and forearm blocks/lifts

That stance appears even earlier. It shows up in the grappling section of the *Fiore de Battaglia*, or "Flower of Battle." It's a bit hard to tell if he's doing it specifically for the grappling position he calls "Boar's tusk," but you can DEFINITELY see the master in that exact position as part of a grapple that can transition into a lock/throw in the first play. Seriously would like to see you look it over even if only the preface and the grappling parts. They actually have free online translations of the entire thing!

@forickgrimaldus8301

Жыл бұрын

Fiore liked Grappling he basically believes that Swordsmen should learn in steps with the 1st step being to be able to know how to Grapple the opponent.

George Foreman used extended arms as "feelers", more heavily in his earlier career. It wasn't quite the extended English guard but it was similar.

What is funny about this irish or english stance: the rotation of the fists while in "Guard position" with the knuckles pointed to the opponent, makes a lot of sense when your straight punches hit with a vertical fist. Sure you can "corkscrew punch" from this, but on other painted art from this era, it is often shown that the "Pugilists" punched vertical.

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

A vertical fist on the jab with a falling step was the norm back then.

@Hugh_Jurrection

3 жыл бұрын

@@RamseyDewey This was because it was bare knuckle and hand injuries were frequent. As a result the vertical position prevented many more injuries. This was important as many of these fighters were competing 2-3 times per week back in the day.

@haffoc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hugh_Jurrection Yes, I think this is true.

@FredKuneDo

3 жыл бұрын

I came to the conclusion, that it is a good thing teaching beginners first to throw jab and cross with an almost vertical fist. This way I can train them to keep the elbows in, when they advance, the body mechanics and to rotate the fist horizontal, are easier to teach. But this depends of coruse on the favored guard position from which the punches are thrown.

@GuitarsRockForever

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hugh_Jurrection Not only that, back then, there was no advanced medical surgery like today. You break your hand, there is a big chance your hand is screwed for the rest of your life.

3:37: Can we all just appreciate the HAT on that ref? Bring back refs wearing hats.

@jestfullgremblim8002

3 жыл бұрын

yes, YES

@tacozxtc

3 жыл бұрын

And how big that ref was 💁🏻‍♂️

The old pugilism stance is also used in Karate styles.

@Ydidutakemyname

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Jesse from karate nerd talks about how the karate stance from Okinawa changed a bit to a deeper more springy stance once it got to mainland Japan

@Ydidutakemyname

3 жыл бұрын

@crowthrone I think the one that usually get mocked is the super blades style of sports karate, great for getting in and out but not so much for grappling

@blockmasterscott

3 жыл бұрын

We use it in Choy Li Fut also.

@MrThistleMilk

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ydidutakemyname You should checkout Kyoji Horiguchi, he fights like that but he's also an amazing wrestler

@chi7818

3 жыл бұрын

@crowthrone I don’t think it degrades per say, it changes it to be more efficient at a different goal. Using sports karate as an example, Sports karate stances are great for sports karate so that’s not degrading in any way, however it’s no longer that same original stance so it loses the functionality it used to have. The problem is when people think these are interchangeable.

I believe the guy who posted the question is talking about an even older type of boxing, traditional pugilism circa 1600-mid1800s where they still used wrestling techniques to do takedowns and slam people on the floor (among other techniques that were eventually forbidden). I'm not sure but I believe it was with the Broughton rules that they banned grappling? or maybe with the english prizefighting rules?.

@benstoyles1297

3 жыл бұрын

In addition to what Elliot Vernon commented, Broughton’s rules removed groundfighting. When a part of a fighter above the knee touched the ground he was considered a beaten man and the round was over. He would then have 30 seconds to come up to a scratch (a square drawn in the centre of the ring) at which time fighting would recommence.

Standing grappling (throws, trips, sweeps etc) were allowed under the Broughton rules (1700s) and London prize ring rules (1800s). And they were scored if one guy remained standing. Just no going to the ground. That changed under Marquis of Queensberry rules (late 1800s), even though more clinging was allowed. After MQ brought in gloves and no grappling, technique evolved to correspond with that, but it took awhile. I think the biggest difference was that the jab became better and more important.

Thanks for the answer Ramsey. I know I didn't know much about my own question, but you're always so respectful and helpful with your answers. I can see why you chose coaching.

He is probably referring to pre-quinsbery era - either the London rules which still allowed throws etc. (19th century) or even before when it was just fighting with very little rules, sometimes even using weapons. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Prize_Ring_Rules

@sherrattpemberton6089

3 жыл бұрын

I also figured he was referring to pre-quinsbery era bare knuckle - the question could have been more specific. The picture also clearly shows the off hand barred against the solar plexus - not out - which he seems to have missed

@rochahouse4883

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know they allowed throws and weapons at a point, I should look into this. Cool thing to discover lol

@douglasyonker510

3 жыл бұрын

@@rochahouse4883 Eye gouges, groin strikes, foot stomps, head butts and biting were also common before Queensbury rules.

@hansihobr

3 жыл бұрын

I think Muay Thai stance and old english boxing stance are notoriously different stances. Even the comparative image in the thumbnail between MMA and old boxing shows totally different postures.

@chriswright9945

3 жыл бұрын

Pre Queensbury would have been Jack Broughton. Often called the father of Boxing. He was at one point champion of all England. He introduced safety rules after witnessing grievous injuries of stage fights. Kicks, grapples and throws were all onboard, I think perhaps the banning of 'Purring' happened at some point. Purring was the act of kicking an opponent whilst he was on the floor. More interesting than Broughton's boxing rules for me, is his teacher and first champion.

I love coming to this channel. An amazing perspective every time.

This is one of the best and most interesting videos I have seen, nice to see the stances placed in a historical context, thank you Ramsey.

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hey Ramsey, Could you do a video explaining a few of the different guards and blocks for kickboxing an other stand up sports

your knowledge of the history of martial arts is always impressive :)

As always, excellent work sir

I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for this answer

You happen to be very insightful and your voice keeps me interested. I subscribed to you just for because you know what you're talking about, how you explain things so they can be easily understood, your voice, and you're organized. I appreciate this video honestly!

That was really cool. Had no idea about thia. Didn't even think about where my stance came from. Thanks coach

yeah im gonna have to subscribe! very good video

You made me interested in fighting ramsay and now im training Evert day of the week, thank you for opening my eyes to the wonderful world of martial arts.

He would call you Coach, Sensei, Sir, Master, Teacher? Something more respectful/formal than Ramsey. Thank you for being so down to earth and welcoming with your approach to this KZread thing.

As it happens, that palms-out stance you see in muay thai was also found in ancient Greek pankration. You can see it illustrated in many ancient works of art depicting fighters. If the ancient Greeks used it, and the muay thai guys use it today, you can bet it is useful. But like Mr Dewey says, you don't lie in a single posture all the time.

Great vid. What would also be great would be some old school boxing techniques (and their perspectives concerning grappling, parries and even cross-guard and crab guard) to use in mma

Thank you Ramsey to educate us Peace Coach

@Ramsey. I have a question for your next Q&A. What technique, training or conditioning method from older traditional martial arts do you feel have been forgotten and could have value in today's MMA if brought back?

Loved your channel! Great points! Technical arsenal as evolved and application strategy etc....but we're not inventing the wheel, just changing those iron "tires" for constantly improving rubber ones 😉👊🏼🙏🏼 thanks, Renato

always a interesting listen, cheers Bob, I mean Ramsey ;)

Great video Steve!

Very informative, Coach Buck

Amazing points and really good advice for martial arts fans of any level, thanks for the insight

Great topic.. 👌🏻

Interesting. I agree with your explanation completely.

Love your videos. God bless

Great explanation

oh I've seen you do that In a couple of your sparing videos One that's very memorable to me was you were on the outside in that stance thew a kick and ended up close into a philly shell I found it realy interesting, especially because I don't know alot about wrestling and the transitions from that outside range to inside the pocket then to a takedown always come as a surprise ☺ Keep smiling love the videos

Good video. Just to add it might be worth mentioning how today's boxing stance is based off the use of 8-10 oz gloves 🥊 and creating a shield as opposed to bare knuckle the defense is different.

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

You can hit a lot harder to the head, many, many more times without breaking your hands with boxing gloves on. That is the principle difference.

Great video, so when we talking about oldschool boxing stances what do you think about Daniel Mendoza stance and is it any useful in MMA?

@OnyxXThePunch

3 жыл бұрын

Nick Diaz is remarkably similar to Mendoza tbh

Thanks for your input, Billy Bob Buck.

Subscribed for dat buttery smooth man voice.

The Punishing Art by James Lafond mentions the purpose of this guard and its use in clinching and throwing in old school boxing. I never even notice it's a MT guard lol. subscribed.

I feel like that also very closely follows the requirements of the San Ti Xing Yi stance, speaking of which I would really like to hear your thoughts on Xing Yi Quan. There is an Internal Arts martial arts instructor near where I live and they do actually spar and train towards learning to fight and not just forms, mostly with Xing Yi the instructor told me. I took Baguazhang when I was younger and have a general understanding so it would probably be ideal for me to get back into. If I were to take BJJ afterwards does that sound like a reasonable basis to get into mixed martial arts with?

Nice video Ramsey, I think a few other points to add are that after Jack Broughton formulated his rules no grappling below the belt was allowed. Also one of the reasons the head was back and high was that most attacks were to the body and even arms, hard skull vs fist... Also the rear arm over the solar plexus was to protect the golden spot, I believ this is where the term 'mark ' comes from, as in to miss/hit the mark. The grappling usually involved what was called chancery, controlling the head and neck in a form of lock. Broughton also came up with the idea of 'mufflers' a pre runner to gloves. Even then though he acknowledge that a form of padding had more chance of long term head damage. Back to the outstrched pronated fist, this was to aid the quick jab and ensure the knuckles connected, generally all the pun he's were like this or vertical. Very little time was spent on hooks as these were seen as techniques of unskilled fighters. Just some food for thought..😁

im gonna have to watch some more old school boxing, that looked proper interesting... Ramsey, what are your thoughts on chess boxing? would you ever give it a go?

Good video Bill.

Looks a bit like what I was taught as the Taekwondo fighting stance. With a focus on patterns and long-range fighting, I never did any clinch or boxing type training to learn how to use it properly. Or, fight at all.

I feel like most of this comes from promotional pictures, like look at a promo picture of todays fighters, they are not always in the stance they use all the time.

Look up Mads Burnell. He just had his Bellator debut last night. He uses variations of old boxing stances and guards all the time in MMA. Pretty cool.

first time watching this channel. so when this video started playing I got distracted reading the description so I was not watching at all, so im hearing this narrator voice announcing the video's sponsor and stuff and then going on to the actual questions and starts answering and suddenly in my head was like "wtf why is this announcer still talking and asking if he should be called Bob or Bill" so I actually look at the video and I realize it was the actual dude's voice and im like wtf thats the coolest voice, its nothing like what I would expect this dude to sound like

@RamseyDewey

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha! (Laughs in announcer voice)

If take a look at many Vale Tudo fights, the fighters are often using that stance, Rio Heros was a good exemple of it, the majority of the fighters that came from a grappling background used that same guard during the stand-up.

cool vid thanks

Nice. Your explanation reminds me exactly of how trapping is implemented in Taiji Meihua Tang Lang. Utilizing those feelers. Just further proof how many arts have many similarities.

The questioner was probably referring to professional boxing under the London Prize Ring rules, which did allow standing grappling and throwing as well as punching. Those were the days before timed rounds and points, when a round only ended when one fighter hit the ground (either by knock-down, throw, slipping over, etc.) and the fight continued until one man couldn't continue. Anyway, yes, they did use a variety of standing throws - they're clearly illustrated and described in numerous boxing manuals of the period and also in newspaper reports on numerous fights.

Hi Ramsey, you addressed the hand positioning and weighting, but what about the more upright posture? The Muay Thai stance (stereotypically) has the shoulders hunched over which is quite different.

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

Muay Thai fighters kick each other in the head with their right leg. The shoulders aren’t hunched over, they are raised. In the English boxing stance, generally only the lead shoulder was raised.

@whiteeye9584

Жыл бұрын

@@RamseyDewey wow such ignorance

The old stance still looks a bit different to the muay thai stance. MOre leaning back for example. Chin not tucked as much i think.

I think what they person meant when they said "when boxers could still wrestle/grapple" or something like that, yeah so prior to I think 1743 boxers use to eye gauge, fish hook, and all kinds of things but even after the first set of rules in 1743, one of their favorite moves was to get the opponent down, on ground or mat, and hold his head with one hand and bash his head with the other. That was considered OK and even preferable, I want to say this was around the time of Daniel Mendoza - also great content just subbed

What are your thoughts on the scoring system of Muay Thai, in western countries it's mostly who throws more and lands more in Thailand or in any old school style the scoring is done on proper stance , maintenance of forms and technique..... What are your views on this

Santishi(三体式) is the foundation stance for Xingyiquan(形意拳). It is derived from the on guard stance used when pointing a spear(枪) towards the opponent. It applies in bayonet fighting as well, and it is most apparent in Jukendo.

What you described is my stance. I've trained kickboxing, chinese martial arts, ttaekwondo (briefly) systema, judo (bbriefly) and now train mma (mostly bjj though). Works well in sparing and I have used it in the street once after pushing a guy away after he tried to punchny m8 in the head. The extended arm did good job of keeping him at a distance. The defensive hands meant the bouncer grabbed him and I could get on with my night.

Howdy Ramsey, I've been looking into training for combat sports of some kind once the coof clears up. once this happens I'm looking to really dedicate myself and train 16-20hrs a week. Fundamentally I have two questions. Question one at that level of training how long would you expect it to take to acquire a sufficient degree of proficiency to be competing on a regional or national level? Or would that only take you so far before you would have to commit more to training? Question two other than general health and fitness is there anything I can do on my own to increase the speed at which I pick things up?

Coach question for you, Ramsey/Bill/Buck: Currently in a boxing gym and I love it. However, in a few months I'll be moving to a new city and won't have many gyms with me or a punching bag in my new home. Aside from shadow boxing and calisthenics, is there anything else I can do to continue training?

Do you think that vertical fist punches would be useful in MMA or even in boxing? I see people preoccupied with this idea, since Bruce Lee advocated the vertical fist punches and Jack Dempsey an example in his book where he had put his fist on the wall to demonstrate how one should lean your weight into it using a vertical fist. As anatomically natural as it appears I don't see many people using it in full contact matches of any type where I live. What are your thoughts on vertical fist punching?

Hello Ramsey, i sustained a head injury from sparring when i ate a mean roundhouse to my temple and I can’t train to my full capacity, is it still worth it to do light training?

Love this one! Boxing has a special place in my heart,and it's incredible to see how we still use these things today. It's stood the test of time

In bareknuckles fights I think the fighters would throw more body shots to wear down their opponent without damaging/breaking their own hands. They weren't throwing full force head shots from the first round given the fights could go 20, 30, 40 rounds. I suspect you would see more of the Nick Diaz style punches to the head with a lot of hard body shots, and a lot of open hand strikes to the head as in sumo wrestling. Gloves allow more powerful head shots requiring defensive postures with hands held higher.

What do u guys think of virtual sparring I find it is a good supplement to actual sparring helps me to see punch coming and practice effective responses

Hi Ramsey I have a question which I hope I might get your perspective on to help me make a better informed choice about the next stage of my martial arts training. For context I have practiced 'traditional' Karate for over a decade and it is something which I have enjoyed for it's own sake. I have recently moved to a new town and the are no Karate clubs within a reasonable commuting distance, I figured this would be a good opportunity to take a sabbatical from Karate and experience something else to diversify my training. In the area there is a kickboxing club which I am tempted by, sparring is probably one of my weaker areas and practicing something with more immediate and obvious consequences might help me get over at least the mental blocks I seem to face when fighting. My dilemma is that all of the existing members look to be considerably bigger, heavier, and stronger than me. You have often said that size matters in a fight and I can't see me having much chance in any sparring in which I might partake. While I am not bothered about losing in sparring (I generally do!) I do like to theoretically have a chance so that I have a goal to aim for. I appreciate you tend not to advise people where they should train however I wondered what take was on the benefits and disadvantages of training in such circumstances? To confirm, my concern is over their physical superiority and not their technical superiority. This was not such an issue in my Karate training as a sizable portion of the training was line work and kata. (hopefully I don't come across as too much of a wimp!) Thanks very much Matt

I can't believe that all this time I never noticed this! No matter how much you think you know theirs always more to learn.

I wonder how much bear knuckle boxing as changed in this modern era vs in the old era?Do we still have the same defense and offense?

Nice moves!

@muhammadujaama631

3 жыл бұрын

I had to rewind several times up really appreciate that smooth takedown!

Do we have examples of and/or names for the other stances mentioned at 3:20?

“What else would you call me” anything but master Ramsey 😂

Just curious but can you update us on the covid in China situation? How back to normal is everyday life? Thanks in advance.

Nice

I never thought about the english boxing stance as being similar to a Muay Thai stance. Mind. Fucking. Blown. Good sir.

Yeah I love this stance not sure why but I do

I think your viewer was talking about boxing under London Prize Ring rules, where grappling to an extent was allowed. Boxing for the last 130 years or so has been under Queensbury rules. Totally different beast.

Great explanation! Makes perfect sense. It’s not far off from what I learn in Krav Maga.

Hi Ramsey really love your channel and Q&A Can you please talk about what exactualy is catch wrestling? Is it different than BJJ? What are the basic concepts of this method? And can we find fighters who uses the tchniques? Just started BJJ and Judo (2 months ago)

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJ6lsNKoo8XZodI.html CACC: no holds barred, win by pin or submission, best of 3 falls wins (fall= pin or submission) ties are broken with a sudden death round where the first takedown wins. Other differences between CACC and BJJ: Wrestlers wear wrestling shoes, and no gi, they tend to get mean, and if you don’t know your takedowns, and/or if your top game is lacking, you will lose.

What kind of beginner training would suggest to someone like me that wants a career in fighting?

It's Mister Dewey, to you sir!

This is off topic but Ramsey who do you think would win Jon Jones or Israel? Also I would love to see you breakdown each's skillset.

I was taught by my Grandad that they boxed like that in bare knuckle bouts to present the larger knuckles forward to strike with too save the second row of knuckles from damage. Most fighters were from manual trades where their livelihoods depended on their hands. When you think of it, it’s a bit like the Okinawans use of forward Uraken from guard.. it’s all about preserving the hands. He taught me the “ knuckle under” for the head, face and throat and “ knuckle up” for body shots and always always! a high guard...

Boxing used to use alot of grappling ect. In America it was called rough and tumble. It is alot like pancrasion style or vale tudo. It wasn't until the second or third time of rule transition, until we have to pugilism we have today. A few high profile fights resulted in death bc of lack of time limit ect.

Yea whats interesting is that stance also translates to a lot of weapons forms as well. Interesting how martial styles spread over thousands of years and evolve just like the human body itself.

Informational as always coach, I've been wanting to ask for a while, do you have some of your original music in SoundCloud or similar sites?

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Just on my KZread videos

You'd be very interested in Dan Donnelly. He was arguably the best BKB. You make some great points here too.

@richardsmith70

3 жыл бұрын

Would say my relation gem mace was one of the greatest

@patrickconnors4602

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsmith70 yes he's a legend too. John L Sullivan was another one. And my grandmother's first cousin, Bartley Gorman was another great BKB.

@richardsmith70

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickconnors4602 yes both were liked Bartley he seemed to be a good person and a legend to

@patrickconnors4602

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsmith70 wanna know something crazy. I have a photo with Bartley as a child. I obviously was too you to know who he was and can't even remember the photo being taken. Supposedly he was the absolute real deal and as tough as his legend suggests. I also heard he was an complete gentleman too. There was no hard man stuff out of him. If you upset him he would rather talk it out. But being a traveller (not a gypsy BTW) it's very easy to get challenged constantly by men who want to take your pride and reputation.

@richardsmith70

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickconnors4602 that's really cool but generally wife is full gypsy they say traveller gypsy same thing I had jem mace on side but my dad's side originated from forest of Dean and called them selves last cave man I think some prefer to be called different types but end of the day pretty much same shame that you were to young to remember it but least you got the picture

Hey Sir!do we get brain damage because of intense head movement like when practising for slipping your head for boxing?🙏

@julianguerendiain6686

3 жыл бұрын

I can only imagine that happening if you literally swing your head/neck around so fast you hurt your back/neck. But I don't think you can move your head fast enough for you to literally damage your brain doing that, impact trauma is the thing I'd worry about.

@gamerx4286

3 жыл бұрын

@@julianguerendiain6686 Thanks for your reply.Can u tell me What are the only things in the boxing that can cause brain damage that can be while training or in the fight

@twotimetony78

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamerx4286 getting hit in the head..

Grappling with above the waist throws and chanceries was fine under the London Prize Ring Rules which predate the early gloved era/post Marquess of Queensbury rules. So boxers from 150 years ago or more or so were wrestling and throwing more in boxing matches.

Justin gaethje has one of these stances but it's slightly different. His hands arent fully extended and his lead shoulder is at a higher angle compared to his rear shoulder. This made it more suitable to be able to counter. He uses this stance very well in the tony Ferguson fight. Big nog also had this stance

You think about the possibility of underground fighting? Would commentate it if the pay was significant?

There actually were takedowns before Marquis of Queensbury rules . a round was called evertime a fighter was floored , whether or not it was a punch or throw . Ramsey have you given your opinion yet on Bare knuckle boxing that has become legal in America and is gaining popularity ? I would like to know what you think about it and how would the training be different than gloved boxing

@RamseyDewey

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve talked about that in at least three videos and a couple of live streams so far.

That takedown at 3:59 was perfect

If you go back further, there were indeed takedowns and throws in boxing. The end of each “round” occurred when a combatant got the ground, whether through blows, trips or throws. Most often the latter two. This is why you could see fights going dozens of rounds. That’s my understanding of it anyway.