The Enduring Liminality of the Screensaver
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Many of us have not thought about screensavers in years, but they are far more interesting than they might seem. They have a certain liminality to them that isn't quite matched elsewhere.
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You might like XScreenSaver, which has 200+ screensavers that have been developed since 1992. Its probably the best continuation of them since the 90s.
@KyanoAng3l0
5 ай бұрын
It's a pity that there's no Windows version of that, thanks to Microsoft. I'm currently building my own archive of Windows stuff from childhood in the form of a Windows XP VM. A collection like XScreenSaver could've made things easier.
@tendo649
5 ай бұрын
@@KyanoAng3l0 I think I may have found a Windows port of it actually, so while it may not stay updated it is still possible I think
@slavprussiaottomanfinlandUSUK
5 ай бұрын
@@tendo649Thats good at least!
@LoneStarPianist
5 ай бұрын
Another interesting note: The developer of Xscreensaver made netscape! That is also the reason there is no windows version, purely from (totally deserved) spite.
@vapor404
5 ай бұрын
after dark is still a favorite of mine its just got that early 90s jank i love
Wha....? RetroGamingNow made a video about a retro topic? Is that legal?
@rexxe001
5 ай бұрын
:P
@glitchy4043
5 ай бұрын
it's almost as if it was meant to be...
@Hamza_Mansoor
5 ай бұрын
ModernReadingLater 😳
@InventorZahran
4 ай бұрын
"I will make it legal..."
@Kwauhn.
4 ай бұрын
Retro? Yes. _Gaming?_ Debatable, but who cares since it was a good video anyway haha
this made me unexpectedly nostalgic for the days of watching the 3D Pipes screensaver with my brother while we waited to be allowed to get on the computer
@stephaniethebatter7975
5 ай бұрын
If you still have an old computer with Windows XP, go get it, find the 3D Pipes screensaver and put it on a USB and copy it to whatever PC that runs Windows you use now.
@undynlicia7554
17 күн бұрын
It was always my favourite screensaver
"3D pipes" was the best. I loved watching them go as a kid
@shardinalwind7696
3 ай бұрын
My god you’re right
The 4:3 resolution is a nice touch in these retro vids. Then again, these old screensavers may look stretched/warped on a widescreen res. I still use screensavers just for fun. I have Minecraft's Bricks, Wooden Planks (floor), and Quartz (ceiling) textures loaded into 3D Maze cos they fit well in it.
@quantum5661
5 ай бұрын
huh, so it is. my monitor actually is a 4:3 hp1702 so i didnt even notice.
With more people having OLED monitors screensavers will come back as these are very affected by burn-in. I have an OLED monitor and am glad there are still some screensavers left in win11.
@Positroni
5 ай бұрын
Probably not, the best option still remains to turn the screen off, especially for batter powered devices.
@Kwauhn.
4 ай бұрын
@@PositroniDepends on the batter. I like pancake for performance, but brownie is best for preventing screen burning.
@yosachaiko9969
4 ай бұрын
@@Kwauhn. I love silly humor like this. Heheh! Have you ever used angel food cake batter? I heard it has good ventilation. ',: D
@DrSpaceman69
3 ай бұрын
@@Kwauhn. i laughed too hard at this.. lol
Wow, I had no idea you were such an appreciator of modern art. I had never noticed the similarities before it really is fascinating once you see them
This guy manages to make the most minute things interesting
@commandercody4927
5 ай бұрын
He can also make anything give me nightmares
Oh I used to watch old screensavers with joy! Always got mad when me or my sisters accidentally moved the mouse lmao
The Backrooms really was a defining cultural event of our era huh
The world traveler screensavers are so surreal. To me they break the unwritten rule of liminal spaces, where pictures of nature don’t convey the feeling liminal spaces normally do. Looking at those images makes me feel like I’m not within the world anymore, more like I’m in the spaces those pictures are, and they have a whole world that doesn’t exist anymore, because they were taken like 30 years ago.
@salam-peace5519
5 ай бұрын
I feel the same type of odd nostalgia for the Windows default desktop images, specifically the "Bliss" wallpaper from Windows XP. Thinking that this was taken on some normal 90s day without anything feeling special about it, but almost 30 years later it feels like a window into another time. Especially because the sky has such a vibrant blue color you rarely see in the sky nowadays, I wonder if this is just because cameras back then took more vibrant pictures or if the sky actually looks less vibrant because of air pollution nowadays.
I started watching your videos for your Minecraft ARGs series, but honestly I really just love hearing you talk about stuff. Keep up the good work, man!
This’ll be a perfectly spooky video… right?
@TheXell
5 ай бұрын
Boo.
@3RR0RNULL
5 ай бұрын
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@retseekerreal
5 ай бұрын
@@3RR0RNULL Boo 2.
@destoyerdj4486
5 ай бұрын
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@Teraticala
5 ай бұрын
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Am I going to regret watching this when I go to sleep? Yes. Will I stop watching? No.
@BeepBoopBee
5 ай бұрын
As someone who should've been asleep almost two hours ago, I feel called out 😅
@Slummy7477
21 күн бұрын
you’re not alone
Great video as always! Nice job putting it in 4:3 ;)
What a beautiful video! I don't have anything substantial to say other than show my appreciation for this video you created. It's a perfectly round package with no "sharp edges" so to say. I think videos like these are close to being an artwork in themselves (in fact I don't think this is even far fetched, as video creation is very much a creative process among some other things). Thanks for making quality content, please never change that approach to content creation.
@paulhudalla9527
5 ай бұрын
Art is simply the expression of human creativity, so this would qualify as art by that.
@HungryWarden
5 ай бұрын
RetroGamingNow doesn’t upload often, but when he does, it’s always a banger.
Its kinda a shame that MS isnt offering 3D Maze in their settings anymore. You have to download it and such but i never forget those cool tours i had in my childhood watching the screensaver going while waiting till the smiley comes. He always creeped me. And even today i feel a bit uncanny watching the smiley for more than ten seconds lol ❤
Surprised no one mentioned these Astro Gemini 3D screensavers that were common in the late 2000s/early 2010s. I remember loving the seasonal ones (there were autumn, winter, christmas, holidays, spring, space and underwater themed ones and some more) and installing many of them on my computer as a teenager (I was around 13 to 15 at that time). These feel super nostalgic now, they look like mid 2000s game graphics nowadays. They always felt like game maps you could explore, even though they were just screensavers without controls. Something about coming home from a stormy, rainy autumn day, sitting on your cozy warm computer and seeing these autumn and christmas screensavers always gave me a very warm and nostalgic feeling. It would be amazing if someone turned these 3D screensavers into a game map to explore or something. There are also some new 3D screensavers with more modern better graphics on sites like 3planesoft or screensaversplanet for download.
Most of these screensavers have so much charm. My old living room pc used to have a multi colored bubble screensaver
My liminal pick is always the Windows 7 Architecture 6 Wallpaper. I always view it as an empty airport, but I really don't know what it is. It feels like a nightmare's imitation of it
omg.. that intro about what liminality is is the most perfect description of liminal spaces are that ive ever heard. I'm a big backrooms guy myself and i spend tons of time looking at liminal stuff, but Ive never heard a better description of what it actually is than that. It's always so hard to describe it since its a feeling you just cant quite place. But thats it, thats it right there. Thank you.
I did not know I needed this knowledge you have bestowed upon us! This is such a cool background look at something most 80’ and 90’ kids know!
A couple years ago in my school suddenly everyone was using screensavers, however most people didn’t really understand what the purpose of one was, and just ended up putting a still image or slow slideshow, like one person who put their screensaver as a still image of hentai with the n word written on the image This video was a really cool dive into what I feel is the most underrated part of nostalgic and old computing
I still use a screensaver on my Windows 10 machine, Ribbons specifically, just for the Vibes. And I can remember a time when I previewed a screensaver of multicolored dots as a kid without realizing I'd put a password on the screensaver and accidentally locking the computer up until I remembered the password... which was "Pikachu", because of course it was. (dw that's not any of my current passwords so I feel safe to share)
@KyanoAng3l0
5 ай бұрын
I'm using the Matrix Trilogy screensaver on my Windows 11 machine, which I've been using since Vista, heh.
@stephaniethebatter7975
5 ай бұрын
It's probably a good thing you still use screensavers. Because even LCDs and OLEDs can suffer from image persistence, which is far more common than burn-in, but thankfully temporary.
@salam-peace5519
5 ай бұрын
I'm using seasonal 3D screensavers nowadays again just for the sake of nostalgia and the vibes. I remember installing these 3D Astro Gemini screensavers back then in the late 2000s which are very nostalgic for me now. Surprised no one mentioned them yet.
Damn... This hits hard. Thinking back, some of my earliest memories involve sitting in front of an old Compaq Win95 custom box my dad built for my grandparents, watching screensavers and playing the JumpStart games.
I like to imagine that the patterns you see when you close your eyes are the brain’s screensaver
@denisekyles4299
Ай бұрын
more of when you rub your eyes too hard
the game "samorost 2" really gives me this feeling of old screensavers, there's something charming about its visual style
I grew up vividly remembering pipes and never knew what it’s purpose was till now
no matter how many videos are made about liminal spaces, they’ll always be great to watch since everyone’s feelings and thoughts about them are so specific to their human experience. love it
I really like the unique screen ratio used for this video
I love it how the video is 4:3 to make it feels like an old video
This has turned from a Minecraft theory channel into a philosophy channel and I love it.
This was really great! I'd love for you to keep making videos on anything else you find interesting -- your presentation is always superb.
This is a really interesting concept. Thanks for another cool video RGN keep up the amazing work!
16:28 YOU CAN’T HIDE THAT DOOM TEXTURE IN THE BACK FROM ME, RETRO.
This video is good to fall asleep because it won’t burn your screen overnight 😂
Incredible video! I'd never in my life think I'd be so invested in a video about(what I before thought was boring) screensavers
do y'all remember when the rainbow bubbles filled up dad's desktop and just sorta bounced around?
3D pipes was personally my favorite screensaver, i would watch it endlessly as a kid
This was such a well written video essay. Very nicely done, I thoroughly enjoyed every second of this.
The second you mentioned After dark and I saw the flying toaster, my mind remembered the After Dark Game collection I used to play. Me and my brothers used to play those games for hours. We always wondered why there was a game about a flying toaster, it looks like the games reused assests from the screensavers.
I came to this channel because of the Minecraft theories, and I'm so glad I stuck around. Hope to see more videos like this one in the future. (Maybe eventually covering more liminality stuff)
Wonderful video exploring a niche subject! love this to bits
I could sit and just watch screen savers for hours. 😂
@user-is7xs1mr9y
5 ай бұрын
Me too, they are so soothing to me.
New RetroGamingNow video holy shit.
Thank you for creating a video about screensavers! I've been trying to learn programming just so I can create freeware (okay, actually donationware) screensavers for anyone who's interested. I remember screensavers from my childhood making computers seem whimsical and otherworldly, and I'm disappointed that they've gone out of fashion. There's this one online "game" called The Endless Forest that was a multiplayer experience that you could set up just as a regular screensaver, but when your computer went to sleep, it would enter the titular Endless Forest. It really got me thinking about what screensavers could be like if we kept developing them.
I'm from the 2010s, so there never was any screensavers on my computers. When I see some of this old technology though, it's a weird feeling. I look into a long gone world, things I can see, but never truly comprehend. I guess it is liminal as it's the end of a tunnel that I can't reach. Awesome stuff as usual, RGN, would be interested to see more like just if it interests you at all
@salam-peace5519
5 ай бұрын
Screensavers were still a thing in the early 2010s though, even though most monitors already didn't need them anymore because CRT monitors were getting very rare already, but screensavers were more a thing of personalisation, comfort and digital art. I remember installing these seasonal 3D Astro Gemini screensavers on my computer in the early 2010s, they feel very nostalgic and cozy now. Actually nowadays I have 3D screensavers installed on my laptop again for the sake of childhood/teenager nostalgia.
screensavers always look nostalgia since they feel pre rendered, even though they seem not to
I really enjoyed this. Great video dude!
Really cool video RGN, I love seeing appreciation for older technology - things that we needed, sometimes still need, but are seen pointless and frivolous now. We'll always be nostalgic for things like this, and I think this video captured it really well.
Liminal spaces are my favorite. I always remember them, 100% of the time. I am actually less likely to immediately forget them!
Well that was actually AMAZING. I'm blown away by how beautifully put it all was, honestly
14:18 got that as a daily Landscapes background on my chromebook
Screensavers may come back albeit minorly if OLEDs become popular enough since burn-in is once again a problem for them
@stephaniethebatter7975
5 ай бұрын
LCDs tend to suffer, too. My gaming laptop is just a sucker for image persistence and screensavers help get rid of that.
Honestly I just fuckin love your videos, they have a certain energy to them that I really really like. Minecraft mysteries are cool, but videos you're passionate about are way cooler. In my opinion, anyway.
Nice video! I loved it!😊
Pipes was my jam.
Bro your narration makes everything scarier, I don't know if I'd be as scared at these type of videos if your chilling voice and that music wasn't playing over it
Great vid, i didn't know i had these on my current compooter
Really loved this video, cannot wait until the next one
Please make more videos like this, I really enjoyed it.
This is such a beautiful vieeo RGN, i love your nonminecraft videos as much as your minecraft ones and can’t wait for what you give us next time!!!
that golden hour screen saver looks like some kind of lost gen z meme format
That was so fascinating, I’ve enjoyed this and yes I remember some of those screensavers
How do you not have a million subs already? Your videos are amazing!
Great video as always!
great video mate, keep doing the thing
Please make more of these kinds of videos. I loved this oje
I still have a screensaver on my laptop to this day. And I actually do kind of need it. Because LCDs are still vulnerable to what is a less serious, less permanent version of screen burn-in, that being image persistence, but it is just as easy to get as it is to get rid of. Screensavers can actually help remedy or prevent it and due to how little time it takes to get image persistence, I have my screensaver turn on after just five minutes of inactivity. And by the way, modern Windows can still at least run some of its predecessors' screensavers, as long as you copy them over from an older version of Windows. So you can get 3D Pipes on Windows 10!
Im so hyped for every video
i get so excited whenever i get a notification for you. you have to be one of my favorite youtubers, every video you make is so interesting and well researched. and the visuals are so well done, the audio is so perfectly curated that i barely even notice it. thank you for making the videos you make. i love this channel
I still put screensavers even if they aren't needed nowadays
"The occasional rat does little to soothe this feeling of isolation" Neither did the advertisement youtube played right after this line 😅
Finally RetroGamingNow making a retro video.
This feels like a Solar Sands video. Awesome job with the narration & music, I've yet to see another person go in depth with the connections between Screensavers and liminality. The resolution of the video is very true, Screensavers served their purpose at a time when they were needed and when the time came, they left us. The new direction in this video is good, and leaves me wondering what other ideas you want to show.
Your videos are the best!
Loved this video!
Nice video, Retrodaddynow!
great video! thank you
you know its a good day then retrogamingnow uploads
This video is pure nostalgia.
Amazing video! 😮
so i heard the overall map of the maze screensaver is always exactly the same. and it's merely the positions of objects and start and end locations that are changed with every iteration
I have always thought of screensavers as the dreamlike state computers have when they're resting, the surreal imagery of the screensavers similar to the surreal imagery of our dreams.
This was both interesting and informative.
What a introspect video! That was great!
I just found out Windows 11 does have screensavers thanks to this video i am speechless
As someone who was born in 94 hearing about screen savers being archaic tech is kinda odd. Also linuex still uses them.
Finally! I’ve always thought screensavers seemed liminal finally a video on them that talks about that
You sir are excellent at being profound, I'm sure if you talked about something as simple as shoes you could give me goosebumps
istg half of the older screensavers look like earthbound battle backgrounds, and i love them.
you're like sunnyv2, you take the most random thing and make a great video about it, while he talks about people you talk about ideas, overanalyzing something stupid like i do sometimes
With the upload of this video, my day has been made.
Oh man I used to be obsessed with Organic Art when I was a kid! It was our first PC around 1998. It had belonged to one of my uncles who was into computers and sold it to my dad. It had a bunch of programs installed, including an emulator for the SNES, the entertainment pack thingy (I forgot the actual name), some educational games, Encarta and Organic Art. I remember there was this astronomy program which had very cool music, an atmospheric kind of music, and I used to have it playing in the background while I watched the cool screensavers from OA. I used to spend hours doing that lol, we didn't have internet back then. This video sure took me back. I wish I could have OA again. I use Linux now and I use XScreenSaver, and it has been like being a kid again in a way.
Well, I have now confirmed that Id watch anything you produce. Anything.
Genuinely surprised you didn’t talk about futiger aero
6:24 I’m reminded of the idea of having a use. A lot of the liminal spaces were familiar with have specific uses, and aren’t filling those uses; the Backrooms is basically an infinite yet empty office space, for example, and an empty airport or shopping mall is the classic example of a liminal space. It’s eerie to see these places totally emptied of people, which contributes to the “liminal” effect 11:30 oh. Yes, exactly.
Makes me want to download a liminal screensaver.
There was one on my dads computer when I was younger of a guy on a deserted island and no matter how long I sat and stared he never got saved, I'd love to find it one day
@b4thedinos
4 ай бұрын
It's Johnny Castaway! I looked it up and found it in one second lol
I don't remember subscribing to you but I love this video