Thank you for making this video. At least 19 of my ancestors were murdered in this massacre. As a little girl, my mother overheard terrible stories.

@DainetheHistorian

Ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, that is so awful. @barbaraheck5638 if you want to share any of these stories with me or discuss your Mennonite ancestry further, please reach out to me at daine7@protonmail.com I would love to talk with you further.

This proves that Hate is the human condition.

My grandma was born in a Catholic German village in the same region. She told me a similar story about what happened to her relatives.

I had a friend years ago (I am 70) who told me about an aunt who always wore a wig. Once, someone asked why she wore a wig, as everyone thought of wigs as a fashion object. The aunt told of a horrible experience when attackers broke into her home, killing her parents. She managed to grab her small brother's hand and run out of the house, but not before one of the men hit her in the head with an axe. Despite this, she managed to get away with her brother and hide in the woods. She was left with a huge scar on her head. Because it would attract attention and demand a story, she chose to hide it.

@DainetheHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh that is so awful. Thank you for sharing this @ImCarolB. Where did this attack happen?

Thank you for the reporting with footnotes!

Thank you so much for making this video. My great grandparents were living in Chortitza at the time and my Grandma said they never talked about it. My great uncle died there, and I wonder if other family members did too. Even though it’s horrible what they went through, it’s so important to learn this history. Did you ever read Arthur Kroeger’s book “Hard Passage”?

Thank you so much for making the video so informative

@DainetheHistorian

Ай бұрын

Thank you @albertatrucker332!

Ha ... jealous of people who work hard and work the ground ??? They would be jealous just long enough to attempt scratching and clawing to make a productive farm, only to find out how this was so hard it should have never been envied.

Very sad. Thanks for the video.

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

Very sad indeed. Thanks for your support @Irminsul3513!

Amazing video, and a great record of Mennonite history with all the detail of names, photos, and so on. It's so so sad what Communist rhetoric has been capable of in the past! Thanks for another great upload

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it @isaweesaw!

This is what is happening in South Africa.

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

Really? What is happening in SA?

@dwork9451

10 ай бұрын

@@DainetheHistorian The South African Communist regime are eliminating the Boer farmers. On the flip side Russia is taking them in and giving them land to farm.

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

That is crazy. I'll have to check that out. Thank you for your comment @dwork9451

@jobloluther

10 ай бұрын

@@dwork9451 It's literally the opposite. Most Boers have fled & continue to flee to the West. Russia directly supported the ANC & exerted diplomatic pressure against the apartheid regime for decades under the USSR. Even today, the very anti-white ANC is pro-Russian, while Russia continues to support them and says nothing in favor of the Boers.

@HAm-ru8qk

9 ай бұрын

@@jobloluther Boers can go to Australia 1919 in Far-eastern Europe has no relation to what´s going on in South Africa now 1917-20 were mostly rape and abortions not an option some of those who came in 1920s from overthere to America did not even knew their biological fathers and later went crazy and pushed for RAcial HOly WAr

Thanks! Very informative.

@DainetheHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Thank you @Zandanga I really appreciate your support!

Great work. Thanks for the information

@DainetheHistorian

Ай бұрын

@midnightblitz8324 thank you for your support.

This the best video I’ve seen my dad was born in that area in September of 1919

@DainetheHistorian

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video @davesawatsky843. Thank you for your support!

thank you bro

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

Your welcome @aslanyo! And thank-you for your support!

I grew up in a town with a large mennonite population and the names quiring and toews were pronounced kweering and tayves. I enjoyed this video very much and have subscribed.

@DainetheHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate the proper pronunciations @Nickifoster-hl3ux noted for future videos! Glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate your support!

@Nickelini

3 күн бұрын

This Mennonite agrees that your pronunciation is correct

Thanks

🔴 What did you think of the video? What would you like to see next? Let me know down below!

@user-rg9yz5ou4y

10 ай бұрын

As may be seen from my earlier comment, it would have pleased me if you had added to these survivors accounts, Machno's self defence against the charges that he was responsible for the massacres. Also, it would be interesting to know if any of the authors of the sources that you quote were ever members of the NSDAP. the SS or the Wehrmacht. That would not mean that their stories were false. On the contrary, it might mean only that their terrible experiences in Ukraine led them to join these organizations in order protect etnic Germans still behind enemy lines. Still, it would be helpful to know whether any of these memoirists had NSDAP affiliations as this would be a possible source of bias.

@BertGraef

6 ай бұрын

Currently reading Solzhenitysns "200 years together". Finally discovered what was really behind antichristian Communism. Sitting at my desk in Winnipeg, reading it from a PFD download, and out my window I have a view of the large " First Mennonite Church" here , built in 1950. Came across this video in my search . Your video proves my speculations and absolutely proves Sozhenitsyn's truths of who and what was behind the general and rapid destruction of all Russian Christianity in those fateful years of 1917. Not only the Mennonite faith , which I think highly of. I will leave it at that. Hope you and everyone here reads Solzhenityn. He was a remarkable eyewitness of all the crimes perpetrated against his nation that had been Christian for 1000 years. If it can happen to them, it can happen to any nation.

@Jymmy.Jymymy

2 ай бұрын

Many of the events of the Russian Revolution have been so distorted through cold war polarization and lies that I have a hard time finding the truth. Thankfully, between this video and some other sources, with Mennonites keeping nice records of first-hand accounts and (as a rule) not liars. I think this is one event I can get some accurate information on.

This is what Trudeau is attempting in Canada! This video is very telling!

@Nickelini

3 күн бұрын

Get help

Thanks for putting this together. Very provocative thought, with the question.. were the Mennonites who practiced defence against arbitrary evil wrong? My thoughts, that when a group has to resort to that.m the best option is to flee. I get that is near impossible though in certain circumstance. I wonder what we will experience in our own times, and how that will look

@DainetheHistorian

10 ай бұрын

Hi @ezrajeremiah8631, thank you for your comment! You bring up a very good question, and opinions certainly differ. It is easy for us, who have never faced these same terrors, judge their actions with hindsight. I actually just uploaded a video about an article written by a Russian Mennonite about this very topic, called "Mennonite Nonresistance Tested by Gerhard Lohrenz", which I think you'd enjoy. Thank you for your support @ezrajeremiah8631 !

I like to buy books.

Interesting, Can you post a history of the US Mormans and the conflicts they had within the US? Do you know who started the conflict? Who was guilty? Thanks.

You probably know this, but I'm reading other accounts which say starving Russians were turned away by this community and some were resentful that they were required to serve in war while the Mennonites got a pass. I do really want to know the truth of all of this and I'm not excusing what happened. Revolution and any type of broad military actions leaves innocent victims. What I do have to say, as a citizen of the USA, what I'm mostly angry about it being lied to about all this by my government. This does cause me to defend the Bolsheviks. But what I also know is they struggled with their collective farms. I've often defended that by saying they started with a starving agrarian society under the czars. They did not have a developed family-farm model like we did in the USA across Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio (many German immigrants including Anabaptists). I still think that is generally true, but here, they wound up attacking a community that could have really helped them devise more effective agriculture more quickly. Do you think that's a fair assessment? I will also note, Jesus did say to sell all you own and give it to the poor. Once in Matthew and once in Luke IIRC. I know that no Christian does that, and I wouldn't do it either. Jesus didn't say it was a sin not to do it, he didn't say it gives anyone license to attack you if you don't do it. But he did say to do it. right? Let's be real here. I don't think you making a video defending property ownership (while a perfectly acceptable political view) is in any way "Christian". Anyway, thanks for the video, this is important for me to learn about.

@ageofadversity

2 ай бұрын

The Mennonites were given autonomy in their village and we're not required to conscript into the military as part of the agreement for them to come and farm that land. Both Catherine the great and her grandson made this stipulation when they put out the call for people in Germany and Poland to come and be given land to farm. keep in mind this was land that the Russians had access to but we're unable to farm and the reason that they got the German farmers was because they were notoriously good farmers able to invent and create new hybrid species that were able to grow in those areas. When Catherine's grandson decided to finally make the germans pacifist be part of the military a lot of them left the country and that's when my family left the country. Also one of the reasons they were targeted was because they were devoutly Christian and all the leader ship or almost all of the leader ship of the Bolsheviks were atheist Jews who became Zionist or were Zionist at the time. They today in Israel spit on Christians and they really despise Christians so that was happening way before the conflict with Christians in Palestine. Ingrid Rimland wrote a series of historical fiction about it called Lebensraum and it depicts alot of what happened. That area was part of the Holodomer which was when the Soviets purposely starved over 10 million people by confiscation of grain, seed and all resources. This was part of the Russian Revolution. Marxist Bolshevism was the cause. It was the largest mass deaths from manmade starvation in history.

@Jymmy.Jymymy

2 ай бұрын

@@ageofadversity My family was also Anabaptist and had difficulty with the state and state church. Partly the reason they moved to the USA in the late 1800's, partly because of the availability of farmland. I'm very sympathetic to these Mennonite farmers, and it's true the Soviet Union struggled with their collective farms. But they grew to lead the world in tractor production. We see in these stories that there were starving people coming to these Mennonites BEFORE the revolution. This should tell you there's a big flaw in your claim that the Soviet's intentionally starved people. You claim 10 million, where did that number come from? Investigate the data objectively and you'll find numbers, claims all over the place. It is very sad what happened to these farmers who could have helped the Soviets feed people, but why would revolutionaries overthrowing a government care what arrangement they had with the existing government? Look, Anabaptists should know as well as anybody the danger of letting the state get into your church. This includes the US government. Are you teaching Christianity to the best of your ability, or are you teaching the US government narrative? One thing that might be troubling to you is the early Christian churches used a very extreme form of communism, everyone who joined sold their property and divided all their money equally. This does not mean all Christian churches should do this I don't think, but it probably does mean when you hear a "Christian" say something like "communism never works" it's a big problem. That's like saying the Christian church doesn't work. It doesn't make any sense. Also, your idea that Bolshevik's were "Jews" is ridiculous. There were all sorts of Bolsheviks. Furthermore, Stalin brought Christianity back. Do you ever hear anyone praise Stalin for bringing Christianity to the atheist Soviet Union? I'll bet you don't. Why not? Maybe the narrative has some flaws, ya think?

@ageofadversity

Ай бұрын

@@Jymmy.Jymymy its called the Holodomer and its very well documented.

@Jymmy.Jymymy

27 күн бұрын

@@ageofadversity The Holodomer is NOT well-documented. The claims are all over the place. The numbers do not align with each other. I'm not a "denier", but if you study this with any honesty you'll see there is a lot of sloppy propaganda/lies. MANY of the lies came from Nazis. If you don't know Nazis were liars yet, you don't know much.

Recent research has partially rehabilitated Machno. Despite his fiery rhetoric , surviving witnesses claim he secretly issued orders to his soldiers to kill only armed men who offered resistance to them, and to spare innocent civilians. They also claimed that the massacres were carried out not by the "regular: anarchist forces directly under his control, but by private Ukrainian armies without any political orientation. Machno, wanted to increase the size of his iforces to aid him his inevitable future confrontation with the Bolsheviks, granted these private bandit armies permission to describe themselves as soldiers of Machno's army. However, he never authorized them to kill unarmed civilians, and passed on to them his same orders to spare unarmed, non-resisting people that he had earlier given to his "regular" troops. When he learned that they were massacring unarmed civilians in order to seize their land and property, raping women, etc. He is said by survivors of his inner circle to have been appalled. He orders several leaders of the bandit soldiers to report to him at his headquarters. When they obeyed his order toappear before them. He conducted a drumhead :trial: and had them all shot. For some reason, he ordered his own wife to shoot them. This at any rate is the version of events that he described in his memoirs, published in France after the war. His surviving followers who eventually managed to reach France or Rumania all backed up his story, Machno's forces, in any case, were not as well disciplined or as effective as a fighting force as these authors believed. They all fled and threw off their uniforms when the Red army moved in to the former Macno-controlled area. They were all hunted down and executed by the Bolsheviks. Only Machno himself and a fewmembers of his inner cercle escaped accross the Rumanian border. and eventually made their way to Paris.

@snipercow861

9 ай бұрын

Yeah i was gonna say this, as a Libertarian socialist myself I think we should learn from these mistakes

They arrived in Russia? "now Ukraine"? It was always Ukraine. and don't forget the priests that the anarchists went after.

@alexeyivakhov6424

3 ай бұрын

Yes, they did arrive to Russian empire.

@ageofadversity

2 ай бұрын

no this wasn't always the Ukraine the Ukraine was just a part of Russia. I know this because my family who were German Mennonites have always historically called themselves Germans from Russia whether they came from the Volga river area or the Molotschna river area.

@Nickelini

3 күн бұрын

At the time it was referred to as Russia. The term is Russian Mennonites, not Ukrainian Mennonites

Sounds like the DNC

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@DainetheHistorian

5 ай бұрын

Christ is King

@ageofadversity

2 ай бұрын

@@DainetheHistorianbe careful a Zionist might come for you like they did Candace Owens.