Usually I buy new mex fenders and upgrade them. Every second hand i bought, even high grade, required substantial repair or parts changes, and that was not obvious at the buying time. Don’t know about UK, but here in Russia i cannot find good things cheap, if it is cheap, there is a reason.

Absolutely great video! I feel the same about many of the mentioned aspects. What I usually did to retain the most value for an instrument, was to buy for example a Fender with a Quarter Pounder for a good price, sell the Quarter Pounder (I do not like them either) and buy a used original pickup. That will be below any used Fender market price.

Haha Tyler the Fender player bass you used as an example was mine which I sold to fund a Pro II - it was a great guitar and only needed a minor set up when I got it new which I did myself . Great channel!

Thanks for sharing this - really appreciate the full breakdown of the numbers. 👍

Amazingly helpful and great video. Every bass player (and instrumentalist) can get something out of this. Really nice work. Really like all your videos, btw. Good stuff.

Good sound advice Tyler!

Bear in mind, you can keep the stock hardware for reinstallation, should you decide to sell. You'd then retain the higher Q upgrades to either sell, or install in your next bass. That being said, the high end Fenders retain more of their value. As always, your insight is much appreciated. I just bought a CV 60's bass (new), and have been considering some of these upgrades.

An even more important video might be how to identify Fender original pickups.

3 go to bass review channels; yours, ed friedland, and empire music. I really appreciate the useful information, classic style playing, and utter lack of hype. I also like DiMarzio pups due to great tonal range and especially the dp123 jazz hum cancel and dislike the QP due to a narrow tonal range and too much output.

Phil recommends to keep the original parts and put them back in when selling the guitar, because mods don't reflect in the sales price. That is plausible to me. You still have the upgrade parts like pickups to und them in the next guitar or sell them separately.

@rl1275

Жыл бұрын

Same thing with cars I don’t want to buy your project

This is written before the video was released. OK, I am a compulsive trader (I guess I will not stop until I have played them all), and I have a general advise. Buy second hand and don't buy the cheapest brands/basses. Take your time and wait for a good deal. Also, stick to the most common brands. If you buy a nice EBMM Stingray second hand for £1K, you will most likely be able to sell that same bass for at least the amount you bought it for. If you buy a new cheap bass, you loose at least half of your investment the minute you open the box. And, as Tyler propably will tell you, if you upgrade the price of your instrument in a best case scenario will stay the same, but in many cases the value will drop. You will never get back the investment and it will be harder to sell the instrument. No one buy your bass because you bought a new bridge and swapped the pickups. In such a case they would like THEIR upgrades, not yours....

@Charlie-hp2oh

3 жыл бұрын

spot on

@shipsahoy1793

3 жыл бұрын

@@Charlie-hp2oh Just remember that if you can’t do a set up and you don’t put good strings on it, then it’s not even worth playing at all ; so you at least have to do that, and I would even go as far as to say that even if you need a new nut, it’s only a few bucks to buy and do, but if you start getting into expensive bridges and pickups and other stuff, yeah, of course that will end up costing more than the instrument itself. I wouldn’t buy any cheap instrument that I’m not confident I can’t do a set up on, or return if new and sight unseen.. There’s lots of playable basses for practice or live floating around that you can get going with for around $200 if you know what you’re doing and smart! Also, you have to be comfortable with anything you personally customize because you will never get back your investment, so even if it isn’t worth it to somebody else, it might be worth it to you, depending on what it is that you’re talking about. I agree with Tyler though, that if it’s going to cost you almost as much to customize something, you just might as well buy something that doesn’t have to be, and the money you spent with probably yield you better resale value. Obviously, doing your own labor to a professional level and the actual parts cost has a lot to do with the results of a pro/con analysis.

@TylerSpicer

3 жыл бұрын

You were way ahead of the curve on this one! Spot on! T

@shipsahoy1793

3 жыл бұрын

@@TylerSpicer thanks Tyler.. I was just sharing my experience and knowledge, straight from the heart lol Ps) been around too long haha ..btw, truth be told, I apologize I missed your live event. I didn’t even watch the video to get your thoughts because I just reacted to something that somebody made a comment about 🤣

New subscriber after watching several of your videos - appreciate the content and presentation style. How do economics work for beginners... buy the best you can afford (stay in the upper end of the market) or go for cheapest way in (US$ 300-$450) because may not stick with it (minimize potential loss)? Any thoughts on whether the cost of buying in impacts whether "stay with it" ... i.e. got $XX in, better go practice? Thanks, Hoog

I have looked into used forums today and literally people try to resell used player basses for 50 to 100 euros cheaper than new. Shipping younhave to pay yourself too.

I bought my American pro 1 p bass new for £1200ish from my local shop in 2018. That’s a slightly easier loss to take than the £600 listed here if I ever sell it (which I don’t intend to). I prefer peace of mind buying new

@TylerSpicer

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good bug my man! Everyone’s always got there preferences when purchasing, so can totally understand that! Most important thing is to love and enjoy your basses! 😃😃😃 T

Great video, Tyler I would love to hear your thoughts on investing in a hardware synth vs using software. Do you consider your Moog as a smart purchase or do you regret it because of limited use?

@TylerSpicer

3 жыл бұрын

Great question! I’m often stuck amidst the two... I love the simplicity of one piece of gear and knowing it inside out, but I love the portability and reliability of software (in general!). Would maybe be interesting as a topic to cover on a broader basis in a video! T

Squier and fender neck wood quality are noticeably different feel wise.

@TylerSpicer

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I feel often there’s an element of compensating for varying quality of wood when the neck finish is as thick as it is on a Squier. The same is true of my Yamaha 611FM Guitar, I’d much rather that were more lightly finished on the neck, but I think it covers for varying quality in wood on the neck of those guitars... T

@iliasliakos6692

3 жыл бұрын

Yee but squiers are great for the money, especially the made in 2020 am thinkin of getting the affinity pj

Impossible to find a second hand american precision in France for 925 pound; the market is too small.

OK, let us see if anyone can beat this one. And yes, I know it is not a Fender... I picked up a handcrafted 1991 Warwick Streamer Stage II for £840 ($ 1170/€980) today.

From my experience as well, Tyler is right you won't make money, you'll lose money upgrading your instrument. Indeed, you won't improve the resale price of your upgraded instrument, however you likely will make yourself a better instrument that is more fun to play. If making money were the reason to get into music, then you shouldn't do it.

The flip side of Tyler's argument is that for the best value for your money, you should buy a bass THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY UPGRADED!

@TylerSpicer

Жыл бұрын

100%! I love a “player’s” instrument - more so as time goes by! Real value to be had, especially on 60/70s instruments. T

stick to classics and nothing can go wrong. you will always be able to sell a fender p, j, stingray, thunderbird, rickenbacker. really cool video btw (and channel generally)

@TylerSpicer

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely! And you’ll have a lot of fun playing all those different feels and sounds too! Thank you for the kind words and watching, I really appreciate it! T

The pickups on the Player Precision is one of the best I’ve tried, and I’ve tried plenty. Conversely, and in my opinion, the V-Mod pickups on the American Professional sounds too muddy and bassy to my ears. Just my 2¢, but overall sound advice. Thanks Tyler!

If your upgrading a cheap Squire Bass. Then No your not going to make up the money spent. But, if you make upgrades to a say an American bass. Then yes it adds value. And you can get the money put into it back.Just look at Fenders American line. And start with the lowest priced American Basses. See why some are more expensive. It’s the upgrades. A Fender Jazz Ultra is the most expensive. Because of the upgrades. Better wood for the neck and body. Better tuners and bridge. Better pick ups and electronics. Maybe a preamp added. That really helps the sound. So your incorrect bass brother On your info.

@TylerSpicer

2 жыл бұрын

Ah… But those are factory upgrades - or ‘stock’ upgrades. Those increase the value as it’s a higher quality bass from the factory. If you’s made those upgrades yourself, you’re devaluing it from a future purchaser’s perspective, be that collector when it becomes ‘vintage’ or the next purchaser. “Non-original” is frowned upon. I personally think it’s great as a buyer (I’ve just bought a Gibson ES333 that’s had player upgrades, it’s amazing!) but you have more negotiating power to pay less as the buyer of a second hand, modified instrument. That’s my take and experience anyway! T

@larsetom1

Жыл бұрын

I hope that's true 'cause that's what I did! I have an American Special Jazz, I upgraded the p'ups, and the bridge (Hipshot string thru) and maybe later I will upgrade the tuners as the E goes out of tune every song. But yeah, you're right, the top of the line Fenders, have similar craftsmanship to just better parts. OTOH, with the upgrades I could have bought the top of the line Fender. OTOHx2 it's fun to do the upgrades, it makes it yours. But like Tyler says, you'll lose money.

I never buy a bass with the intention to upgrade it. Buy the bass you want,dont buy something else and try to make it the bass you want. Sometimes you get a great one but the bridge is shit or the tuners could be better. If you plan on keeping the bass then swap out those things. Why is this such a big thing with the Fender lovers? If Fender is so great why does everyone buy one and then immediately start throwing more money into them? I see Geedy Lee Sig pickups all the time where someone has bought the bass and went straight home to snatch out the pups. Buy a freakin Sadowski-theyve always done "Fender" better than Fender,anyway.