Donna: "Oh my son" Also Donna: So anyways

@chrishandsome4267

3 жыл бұрын

“So anyways I started blastin”

@semerehagos9520

3 жыл бұрын

f

@paxsmile

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that...

@Elayesee13

3 жыл бұрын

Was gonna comment the same thing.

@knightlife98

3 жыл бұрын

Right!? I was like, yeah that seemed super genuine..... She might as well have just said, "I killed my son."

Imagine being an individual with paranoid schizophrenia and actually being right about someone poisoning you.

@tipluxxxx5958

3 жыл бұрын

...and imagine that nobody believes You. 😨

@mid.life.crisis2955

3 жыл бұрын

Boy. Wolf. Cry. Etc. Its a real thing in this case.

@gizemyorganci7486

3 жыл бұрын

Lovely profile photo btw

@mid.life.crisis2955

3 жыл бұрын

@BotanistRM Parkinson good call.

@LadyLeeBird

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.. I wish I could turn back the hands of time and save him. So badly.. She fed directly into his worst fears and brought them to life. As mothers, our job is to eliminate those fears and anxieties.. My 2nd oldest is in his 20s, has anxiety and calls me when it gets bad. I am his calming force. His tie to reality and putting his anxieties into perspective. When my kids were younger, it was my job to hug them and tell them their fears were just that, and would never be anything more, while tucking them in at night.. Not.. this.. 😭

“You had a right not to testify and you’re up here testifying. I get a right to ask you questions whether you like them or not soooo let’s keep going” That’s my boy right there

Her response to “Your son is dead” was fascinating. She couldn’t be assed to pretend to be upset for more than a few seconds

@ritawashere5787

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it was odd. I guess she didn't want to be accused of being overly dramatic.

@willissudweeks1050

10 ай бұрын

I rewinded that a bunch of times and laughed. She’s an idiot

@JellyBeansMystreyMachine

4 ай бұрын

How does the cop not laugh at her terrible acting, is my question.

This woman threw her son away with a coke bottle. Imagine thinking that your son was worth the same as an empty coke bottle. Absolutely disgusting. I love the bitter sarcasm in these videos, but these small details just exemplify how evil these people are.

@lymn2002

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry I don't throw empty coke bottles into nature

@ionymous6733

3 жыл бұрын

She drugged her son, killed him, cut him up, and put him in garbage bags. Is the coke bottle really this thing that shows you how little she values him? I mean, even without the coke bottle we're already down to 0. Hmm.. in my state a coke bottle is worth a 5 cent return. So arguably she valued her son 0.05.

@allygaffney962

3 жыл бұрын

Bottles are worth 10 cents here

@marquisdelafayette1929

3 жыл бұрын

I was watching a Scary Mysteries video the other day about two families who did the same. The friends kept pushing and the cops didn’t listen so they did it their self. And another supposedly family tied one son to the bed for an “exorcism “ . He died of dehydration and THEN they called the ambulance. Like WTF!!

@LeRoyBoxley434

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean "these people"!?!??!?

You forgot to mention she probably killed her husband with a lethal dose of morphine..and blamed her kid for a missing vile of said morphine. The kid blamed her for his father's death. Pretty important info

@pegs1659

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for someone else who thought this.

@wurstbrat.

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't he die of his disease though? Or was that just assumed?

@donaldcornwell6144

3 жыл бұрын

@@pegs1659 ppppp

@donaldcornwell6144

3 жыл бұрын

@@pegs1659 ppppppppppp

@purpleirklegrovestreet

3 жыл бұрын

He died in open heart surgery

when the masked man was supposedly forcing her to watch him kill her son, Donna detailed how horrible it was and how Ramsey desperately called out to his brother as he died. so the prosecuter (mvp) was like, "why didnt he call to his mother who was right there to help him?" fuckin' rekt.

I love her flip from sad to totally normal when she was told they found her son's body, "Oooo my son!" Then, the officer, "Did he have friends in St. Clair County?" Her, sitting up, responding normally, "Not really."

@willissudweeks1050

10 ай бұрын

That was hilarious. She is a jackass

Imagine hooking up with an old flame at your high school reunion only to discover they're a psycho who dumped bags of their own kid's intestines on the side of the road

@LINKYART

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing...wtf.

@ihaveinsomnia1

3 жыл бұрын

Crazy

@michritch3493

3 жыл бұрын

Yeek!

@clydebear6914

3 жыл бұрын

Happens to me all the time.

@kevanbaconofficial

3 жыл бұрын

I hate when that happens.

If someone killed my child and told me to dispose of the body or they would kill me, I’d be dead.

@JessiicahhhTbh

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ashleyostrout4592

3 жыл бұрын

Or they would be dead. Either way I will either die or kill them.

@8bubblez8

3 жыл бұрын

I am going out fighting. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Pretty sure the adrenaline at that point would make me more dangerous than a lion on meth.

@-._.-KRiS-._.-

3 жыл бұрын

@@8bubblez8 ^ This. Exactly this.

@AJ_1namillion

3 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Grace -Well, if that’s true for Nune, it’s definitely true for you as well.

Imagine being Ramsey's brother. All of his immediate family gone. In such a horrible way. Hope he has a happy marriage and kids.

@PintheDog

2 ай бұрын

He does. And he cut off all contact with his evil mother for good.

As the mother and guardian of three adults with special needs, I don’t understand how ANY parent could do this. It makes me furious.

@freedomofspeech766

2 жыл бұрын

Bless you my dear ... there's a place reserved in heaven for people like you.

@themadhi-hatter6849

2 жыл бұрын

Where you think the son got all his mental illness from?

@_Romans10.9_

Жыл бұрын

This has happened to over 60 million babies in the US alone. But the “mothers” are the ones paying the “doctors” to cut up the piir babies from the womb.

@eegernades

Жыл бұрын

Bless you. I could never. If I found out my child would be mentally handicapped and I. Still allowed to abort, thats what I'd do.

@markmike7933

Жыл бұрын

As a son of a mom I drove crazy for decades and made cry with worry way too many nights, I don't understand it either. I wished and told her to let go and just forget about me. She didnt. She couldn't. Things have been ok to even good and sometimes very good now for 20 years. Almost brings a tear to my eye

Imagine being the woman who found the bag with the intestines in it and having the cojones to check out the second bag

@launabanauna496

3 жыл бұрын

I know right?! I mean, after the gruesome discovery in the first bag, what would prompt anyone to even go near a second bag??!! Just, get on the phone and dial 911 already!! Well, now that person has a first hand visual of what a severed head in a garbage bag looks like...something, she can't unsee.

@jean-claudevandammit3371

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand what prompted her to look in the first one 🤷🏼‍♀️

@gabyponte6497

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes when confronted with something so awful..the human mind refuses to accept it initially. She probably felt compelled to do so simply to prove it was not what she thought she saw. Poor lady.

@captainnemolostintheocean1652

3 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering WHY would she check the bags in the first place Maybe 2nd hand free stuff?

@ES11777

3 жыл бұрын

@speedierllama My skin crawls when I think of people like you who think that killing and gutting innocent animals is acceptable and ok. ''It's the intestines of brutally murdered person? Awful!'', ''It's the intestines of a brutally murdered animal? Meh, another Tuesday.'' Disgusting.

She didn’t even bother actually calling his phone to make her story more credible. Thank God most murderers are totally stupid.

@mtaylor7307

3 жыл бұрын

It seems they don't think it threw well enough and then they overthink it. Can't imagine what it would be like to be investigator and here the same crazy cover-up stories over and over again.

@steveolotu52

2 жыл бұрын

The scary thing is they probably aren't. The problem is that only the stupid ones get caught...

@cyndymcfarlin8537

2 жыл бұрын

That does always help

@Azriel884

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveolotu52 yeah man. Its crazy to think about how many unsolved murders there are. Around 40%, i believe is the number, that go unsolved. 😬

@megatherion2695

2 жыл бұрын

Eye mayde aye samwitch ent ayt eet. Eet mayde mee faurt

Criminal tip #1: “The masked intruder did it and I survived, story” works 0% of the time.

The prosecutor is just really pissed at her stupidity, "you had a right not to testify, but you did, i have a right to ask questions and for you to answer them" - SAVAGE!!

15:21. That's the fastest I've ever seen a crying mother regain her composer after hearing her child is dead. Almost as if....she's faking it for the police.

@sunshine3914

3 жыл бұрын

Man, the way she cut it on & off... faster that a high-dollar faucet.

@cherrylee1103

3 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly.

@marcusbordeaux7548

3 жыл бұрын

I laughed at how quickly she regained her composer, it’s so incredibly fake

@drewwilliams1337

3 жыл бұрын

It's a textbook sign of guilt. It's easy to fake an emotion, but it's very difficult to fake an emotion when you're given a task to complete or asked a question. As soon as she was asked a question she lost the ability to fake her sadness.

@Nat-vh1ov

3 жыл бұрын

Came to say this! I was thinking I hope the video is cut and she’s not that stupid 😂

Donna: Oh, my son... Me: Donna, honey, you’re gonna have to hit us with that line again, and this time with a little more feeling.

@D-me-dream-smp

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly who gets accused of killing and dismembering their son and casually says “I guess I better get myself a lawyer”

@janemiettinen5176

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you just cant dig deeper, when you really dont have normal feelings. Like any. In the trial she keeps making the crying face, but no tears, no real emotion behind it. She just cant fake it any better. It was only matter of time she got caught, priceless.

@hamzak2181

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. She needs Quentin Tarantino to bring out the true actress inside her.

@mosa_mm

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@rebeccav4478

3 жыл бұрын

Right? It's like, she didn't even TRY to give a shit.

I’m always amazed when people look in random bin bags. never once in my life have been driving, seen bin bags on the side of the road and though “ ooooo whats in there?” And this happens so many times in these types of cases

@brandyhuff8487

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's probably because she was seen dumping them. There's a Huge fine for dumping around Michigan, if someone sees someone dumping they usually go thru it (if it's in their nosey nature) to find mail or something personal with a name to be able to call cops and get em charged for littering

@brandyhuff8487

2 жыл бұрын

My old apartment complex used to have maintenance dig out bags from the bigger bins and find mail... My ex husband dumped some trash (before I moved there) and mailed it back to him with a warning not to dump there again

@laurahoward5426

Жыл бұрын

Might be kittens or puppies

@laurahoward5426

Жыл бұрын

Conscientious Citizen

@HelloCompanion

6 ай бұрын

The person who found the bags actually saw what was in them because they were so haphazardly thrown on the side of the road without a care. He didn’t say because KZread censorship, but the person calling in the bags said that they drove by and had to do a double take because they saw trash bags with a human head and limbs sticking out of it.

When Mike first said "long term illness" regarding the Dad, my spidey senses tingled. It only went downhill from there. Why are people so awful? What a terrifying and tragic tale.

"You had the right not to testify, and you chose to testify. So I have the right to ask you questions!" Prosecutor is a savage

@shroomer8294

3 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn’t have been caught if she didn’t report him missing and dumped the remains.

@qassandraable

3 жыл бұрын

Prosecutor is a dancer for justice.

@BrickNewton

3 жыл бұрын

He reamed her good. Made her look like a fool

@nycgirltee

3 жыл бұрын

whether you like them or not so let's keep going! 😂 he was on a roll and I loved every minute

@bwb5255

2 жыл бұрын

@@shroomer8294 Just trying to get into the criminal mind, she had to report him missing bc of the probation officer. She definitely messed up with the remains and incriminating paperwork though. Poor fella. I cannot imagine having that woman as a mother or home nurse.

"Please wait for a question to answer.." "Aw no, let her talk..." Prosecuting lvl 9000

@CookieClipsNcrumbs

3 жыл бұрын

@ 25:07 btw :D BOSS move for sure XD

@tp8087

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Newscaster talking about body parts: "Investigators will now be able to PIECE this together" Me: Inappropriate laughter

@leanie9660

3 жыл бұрын

I was phrasing this in my mind to enter a similar comment....cheers

@vickrykayser3129

25 күн бұрын

I know, really poor choice of words.

"Mrs Skrivo, I'm afraid the body we found was your son". "Ooooh, my son! You know, whatshisname"!

This lady is insane. She is manipulative and cruel. I can't imagine someone who could live with themselves after they killed their own son. RIP Ramsay.

@johrathbun

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's like, no wonder poor Ramsay was unstable, look who his mother was!

@ibmor7674

3 жыл бұрын

She’s not even manipulative, she’s totally unconvincing!

@simonlee9993

3 жыл бұрын

What was even the point? Did she get any benefit from this (financial or otherwise??)

@soxpeewee

3 жыл бұрын

People like that can justify anything

@soxpeewee

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonlee9993 control.

"Oh my son!" She says in a crying, whining voice. Police ask, any friends in St Claire county? "Not really" she answers perfectly normal...

@aprilsilvers381

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was so obvious. She isnt a good actress

The sudden change from (fake) grief to just dead pan, cold toned answers was so frightening. It really showed how little she cared about her son and how she had absolutely ZERO remorse for what she did.

Re: his dad. We can cure hepatitis C now. My heart hurts for all those who couldn’t get life saving treatment. Ramsey may still be here as well

@Secret_Soul_Survivor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I had Hep C for 37 yrs and 5 yrs ago I imported drugs from India and cured it. Absolutely brilliant that I got to do that as my brother ended up dying because he'd been drinking with it for decades and he started the drugs but died before he could finish the course😢 It's a shame he lost his Dad who probably acted as a buffer with his mother.

@oncoucharrest5910

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same, very sad.

@paulperry7091

2 жыл бұрын

I miss three people who died from Hep C back in the day - two musicians (shared needles) and one prisoner (shared safety razor, of all things.) All great talents and very amusing.

"We believe it's your son" *Oh, my son* X( "Did he have friends up there?" *Not really* :)

@hei-c4620

3 жыл бұрын

Your use of emoticons killed me omg

@jaysmok2893

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she was clearly.quite devastated by the news.

@madpro8561

3 жыл бұрын

This is the only acceptable use of using X as a pair of eyes. Good job.

@topspot4834

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously ... It's edited and possible she'd been mourning his presumed death since he'd been missing. The video alone wouldn't lead me to convict her one way or another BUT I don't care how much time passed in that edit, a Mom getting news her son died would at the very least have a tremble in her voice or show some emotional distress.

@damienleigh9943

3 жыл бұрын

She was like an NPC from oblivion

I love how psychopaths think we’re stupid.

@deborahsunflower939

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Like tossing the trash bags out on the side of the road! Ummmm.... Black bags on white snow! Guess she outsmarted all of us!

@willissudweeks1050

3 жыл бұрын

It's been especially funny to watch their mass public manipulation fail as hardly anyone trusts major news networks anymore and major networks like CNN are getting trolled.

@beththegreen

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, people often assume because of media that they're all geniuses However while they're manipulative they're often bad at it since their narcissism and delusions of grandeur mean they think everyone is stupid and that they're a genius

@maybelikealittlebit

3 жыл бұрын

Some of us are! Lol that’s why as many as they caught there’s tons or at least a few that haven’t been because they just didn’t have a human “slip” Hopefully we never get robotic psychopaths otherwise we def won’t be catching them.

@amandawilliams2266

3 жыл бұрын

It's as if they have no idea that many have been caught before them! Like oh no I got this they'll never know it was me..

I was half expecting to hear a "clunk" of her lawyers head hitting the table as he just gives up on life when she was digging herself ever deeper with that cross examination and her story 😂

Detective: “We believe the body is of your son” Donna “oh 😐....can’t decide on lunch” 🤔 On another note I love that prosecutor & his one liners 😂😂

It breaks my heart that she would dispose of her son like trash. Meanwhile my mom still breaks down about losing my brother 2 years ago. What we wouldn’t do to have him back with us. Some people don’t deserve kids.

@imthinkingaboutagooduserna8531

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope your mum finds peace someday soon. And you are 100000000% right. Some people don't deserve to have kids.

@flxwercxrpse1871

3 жыл бұрын

@@imthinkingaboutagooduserna8531 thank you, you are lovely💙

@alijeffery1810

3 жыл бұрын

My mum lost her first born, and my brother 17 years ago this year and still breaks down and can't cope because of it. I dont understand how people can do this to their children 😪

@oren1305

3 жыл бұрын

@@alijeffery1810 It's horrific, but some people were never meant to, or wanted, children. I almost feel like more people should be psychologically evaluated before having babies, like for adoption. Also, I am very sorry for your loss, and I hope your mum is doing alright, given her pain.

@mdiddio

3 жыл бұрын

Love to you and your mum, hon. I'm so sorry.

"Your whole testimony has been hearsay. Don't talk to me about hearsay!" Possibly my favorite prosecutor line ever, he's fantastic 😂

@bethbosheers8096

3 жыл бұрын

I was very impressed with this prosecutor’s line, as well! He was treating this evil woman exactly how she deserves.

@sergiol.aponte13

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was channeling Pacino,,, :-)

@peepbo3964

3 жыл бұрын

Prosecutor was a tool though. To obnoxious

@Leoprincess3038

3 жыл бұрын

@@peepbo3964 She killed her kid.....and chopped him up, was he supposed to be NICE to her?

@mattechrome

3 жыл бұрын

He really gave it to her and I loved every minute of it

I don't know what's weirder, pulling over to see what's inside some bin bags on the side of the road, or just driving off again when you realise it's just a bag of internal organs 😅

@Dikvej884iv4

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. She needed to find a head in a different location to call 911. So weird

"trying to piece this together" after the discovery of body parts. someone was looking for a laugh while writing up that teleprompter there's no way that was an accident

@susancaswell3217

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious!

1 second of “crying” & she’s back to normal lol

@countys32

3 жыл бұрын

"Oooh my son", literally one second later "anyway what were we talking about"

@Daemon1356

3 жыл бұрын

It sounded like a hungry cat meowing

@PassTheMarmalade1957

3 жыл бұрын

I know, right? They just told her the dismembered body that had been all over the news was her child, and she acted like she'd just been told her favourite co-worker was quitting.

@Alexander-rh5hf

3 жыл бұрын

Typical psycho killer

@michaelwills1818

3 жыл бұрын

Still a better actor than Nicholas Cage

"he kept me locked up and murdered my son, i was so scared." "he also let me off scot free when he wanted some groceries."

@paintingforpennies9454

3 жыл бұрын

Right!! That doesn't even make sense.

@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, what is the guy to do when there no food she likes in the fridge...sorry he lol

@mtaylor7307

3 жыл бұрын

@@paintingforpennies9454 She doesn't sound sane, either.

@TonyGearSolid

3 жыл бұрын

"He forced me to go to Lowes to buy a saw and then forced me to go back to ask how it worked!" I just hate it when the person holding me hostage makes me run errands for them.

@glow1815

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

Man hearing that Ramsay, 32, was taking his meds and trying to get his life on track hits me a bit weird. I'm 30, turning 31 this year, and I am not a very accomplished adult. Still living with the parents and all that, though I like to think (hope) I am in much luckier circumstances (ideally I don't die after this post lolol). Like him, I also have mental illnesses that had negative impacts on my life, and I didn't have a great relationship with my parents (I kinda still don't, but we have an olive branch sort of as I stay with them for the time being). I started therapy a little over a year ago and it's been helping a lot. I have a long way to go but a whole year made more of a difference that I thought it would; I actively like myself more now than who I was before I started. My mental illnesses naturally still like to pop in to ruin things, but I've been managing them better than I used to. I don't know what's ahead in my life but I feel a little more prepared to face it. It almost feels like I have another chance at life sort of way. So it's extra sad to hear that someone so close to my age, who was also working on themselves and efforts seem to reflect that, only to have it all just...taken away from him.

@MrShigura

2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck, always take your meds if you’re on them and make sure to keep regular visits with qualified professionals no matter how much you don’t want to.

@Yowzer122

Жыл бұрын

Hey. How you doing today @Kaida W?

@willissudweeks1050

10 ай бұрын

How are you doing now? I’m 31 turning 32 and feel the same way. My 20’s were destroyed by going nuts and while it was kind of fun it set me back and now in my 30’s I feel like I have a second chance

@kaidaw6546

10 ай бұрын

​@@Yowzer122 idk how i missed this originally but 9months later reply: I'm doing alright. There's been a lot of changes lately. My brother and I have just moved in together so right now I'm adjusting to that. Still in therapy, still taking meds, and I'll be visiting friends in another state in a month. It's a lot/kind of overwhelming right now due to all that, so some old coping habits come in - but even then I can tell it's nowhere near like how I would've handled this much load prior, which is wild to think about sometimes. Thanks for asking!

@kaidaw6546

10 ай бұрын

​@@willissudweeks1050 Hey I'm turning 32 this year too! I feel like not much has changed since I made that post, but when I started listing out what's been going on now in another comment, clearly, some things have changed a bit. I've just moved in with my brother so we're adjusting to that and still got...lots of unpacking to do... Also got a trip to see friends in a month. I'm still in therapy and still taking meds. Still have things to work on, but even since my original post, I feel like I've made progress mentally. Also still feel like there's a long way to go but I suppose if change/improvements were easy or fast, we'd have a lot more people doing it lol. After I return from seeing friends + finish unpacking, I'm thinking of trying to spend time looking for new work/skills. Thank you for asking! I hope things go well for you on your end. I'm also glad to see I'm not alone.

The prosecution absolutely slaughtered her on the stand, I don't know that I've ever seen such a wild cross examination before. "I wouldn't let you anywhere near my kids, lady." Is one of my favorite lines from him lol

that lawyer is so animated i love his ENERGY

@deborahsunflower939

3 жыл бұрын

Look how bored she looks as he's berating her.

@crescentmoonchild4031

3 жыл бұрын

Look likes Einstein

@sergeantspeed5941

3 жыл бұрын

@@crescentmoonchild4031 I thought so too lmao

@nestedstop

3 жыл бұрын

He talks a bit like Al-Pacino.

@PinkSlippers70

3 жыл бұрын

Bill Cataldo is a fantastic prosecutor...another great trial with him as prosecutor is the James Vankeller trial...he murdered a 14 year old girl...the trial is on youtube...it's fantastic

This case hits really hard, a vulnerable person being killed and then gruesomely disposed of by the person they trusted most 😔 RIP Ramsay

@Evanz111

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I was a pretty healthy person until whilst at university I became disabled. My mum took me in and looked after me, and the thought of someone in her position being able to do something like this is horrifying.

@AndyBonesSynthPro

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a doozer

@flyingtentacle7631

3 жыл бұрын

tbf, he didn't actually trust her at all. He thought she killed his dad.

@amber_Forever16

3 жыл бұрын

Elena Johnson he didn’t trust her

@lindamaemullins5151

3 жыл бұрын

@@flyingtentacle7631 I was thinking the same thing 🤔

I like that prosecutor. He’s animated and not boring like so many others.

Scrivo means "I write". And donna is also Italian. Her name is "woman, I write".

@vaguemartin

3 жыл бұрын

Murder, she wrote.

@deanandruth7439

2 жыл бұрын

@@vaguemartin Ha

@freedomofspeech766

2 жыл бұрын

Yes ... Mike said 'scrivo' meant 'to write' ... 'scrivere' means 'to write'. Woman I write my own fate.

@Sofia-tf4ic

2 жыл бұрын

@@vaguemartin I was just about to put that 😂

“They believe it is a single male man.” Rock solid journalism

@syljm515

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you was scrolling through comments to see if anyone noticed!

@haywoodjablome440

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I don't know how they figured out he wasn't married either.

@ZimtPorridge

3 жыл бұрын

@haywood jablome hahaha, I don't know if you're joking but they meant that it's just the body of one person and not several.

@GioMarron

3 жыл бұрын

Best part... he was never a mailman 🤣

@dinkledankle

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZimtPorridge "male man" is the point of contention. It's redundant.

This case highlights that people with mental health issues are often vulnerable to abuse by their “care givers”. Mental illness is frequently stigmatised and those affected painted as dangerous when the reality is that they are more likely to be victims than perpetrators. It doesn’t help that it is often misused by defence attorneys in order to mitigate a criminals culpability. That awful woman probably abused that poor kid all his life and may have contributed to his issues. I feel so sorry for Ramsay - can you imagine the torment of not being able to trust your own senses and judgement due to schizophrenia and then having to deal with/process that your mother is trying to harm you as well as knowing people are unlikely to take your concerns seriously. Torturous.

@ejc1692

3 жыл бұрын

Mental health issues or not, he was dangerous... not taking his meds, assault, fights, etc. I have diagnosed mental health issues and yet I know better to leave people alone - I don't act out in anger nor put myself in knowingly dangerous situations. Having mental health issues does not mean one is not dangerous (nor is) nor is protected from culpability for their behaviors nor from criticism. I do not ever advocate the killing of another human being unless it is solely as defense for one's own life in immediate jeopardy. However, unless you personally have had to be surrounded by, living with or legally responsible for someone with mental illness as severe as his, then you have no clue what that is like for the average person - the toll is horrendous. This does not take away from his mother's evil, but comments like yours are one-sided and unrealistic. RIP Ramsey.

@amityislandchum

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejc1692 You're absolutely correct. This is exactly why we need better (i.e. universal) healthcare in the US. Most families don't have the resources, knowledge, or patience to handle caring for a severely mentally ill relative for life. 50% of schizophrenics in the US end up homeless because of this.

@TK2692

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejc1692 For someone who claims to have diagnosed mental health issues, you sure seem to like to contribute to the stigma that continues to harm people who suffer from them. Masha Spikego did not claim that "Having mental health issues does not mean one is not dangerous (nor is) nor is protected from culpability for their behaviors nor from criticism" so I don't know what you're going on about. They were right about what they actually did say; that people with mental illnesses are often vulnerable to abuse by those who are supposed to take care for them, that statistically they are more likely to be the victims of abuse than the perpetrators of it, and that stigma of mental illness often portrays people with mental illness of being inherently violent and dangerous.

@rebekahfield4083

3 жыл бұрын

Schizophrenics can tell you very intelligent things, because they are Demon possessed; and Demons feed them intelligence.

@TK2692

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebekahfield4083 They are not possessed by demons. Please stop believing that and saying that. They are human beings who are suffering from a condition through no fault of their own and they need understanding, compassion, and assistance.

She is terrifying. Something about her eyes......I feel so bad for her son. All those troubles on TOP of having an evil mother. And now her eldest son has lost literally everyone. It's just tragic :(

That woman reminds me of my mother :/ I don't think she killed anyone herself, but she can be tied to at least two people's deaths in the 80s. She took my sister's kids from her by claiming my sister was on drugs and would leave them home at night by themselves. My mom did this after the last of us moved out and she could no longer get section 8 housing or welfare. My mom saw my sister's kids as huge money grab seeing one of them was born deaf, one was born metal handicap and the oldest was diabetic and had ADHD. my sister had to fight for years to get her kids back. Then after my sister got her kids back, she went after my oldest sisters kids and did the same thing

@willissudweeks1050

10 ай бұрын

Lol that’s CRAZY what a huge B holy crap. How was she tied to deaths?

The woman that pulled over who spotted the trash bags along the side of the road must have been terribly inquisitive because most people would just keep driving.

@catdooley4616

3 жыл бұрын

Where I live many would stop and pick it up to take to the dump, because we don't like garbage on the road. We also don't live where we have road crews to do this , we have litter plucks several times a year to clean up our roadways.

@DennisTea

3 жыл бұрын

It's sad, but a lot of people put puppies and kittens in a bag or box, then put them in the road or throw them out their car window. To them it's easier to do that, than it is to take care of them or find them a home. I saw a car hit a bag in the road one time, and I'll never forget the whining sound the puppies made. Now I stop to check any bags or boxes I find in the road. One time my friend found a box of kittens in the road on his way to school, so the principal let him bring the kittens to class so that he could take them home with him later. It's better to waste 30 seconds checking, than it is to wonder if you let small animals get murdered for a week afterwards.

@enzomaidana5369

3 жыл бұрын

I would have had followed and blackmail her until the cows got to new zealand.

@annika_panicka

3 жыл бұрын

After opening one and finding human body parts, did she really need to inspect the rest before calling the cops? 😳🤢

@BlisaBLisa

3 жыл бұрын

@@annika_panicka I was wondering if she didnt call the police right away because she thought they were animal intestines, like waste from a slaughterhouse or just a dead wild animal decaying or something, but then idk why she stopped to check the other bags if she didn't suspect something bad...

The very sad things about this, is she was likely the cause of ALL his issues, and he never could get away from her, -her control, blaming, guilt games. She messed the poor boy up all he wanted was his mother to love him, instead she killed him. POOR BOY. :(

@tiquismistica9417

3 жыл бұрын

This. If this is true (which probably would be because most of the times people have mental issues because of their parents and circumstamces in the family) she sounds like someone with narcissistic disorder. A narcissistic parent causes so much pain to the kids, they will always say for your own good, they want you to be better, and you try to please them but is NEVER ENOUGH. They start by controlling you, and id you don't do what they say or start to confront them, they beging with the guilt trip and NEVER aknowledge their faults. And because they are The Parents, brcause they raised you and had you, it means that you have to live for them and they have your life in their hands. This woman took it literally, the guy wanted to get out of her grasp and she decided to end him because his life was hers.

@angelabroman18

3 жыл бұрын

@@tiquismistica9417 Yes, it's true and tragically sad. Maybe not an excuse, but definitely a reason.

@davidolofsson6928

3 жыл бұрын

And possibly made him take pills since his youth

@johannak1983

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think someone's behaviour can cause schizophrenia.

@angelabroman18

3 жыл бұрын

Well no, but I do feel that often from serious abuse, trauma and emotional confusion many a so-called personality disorder has presented from it or added to the severity of them on their spectrum, then chemical and other body chemistry factors in too.

I just cannot fathom how the jury avoided recognizing all the reasonable doubt created by such a believable story. ;-)

"Donna Mama" - I just love you, Mike! You always sprinkle in bits of humor and fun comments while simultaneously keeping a respectful tone. You're a very talented man! 🙂

that prosecutor just wasn’t having it. he tore her apart. 😂😂😂 also the angry face she was making as he talked just disgusted me.

@elenajohnson6336

3 жыл бұрын

He makes Juan Martinez look chill haha, I love an angry prosecutor

@loobielou6965

3 жыл бұрын

Literally tore her a new one eh.

@penguinthing7742

3 жыл бұрын

He looks like Einstein

@christinamitchell6796

3 жыл бұрын

She didn't look so much angry as she did stupid, she knew what she was saying it was a load of Bull so she had a stupid look on her face. Her own body language gave her away.

@OffTheWagons

3 жыл бұрын

Love seeing it

Definitely a psychopath. She doesn’t know how to act remorseful or even cry- she has zero emotion. Very chilling

@razztazz1982

3 жыл бұрын

She couldn't even fake cry when they told her they found her dead son.

@citizenvulpes4562

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my son

@zachweaver599

3 жыл бұрын

Pills will do that to people. Take away all emotions

@ScrappyKitty15

3 жыл бұрын

Total psychopath.

@AlexanderNash

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine doing this and not practicing to at least attempt to be convincing.

I always wonder what people could possibly be thinking during these crimes. It's so sadistic. I can't even imagine. There is no place for this kind of evil in a regular functioning society.

I've had issues with mental disorders after some major events, nobody believed me when I would describe my mom. Eventually they did, and finally got her sober and help she needed. She's much better now.

That prosecution lawyer is having more fun tearing that story apart than I've had in my entire life.

@redwallace

3 жыл бұрын

Her defense attorney just silently let it happen...

"Nobody could think of a motive" - I think the female officer nailed it during the interrogation. Donna wanted to get rid of a burden to get her life back.

@cocolime6496

3 жыл бұрын

Which is particularly infuriating when you think of how much a burden she was to ramsey

@TheGrmany69

3 жыл бұрын

More like she wanted to dispose of him out of pure hate because he defied her nonexistent authority over him.

@Christopher-Lenz

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Life insurance & fresh start in her hometown is my guess.

@soxpeewee

3 жыл бұрын

Control freak-killing someone is the ultimate decision. Also she could play for sympathy.

@computeu

3 жыл бұрын

She’d found a new love and Ramsey would’ve jeopardized that new relationship on several levels. She never liked Ramsey, husband/protection was gone; motive. Simple. Surprised Mike didn’t connect the dots on the motive issue. 😎👍🏻

I hope the Woman that found Ramsey is alright! How Terrifying, and Heartbreaking!

The choice of a jigsaw for dismembering someone has really stuck in my mind. It seems like such an odd and non-optimal choice. Was it just the first power cutting tool she came across?

@SueP-D

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Wouldn’t a chain saw have been better? (God I can’t believe I just said that)

@pickledragonrebel

Жыл бұрын

@@SueP-D lol

@vickrykayser3129

25 күн бұрын

Maybe it was the cheapest.

The prosecutor seemed like he didn’t take his meds that morning and didn’t drink his cup of coffee ; and that’s a good thing, he ripped that stupid wench crone to shreds.

@deadinthewater218

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@lilmentor3

3 жыл бұрын

I was watching with caption and I can tell you without a doubt, that dude wasn’t having it at all.

@killertrip10

3 жыл бұрын

"sustained, but do not argue with the defendant."

@cameroncurtis7002

3 жыл бұрын

That wench be on that bench

@michellecollins2438

3 жыл бұрын

6

“We know you are not a bad person...” police talk when they want to butter you up. Lol

@charlieapples9373

3 жыл бұрын

For real. Many police officers do feel sympathy for some of the people who they arrest, human-to-human, but it’s their job to get you to confess and accept their decisions. *SAY NOTHING.* *GET A LAWYER.*

@pursang833

3 жыл бұрын

It shows how smart these people think they are. A normal person would hear that and see it for what it was, then call a lawyer before saying another word. The murdering psychopath thinks they'll just toy with the person and laugh internally. Dear psychopaths, you aren't always the smartest person in the room.

@jupiteral8217

3 жыл бұрын

also "maybe he just killed himself, right?"

@Christopher-Lenz

3 жыл бұрын

@@pursang833 not true. Even innocent people continue talking to the detectives. Edit: bastard cops are trained to manipulate people.

@evertonc1448

3 жыл бұрын

Look for the video "never talk to the police". Needless to say, never talk to the police, call your lawyer.

Ppl like me who’ve lost (and still grieve)a son and you learn about something like this. Makes one wonder who we walk among on a daily basis

Detective: "We know you're a good person." Donna: "I'm screwed!"

Imagine birthing a child. Raising them until there older and then hacking them to pieces. The insanity it takes to contemplate let alone follow through with it is unfathomable.

@melanie6296

3 жыл бұрын

Why would anyone sane person imagine that?

@glocktopus23

3 жыл бұрын

they’re*

@NotAnotherKuromi

3 жыл бұрын

@@melanie6296 Because many sane people like to study unbalanced people who are very different to them, so they don't understand the mindset. They gain insight & understanding into others who aren't sane. It helps them understand the world around them, as well as stay more safe & healthy.

"Don't talk to _me_ about hearsay, Your _whole testimony_ is hearsay."

@alexandersalmas21

3 жыл бұрын

I saw the bailiff was amused by that, too. lol

@zebratangozebra

3 жыл бұрын

Think I know who the masked man was, was an Indian named Tonto with him ?

@sarahhirshlee

3 жыл бұрын

@@zebratangozebra what...???

Thanks Mike for your hard work ..your videos make my day easier to bare .

1.6 million subs! Congratulations 👏 from Ireland 🇮🇪 I love your videos, keep em coming and thank you 😇

i did not know prosecutors could actually act that way in a real trial lmao. What a badass

@whiskeylullaby5707

3 жыл бұрын

They can ask questions however they want within reason of course

@cc99556

3 жыл бұрын

Most judges wouldn’t tolerate this conduct from a prosecutor. Lecturing, arguing with and cutting off witnesses mid-answer is improper. Judges tend to stop that crap sua sponte.

@rebeccav4478

3 жыл бұрын

@@cc99556 yes... I just commented on another thread that the prosecutor was being a dramatic dick at times. Esp annoying when he'd yell at her and then turn toward the camera. Like freaking Matlock- atty- drama, but IRL.

@BiLLz66614

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccav4478 and she didn’t deserve that why?

@rebeccav4478

3 жыл бұрын

@@BiLLz66614 where did I say she didn't deserve it? I'm saying it was annoying to me personally. Bad acting.

"Its your son" "MY SON!" Breaks down Gets asked question *PERFECT COMPOSURE ACTIVATED*

@wolfafterdark

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't even manage fake sadness. Too obvious. Sick. Sick lady.

@iainronald4217

3 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of that "Oh, no! Anyway..." meme, like it was a dead-ringer to have the voiceover placed on top of that clip.

@nikkipizzino

3 жыл бұрын

U

@ohno8398

3 жыл бұрын

I was actually wondering if it was a weird edit for a second before I remembered that this woman is awful

@lizzyvont2362

3 жыл бұрын

@@ohno8398 it was an edit but she IS truly evil too...

I really enjoy Your videos, very informative. and You have a great memory to do them, I always look forward to the next video...because I know You will state all the facts accurately, Keep up the great work, because I will be watching for the next one....I can truly say Mike, that your videos are not boring in any way....actually better than most, they keep me coming back...

The idea of dismembering a family member is just mind boggling. Donna should have been Chandler Halderson's mother.

Her face during the court interrogation, like she's trying so hard to look like a pained/upset person that she just looks constipated.

Why doesn't *NETFLIX* pick these up and pay Mikey to do em? I consume a *TON* of true crime across all platforms, and these are by far the most entertaining and well put together. I don't know what kinda resources Mike has, but just imagine if he had basically an unlimited budget and endless resources at his disposal from one of these streaming platforms!!

@violette80

3 жыл бұрын

He s absolutely fantastic. I love how well researched his facts are and his “easy-going” way of telling those stories almost seems like he’s talking directly to each member of his audience. He knows how and where to be funny without ever disrespecting the victim. ❤️

@caribbeanjackson5215

3 жыл бұрын

I been looking for THAT CHAPTER TO BE ON ALL STREAMING SERVICES. Mike is the best

@nae5866

3 жыл бұрын

@Omuwa 323 bro no

@KaitlinLuksa

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf the quality would probably go down if it was in Netflix, unfortunately. :/

@herrschmidt5477

3 жыл бұрын

sadly there would most likely be a riot bc he doesn't delivers it like it were his own family that got murdered. Bet many many snowflakes would be butthurt. Better keep it like this...though i sure would be happy for him if he went out with some bags of cash.

You know, now that I'm thinking about it...I've seen a lot of trash bags on the side of the road in my life and NEVER had the urge to stop and open one up...

your charisma really makes me not get really really scared ahahahaah thanks for giving me a chance to watch your vids at night w all lights off

Why didn’t she get rid of the guardianship if she no longer wanted to look after her son, there are organizations and people put in place to look after people like him, they’ll even help him live an independent life on his own while making sure he takes his meds and get the help he needs, what she did was so unnecessary, it’s like she wanted to control him but not have the responsibility of looking after him, this case disturbing as hell man, absolutely sick, I couldn’t do that to anyone than alone my own child smh

@eloahnon4952

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if she was getting a monthly check for him being under her "care"? I'll I know is she is a massive POS.

@bokani79

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if she had life insurance on him

@markmike7933

2 жыл бұрын

Some people can't take not looking like the perfect mom/dad. She was probably upset that people would talk about her if she left him. So killing him was the other option. I know some narcissistic folks who wouldn't go this far, I think, but would rather die before being thought of as less than perfect.

@rebeccagreene3271

Жыл бұрын

Love this prosecuter he needs to prosecute every murderer 😂

@chainamarie03

Жыл бұрын

She's a major fruitcake...and even too lazy to come up with a story that might have made a little sense .

I feel her. Last night some masked man broke into my parents house and stole a bar of chocolate. Now I get blamed.

@pokerface7840

3 жыл бұрын

😁

@annemiekvdbos

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you hate it when that happens 😅

@MyPlantsAgainstTheWorld

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been 10 minutes since I read your comment and I’m still laughing

@Boertje247

3 жыл бұрын

😄

@Leobae8

3 жыл бұрын

LMAAAOOOOO same thing happened at my house 🤦🏻‍♀️ and guess who they are blaming? Me idk why though 🤷🏻‍♀️

That women looks evil. If evil has a “look” she looks scary.

I was not expecting to hear an Oblivion Guard in this! That’s hilarious!! 🤣🤣

Police: “Did he kill himself and you disposed of him out of shame?” Donna: “No, that’s not plausible, it was actually a man who broke into the house and hid in my car and made me do all of this and and and and...” ...she got lobbed the softest of balls and not just missed but missed so hard she spun out of the park.

@candirockstar135

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously

@amityislandchum

3 жыл бұрын

No, she wasn't being lobbed anything. That's an extremely common tactic police use to get suspects to start confessing to what they believe is a lesser crime. If the suspect does that, then all they need is to get back "cause of death" as "homicide" from the coroner and the entire legal case has just been served on a platter.

@audreymuzingo933

3 жыл бұрын

@@amityislandchum Exactly. And in this case, besides the copious Xanax in his system, he had the signs of strangulation. It's feasible that he could have hung himself, but she'd have to answer really fast what he tied the rope to, and they'd probably be able to tell if that structure had had a giant man hanging from it, etc.

@audreymuzingo933

3 жыл бұрын

@@dootdoot94xo44 Nobody said they were on her "side." Admitting the suicide/disposal thing would give her the FALSE sense of an easier lie to uphold than this absurd "intruder" one, but of course that would just trick her into at least admitting her own decision to dispose of the body. And really if she HAD done that, it might have secured her with a relatively short prison term, if the police couldn't also get her to admit to murder (and they couldn't prove it). But....and this is what the OP is saying ..... by sticking with the whackadoodle story with ZERO evidence to support it, then the only logical truth was that she murdered AND dismembered the victim. You need to tone it down with the "wtf you're talking about" stuff anyway. Sorry if you 've had some sh!tty treatment from cops, but that doesn't mean everybody else thinks cops are teddy bears.

@sliceoflife8107

3 жыл бұрын

JCS "This is what the how and why solution"

Prosecutor: "Ahh no, let her talk" He was happy to let her dig her own grave haha

@megg.4108

3 жыл бұрын

Well she didn't dig the first grave so....

"...Ahhh no....let her taaallkkk...." This dude is awesome 🤣👏👑

Love you and your work cx keep it up!

She's so irritating even the prosecutor was yelling at her.

@karaleetrapp

3 жыл бұрын

@Zippity Dodah, that is your opinion. In my opinion, the prosecutor did an awesome job of tearing her story apart. Which just happens to be his job.

@BudhagRizzo

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he risked flipping the jury by badgering her and he's kinda lucky the evidence against her was strong.

@karaleetrapp

3 жыл бұрын

@Zippity Dodah, I am.not American. The job of the defence lawyer is to object, whether there is actually something to object to. Also by yelling at the murdering "mother", the prosecutor was trying to trip her up in her lies.

@karaleetrapp

3 жыл бұрын

@@BudhagRizzo, if the prosecutor was badgering her too much, the judge would have constantly pulled him up on it. The judges' role is to make sure that both lawyers do not bully any witnesses or criminals.

@BudhagRizzo

3 жыл бұрын

@@karaleetrapp It's the Defense's job to object to the badgering. Perhaps it was the Defense's intention to make the Prosecution look bad by allowing the badgering, because honestly they really didn't a good case.

I absolutely love the way the prosecutor is yelling at her 😂

@justanothernguyen2334

3 жыл бұрын

He's attackin' it

@blazefairchild465

3 жыл бұрын

The Judge should have kept the prosecutors behavior professional. She's a rotten pos but they still have to follow the rules of the law & have good behavior in the Court room.

@michelledan7218

3 жыл бұрын

@@blazefairchild465 ehh she deserves it

@bravingthehallways8169

3 жыл бұрын

Super dramatic hhh

@blazefairchild465

3 жыл бұрын

@@michelledan7218 not the DA s job to punish anyone before they are convicted, I said she is a pos. She will be in jail for life once the jury finds her guilty. You can't have lawyers acting like a fool in court. What if she was found not guilty ?

We love you Mike snd thus channel is AWESOME;!🇫🇮

Also who the hell sees big black plastic bags on the side of the road and is like "Oh! Hey, great! Trash bags! I gotta check this out!

@staciicats7330

2 жыл бұрын

😂

Detective: Your son is dead. Donna: Oh no! ... Anyway.

@elmariekotze5379

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I noticed that quick recovery as well...

Everyone: We know you killed your son but tell us your story Ramsey Mom: It was Colonel Mustard in the Observatory 😑

@loveforeignaccents

3 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@wgdavidson9669

3 жыл бұрын

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@sashaelton2696

3 жыл бұрын

With a candle stick

@yvonnemurray4101

3 жыл бұрын

Conservatory with the lead piping? No it was obviously Rev. GREEN , IN THE LIBRARY WITH THE DAGGER.( OR WAS IT???????)

@HB-yg3ke

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment

The unbelievable stories people come up with never cease to amuse me.

"Scrivo" actually means "I write", not "to write". That would be "Scrivere".

Ah, I can see this woman went to the Diane Downs-Susan Smith-Leticha Stauch-Jodie Arias school of acting.

@kristinae.7084

3 жыл бұрын

With private acting lessons from Dalia Dippolito.

@spicybrown75

3 жыл бұрын

I shouldn't chuckle but this comment made me chuckle.

@bigredswife4646

3 жыл бұрын

@@spicybrown75 me too hon!!!

@sisu4134

3 жыл бұрын

LMFAO 😂 for real!

@vincenttapia2105

3 жыл бұрын

This is a knee slapper

this is a terrible, horrifying case, but the zoom in when the cop said "somebody's SON" had me cackling

Ha ha ha, "A masked man snuck in and did it then left" was the exact excuse I gave my parents when I was 4 and they were trying to get to the bottom of the missing cookie from the cookie jar case.

@thatchapter will you do a video on the unsolved murder of JoAnn Romain Matouk from Michigan? It's been over ten years since her body was discovered. My aunt was friends with her. It would mean alot to us and JoAnn family if you did a video on her. It would be an interesting case for you to look into. Thanks.

Yo that prosecutor went off holy shit

@jaebrowne6780

3 жыл бұрын

Love that shit felt like a movie

The poor lady that found his head. She has to be scarred for life!

@NecroLiquor.

3 жыл бұрын

Who does this, though!? Who stops on the side of a rural road, nearly snow bound, and looks in discarded trash bags? Omg! That's just asking for trouble. 😳😭 Treacherous, nasty mother.

@wildanh7806

3 жыл бұрын

That feeling when she realized what intestines she found before😬

@keelinday6073

3 жыл бұрын

@@NecroLiquor. That’s a good point! Maybe she was one of those people that picked up litter from the ditches 🤨

@keelinday6073

3 жыл бұрын

@bob builder there’s a difference between garbage picking and going through a bag in a random ditch but okay lol. & you don’t know anything about my socioeconomic status so not sure why you feel the need to bring that up 🤷🏼‍♀️

@NecroLiquor.

3 жыл бұрын

@bob builder I grew up salvaging things from dump yards and evolved into dumpster diving for furniture when I was young enough to not mind to mending and clean up, so I didn't mean it to come across as being snooty. It's just there's salvaging and recycling and then there's neighborhood nibshitting. 😉 The lady wasn't suggested as doing anything other than looking into the discarded bags. Luckily, she wasn't collecting them or doing a highway cleanup, or everything (evidence) may have been contaminated.

There are three kinds of people: 1) people who wouldn’t open the bag 2)people who would open the bag 3)people who, AFTER FINDING INTESTINES IN THE BAG, decide to OPEN THE NEXT BAG!!!

Excellent Mike