As a German, it is hard to see so many German car manufacturers breaking apart. VW biggest problem was their over-reliance on China, while offering Western consumers not what they wanted. VW cars are nowadays overpriced unreliable cars

@andrzejnadgirl2029

13 күн бұрын

I would also add - simple reliance on brand prestige and reputation without maintaining it. VW approach towarss buisness in last years looked like they wanted to close down and cash in, their buisness approach didn't had any long term perspective involved. It's really shame when it comes to Eurooean automotive state nowadays and that Chinese brands are serious threat to it's position. And it's not because Chinese started making so great cars all of the sudden...

@wizaaeed

13 күн бұрын

Vw still better than throwing all your money you ever made just to run a 5.5 mercedes or bmw engine

@dalecooper9942

13 күн бұрын

You got that one right: over priced and unreliable.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

13 күн бұрын

Frammdo, you are missing the point. Volkswagen have all but ignored the EV revolution. By 2030, petrol cars will be totally obsolete, and with it, nearly all of the legacy car market which VW depends on will no longer exist. Germany and VW only have themselves to blame for their dire predicament, as German society and industry chose not to stay relevant with modern times.

@Florian_Kiel

13 күн бұрын

Betonung auf überteuert!

Car buyers don't give a sh*t about ''Diesel gate'' they want a reliable car with some useful tech at an affordable price!

@josht8299

13 күн бұрын

Literally. Idk why people think the average consumer remembers or even cares about that. Give a car with nice tech, reliable at a great price and they will come and buy your product

@user-nu1wp4pw9o

13 күн бұрын

I care. Why would I give my money to a company that cheated emission standards? Many consumers do care, and we shouldn't discount them. They're part of the set of forces which incentivize companies to behave. The same could be said of Boeing and the 737 Max. Yes, your chance of being killed on a Boeing plane is super low, much lower than being killed in a car crash. But consumers choosing to avoid the Max (and Kayak making it easier) puts pressure on management to change the company or resign. I'm about halfway through my life and haven't become jaded yet. Just hoping to make it the rest of the way some idealism still intact.

@PhillKaggitz

13 күн бұрын

Exactly, I couldn’t care less about their whole diesel gate thing, I just want an affordable car that is not going to break down in two months

@mikepalmer2219

13 күн бұрын

I want a care I can work on if it breaks down.

@andrzejnadgirl2029

13 күн бұрын

It's not just dieselgate though. VW bribed automotive magazines in Germany so those lied about VW cars performance and reliability kn favor of VW. They have really bad press overall.

You know that something is very wrong with a company if it offers a subscription plan for heated front seats for $6.99 a month.

@mortenh.o.703

6 күн бұрын

Now McDonalds do the same for a 18 Dollar-meal

@OffGridInvestor

6 күн бұрын

And for $20 you can go buy a cigarette lighter heated front seat cover. I literally have one in my spare linen cupboard.

@crazyfroggie6546

5 күн бұрын

100 bucks a year for having a warm bum during winter months.

@adamesd3699

Күн бұрын

Seriously? Dang! When did they start doing that kind of crazy? I’ve owned several VWs over the years. All of them were great and relatively simple. But something went wrong with VW. I test drove an ID.4 and hated it. Complicated uncomfortable mess of a vehicle.

You can afford to lose money but you cannot afford to lose reputation

@ayoCC

13 күн бұрын

More like, reputation is a currency you lose slowly and nothing happens, until the losses happen all at once.

@umtatraining

7 күн бұрын

German engineering will never lose reputation - don't go by all the media hype about 'Dieselgate' - media has a habit of over-dramatising everything.

@marufbepary100

6 күн бұрын

@@umtatraining There was time in up until the 80s where German cars were known for the reliability and quality. That level of quality and reliability does not exist any more. Mercedes took the biggest hit out of the Germans. I personally own a Lexus IS and my friend used to own a BMW 3 series and that car started developing random issues and annoyances even after being serviced well. Because of that, for long road-trips we use the Lexus, sure it doesn't feel as fun and dynamic to drive but at least we can count on it to get us to places. Also the leather is better on the Lexus. He now has an Audi A4 which he got recently. Germans car used to have the reputation for luxury, reliability and quality. Now it's just luxury.

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

@@umtatraining It's too late for that, and there was no "media hype" about dieselgate. It was corporate criminal fraud of the highest level. Not only did the conspiracy cause 11,000,000 of VW's products to produce 40 times more NOx emissions than permissible, it gave them a massive and very profitable edge in the market. And let's just think about those numbers for a moment. 11,000,000 x 40. That equals 440,000,000. That's about one third of the world's vehicles. Yes, VW was contributing 1/3 of the world's vehicular NOx emissions with just 11,000,000 cars. Staggering, isn't it. And it was all by conspiracy within the company to do so. Criminal conspiracy. No media hype, here, just facts. And as far as German engineering never losing its reputation, the rot has set in. From disgruntled owners to JD Power surveys, time and time again... problems with German cars. Time and time again... far fewer problems with Japanese cars. My family always had German cars when I was a kid. I learned to drive in a '63 Beetle. My Father owned two Audi's when I was a kid, Mum owned a Passat and a BMW. I've personally owned 5 VW's and 3 Mercedes. The final straw was that ridiculous piece of rubbish W203. I won't bore you with the dramas that several of my friends have had with VW's and Audis in the last 15 years. Rubbish cars, with rubbish reliability, exorbitant prices, terrible aftersales service that depreciate like a stone. I'm glad that I got to sample German engineering when it had a good reputation. I'm also glad that I've got two Japanese cars in the driveway. And as far as VW is concerned... Never again. They're corporate criminals.

@chevy4x466

6 күн бұрын

@@umtatrainingthe Obama administration screwed vw in favor of the Asian and American makers that did the same bogus thing. It was criminal what Obama and his buddies did to vw. Also many Americans lost jobs cuz of it. Vw had a huge center in auburn hills Michigan. The left wing epa has killed the American auto industry too. Unlike the broad sword they took to vw, it has been death by one thousand cuts for the Americans. The big 3 could not offer American consumers what they wanted cuz they had to pad their lines with high mph models that didn’t sell

that Volkswagen vs Tesla at the beginning tell you one thing.. Tesla is still massively overvalued

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

😂

@the0ne809

13 күн бұрын

elmo created a cult. so far it has worked well.

@loremipsum384

13 күн бұрын

@@the0ne809 elmo 😂😂😂😂

@Arigator2

13 күн бұрын

Tesla will be bankrupt in 5 or 10 years. Electric vehicles were a mistake. Toyota is winning.

@ikarus605

13 күн бұрын

They are valued based on there potential and with that in mind the stock price is justified. They are doing great in energy storage, production, margin and to this day there is no competitor even close to the development state of FSD. If, and remember I say if, they mange to make the first certified Level 4 Autopilot on the market and find a way to licence/sell it to other manufacturers the company is undervalued. I know the next sentence sounds a lot like a fanboy speaking, but it is true. Tesla is more than just a car manufacturer. What brings me to Volkswagen, they are basically only a car manufacturer, focusing heavily on ICE. They have poor vertical integration, almost no inhouse Software (I know they are working on that but just last year they moved the goal of havin a standardized software across all brands from 2025 to 2030), outdated production methods and no manufacturing for batteries. Hate or love both Volkswagen and Tesla, but one company is going into the future, while the other is still living in the past, trying to stay relevant in the future. They are to big to fail and germany wont let them down, but I expect them to make heavy cuts. I wouldnt be surprised if there is no Seat/Skoda anymore 10 years from now and even Audi will most likely be cut down to some luxury vehicles.

Well, quality of VW went down the drain years ago.

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

😢

@MetaView7

12 күн бұрын

VW engineering is unnecessarily complicated, resulting in many small and annoying malfunctions.

@LynxStarAuto

12 күн бұрын

@@MetaView7Thats not accurate. These cars are fairly simple. Unless you're talking about a specific niche offering, but VW doesn't really have complex offerings anymore. That's left to Audi and Bentley. The problem with VW has been their cookie cutter approach to everything. The same 3 color exteriors, with the same 2 color interior options. They don't even include floor mats with the cars anymore. And then, they went all in on EV's, when that was the biggest money grab scandal of recent times. Just wait a couple of years until we get the PBS documentary on the green movement scam...

@Jushwa

11 күн бұрын

And they killed their Motorsport division.

@lukeclifton4392

11 күн бұрын

@@LynxStarAutoVW engineering is definitely over complicated and is ruining reliability. I seriously question why Skoda vehicles are far more reliable than VW… and can only come to the conclusion that Skoda software is more basic/under tuned, leading to the better reliability rates.

As former owner of 2 Golf GTI’s, I will never be going to VW again. They;ve totally over-priced themselves out of any residual customer loyalty.

Anything Volkswagen made after Piëch sucked.

VW has issues going much deeper. The Name Volkswagen are two words. Volks (the people) Wagen (car), literly translated it means the peoples car. That's how they stared after War with the Beetle, then the Golf...etc. All these cars where cars people could afford, as a middle class family your first point of contact for a new car was VW. Now VW thinks they are some kind of hip brand, the Golf which was always the car for the people, is extremely expensive. The family car (Passat) is a joke for that price. They have forgotten their roots, and now people don't see them anymore as first point of contact for a car in Germany.

@Olterior

12 күн бұрын

^ This. In Lithuania, When I was growing up, You basically went VW for reliability. You knew that if you drive VW, you will be ok. If you couldn't afford VW you went for an Opel, and hoped it was one of the good ones. People stayed away from french cars, and american cars. German and Japaense cars are the ones you see that are 30+ years old still on the road. Meanwhile nowadays, I fear buying a new VW. I feel confident driving a KIA EV more so than an id.4

@preke953

12 күн бұрын

Basically what happens if u let shareholders grip a company that sells actual irl products.

@Dufffaaa93

11 күн бұрын

If you cant afford VW then buy a Škoda

@OffGridInvestor

6 күн бұрын

They're trying to grab on to this "German cars are high class luxury" thing. But they NEVER WERE a luxury car brand.

My engine light is permanently on.

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Not surprised haha

@HeathenScents

13 күн бұрын

Das Auto! 🛑

@PopeDope69-420

13 күн бұрын

I’ve learned that German car sensors just tell you when to spend $150 on new sensors. Nothing has ever actually been wrong with my GTI. The car is great except for that.

@rufuspub

13 күн бұрын

It is supposed to be, I would be concerned if it was not.

@Lvvcassss

12 күн бұрын

Then...fix your engine?

Am I the only person that wants less tech In cars. Honestly just a Bluetooth connection to the sound system would be enough for me. I would love to do a classic car conversion for this reason alone

@Rusty_Shackleford099

13 күн бұрын

You aren't the only person. There are a lot more of us than many realize. And every time someone takes their car in for an infotainment system repair only to be told that the the parts are no longer available or that the repair will cost more than the car is worth, our numbers grow.

@diamondminer8577

13 күн бұрын

Absolutely true, i find enjoyment in cars with not much technology

@evangellydonut

13 күн бұрын

my 2020 Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0 infotainment (and creature comfort) system is about as technologically advanced as my 2009 Cayman S with a new head-unit... and that's exactly how I wanted it. Driving dynamic is the only real upgrade.

@Alexsdiver

13 күн бұрын

Exactly! No need for so much tech. It’s taking driving pleasure away.

@omeryehezkely3096

12 күн бұрын

It is usually called "being old". It is the part of life that usually comes prior to death.

Their new EV’s look more like a child’s tennis shoe than a car

@divyanshbhutra5071

13 күн бұрын

Gosh I can't unsee it now 😂😂😂😂

@Jeez001

13 күн бұрын

Problem is they are all based on same platform so Volkswagen must appear little bit cheaper so it doesn’t take market share from Audi

@gdutfulkbhh7537

12 күн бұрын

EVs were the ONE opportunity for VW to rehabilitate themselves after Dieselgate. Cheating on pollution was bad enough, but taking back my VW and 'fixing' it in a way that crippled its fuel economy, and paying no compensation in Europe... VW poisoned their brand. I will never buy another ICE car from that group of companies, but I might have considered a battery vehicle... if all their offerings weren't such a hot mess.

@divyanshbhutra5071

12 күн бұрын

@@gdutfulkbhh7537 Fair... Whenever a brand starts relying on their brand name to sell products rather than on the strength of the product, know that the downfall has begun.

@bman977

12 күн бұрын

​@@gdutfulkbhh7537 they didnt pay in South Africa and some of their cars have hit the million bucks mark

All automakers that bet heavily on EVs are doing poorly. Toyota is doing well because they spend zero money on EVs and instead went with the much more economically viable hybrids. VW not only made a mistake investing in EVs but also 'modernizing' things that were their traditional strengths. The cockpit of the Golf 8 is absolutely dreadful and because they stopped developing their ICE engines it is mechanically still the same as the Golf 7, only cheaper made. I'm a big fan of the brand, have owned 3 of them and currently own a Golf 7 R (which is truly brilliant), but having test driven the current model I would never consider 'upgrading'. Ferdinand Piech dying was really a major loss to the company, the 'forward thinking' MBA types are running VW into to ground, breaks my heart.

@arnoldmbuthia2687

13 күн бұрын

BYD is essentially an EV company. A new EV company.

@FizzyGajing

13 күн бұрын

Dude, at least think first before you type. A lot of Chinese companies are EV. Also, you're not arguing that Tesla is a goner just because of one poor quarterly earnings, right?

@saellenx3528

12 күн бұрын

​@@FizzyGajingTesla stock crashed from 400$ to 180$ as of right now. Cybertruck turned put to be garbage and Elmo bro sold 40B of his own stock. Bro is begging Buffet to buy Tesla stock these days.😂😂

@FizzyGajing

12 күн бұрын

@@saellenx3528 Oh no, Tesla stock crashed😲, Im shock. Look, I know that Tesla stock declined but it's not performing poorly as the OP mentioned. Tesla's growth is not meeting investors expectations but they are still profitable.

@evitoonbundit2453

12 күн бұрын

So you overlook Tesla the ultimate bet on EV producing profitable, at scale, the highest market cap, soon delivering fully autonomous driving?

Sad to say as a previous VW owner that their cars in terms of design and quality are now probably inferior to Renault. A few years ago that would have been unimaginable.

@Olterior

12 күн бұрын

Grew up a VAG fan. Mk1,2,3 Golfs, Passats, Corraddos, Sirroccos, all of them loved them. B5.5 Passat with a PD130 was a unit. MK5 Golf GTI to this day is my favourite car. Driving a Skoda Scala right now(family life) and eyeing up an octavia RS Estate right now. But sad reality is that even as a fan I can't disagree. Why would you go for VW today? 1. If you want an EV, go with Koreans or Tesla or Volvo(Polestar) or if you want cheap value, chinese EVs like BYD or MG 2. If you want an ICE car, why would you ever go for VAG? Their newer engines are nowhere near the quality of the engines from the 90s or 00s 3. If you want a hybrid, Japanese cars(toyota, Honda) are far superior. So ultimately I fail to see a reason to get a VW today, It does not provide best EV experience, It does not provide the best ICE experience, it does not provide the best drive experience, it is not the best value proposition, it is not the best luxury product, and it sure as hell isn't a Premium Badge like their AUDI or Lambo divisions.

@yordangrigorov6

11 күн бұрын

What's wrong with Renault, I'm driving Arkana and it's much better car than VW Taigo

@Dadniel1st

8 күн бұрын

Bingo! Nissan qashqai Renault engine 150,000 miles no issues, vw transporter head gasket blow up after 130,000 miles.

@yordangrigorov6

8 күн бұрын

@@Dadniel1st Fun part is Nissan tried to split their business from Renault, but now plan to purchase hybrid engines from the new Renault Geely joint venture called Horse 🤣

@aaronbryan5095

6 күн бұрын

​@@yordangrigorov6 they missing the 'Manure' part behind 'Horse'

The correct answer is that Volkswagen need to lean more heavily to their sausage production

China was major source of sales and that is falling due to their EV shift

@IamAWESOME3980

13 күн бұрын

Lmao

@andrewtate5252

13 күн бұрын

Their EV "shift" in china crashed. Sales are down 40% and the trend is downwards

@Arigator2

13 күн бұрын

China is a scam. They will let you invest money, steal your tech and then push you out of the market with government intervention. People are finally realizing.

@marczhu7473

13 күн бұрын

And Russia market loss

@Yattayatta

12 күн бұрын

@@andrewtate5252 As someone that lives part time in China, EVs are doing great, but they reached a bit of a saturation point, the economy over there is also doing poorly at the moment so more expensive cars are not selling all that well. Make no mistake though, EVs are very popular in the Chinese market, it's really easy to charge in all of central and eastern China, you find them all over the place.

They had cool looking cars but I never met anyone in Canada who did not regret owning a VW.

In germany we say: "Totgesagte leben länger"

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Hahaha, had to translate that one

@toyotaprius79

11 күн бұрын

In Ireland we say, "They're never not at it again"

@stevenweiss2148

9 күн бұрын

??? we dont say things like that here

@ct4074

8 күн бұрын

Nazis keep coming back from the grave. They're now a plague in Ukraine and the USA.

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

In Australia we say "Bring back the German cars from the last century". German cars have a deserved bad reputation, here. It's not helped by terrible after sales service. And yes, I've owned a number of them, as have several of my friends.

One concrete example: building the ID Buzz with a built in bed and not including a camp mode such that ppl are literally resorting to putting bricks on the driver's seat to keep the HVAC from turning off (which still eventually turns off anyway)... 🤦‍♂️

@jasonmugridge

11 күн бұрын

And it should of been about half the price to begin with.

@dukehong7491

11 күн бұрын

Dog mode ftw!

Volkswagen dropped the ball on the Mk8 GTI (which is the only iteration of the VW Golf still sold in the US) They removed the manual parking brake and gave it a really cheap interior. I’ve had an Mk7 and still have my MK 7.5 GTI Autobahn. I was wanting to get the newest GTI, but then I test drove one. The interior felt like the inside of a 8yo Ford Focus, with a very laggy infotainment system, and incredibly annoying haptic touch buttons on the steering wheel. Considering the price was much higher than the previous generation, it was a no-brainer to just keep my MK 7.5. This led me to believe that those in charge of new models do not know what the consumers want. My 2019 GTI is still under warranty, but I have not been given any updates on the 3G sundown… Which means I no longer have connectivity (remote access) to my car. I was told that I would get a 4G or 5G modem for my car in fall 2021… Then spring 2022… Then spring 2023… And now there is no mention whatsoever on fixing this. Even my local dealership in McKinney Texas, give me a definitive answer on when this can/will be fixed. This blatant disregard for the filling their current consumers concerns, tells me that I don’t want to buy another vehicle from them. My current GTI, “Wadsworth”, will most likely be my last Volkswagen (unless they do something about their business propositions)

@sizif717

12 күн бұрын

Try the latest Honda Civic.

@a_macaulay

12 күн бұрын

I agree, I've owned every generation of Golf (mk1-7) and both cabrios and the A3 hatchback, got into the mk8 and said no way. Very disappointing, I ended up buying a Mercedes instead.

@Jushwa

12 күн бұрын

as a mk7 owner, same here. Saw the new Civic SI hybrid today with 200hp and 50mpg... I have loved this golf so much but honestly the new Civic might be the next move if mk9 or mk8.5 continue to follow this trend.

@oxaile4021

11 күн бұрын

I'd argue the mk7.5 was the best looking Golf generation VW had made. And now we have the mk8... Boring, dull, uninspiring, ugh. Also their EVs... It's like they're intentionally trying to convince people EVs are bad and they should buy one of their ICE models instead. I was considering the ID.3/Cupra Born. But then i saw the BYD Dolphin coming to my country, went to see it and any will to buy the ID.3 disappeared immediately. Now i own a BYD Dolphin and whenever i see an ID.3 on the road i just think to myself: why would anyone buy that?

@desireemeiring5763

5 күн бұрын

I gave up on GTi and got me a Volvo Hatch, a wee rocket that’s small but beautiful. I am on Volvo number 2. I love her. She not as quick blah blah blah but ticks all my boxes.

A bad rep is hard to repair

@Anirossa

12 күн бұрын

just like a Volkswagen.

Range is only an issue with EV because of charging time. I Never put a full tank of gas, but it takes me 2 mins to fuel up. Once EV solves that people will use them.

@rodh1404

13 күн бұрын

Charging time is only one of the problems with EVs. The cost of battery replacement, combined with how easy it is to damage the batteries, is another. Even if you can get 15 years of service out of a battery, if the cost of replacing it is more than a the car's worth, most of the time that car will be written off. Many repairers frequently recommend writing off EVs when they could be repaired which significantly increases the cost of insurance. Then there's the battery fires, which happen less frequently than with ICE's but they are very hard to put out. To the point where many fire departments often just let them burn out rather than trying to put them out so just about every battery fire results in the car being written off yet again. Finally, there's the issue of publicly available charging facilities because not everyone can charge at home. More dependable (and less expensive) charging infrastructure is needed, but that can cost a lot of money to set up and currently the profits are relatively low.

@Rusty_Shackleford099

13 күн бұрын

@@rodh1404 You are quite correct. Those are all serious problems with EVs as a platform. But most consumers don't stop to think about things like those until after they have bought the car.

@Yattayatta

12 күн бұрын

@@rodh1404 I agree with your assessment, I'd add that any ICE car that has an engine that shot is in the same sorry state though, that also goes for the gear box, if your gear box goes, the car is done. EVs don't have conventional gear boxes, so there are some upsides. The batteries are way too fragile in some EVs though, that is for sure.

@rodh1404

12 күн бұрын

@@Yattayatta Yes, repairs that cost more than the vehicle is worth, whether that vehicle be an EV or an ICE vehicle, will usually write that vehicle off. The difference is that the cost of repair for an ICE vehicle is often much less than the cost of replacing an EV's battery. For example, if you need to replace the engine on a Toyota Corolla, I've seen quotes ranging from $1,500 to $4,500. To replace the battery of a Tesla Model Y would cost somewhere between $14,000 to $20,000. I've seen a news report from Canada where someone was quoted over $60,000 (Canadian) to replace the battery pack of a 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 which cost $55,000 (Canadian) brand new. Those are the prices when the work is done professionally. With an ICE, there are a number of people who have the tools and capability to do the job themselves, saving a significant amount of money. But with EVs, the job usually needs to be done professionally because most people don't have the skills or tools, and you don't want to make a mistake with that much electricity on the line. Particularly when some mistakes will start a battery fire or short out your vehicles' electrical system.

@jmarxful

6 күн бұрын

Filling up my EV takes me 15 seconds. Or the time to plug it in when I get home. Sure it actually takes 7 hours but it happens while I'm sleeping so I don't notice it lol. Since I live in Hawaii and I have solar panels my electricity is free. In fact I actually make money off my panels when I have excess electricity to sell back to the grid.

VW TDI drivers were probably the most loyal, most brand-ambassadory customers in existence. That positivity rubbed off on the non diesel equivalents. Failing that group was a mistake.

Passat interior in 2012 is much better than the brand new 2024 like how can you go worse when designing vw interiors...

@Olterior

12 күн бұрын

And 2012 Passat( B7) has much worse built quality than their B5.5 or B5 models. The last somewhat premium Passat was B5.5 before they decided to go cheepy with the materials, and electric handbreak that broke on every single one of those passats. Passat back in early 00s/90s was a seriously nice car. Nothing overly premium, but nothing cheap.

In Germany automakers they’re very rigid, stubborn bordering on arrogance and will cause losses to save or push egos. Every time , seen this in first person. Very sad.

I don't mind VW. However, what is really maddening is the penalty they paid to the USA (dieselgate) is a lot more than what they paid to other countries. Would I buy a VW? No.

@thiagolima5232

10 күн бұрын

many brands make diselgate

@RUHappyATM

10 күн бұрын

@@thiagolima5232 I don't see the USA imposing huge fines on the other companies.

@almac9203

8 күн бұрын

​@@RUHappyATMVW was ripped off. They had unexplained variances between real world emissions and offical figures but they weren't the only one with Mercedes and some French and Japanese manufacturers also having the same issues. The main difference was VW admitted their wrongdoing whereas the others lied and refused to admit the truth. Other manufacturers also got fined but they got fined small amounts because it was difficult to prove the source of the variances. If VW had done what other companies did they wouldn't have got fined such huge amounts because the investigators couldn't find the offending software without VW admitting it. You would be surprised at the number of other manufacturers that got away with similar crimes.

@RUHappyATM

8 күн бұрын

@@almac9203 BS. SW can be analysed.

@almac9203

8 күн бұрын

@@RUHappyATM it can be but it is very difficult without their cooperation. If you don't believe what I say then go and look into the variances between the official figures and real world figures across other manufacturers fleets at the same time as VW. I recall something like two thirds of the cars tested had unexplained variances between the official figures and tested figures yet VW was the only one to have the book thrown at them. I will give you an example, some of the Mercedes Benz Euro 6 vehicles were found to be equipped with emission cheating devices according to the Stuttgart court. This came out in April 2024. Renault is another brand that had emission scandals as well. BMW were also accused of Emission scandals as well but they denied it. Go through your favourite car company and search if they had an emission scandal and you will see similar accusations but only VW were stupid enough to admit it.

I had bought a new vw polo 2 years ago and sold it recently ..never ever going back to a vw again ..

@talion7268

12 күн бұрын

U gotta elaborate more, we're planning on getting one

@The1enemyy

10 күн бұрын

​@@talion7268😰

What happened was they've forgotten the golden rule "keep it simple ,stupid" you can't own one without the dash constantly lit like a Christmas tree problems,problems, not much but!!

After doing research for months, I made a $1M investment return and spent $360K on a bentley GT, did only 200 miles before the check engine light came on, now they can’t take it off, VW's issues with software add to the mess

@AlexMorgan-ti6nv

13 күн бұрын

Totally agree, their software issues are a big problem even on the Audi’s. You spoke about returns. Are your results really based on research or luck. how can you tell? I’m also an investor often, luck is not given its credit.

@GoryNych-ru3op

13 күн бұрын

You can tell if its not just luck by its consistency. research was the challenge until it led to Emily Ava Milligan, a top fund manager, her strategy made 320k into this and counting.

@AlexMorgan-ti6nv

13 күн бұрын

I pasted her name into my browser, and her page popped right up. I quickly realized how popular her sessions were. I wish I had your example earlier. Thanks for the share

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Oof

@Jushwa

12 күн бұрын

@@LogicallyAnsweredYou're replying to/ got fooled by a bot/scammer 😆 even hearted the comment. Read the replies.

Short sighted ... The stock price is a poor indicator of success 😢

Nobody mentioned Volkswagens most produced inventory item yet? Allow me... It's a sausage

@c0d3warrior

12 күн бұрын

Is this still true though? (I most like was 10 years ago.)

@johnnyr.6320

6 күн бұрын

You can buy the sausage and the ketchup in a lot of North German supermarkets. Not bad sausages to be honest. VW's canteen was highly regarded for the sausage which they made themselves so the head office saw it as an opportunity and they sell well.

Diesel-Gate actually made me respect them more.

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

😂

@abigaelbalbuena1917

11 күн бұрын

I'd love to hear your thought process on that one

@thiagolima5232

10 күн бұрын

very brands make diselgate

@guser7137

5 күн бұрын

@@abigaelbalbuena1917 It was not about skirting the regulations. It was about the company wanting to be able to exit diesel and write off the loss. The point of the emissions test is it targets a specific performance criteria. It is optimal conditions. Cars all do that. That is why you generally can't see similar economy in a vehicle on the road.

@isabella3746

Күн бұрын

Being able to intelligently adjust your car's performance to road condition is an extremely valuable feature. Too bad it's used in emission tests.

German automotive industry collapsing? What could possibly go wrong? It's only involved in 10% of economic output. Nothing to see.

@itstuffiwan4997

12 күн бұрын

Under 5% GDP and around 7% of the workforce actually.

@PhilippBlum

12 күн бұрын

@@itstuffiwan4997 30.10.2022 ntv Title: "Vertreibt die Energiekrise die deutsche Autoindustrie?" Quote: "Hier werden immerhin in Summe über alles 20 Prozent des deutschen Bruttoinlandsproduktes (BIP) und rund 10 Prozent der industriellen Wertschöpfung erwirtschaftet." 20% GDP in 2022 and 10% industrial

@PhilippBlum

12 күн бұрын

@@itstuffiwan4997 I can only find this number for 2017. The share may have increased.

@itstuffiwan4997

8 күн бұрын

@@PhilippBlum Zahlen haben eine Bedeutung. 10% economic output sind nicht 10% der industriellen Wertschöpfung. Die Industrie macht ca. 24% des BIP aus. Laut dem Münchner MIWI Institut sind es 5% des GDP und direkt und indirekt 7% der Beschäftigten. Und die Frage ist, ob du nun aktuelle Zahlen nimmst, vom Peak von 6 Millionen Autos aus deutscher Produktion sind wir weit entfernt. Die Industrie macht sich in ihrer Außendarstellung größer als sie ist. Ja nach eigens in Auftrag gegebener Studie packt man den Maschinenbau mit dazu bei der Wertschöpfung oder zählt die Beschäftigten der Werkstätten und Autohäuser, die eben nicht verschwinden, auch wenn wir keine eigenen Autos bauen würden wie andere Länder. Und die großen Gewinne fuhren die Deutschen Autofirmen schon lange in China ein, mit Chinesischen Arbeitskräften für dein Chinesischen Markt. Das Ergebnis ist, dass dort nun das Know-how ist, und wir von anderen Märkten verdrängt werden und bald auch hier Konkurrenz bekommen, wie vorher durch die Japaner, nur mal 10.

I had a 2011 5 Cyl 2.5 Jetta. It served me well for 10 years at which point, every noise seemed to cost an arm and a leg to fix so I traded it in. It did serve me almost trouble free till that point for 235,000 miles!

Stock prices between American companies and the rest of the world is meaningless. The entire market cap of all of Germany corporations is less than the market cap of Amazon. The US stock market is absurdly overvalued.

@linearcannon5078

12 күн бұрын

Not going to argue that US stock is overvalued, but German corporations are not doing fantastic either.

@foca2002

11 күн бұрын

@@linearcannon5078 yes but they value dividends more than stock valuations, here in Brazil is the same thing.

I don't see the EV market really taking off without government push. The real solution at this point I believe is hybrids.

@philallen7626

12 күн бұрын

It needs a huge push on charging infrastructure, I'd argue that is where governments should focus their efforts. I'm a bit wary of hybrids. Modern cars are already hard and expensive to repair. The added complexity, with a lot more stuff being crammed into engine bays, will push up repair costs even higher, and resulting in shorter working lives vs straight ICE cars (Toyota, and probably Honda, excepted).

@yulusleonard985

12 күн бұрын

Lol it depends on your gasoline logistic. Some countries no longer able afford gasoline import and you either drive EV or get a bike.

@PearComputingDevices

12 күн бұрын

@yulusleonard985 I am talking about in America. That's probably somewhat true of places like India and hey there's a market for it. But it's not remotely the kind of market many had been lead to believe and that's my point here. It's obvious to me, has been long before now too. It's just not practical for most here in America, thus it's not worth the cost and effort. Still isn't. I think it's mostly affordable battery technology that holds EVs back. But they'll still sell where it makes sense. Where they don't they won't and they basically haven't. Not much of a shock.

@yulusleonard985

12 күн бұрын

@@PearComputingDevices yea I know you are American when talking about EV without mentioning insane logistic of gasoline. Because countries are pushing for EV not because environment but they just want too stop importing gasoline. Batteries already affordable as long you can import them from China, since its $55 for each kwh over there.

@PearComputingDevices

12 күн бұрын

@yulusleonard985 You live in another world. Our options are vast but definitely not that cheap for sure. I am talking about the realities in America. Especially rural America because that's my lived experience. We don't need to worry about the insane logistics of gasoline. We're basically walking on oil. Most people don't remotely need to worry about such things, yet in many poor countries its a daily struggle. I get it. Just as I also said EVs will sell where they make the most sense in a free market. If it makes sense to buy one people will and if they don't, they won't. Even in our metropolitan areas they're not selling so that's why EV makers are struggling and again this was just common sense from a supply/demand perspective. The early adopters already bought their toys and now things are a bit stagnant. People are just now discovering what I've been talking about for over 3 years. If anything we have an over saturation of supply verses demand. But in other countries where it makes sense maybe that's not the case there. It's just markets figuring things out.

Couldn't be more off base about just taking an ICE vehicle and "convert" it to electric. The vehicle has to be engineered from the ground up. Outside looks the same/ not the inside.

@nsk370

13 күн бұрын

Clearly a guy that doesn't really know much about automotive industry

@peglor

13 күн бұрын

Even when they engineer the car to be electric from the ground up they still can't seem to do it without losing the space to store the spare tire, which is a fundamental requirement for anyone that actually uses a car for what it's good at, namely getting people to places well outside urban areas that are not served by public transport. Imagine willingly signing up to make a 10-15 minute delay to change a flat tire into a multiple hour delay waiting for a call out. The tire sealing kits from what I've read about them, write off the tire (As well as ruining the wheel balance), and are only a get you home measure rather than a fix. Every car I've owned has a spare the same size as the rest of the tires so there's no compromise at all in swapping it out, and it's come in useful enough times that I'm happy to keep it that way.

@Yattayatta

12 күн бұрын

There are conversion kits sold for old ICE cars to turn them into EVs, they work quite well.

@oxaile4021

11 күн бұрын

@@Yattayatta An EV developed on an ICE platform will always be inferior to an EV developed on a fully electric platform.

You got the Bugatti take over wrong, they still own 45% of Bugatti. Also they got 24% of Rimac in exchange. Continuing they sold the Porsche AG shares to the Porsche SE. Bad framing ngl

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

And I believe that Porsche owns shares in VW, not the other way around.

Toyota are not as squeaky clean as some might think: "After reviewing Toyota’s software engineering process and the source code for the 2005 Toyota Camry, both concluded that the system was defective and dangerous, riddled with bugs and gaps in its failsafes that led to the root cause of the crash."

I'm the General Sales Manager of a VW dealership in the US. The biggest problem in VW is that assholes in Europe are making decisions for VW of America. Then, VW of America is making decisions based on government policy changes. Neither of them are listening to the dealers. If they just listened to the dealer groups in the US, we could be a top 3 player year after year.

@tomdowning9358

6 күн бұрын

So... the assholes in Europe are doing the exact same thing that US companies do in Europe? Really? Volkswagen is still a German-owned company. No company will listen to dealers ever. You should know how this works.

From my perspective, VW's problems are endemic to all German manufacturers. It really comes down to quality and value for money. It used to be that Germany cars were more expensive than those from other countries but made sense because of their reliability and durability. But in the late 90s they collectively decided that it was better to build the cars as cheaply as possible while drastically cutting development costs - no more long and extensive testing before putting the car on the market. Instead they worked hard on 'showroom appeal ' and leave it to the customer to discover the car's weaknesses The ID4 exemplifies that - it's obvious that they did not bother to test the software in the real world.

@jasonmugridge

11 күн бұрын

It was Mercedes who did this when it went from a company run by engineering to one run by marketing and accounts. The ID4 was rushed into production as VW hadn't got anything ready and they were going to get heavily fined in Europe if they didn't sell EV's All establishment car companies stopped really innovating about 40 years ago. Nissan even said publicly back in the 90's that there was no point them innovating any more until the competition caught up as it wasn't improving their sales. VW took all their old stuff to China 40 years ago when the Chinese were desperate for anything. This was a great idea at first and they made a killing, however they didn't both to improve their offering and now they are paying the price when the local competition is so good.

@Morpheus-pt3wq

8 күн бұрын

@@jasonmugridge i honestly don´t get this "fined in Europe if they didn´t sell EVs". Why are politicians deciding, what companies will produce and what people should buy and own? Not to mention they can change their decisions on a whim and activists/lobbyists are now basically ruling the EU. Seems more like a time machine to the past (CCCP), than anything else - and to top it off, it was proven, that CCCP´s way of doing things never worked! Europe no longer offers the stability it used to. Everybody just wants to play it "safe". It´s no wonder, there are no large tech companies in EU and the last one is (Philips) is dying. EU should have both software and hardware companies and compete on global market with everyone else, not just make cars. Cars will eventually fully saturate the market - what will EU do then? Kneel in the corner and die of hunger? Increasing car turnover rate by reducing their reliability is not the answer - and on top of that, it´s a waste of materials and labor.

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

Yep. Let's make rubbish cars and sell them for as much as possible because that badge says quality. In the meantime the Japanese were saying "let's make the best cars we possibly can for the lowest prices that we can.

@gregculverwell

6 күн бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 The Japanese, with the exception of Nissan and Subaru!

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

@@gregculverwell I could possibly add Bitzrmissy (Mitsubishi) to your list. Fair call, there. We're now a Honda/Mazda/Toyota family. My wife is looking forward to picking up her Suzuki Jimny, soon. Hopefully that can maintain its decency in the reliability stakes, because let me assure you, they're not performance cars!

Everything you have said here about VW and their CEO here is also true of GM and Mary Barra. They both lost trust around the same time (GM ignition switch, VW emissions) They both decided to go all in on EVs over the objections of the board. Both CEOs stan Tesla (Mary doesn't seem to like Elon, but she's definitely trying to turn GM into Tesla and embracing the same core business pillars - self driving and EVs) Both lost badly. The only major difference is that Mary bought back 10b worth of stock with borrowed money at the end of last year and so GM's stock price is doing slightly better.

Volkswagen used to offer a relatively premium, well-engineered and designed product at a mostly mainstream price. Think of the early 2000s Mk4 Golf and Jetta, B5/B6 Passat, etc. I think their downfall first started with Ferdinand Piech, who tried to push them upmarket with the flop Phaeton, Touareg, CC, etc, and dumped money into developing the Bugatti Veyron, the W8 and W12, and other costly passion projects (along with his successor Pischetsrieder, who he advised). Then Winterkorn stepped in and drove VW back downmarket in a failed attempt to capture more US sales - we got bland, forgettable and cheaply designed products which only made VW look like a bit player rather than an intentional niche brand here. Then Dieselgate and EV investing were the nail in the coffin. Now we’re stuck with an extremely aged Audi lineup and a pathetic presence for VW in the US along with fading relevance in Europe and China. Really sad as a euro car fan.

IMO the issue with VW is a lack of "balance": * Overpromised and overconcentrated in EV, but underdelivered. * Overinvested in autonomous driving but not enough in (useful) digitalization. * Stuck in echo chamber of ESG stuff. Not that ESG is bad, just that general consumers care about it less than you think. * An internal culture overly guilt-tripped by Dieselgate that everyone wants to "play safe" resulting in curbed innovation.

You didn't mention the debt that VW is carrying.

@user-br8ny2it9t

Күн бұрын

Which dept? That nearly nothing.

Overpriced, unreliable, expensive to maintain junk?

The eu won't let it fail. It's decent value play right now. They still pump out cars that people buy.

Hi , where do can I get the latest quarterly report of the companies? I like the graphs on google finance but they are not always updated.

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Almost all public companies post them on their own websites. Alternatively, you can find it on the SECs website for American companies. You can just look up Apple quarterly report for example.

The number one reason VW is dropping in the US market is reliability. Just a few years ago, VW had one of the very last station wagon cars left in the world with the Passat. And it was VERY popular for those of us that wanted that utility. Even Subaru no longer makes that style car, and that was Sub's 'bread and butter' for most of their life here in America. But no one wanted the FORD version of a wagon (Fix Or Repair Daily). Now we have the EV's, which are also FORD. That VW's Mercedes arm did not read the American market well sent Mercedes into a death spiral. Mercedes figured that most buyers use their cars just a ew years, then trade them in for a newere mofel. So they DESIGNED their car to just barely make it to the end of their warranty term, figuring everyone will trade them in and get new cars. But the majority of Americans will drive them until they have 200k miles on them before they are getting worn out. A newer Mercedes is very difficult to get that far without many major repairs. BMW did the same thing but they have learned this a lot faster than VW/Mercedes. Their cars are returning to reliable machines. VW and Mercedes are WAY behind. Reliability is killing VW in Europe and America, nothing else. As far as Chinese EV's are concerned, they are no longer much of a threat. People got ticked off that the reliability was at the bottom of all car brands.That China paid to have these cars dumped into Europe got people even more upset. The China car problem is gone for the US. But the reason it was a problem in the first place is still in existence for VW. The Chinese government is subsidizing the Chinese brands....... But not VW. They lost all their subsidies in China so they can no longer compete. They have lost their biggest market. Ouch. As to the reason Chinese EV's are no longer a threat in Europe and America, here is an excellent vid put together by 'China Observer'..... kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2mmzNeNhaTMqpM.html&ab_channel=ChinaObserver

@firstprib7742

13 күн бұрын

You do know that china observer is an anti china propaganda channel. Google search china observer falun gong funding.

@bend8353

12 күн бұрын

VW is crap, but your view is vey bias

@davidbeckenbaugh9598

12 күн бұрын

@@bend8353 Bias in what way? I included all facts that I thought were applicable to why VW is failing and it is, mostly, the VW's I am fixing in my shop have the same electrical faults over and over and over and.... you get the idea. They are, simply, unreliable. I need a replacement for me 1985 Subaru wagon (totaled by a drunk that hit it on the side of the road by my apartment. Argh.) and the Passat is the only car that even resembles it. But I do NOT want to fix my own car every time I want to go fishing somewhere. Now how in the world would that be a biased view. I WANT THE CAR. I DON'T want the constant repairs.

@davidk.d.7591

9 күн бұрын

VW cars far more about the Chinese and European markets than the American market

@davidbeckenbaugh9598

9 күн бұрын

@@davidk.d.7591 I have to agree with that. Small wagons USED to be very popular.. until the SUV craze. They gradually disappeared. But 'estate cars' are still selling in Europe. And many Americans are amazed that my old Subaru wagon has or interior space than a Ford Explorer or, even, a Tahoe. But it does AND gets about 25% better fuel mileage. So, yes, the markets are quite different. Americans always seem to want much bigger. Our house is a 3 bed 2 bath. ITY sits in an area dominated by 'McMansions'. % bed, 4 bath...And half the house sits empty 99% of the time. And that 99% of the time it is empty, you still pay taxes, maintenance, and heat the place. We have one empty room, and have emptied the living room of the coffee table and a chair, and relatives have slept on the floor. Works well enough. And only 1% of the time (probably less). Markets. Americans seem to not understand the difference in what they WANT, and what they NEED. Volkswagen seems to try and give people what they NEED. So, yes, the other markets are quite different. And I need a small wagon (estate car) that is reliable. I would LOVE a Mercedes Estate Car. But not an unreliable newer one. Looking for a 'gently used' mid-80's..... You know, a EUROPEAN type thing.

BYD has opened a dealership in my city in Brazil a few months ago (near São Paulo and Rio, 2.3M pop.) and it's been impressive to see how fast EVs are appearing in the streets.

Growing up as a kid, I wanted a Beetle so bad. By the time that I became an adult, they were very expensive relative to the size/practicality and didn’t have the same look that made them famous to begin with.

Skoda Octavia and Golf Variant now cost 30 000E, this is ridiculous :D

Bro as someone living in Germany my heart ached every single time you pronounced Volkswagen and other car names. Hurt even more than VW sinking.😂

@wdevil1280

13 күн бұрын

woltz wagen?

@HeatherLandon227

13 күн бұрын

SAME.. I don't even live there..

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

How do you say it correctly?

@gsadow

13 күн бұрын

@@LogicallyAnswered A german would pronounce the "V" in Volkswagen somewhat similar to an American "F". Something like how an American would say "Folks-vaagen". But I think possibly because of your Indian heritage, your V and W sound is actually somewhere in between both. A usual American would speak closer to a hard fricative V at the beginning of the name.

@Modularhandle

13 күн бұрын

+1 could’ve easily googled for a decent pronunciation. A job half done…

"Making the jump", the biggest mistake the market ever made was treating EVs not as an alternative to ICE but as an "inevitability" that must be forced on an unwilling consumer

The make cars with plastic oil pans. That really tells you everything.

Have VW made mistakes? You bet. But when we decided to buy a new EV, we chose the ID4. Built in Tennessee now. We have 25K on the clock now. Verdict? Excellent, not perfect, but a very, very solid machine. The problem with EV sales in general is that they are still too expensive for the average car buyer. If Vw or GM or whoever, sold a reliable EV for 30K, it would fly off the lots. But, the average price of a new car (ICE and EVs) is close to 48K in the US. Loanns are now 68 months long. 25 years ago , 3 years or 4 years was the norm. Incomes have not kept pace.

Experiencing multiple losses as a new trader can be disheartening, but it's important to remember that setbacks are a natural part of the learning curve. Each loss is an opportunity to gain valuable insights and strengthen your skills. Take comfort in knowing that every successful trader has faced similar challenges. If you are not ready for the mental stress in trading just do copytrade instead. Less stress and easy.

@Williampart

13 күн бұрын

I would greatly appreciate it if you could kindly provide me with an explanation of what copy trading entails.

@drsyed44

13 күн бұрын

Imagine you're playing a game with a friend who's a pro. Instead of struggling on your own, you watch and copy their moves to win. Copy trading is similar in finance. You follow experienced investors' decisions, mimicking their trades to learn and potentially profit in the market.

@Josephprlnce

13 күн бұрын

May I kindly inquire about your experience with copy trading and your thoughts on its effectiveness as an investment strategy?

@phil4610

13 күн бұрын

Kindly share who you copy??

@drsyed44

13 күн бұрын

He's a renowned hedgefund manager

Id like to write my bachelor thesis on The Influence of E-Mobility on the german economy (now and in the future). Do you guys think that would be an easy topic to write a bachelor thesis on? It has to be 50 pages i think. Maybe this topic is too complex for a bachelor thesis? Does someone know a good topic for a bachelors thesis (im studying economics and business administration)?

@thebosscrystal

13 күн бұрын

No idea how easy it would be but sounds interesting!

@Yattayatta

12 күн бұрын

I wrote my bachelor thesis on a single word, but you can go more broad than that. I'd suggest finding a slightly more specific topic though, maybe there is something in E-mobility that you could focus on specifically? With how a thesis is written, you'd be at the 50 page mark before you were done with your definitions at that with.

Owned an Audi that almost bankrupted me. Can’t believe all the electronic things that went bad that I’ve never needed to service before on any car I’ve owned.

@davidbrayshaw3529

6 күн бұрын

The same thing happened to a friend of mine in a relatively new (still under warranty) A6, about 10 years ago. It was one thing after another. He would get it back from the dealer and something would fail on the way home! He had a dozen or so trips to and from the shop in a year before he cut his losses and bought a high end Land Cruiser.

I still drive my Golf 2 1989, 742k km

1:19 wtf is this red car? 100% not a tesla

@mikapeltokorpi7671

13 күн бұрын

Older Model S

@linearcannon5078

12 күн бұрын

100% tesla.

Reliability of VW is now so bad that I wouldn't take it even for free. I remember the time when VW was synonym for quality and reliability 😢

@thiagolima5232

10 күн бұрын

the qualyt vw today come back. very nice

@JDBass36

8 күн бұрын

It was only a matter of time Over engineered cars that at some point was going to suffer in quality

removing all the buttons was an awful idea.

Software was their big downfall. Their ID series came out in 2020, but they didn't get the software to work properly until 2023. The software is working now, but probably too late to save the company.

@santostv.

10 күн бұрын

Especially in the Chinese market apparently they love karaoke and vw didn’t have it meanwhile Chinese brand did have it, it’s a bit silly but China like India and others leapfrogged technologies.

This is what happens when you focus on over-engineering instead of tangible & useful results.

I have a VW and it sucks. Last German car I ever buy. I used to admire Mercedes when I was a boy. Not anymore.

I'm just one example, but I had leased 2 GTI's in a row, and when I went in to get a 3rd, the salesman told me "of forget it man, the leases got blown up, they're undoable now". He was right, the price was laughable and no loyalty program. I switched brands and there's zero possibility of a return.

It was not Diess. It was Piech that put his money on to diesel technology, while Toyota introduced clean hybrids. Diesel gate costed tens of billions of dollars.

The worst part of my Porsche is the screen, get those damn things out of cars

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Facts

Strongly disagree with what you've been saying that investing heavily in EV's is a mistake and Toyota is making the right decisions. Automakers, especially big ones that sell millions of vehicles a year, won't be able to shift to EV's fast enough by the time consumer sentiment starts to move strongly in that direction. Toyota and VW's current leadership are basically guaranteeing that BYD, Tesla, and other EV startups (many of them Chinese) will either put them out of business or cannibalize a significant chunk of market share over the next decade. You should take a much closer look at what's been happening in the Chines automarket if you think that EV's will never take off.

@Warfoki

12 күн бұрын

China's market works, because the CCP is extremely aggressively subsidizes it. They put so much money into making EVs, that car companies barely even need to sell the stuff, because governmental subsidies alone keep them chugging. The CCP is eating immense financial losses on that, but they don't care, because they hope they can practically monopolize the international market and became THE car supplier. This is failing. At first there was a massive wave of adaption in China, largely thanks to subsidies, but this slowed down to a crawl now that most people who wanted an EV, have one. The US market closed off for them, especially after the latest 100%+ tariff increase from Biden, to protect the local car industry. The EU is in the process of passing similar tariffs to prevent its own industry getting bulldozed by China. Without government subsidies, BYD is not viable, and without a successful global takeover of the car market, the CCP will stop subsidizing them eventually.

@mrmansville9340

11 күн бұрын

y the time consumer sentiment starts to move strongly in that direction

After mostly owning and working on Toyotas, my wife recently brought a used but fairly new Volkswagen. It’s been nothing but problems (anecdote) but what I’m blown away by is how poorly it’s designed. Seems like to take anything off it requires undoing at least 20 screws. Just seems amateur.

Stock price isnt a great indicator of performance.

Volkswagen's evaluation of $100 billion was due to a short squeeze, not because it was the value of a company. I'm disappointed by lack of research and won't be watching again going forward.

@lonyo5377

12 күн бұрын

VW spun out Porsche and paid a massive dividend as well (€10bn), which accounts for that much of the market cap drop, plus they pay out regular dividends on top

@RoadtripEuropeDashcam

11 күн бұрын

VW became the most valuable company in the world for a day due to that short squeeze. but the video was referring to VW being the most valuable car maker. two different things.

Volkswagen should have invested the money to create actually realiable vehicles. Like decided to remove the starter from a hybrid and if the replaicement process breaks its a 2k fix.

Stock price does not mean anything.

I don't know if i'll buy another newer VW. I have a 2015 GTI, all services were done on time, including oil changes every 3k miles. i'm at 148k miles right now and it's issue after issue. High pressure fuel pump (that the dealership refuses to fix until they can cover it under warranty..so it'll just catch on fire i guess), oil cooler exploded and i had oil in my coolant, fuel injectors getting clogged every 40k miles etc...I've also had many electrical issues. Now my alternator is going because my car decided to spew oil all over it, destroying the wiring.

There is an overused phrase, 'Get woke - Go broke'. However, it is appropriate for many auto manufacturers, who, instead of listening to the consumers, decided to listen to ignorant politicians instead. Now Ford, GM, and Stellantis are all facing a fiscal debacle of their own making. The public does not want EVs. They are very expensive, costly to insure and repair, and have lousy driving range and excessive charging times. They depreciate like a huge ship anchor. While serving as CEO, Toyoda refused to give EV development top priority, claiming that battery-powered vehicles were too complicated and unpopular with consumers. Instead, under his leadership the company made significant investments in hybrid and hydrogen drivetrains. [Mar 3, 2024] People like hybrids, as sales figures clearly show: Customer reception to Ford hybrid vehicles continues to accelerate, with U.S. sales reaching 17,997 in April, 2024, a 60 percent improvement from the same month a year ago and a new monthly record. CEOs need to be in sync with the consumers, not elite politicians and entertainers.

@andrewkiyko7413

13 күн бұрын

The fact that Toyota performs quite well gives me some hope for the future. At least some of these multibillion-dollar corporations don't lose the grasp on what customers want.

@jim9930

13 күн бұрын

@@andrewkiyko7413 Go watch videos from anywhere on the planet except Europe and America.... Toyota is the daily driver. I just watched AlJazeera coverage at the helicopter wreck site in Iran... Toyota's Toyota makes things people NEED - they're screwed in western economies by regulation; but still practically #1

@tim3172

13 күн бұрын

You realize that *literally* ever manufacturer of vehicles sold in the west went "woke" several decades ago, right? Ford, GM, and Stellantis all succumbed to... say it with me... *corporate* *greed*. The least "woke" vehicles are struggling the worst. The 80, 90, 100k+ F250s and 140K+ F350s that guzzle fuel? They're sitting on lots. The Jeep Wrangler is causing Jeep to HEMMORAGE money. It's not just the "woke" 4xe. It's every Wrangler. Ditto all body-on-frame Trucks and SUVs above mid-grade or so. They're simply too expensive to be sold in big numbers. Nobody is buying a 60K Wrangler. The hype died (HARD) on the Bronco (also going for 65k+ at one point MSRP and people were paying 80-100K for First Editions)... the Trailhawk... the Grand Cherokee... etc. (NOBODY IS BUYING THE 80K version of the GRAND CHEROKEE L.) My Audi S4 in 2018: $61,690. The same S4 in 2024: (it's exactly the same platform, same options, they moved from the MMI knob to the touch screen): $70,040. My 2021 A4: $46,300 The, again, identical vehicle in 2024: $53,840.00 (it even has the same touch screen.) Now a freaking Golf R costs more than my 2021 A4 when it was $39,995 in 2021. The manufacturers are literally pricing out buyers, making them go an entire model line (or even *BRAND*) down to get the same cost. I know it hurts to admit that it has nothing to do with "woke" (a vague arrangement of concepts that seem to cumulatively mean "empathy" and "foresight"), but legacy automakers are suffering because of *overpriced automobiles* due to *corporate greed*.

@tim3172

13 күн бұрын

Also, did you uh... did you see how the hydrogen "investments" worked out for Toyota? "Toyota's Hydrogen Future Is Crumbling As Owners File Lawsuits, Call For Buybacks" People are upset because the hydrogen tank costs $15,000 to replace. Oops...

@andrewkiyko7413

12 күн бұрын

@@tim3172 The difference is that they're smart enough not to put all eggs in one basket. Even though they failed with hydrogen, their hybrids are better than ever.

Sry, but your video shows, that you clearly missed business class - accounting 101. Only bc vw and bmw are selling cars, that does not necessarily make them comparable as you do it. You have to take in account, that VW is more a bank that is producing cars, than Tesla an others are. Also you have to consider regulations and and and and. This is just clickbait

That VW's CEO probably invested a lot in Tesla 😂

Software for all these automakers is huge issue. They are not software companies AND when it comes time for the board to invest money, things like performance, economy, and safety come before software. The answer isn't difficult. Install the computer hardware and let the consumer choose options of which Operating System and Software provider they want to use. Then, let suppliers like Microsoft and Apple compete for the O/S and let other third party software developers compete with which software will ride on that O/S. This could include everything from the Infotainment system to the customizable digital virtual cockpit. It would also enable consumers, if they found their choice wasn't keeping up OR the business failed, that they could change software providers... having a whole new look and feel to their experience. Meanwhile, the physical CAR of which car manufactures are actually good at, perform as they should. Note it also does not help that Telco's eliminated 3G, the technology a lot of these car manufactures depended on for their mobile app interfaces. So, now a bunch of consumers are driving around with technology that doesn't work. It's baffling they can't just swap out a chip with one that will work with 5G.

Herbert Diess first mistake was being a musk fanboy

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

🙏

no views in 41 seconds? bro fell off

@toxicityuser

13 күн бұрын

can’t be talking about falling off when you were never on

@akilelamin

13 күн бұрын

lol

@KnightSoulsG

13 күн бұрын

Be original

@Tripplesmoke

13 күн бұрын

oh man if it isnt th3 same cliché comment you typically find on youtube. Almost as good as commenting "first"

I live in Wolfsburg the home of Volkswagen, my parents work at Volkswagen and I’m a student in a Volkswagen sponsored school. I’ve never noticed anything wrong until I watched this video.

In my 20's I wanted VW and Mercedes Benz, they were good reliable cars. Despite what happened, I sill lean towards diesels. Today I would not touch either brands, I'll go for a reliable boring to drive Toyota, at least it will last.

Volkswagen Polo their best car 😍

@udaysingh9_11

13 күн бұрын

Of course you're an Indian 🤦🏻

Any company that drinks the EV Koolaid will fail, but it does matter how much and how fast they drink. VW got the Diess dose. ☠️

@oxaile4021

11 күн бұрын

Nah, Companies not prioritizing EVs will fail.

@stevenmitchell7830

11 күн бұрын

@@oxaile4021 so one EV company a week going bankrupt isn't enough proof for you? I doubt neither Tesla nor BYD are actually profitable without very dubious accounting.

@oxaile4021

11 күн бұрын

@@stevenmitchell7830 Right, because small startups have never gone bankrupt before? 🤣🤣🤣 Many legacy companies will be added to that list in the not so distant future. Likely starting from Japan.

Herbert was the digital edition of Lopez

Volkswagen is Boeing of car World 😎

One like is one recorded pushup (COME ON I NEED MUSCLES)

@LogicallyAnswered

13 күн бұрын

Good luck

@POKEMON_GD

13 күн бұрын

@@LogicallyAnswered thanks

From 2004 i bought my first Toyota,i was that impressed by reliability and build quality, im now on my 3rd Toyota. 3 cars in twenty years never had a breakdown,and every time it went for a service it never had any major problemsToyota cars are that reliable everybody should own one

I was a loyal VW customer until I realized I was being cheated by them. Overpriced, unreliable, quality built issues everywhere and worst of all, not accepting accountability for their mistakes. I will never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a VW group car again. It’s a malevolent company with no regard whatsoever for their customers. What can you expect from VW but greed, arrogance and disrespect. It’s a doomed corporation that will bankrupt sooner than later not before being teared apart and sold to any equity financial fund.

Fun fact, Volkswagen is "Vehicle for the people" in German (The likes for this also counts for my pushup comment)

@divyanshbhutra5071

13 күн бұрын

Is that why it's said - Folks Wagon 😮

@brainprism88

13 күн бұрын

not really it means car of the people :)

@POKEMON_GD

13 күн бұрын

@@brainprism88 Wagen = Vehicle tho, car is auto, but thats also correct

It's a divided world. EVs do fine in China (maybe bcs of more infrastructure?) , and due to lack of infrastructure they don't sell I europe or usa.

@Warfoki

12 күн бұрын

Because of subsidies. The CCP is pouring an absurd amount of money into BYD, to the point where they barely need to bother selling cars, the subsidies alone guarantee their survival. Also, crazy amount of subsidized price cuts and governmental aids for private buyers too.

I leased a Jetta a few years ago. By the second year in the lease the plastic in rear doors became sticky, the gear selector (auto) got stuck in N, and the transmission sounded like it had marbles in it. Frankly I loved the car but had no faith in it. Said thanks but no thanks when the lease was up.

Anyone who hasn't heard of BYD hasn't been paying attention. They're huge in Australia - my wife just bought one. You'll be hearing much more about them if you haven't heard about them yet.

As a German with some lose ties to VW I can assure you: this coroporate 100% suffered from way way way too many internal politics

I was a Volkswagen salesman in the early 90's. I've always thought they were overpriced and they were never reliable. I always felt guilty every time I sold one to someone. And then I moved to Toyota, and that was a real eye opener. Toyota's were solid.

I'm glad you mention hybrid cars as a way to make a smoother transition. The infrastructure is behind and will take some years.

I don't know. Both my Golfs have been very reliable and I'm quite happy with them. Though it will be a long long time before I ditch them for an EV or another Diesel with "futuristic tech" like touch screen buttons or self driving, an unreliable technology that's not ready for production and probably won't ever be in our lifetime (Tesla's infotainment system also sucks balls BTW)

The major problem with VW is, that they are unrelaiable. VW used to be the manufacture for a relaiable, affordable cars. Personally I used SEAT Cars since I got my license (Started with a Ibiza, then had multiple Leon's and one Cupra Formentor) My first 3 cars never had major problems. My current daily driver is now consistently at the dealership, to fix stuff that isn't working. VW group lost my trust and I will probably look into buying a Mazda or Toyota next.