As a French Man i would like to tell you ,that i'm.entirely against the execution of the Queen Marie Antoinette,she wasn't guilty at all about what happened in France a this time! She is a scape goat just like her husband the King Louis the 16th!!! I like the way you tell the sad story of Marie Antoinette! I like your calm voice for describing a very sad period of my country! And every thing you said in your video is absolutely true!!! Well done ! Very good job! Thank you very much indeed! Stay safe, God Bless! Denis from France...

@pimpompoom93726

Жыл бұрын

The inevitable conclusion for Mob rule, this is why America and France ended up as Republics rather than direct democracies. The people can be easily manipulated by evil elites and they certainly were during the Reign of Terror.

@thespecialant8092

Жыл бұрын

The Illuminati orchestrated all of what happened to the French Monarchy

@andreebesseau6995

Жыл бұрын

Je vient de Vendée.vous savez sûrement ce qui est arrivé aux "chouants".un génocide tout simplement.une histoire très triste de l histoire de France 😨

@oliviaswarden6077

Жыл бұрын

C'est Bonne!❤❤

@denislacombe4103

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviaswarden6077 thanh you! I am waiting for your next video! God Bless! Denis

Marie Antoinette was nothing near the woman described. She had come to France a naive teenager. She was not an arrogant person; most "mistakes " she made came from her ignorance of the very strict austere customs and attitudes of the country. One day her carriage had run over a young peasant boy. She rushed to his side very upset and saw that he received the best of care until he recovered. After that, she had him raised as though he were an aristocrat's son, seeing that he was highly educated and thanks to her he lived the life of a royal relative. Her biggest fault was that she knew nothing about royal finances and lived as she thought she was supposed to. Also, people hated her because she did not produce an heir for France. However, once she did, people's attitude towards her changed as she was now a royal mother. She did not deserve the hatred some felt towards her. France would have been a hard place for a young teenage girl used to being raised in a warm and loving family.

Antonia Fraser wrote a sympathetic biography of the ill-fated queen. She really didn't do anything "on purpose" and had little power or control over her life. She was a victim of circumstance and an easy target as symbol of the monarchy.

@388Caroline

Жыл бұрын

Love Antonia’s books.

@olyascheadschenko8855

Жыл бұрын

@@388Caroline 0:45

@fabianwylie8707

Жыл бұрын

She was a escape goat for the losses French wars abroad and astounding amounts of money lost to fund these battles in protection of French interests. Actually should have been military leaders and French government officials to have faced madam guillotine and not her !.

@meganhigginbottom9610

Жыл бұрын

👏👏 thank you!! So tired of people calling her “unsympathetic” it’s has been proven that she was set up. She never said “let them eat cake” in the context it was reported. And the diamonds they accused her of depleting the treasury to purchase wasn’t even hers! It was a gift!

@jackiemack8653

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Get enough people to believe propaganda and voila the innocent are destroyed. Believe Romanovs suffered the same hatred.

No, Marie Antoinette did not say, "Let them eat cake". “Let them eat cake,” or Qu’ils mangent de la brioche,” attributed to first be found in Jean-Jacqque Rousseau’s Confessions, Book Six, 1765. Also attributed to Marie-Thérése, wife of Louis XIV, again who would have only been 14 years old when Rousseau’s Confessions were written. Brioche [brijɔʃ] is very soft, buttery bread, made of flour, milk or water, eggs, salt, some sugar, yeast and lots of butter. It is usually eaten for breakfast or with afternoon tea versus bread. French bread is made from wheat flour, water, yeast and salt. By law in France, the long loaves and boules (round loaves) cannot have added oil or fat. Brioche, a soft loaf with a high egg and butter content, is considered a pastry or cake. The shortage of flour (wheat) is attributed to the shortage of bread. The Book of Jin, a 7th-century chronicle of the Chinese Jin Dynasty, reports that when Emperor Hui (259-307) of Western Jin was told that his people were starving because there was no rice, he said, "Why don't they eat porridge with (ground) meat?", showing his unfitness Also, "S’il n’y a pas de pain on mangera de la brioche" Marie Antoinette was known as a generous patron of charity and moved by the plight of the poor.

@ruthmarker

Жыл бұрын

No proof she said this!

@arslongavitabrevis5136

Жыл бұрын

Hello "anneterry3660"! Very interesting comment of yours. I always appreciate people like you who cares for historical accuracy, investigating a subject and quoting their sources. I do not have much sympathy for Marie Antoinette and even less for her husband the incompetent and cowardly Louis XVI; however, they DID NOT deserve to be killed. They were murdered to satisfy the hysterical masses excited by the hateful demagogues of the National Committee of Public Welfare (sometimes incorrectly and literally translated as "Public Health"). Thank you for the very interesting information about the bread and the brioche. I am a lover of French history and culture and that includes their wonderful cuisine; therefore, I appreciate your comment very much. Regards. Claudio

Marie Antoinette was a sad and tragic woman. As a young queen, she devoted herself to charitable work, established an orphanage for children, bread factories that were constructed to distribute bread to the poor people, and adopted six children. One of the children that she adopted was an African child who was kidnapped in the slave trade.

@annanardo2358

Жыл бұрын

But she depleted the treasury of France doing everything and anything she wanted. Not sold on the idea. So she adopted kids, big deal, she spent every cent on herself and kids that weren't even hers, while leaving the citizens impoverished to the max.

@hannahred7758

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@annanardo2358 the treasury was depleted by France aiding America in the revolutionary war. The people of France used Marie as a scapegoat because they ALWAYS resented that she was Austrian. As far as Marie knew, she was doing exactly what a French Dauphine was supposed to do, while also supporting charities and several children.

@rainbowkiss100

Жыл бұрын

@@annanardo2358so did a lot of royals. No one is saying she was fundamentally good or bad. Like anyone existing

@rainbowkiss100

Жыл бұрын

@@annanardo2358also she wasn’t the sole reason for the treasury being depleted.. the treasury was already so by the American Revolutions

@meyou3566

Жыл бұрын

Before you say anything during her entire time at versailles, she spent less money than a SINGLE mistress of Louis XV. She was not a reckless spender and 10 uears before the revolution she started spending even less notably.

I agree She was a scapegoat. The mob was filled with rage and needed someone to blame for all the wrongs, both real and perceived. We see that same mob mentality at work in many countries today. If we don’t learn from the mistakes of the past…

@michaelmontagu3979

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with you. The mob are just ignorant sheep. Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette paid the price for the excess of Louis XIV and Louis XV.

If you had been in Paris on the 200th anniversary of her death you would have seen how many still cared about her. They walked from the prison Conciergerie to the place of execution praying all the way something I will never forget and the walk ended with her final letter being read. There were so many flowers laid there by the people. There were special things owned by her put in the museums that she had in the prison I wish I had been allowed to take pictures but I was not and these were very special things I think probably owned by family or rich people. In this museum is also a piece of jewelry with a lock of her hair. My daughter was only 9 years old but had this somber face all day:) I have the dairies of Sanson the executioner maybe I should read them again as it's been years since the last time. I saw Marie Antionette's deathmask in Madame Toussaud's in 1977 but it wasn't displayed very well and was in kind of a horror dungeon at this time. I love Paris and its history!!

@linpollitt8950

Жыл бұрын

That's good to know, thank you

Imagine what must have gone through her mind as she was led to the guillotine.

@jennthabombdiggity

Жыл бұрын

The terror must be unimaginable.

@goofygrandlouis6296

Жыл бұрын

She wanted to eat cake ?

@pimpompoom93726

Жыл бұрын

At that point after months of ill treatment, humiliation and the deaths of her husband and friends, it was probably a blessing for it to finally come to an end. She died with far more dignity than the mob shouting insults at her.

@susanc4622

Жыл бұрын

She was probably thinking of her children and wondering what would happen to them. It’s easy to forget that she was a mother.

@bryanspindle4455

Жыл бұрын

They say your brain remains conscious for up to ten seconds after you are beheaded.

Personally, I don't think that she didn't have sympathy for the plight of the people of France. I think she was more or less oblivious. Her mother, Queen Maria Therese, was a very philanthropic queen and had soup and bread given out to the poor. Not to mention, I dont think that Marie, herself, would have adopted the children that she did if she didn't feel any sort of sympathy. Just my opinion

@pimpompoom93726

Жыл бұрын

If you've ever visited Versailles you'll see how isolated the Royal Family was from commoners, they simply did not know the extent that the poor were suffering. I've been to Versailles and to get in and speak with the Sun King you had to go through about 5 or 6 sequential rooms, each one requiring a higher authority to approve your visit. Only the very top officials and royalty got as far as the King's bedroom, where he conducted a lot of his official business-often while in bed! It would have been very difficult for the King and Queen to know and appreciate what the average French people were going through until it was too late and the mob marched on Versailles. They were insulated like a Queen bee in the hive.

@buildingwithtrees2258

Жыл бұрын

If you've ever been to a millionaires estate, you'd understand how isolating it is. And also to be there and imagine a staff doing everything for you. And then imagine an endless amount of money that you can spend, but did not earn. Today's Bidens, a crackhead son "sells" his scribbles for $250,000 and somehow gets millions to sit on pretend boards. You'd understand how the peasants feel when your food bill went from $100/week to $300/week, yet wages stay stagnant.

@thespecialant8092

Жыл бұрын

The Illuminati orchestrated all of this

I hate how horrible people are to Marie Antoinette. She was literally a child. I know no 14 year olds who were ready for birthing children or ruling a kingdom. This is probably why in many countries the legal and/or recommended age for many activities is older than 14 years of age.

@patriciavasques799

Жыл бұрын

Many royals started marrying women young due to the fact they covet an heir apparent and child birth was very dangerous along with the infant mortality rate of survival. They became a breeding machine (Queens). Look at Henry The 8th. He was so blinded by wanting a MALE son to be the next King of England, he executed (in part) Ann Boylen for NOT giving him a son! Going back to Marie Antoinette. Groomed from childbirth in being royal (Catherine of Aragon was as well) So her spending the Treasurey was definitely a scapegoat to get rid of The Monarchs in France at that time. Oh to have lived during that time! You see it also during the rise of Bolsheviks in Russia which led to the compete wipe out of the Romanov family in Russia! Politics changed with the rise of powerful factions and being poor and starving, these powerful rising groups will get people to believe in these evil up risers! Studying history you tend to see a pattern. Poverty and suffering leads a vunerable state for people to become attached to these villians. Look at the rise of Hilter (though different on how they rised but still...you see they wait like a spider then pounce onto the people using their propaganda to these people by saying glory and change and better life. That Mt friends is how that spark begins and travels throughout a nation like a wild fire! This is why I study History.

@Monkey114

Жыл бұрын

She was still a child, mentally and emotionally.

@cisuminocisumino3250

Жыл бұрын

We could literally excuse most cruel and ignorant rulers for being "children" but we don't, you can't use modern standards to judge people in the past. From what I've seen so far Marie was just as guilty.

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

This channel and modern history in general not only neglects a simple fact about this individual and royalty at the time, but actively seeks to hide it. You may not understand why they were treated so badly, because of the omission and deception. This channel serves to mask things by providing false identities for historic figures. I could give you the missing piece of the puzzle, but you'd be hard-pressed to believe it.

Following the events of 1789, the French royal family was removed by a mob from the Palace of Versailles and detained in the Tuilleries. The great British parliamentarian and orator penned his "Reflections on the Revolution in France" (published in May 1791). Concerning Queen Anne-Marie it contains this passage: “It is now sixteen or seventeen years since I saw the queen of France, then dauphiness at Versailles, and surely never lighted on this orb, which she hardly seemed to touch, a more delightful vision. I saw her just above the horizon…glittering like the morning-star, full of life and splendour, and joy. Oh! what a revolution! And what an heart must I have, to contemplate without emotion that elevation and that fall!...little did I dream that I should have lived to see such disasters fallen upon her in a nation of gallant men, in a nation of men of honour and of cavaliers. I thought ten thousand swords must have leaped from their scabbards to avenge even a look that threatened her with insult. - But the age of chivalry is gone - That of sophisters, oeconomists, and calculators, has succeeded; and the glory of Europe is extinguished for ever…” Marie Antoinette would go to her death on 19th October 1793.

@denislacombe4103

Жыл бұрын

No.Marie Antoinette has beem guillotined October the 16 th 1793.

@robertbrennan2268

Жыл бұрын

Great thanks for the correction of fact...

@denislacombe4103

Жыл бұрын

@@robertbrennan2268 you're welcome!

@kimfleury

Жыл бұрын

The Age of Sophisters Oeconomists, and Calculators is indeed upon us. It explains the past few years and the handling of the current world war.

@haroldbridges515

2 ай бұрын

Well, that last bit of Burke's sentiments hasn't exactly stood the test of time, has it?

I felt sorry for her and her children they did not deserve the treatment they got only her daughter one daughter survived they tortured the children daughter one that survived rose that you could hear her brother scream awful what happened to them

I've been fascinated by Marie Antoinette since I was very young. The whole era of the French Revolution has interested me since I read A Tale of Two Cities at the age of 10. It was an abridged version for children, I was no child prodigy! Some years ago I visited La Conciergerie in Paris and it was very depressing. You could feel a sense of misery, like a black cloud enveloping you. We saw Marie Antoinette's cell. It was tiny and with a guard permanently watching her she had no privacy. We also visited Versailles and saw how she lived in better times. I believe she was innocent. She came from a royal family herself and was married to the Dauphin at the age of 14. The French court at the time was very rigid and full of protocol. She couldn't even get up and get dressed without an audience watching her. She had no clue how ordinary people lived, her extravagance came through naivety. What they did to her in prison was appalling. They took her children away and forced her son to say she'd committed sexual acts on him. He was only 7 or 8 years old. I'm glad so many French people still remember her with fondness. She was a brave and dignified woman 😢

@margo3367

11 ай бұрын

They accused another famous queen, who was also beheaded, of incest too.

@linpollitt8950

11 ай бұрын

@@margo3367 you're right. I think Anne Boleyn was accused of incest with her brother.

If you've ever visited Versailles you'll see how isolated the Royal Family was from commoners, they simply did not know the extent that the poor were suffering. I've been to Versailles and to get in and speak with the Sun King you had to go through about 5 or 6 sequential rooms, each one requiring a higher level of authority to approve your visit. Only the very top officials and royalty got as far as the King's bedroom, where he conducted a lot of his official business-often while in bed! And you can imagine how the authorities who issued Approval for you to go through each successive chamber leading up to the King used and abused that authority to secure favors and wealth. It would have been very difficult for the King and Queen to know and appreciate what the average French people were going through until it was too late and the mob marched on Versailles, the level of bureaucracy kept them in the dark. To top it off, they were surrounded by sycophants and 'Yes!' men/women who curried favor and did their best to shield the Royal couple from distressing news out of Paris (Versailles is about 15 miles from the outskirts of Paris). Had the Royal family known sooner how bad things were, they could have done something to alleviate the suffering and probably prevented the revolution, but the cumbersome nature of the Royal Institution couldn't react to events quickly enough. I've also read that a few consecutive seasons of cold, wet weather just before the revolution contributed to destroying the French wheat crops which produced the flour for bread-a staple for French lower classes in particular. The perfect storm of events.

@margo3367

11 ай бұрын

The royal family didn’t know how the people were starving, or didn’t care?

@pimpompoom93726

11 ай бұрын

@@margo3367 Sounds as if you've already made up your mind?

@margo3367

11 ай бұрын

@@pimpompoom93726 I don’t think they should have killed the Royal Family, but violence is the factor that all revolutions have in common.

@Soul_Flow_

10 ай бұрын

Wow, are you a historian? So knowledgable

@davidmacy411

9 ай бұрын

It also didnt help that providing the massive amount of aid to the American Revolution heavily contributed to the massive French debt. The ideas of the Revolution also fueled the uprising as well.

The queen ignored the priest because he was a juring priest. In other words he had accepted the Government was his boss!

I think she should be allowed to rest in peace.

Marie Tussaud didn't sneak in to cast her death mask, she was commissioned to do it, aged 17. Making a plaster cast/mould couldntbe done in a hurry

@pheart2381

Жыл бұрын

I agree,she literally had the head dumped in her lap and was ordered to make a cast.

@philstrachan

Жыл бұрын

@pheart2381 yes, that's what I'm sure I read in Maddame T's guidebook in London and Sydney.

@annagibson6466

Жыл бұрын

Tussaud was 32 in 1793 when Marie Antoinette was executed. Regardless, she didn't do it at all. Tussaud herself never claimed to have made a death cast of Marie Antoinette. This was invented after Tussaud's death by her sons, who added Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette's heads to the "Chamber of Horrors" and created the narrative that the heads had been taken after decapitated. Prior to Tussaud's death, however, figures of the French royal family had only been presented as a group sitting together, and described as being done "From life."

@DougguoD

Жыл бұрын

👀 Do any of these very diverse portraits match the casting ? 👀

@annagibson6466

Жыл бұрын

@@DougguoD I personally think some of the Tussaud's castings (the various molds can look quite different) look similar to Wertmuller's portraits, especially the nose and lower face.

I wonder then why people weren't more supportive of her, if she was "known for charity". It's too bad the family couldn't have made it to Austria safely. If their carriage were not as obvious, maybe they would have gotten away. It's terrible what the families did though -- send this young girl to another country to marry their prince, and make the two countries get along in alliance. He didn't want a part of it. So she's criticized for spending too much, but she's supposed to look like a queen, and when she tries a simpler look, it's taken as an insult. There was nothing she could win. Everything about that time is tragic. The family, the response of the people, their struggles, and the revolution. Really sad.

@thefanone

Жыл бұрын

❤❤

@aprilgosa5779

Жыл бұрын

Robespierre made certain that the French people hated Marie but she was not liked even before she landed in France a Queen at 14

@brontewcat

Жыл бұрын

She was Austrian and thus unpopular as a foreigner. She was also the subject of large numbers of anti Antoinette pamplets produced as a propaganda against her. The propaganda was not unlike the anti Fergie (Duchess of York) in the media in the 1980s and 90s, and the anti Meghan Markle stories in the tabloids and on social media more recently. The press make up stories and the public just accepts.

@saintsone7877

Жыл бұрын

Like most revolutions there is always bloodletting afterwards to satisfy the crowd. Most who were guillotined committed no crime but were disliked by someone who had the ability to have them arrested and tried of trumped up charges convicted and killed. The number of people legally murdered by the guillotine is actually quite astounding and far exceeds the numbers killed in battles throughout the revolution. To call it a bloodlust is an understatement.

@vollhov2370

Жыл бұрын

Sending girls to marry at the age of 14 was the norm of the 18th century. For example, Catherine the Great came to Russia when she was 14 years old.

The hypocrisy of all those who consented to the deaths of the king and queen, to show a state of mourning when they were finally buried according to their station.

I think the millions of lives sent to Austria were meant to be millions of livres.

She was just a scapegoat for men seeking political power. Not the first time in history where people rose to power off of firing up the mobs against a scapegoat.

@hermitwatcher8997

Жыл бұрын

Wow. That’s profound

@lonniemonroe2714

Жыл бұрын

The way the Democrats are doing with Trump

@jonesyjones7626

11 ай бұрын

Right on sister!

The people are so easily played by the media this hasn’t changed either no wonder they call us sheep

@bmdjk

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@toddcox5406

Жыл бұрын

I'll bet people don't call you sheep,i'll bet people have a variety of other choice words for you😁😀😀😀

@thomasspicer4130

Жыл бұрын

@@toddcox5406 Same goes for you I’m sure 👌🏻

I read somewhere that hacklers tried to get the public to jeer her on her way to her death, but that people fell silent when she went past, especially because of her white dress.

@pimpompoom93726

Жыл бұрын

It's hard to express hate for someone who is going to their death with dignity, even if you feel they deserved it. Most people have some level of compassion.

Poor Marie. She kept her dignity until the end though. R.I.P Marie Antoinette.

@kimmycupreacts

11 ай бұрын

Well as a mom, I'd be thinking about my children. I'm sure she was too.

@paulwoodford1984

11 ай бұрын

i have no doubt. @@kimmycupreacts

@kimmycupreacts

11 ай бұрын

@@paulwoodford1984 oops sorry, I posted this under the wrong comment. Lol. But I agree with your sentiments.

@paulwoodford1984

11 ай бұрын

lol, oh, well your comment still applies nicely. She wanted to remain dignified for her kids. 😊@@kimmycupreacts

@kimmycupreacts

11 ай бұрын

@@paulwoodford1984 Indeed! =]

An example of her lack of self-determination, Marie Antoinette, despite her status as the Queen of France, never once viewed the ocean -- a site she had expressly desired to experience. She was only ever permitted the luxuries of Monarchy whether in the Courts of Vienna or Versailles as a beautiful bird in a gilded cage. In fulfilling her obligations as Queen she would never be permitted to fulfill the simplest desires of her own interests and curiosities, such as the simple act of standing on the shore to behold the Sea. The best defence of Marie Antoinette might well be found in her response to the accusation of incest which she allegedly committed with her eight-year-old son, Louis Charles. When asked about the charges, she replied that she had “no knowledge” of them. However, minutes later a member of the jury demanded a response from the former Queen to which she said: “If I have not replied it is because Nature itself refuses to answer such a charge laid against a mother. I appeal to all mothers here present - is it true?” Her composure in court may have ingratiated her with the audience enough for this first charge brought against her, that it would not be raised again during the trial and was not included among the 3 charges for which she was found guilty: high treason, depletion of the national treasury and conspiracy against state security. The despicable false charge alone would have been enough to send her to the guillotine.

It might be of interest to some. My favourite book on Marie Antoinette is ‘Queen of Fashion, what Marie Antoinette wore to the revolution ‘ by Caroline Weber. Not so fond of Antonia Frazier but that’s a personal choice. I enjoy your content but wish you would check your pronunciations more and your facts. I think you’ll find she wasn’t forced to wear a simple white dress. Having only the one shabby black dress she had worn since her husbands death, she still had the forethought to keep aside one clean white chemise specifically for her last public appearance. She always knew what the end would be and didn’t ride to her death in dirty rags as the propagandist sketches of the time tried to infer but in a simple spotlessly clean white cotton ‘dress’. Was this a final subtle message? White the colour of innocence or simply dressing herself with as much dignity as she could in her appalling circumstances? Consider this in comparison to the death of the Comtesse du Barry dragged to the guillotine crying, screaming, and begging for mercy. You can condemn her frivolous youth but the lady’s courage in the last few years of her life was/is awe inspiring.

@janhenry9733

Жыл бұрын

I have that book too and love it!

@janhenry9733

Жыл бұрын

But do you mean Comtesse du Barry as in the king's mistress? I didn't follow her story after she was sent away from Versailles (if the film was correct), but I do wonder what became of her.

@laurencenorman

Жыл бұрын

@@janhenry9733 Yes. Lois XV last mistress. She ‘retired’ to the country. During the revolution she did try to help fleeing aristocrats. She moved much of her vast jewellery collection abroad. I think mainly London. She visited London often. She should have stayed there. Her mistake was in returning to France believing she was safe and all but forgotten. Years before she had taken on a small black boy as her page. Still in her service and during the revolution, he became involved with the revolutionaries and reported/betrayed her depending on where you stand. Foolishly, Du Barry told her captors where her jewels were in the stupid notion that this would gain her freedom. Instead they condemned her to death and sold her jewels in London to fund the cause. The end was not dignified, though I appreciate her sheer terror. She was forced to the guillotine screaming and begging for mercy. Perhaps there is a poetic irony in the fact the money raised from one of the most fabulous private collections of jewellery ever amassed ‘returned’ to the ordinary people of France.

@janhenry9733

Жыл бұрын

@@laurencenorman wow! I have so many mixed feelings. The jewels for the people - fine. The executions went beyond what was necessary. I have more to explore about both revolutions but a less violent payback would have been to strip the aristocrats of everything and release them to a life of service and/or as a commoner. Instead they went out for blood which takes their mission down a couple pegs, in my mind.

@dianamarquez4774

Жыл бұрын

I have the book and found it fascinating.

To be subjected to arrest, imprisonment, abuse, beheading, and tossed into an unmarked grave is shocking...but to be exhumed, and subjected to an operation at your own funeral is the depth of evil.

@rogeredwarrddeshon5000

Жыл бұрын

After death she wouldn't have known anything. As the Bible says, the dead know nothing.

@johnmortimer1308

Жыл бұрын

Still extremely disrespectful

@joolaloola3402

11 ай бұрын

I think it was 'oration' not operation. The narrator was not very fluent in either French or English

@joolaloola3402

11 ай бұрын

@@willheheckaslike8315 It did make me chuckle though, to actually believe that they would operate on someone at their funeral ...and that of all the atrocious things they did to Marie Antoinette, this is where they'd draw the line!

Love your work. Keep the analysis coming. 👍💲

Why not run DNA in both bodies to determine who they really are?

Just found your channel really enjoyed it subbed

It's disgraceful the way Marie Antoinette and Louis were treated. I also read what they did to Marie Antoinette's friend Princess de Lamballe 😢

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

Yes. Shocking really. Don't you ever wonder why the population would do such things to these people? The truth is, charges trumped-up against them are false. A better explanation exists. This channel in particular (alongside modern historians) seeks to hide that behind fake likenesses.

@pimpompoom93726

11 ай бұрын

And how they treated the Dauphin.

I feel so sad about this story

Queen Marie-Antoinette should always be referred y her full name. Never just « Marie”…

@selecttravelvacations7472

Жыл бұрын

Her full name is much longer than that and nobody is going to call her by that full name. Queen was her title, not her name. It was also the reason she died. Something tells me she could care less now.

@AmyHoldaway27

Жыл бұрын

A good idea to refer to her as Marie Antoinnette, since all of her sisters, had the name Marie somewhere, but she is the only Marie Antoinette.

@brontewcat

Жыл бұрын

I think she was referred to as Antoinette, but that is quite familiar.

@angelaclements1244

Жыл бұрын

Seriously 😅

If she was so widely hated and despised, then why would anyone even care where she was buried ?

Marie Antoinette was not responsible for the dire poverty of her subjects! She lived an insular life and knew virtually nothing about what went on outside the palace wall. Unlike how she's depicted here, she was a compassionate person and gave money to various organization to help those less fortunate including children. One thing that's untrue is she never said "Let them eat cake" when told of bread shortages. It's wrong to depict her as almost an ogre! Do more research and practice pronunciation of names please!

Well said.

She was a child when when married and thrown into her roll as queen. Seriously, how many of our own children are spoiled and have no regard for anyone but themselves because everything has always been given to them?

@cisuminocisumino3250

Жыл бұрын

I mean you can literally say the same for most rulers in ancient times male or female, many of them were put in positions of responsibility and power quite young. That isn't an excuse.

This is too sad and macabre for me to continue to listen.

Girl how I like your videos. Like the way you talk

I've been to St. Denis. Even in that extraordinary place, Marie-Antoinette's statue is... arresting. Heartbreaking. Recommend looking for photos when you get a chance. You'll see.

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

All depictions of this woman are false. One of the best kept secrets is the true identity of European monarchs.

It’s hard on the ears to hear the majority of these names (st Denis, Angoulême, etc) so terribly mispronounced

@sillystephys7123

Жыл бұрын

It’s hard on the eyes to read this comment. The creator of this chapel likely isn’t a native speaker. Know what she does know how to do? Make excellent content.

The picture of the queen as having very little sympathy for her subjects is at least partly a myth. She never said the words she has been rumoured to, and "famous for" having said. That was propaganda against her- Thank You for interesting information

Has the french revolionary committee send or exile her back to his native austria.she might just fade into a obscurity.

You have a very beautiful voice, the tempo was excellent, and the pictures - especially that of the head was/ is astonishing. But I miss more facts on that Madame Taussaud saved the head and did a wax copy of it. Your English sounds flawless to me, a swede, but it is a pity that your pronounciation of all the french names are totally English (even Saint Denis). It would have lifted the narrative if the names where pronounced in french!

May we speak a moment about pronunciations? I usually read subtitles along with these videos to avoid word confusion. I’m a retired college professor who has researched the French Revolution my entire life. My French is more than passable. However, without subtitles, I’d often be unable to discern your intent. I don’t know who writes the scripts, but it would greatly heighten the impact of these videos if someone were to proofread along with you and point out specific words and names that need clarification. For example, when you list the charges brought against Marie-Antoinette, you say that she was suspected of “sending thousands of lives to Austria.“ The word you need is “livres,” not lives. A “LEE-vruh” was a denomination of money. The two words may look similar, but they’re worlds apart in meaning. In another video, I noticed you said “the palace of the revolution.” “Place” is correct, though in French, it’s simply “plahss.” Saint Dénis looks more complicated than it is, though it isn’t pronounced “Denny.” “Den-EEE” is fine, though. “Guillotine” will always be pronounced “Gee-yoh-teen.” It’s a bit more contracted than that, but remember that it doesn’t have “gills.” Why don’t you let me go over your scripts with you? I catch everything! With a little tightening, your videos would be useful in academic applications.

@healingandgrowth-infp4677

Жыл бұрын

Why would she pronounce guillotine, lives, palace of revolution, etc in French speaking when she is English speaking and it’s for a English speaking audience ? This doesn’t make any sense. It would only make sense if she is pronouncing French words or names wrong. And your comment sound very arro-gant or patronising. The video is not for academic audience but just a little background on history. And this is KZread not university which is only where you find professors not collages. Get a gr-ip. 🙄

@melissadawson4668

Жыл бұрын

This video was the first time I have heard her really struggle with her words. But yes, she did seem to truly struggle. Made it hard to not wince.

@jegsthewegs

Жыл бұрын

😂Blah blah, Pluke!

@anamariadonatelli9266

Жыл бұрын

Not al Pepelea are profesori .

@anamariadonatelli9266

Жыл бұрын

This must do to PRESIDENT of România & al parlamentari & guvernanți ! Steal the Brad & food from Pepelea . Starving. Make teme bilionari !😊

She is in my family tree..a relative. (On my mother's side. French). Unjustly executed! 🇺🇲

@janicegaypowers3953

Жыл бұрын

She was innocent! I read her story, years ago.

@indiasimble3002

Жыл бұрын

She was Austrian not French

@cisuminocisumino3250

Жыл бұрын

No one should have been executed, but she was definitely guilty.

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

@Margaretmaryyoung Do you have black blood?

Thank you for the pronunciation guide regarding "Saint Denis" but you had trouble pronouncing the other French names later on in the video

It is not true that MA had no compassion for the suffering of the French people. She was known to be kind. She had many poor families living at Versailles. She was however extremely isolated from the outside world so was indeed out of touch with many of the realities. The smear campaign against her was created by the French revolutionaries. MA was not without fault nor was the king, but neither of them were the wicked heartless people they were portrayed as by the propaganda of the revolution.

How long does a body have to be in the ground before you can dig it up?

The wrath of the French peasants that fell on Louis XVl and Marie Antoinette was actually pent-up resentment from the rule of his grandfather Louix XlV "The Sun King" who ruled as an absolute, and tyrannical monarch. Louis XVl's error was to fund the American Revolution against Britain to the point that he broke the French economy. But if he hadn't, the USA would never have come to be. Such is the irony of history. As for Marie Antoinette, all scholars know that she never said anything about eating cake or disdaining of the peasants or French people. Both the king and queen desired pathetically to be loved by the French people but were inept in their own ways. Marie Antoinette tried to live a peasant's life by setting up a cute little petting farm, and Louis got most of his satisfaction repairing clocks. There was a scandal about jewelry Marie Antoinette supposedly bought at an exorbitant cost while the people starved. This was the source of hatred against her, and it turned out to be a completely false rumor.

@hubriswonk

11 ай бұрын

I think they were prisoners in the Palace of Versailles surrounded by all those plotting French nobles for years at a time. Must have been an awful experience.

Very well done, I was only peripherally aware of the facts of the queen’s execution, but not her rebuttal.

The story is beautifully researched. Unfortunately there is a problem with the pronunciation of french vocabulary and names. It would have been nice if you had put more effort into this.

@noelt2238

Жыл бұрын

I do so agree.

@elizabethwoolnough4358

Жыл бұрын

The English is mispronounced too, which is surprising.

Those people had serious mental issues and a savage mentality

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

Well, yeah... but, there's deception at play here.

That whole "let them eat cake" deal was not true. I wonder where it came from?

@mango2005

Жыл бұрын

Louis XVIII later wrote that in his family someone is supposed to have said this, possibly the wife of Louis XIV. But which wife? Marie Therese of Spain? Or Madame de Maintenon? One of them perhaps.

@gwae48

Жыл бұрын

Badly translated.

@janicegaypowers3953

Жыл бұрын

King Louis’s Aunts made the remark!

@MrJohnnyseven

Жыл бұрын

She meant..."can they not eat cake?"....she was so isolated from reality she probably thought if there was no bread then cake would do ...

@michaelmontagu3979

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrJohnnysevenThe saying was mistranslated. It was originally brioche, not cake.

The historian Desmond Seward wrote a beautiful book on her, and he defends her in the book Marie Antoinette in 1981

I read somewhere that most charges were trumped up. Giving her accusers a reason to execute her. She was maligned by all but was she really that bad? It was indeed a dark time in French history.

@cisuminocisumino3250

Жыл бұрын

Not really, she spent lavishly while people were starving in poverty, I'm not saying she didn't care about the poor, but if you read about her life honestly, it's obvious that she's just as guilty.

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

@Maria. Your final sentence makes more sense than you know.

@delichus3875

11 ай бұрын

@@cisuminocisumino3250 she spent life as a French dauphine was supposed to. The money in the French monarchy was spent by French officials during the American revolution. Men in high places made up rumors and lies to make it seem like she was spending ALL of France's money for her own personal use, because they were afraid of being blamed for the downfall of France. Sure, she spent a lot of money, but when you are born and raised rich, you get used to that lifestyle. Maybe she didn't help French citizens who were starving because the money for the people was being used for other means by French high ranking officials. Though the system in France was really bad back then, its not right to blame someone entirely for a group mistake.

I went to the Conciergerie in Paris and saw the cell she had been imprisoned in. It was so small, with absolutely no privacy, which must have been embarrassing as hell for Marie Antoinette, but great for her jailers. It's a horrible vaulted building with stale air that looks like it came out of a horror movie. Yikes.

The title led me to believe I would see the exhumation. What a load of waffle.

Thank you for the history, but please do check pronunciation it is "funeral oration" not funeral operation", Saint "De-nis" not St Deny, etc

@meyou3566

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone speaks french….

@hughkennedy811

Жыл бұрын

For those not at ease using a foreign language English translation is acceptable thus reference to Cathedral of St Dennis, equally Piazza San Pietro, become St Peter's Square.

That is a lie that she had no remorse for the starving people. Just like the lie they told, that she said, "Let them eat cake".

Her death was nothing more than and act of spite and vengeance. Queens were generally spared death and were exiled or imprisoned.

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

...depending on how they actually look.

Orate means to make a speech, not to operate. The word is perpetuate and means to continue, or cause to keep going. When narrating, it's always nice to read the script through and have a rough idea of the correct term, or at least pronounce the term correctly even if the definition or context is unknown.

@elizabethwoolnough4358

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there were several mistakes in pronunciation, both in French and even in English, eg "obscenities" pronounced "ob-seen-ities".

Not trying to be pedantic, but is all this information correct?

@miltonkiller707

11 ай бұрын

No. It isn't. And... the correction would likely shock you.

I wonder if they will ever do a DNA check to verify it was actually her.

@meyou3566

Жыл бұрын

They have they have her actual hair in a historic locket that belonged to her mother which they used to dna test the DNA from her sons heart

@projektkobra2247

Жыл бұрын

@@meyou3566 -Awesome...is there a link you have to this?

@Ms7of8

Жыл бұрын

@@meyou3566 They ought to exhume the body entombed at St. Denis and test it against that DNA to ascertain once and for all if those are truly her remains.

@gisellesoons6583

Жыл бұрын

​@@projektkobra2247the book is The Lost King of France by Deborah Cadbury. It's thoroughly researched and well written but an absolutely heartbreaking story.

@projektkobra2247

Жыл бұрын

@@gisellesoons6583 -Cheers.

It was sad the propaganda against Queen . However a noble man lived next to cemetery witnessed her burial .He helped exhume n locate the Queen however it is said the King was pretty much decomposed and it was questionable that it was Kings burial spot .This cemetery was overcrowded in very bad condition . So idk wat is true . different stories .I would hope that it is the King entombed with the Queen

There is a plot of land / settlement near Wyalusing, PA close to the banks of the Susquehanna river that was set aside for Marie to escape too, yet she was intercepted before she could leave Paris. It bears her name to this day, and is maintained by local historian groups. Because of this there is a smattering of French surnames in the wider area.

I don't know much about Marie Antoinette. What happened to their children after she and the King were executed?

A LOT of spite and jeolosy and hatred came to the surface during this revolution. It was an evil hateful period and they even refused religious burial after their deaths. There is a church/chapel in Paris that was built for their burial.

Just goes to show how dangerous propaganda can be.

Marie Antoinette, the beautiful and much wronged queen.

They were able to verify her remains because they were able to identify her son from her and her husband to show they were correct. And apparently after she was beheaded her head was thrown between her legs as a final insult .

You mean "digging up a decomposed female body".. Talk about 'altered perception', lol!

How + Y she was captured was the fault of her husband the king! He demanded a full feast 4 his lunch That's HOW they got caught when they had stopped at a tavern!

"Let them eat cake," Very poor choice of words.

So sad and evil what happened. Thank you Jacobins. Same thing in Ukraine! Thank you Bolsheviks!

I have read Antonia Fraser's book and have visited Paris and the place where she died. America shares in her fate, thusly. We were losing the War with England and begged Louis XVI for money to finance the war. France was bordering on bankruptcy, but Louis, simp that the was, agreed to loan the money to America. France had no bread, and Marie did spend extravagantly, but she did cause the downfall of France. She was hated because she was not French, but Austrian. Period. There is so much more to her story, but most would not, lacking a formal history education, get it.

She was a kid, when she became queen.

@cisuminocisumino3250

Жыл бұрын

Many ancient rulers were kids when they became kings and queens, it doesn't excuse they're horrible actions towards the people

Histoire qui serait bon de le traduire en Français

I would like to watch a film about this. Be interesting to see a film all about Marie and her and Louis unfortunate demise 😢

I read that she had a. Peasants cottage built so she could go and sit in it. Outwardly it was typically poor but inside it contained the usual luxurious furniture. It seems she actually believed that is how the poorest lived. Of course she had no idea of the facts. She wasn't exposed to the real facts except to perhaps occasionally pass through a village it town, maybe even through Paris. On such occasions they probably had the curtains or blinds of the coach closed so the peasants (possible threats) wouldn't see if anyone was on board or who was on board. I doubt many of any of them had a clue.

@hubriswonk

11 ай бұрын

It was not just a cottage, it was several small cottages, barn, vegetable gardens and fenced areas for farm animals. Locals were paid to work the farm and it was not filled with luxurious anything. It was built on the backside of Palace of Versailles for the purpose of showing her children how a typical farm works and how the people live. The upper class did not venture out into regular society for many reasons mainly safety and disease. Today it is well kept and used for tours and educational purposes. I was just there in June.

That is not true she did have a grate deal of sympathy for the People she just did not have sympathy towards the mobs who were inciting Violence.

But what happened to their son they had in common ! The Dauphin or their children would be pretenders of the French throwne .

@janedenktasli3064

Жыл бұрын

The son was murdered also. The daughter survived.

@annetteetges2726

Жыл бұрын

​@@janedenktasli3064That IS wrong! The real son survived, the real daughter was killed with her little children some years later. The real son left France, he went to Germany. He married and had many children. Bye the way, the real son changed his name.

she was Queen of France, to my knowledge they never renounced.

I would strongly recommend that you put the French words and names into Google translate, as your pronunciation lets you down. Which is a great shame for such a good channel.

I would not advocate not ending the macron tyranny in similar fashion.

I'm in the UK & have just started watching the dramatised series.MARIE ANTOINETTE on BBC i Player.Also I watched VERSAILLES which is absolutely brilliant!!!👏👏👏

@amandaquezada2854

Жыл бұрын

Shame they cancelled Versailles. It was an interesting show.

@tishfox2858

Жыл бұрын

@@amandaquezada2854 Love Versailles....

👍🏻(a few linguisic tweaks would make it very Good).

Leave the Queen alone😢

Surely the word 'Place' in 'Place De La Revolution' ought to be pronounced 'Plas' in the French way? And 'obscenities' is usually pronounced 'obsenities'. not 'obseenities'.

@piplebref4607

Жыл бұрын

And let's not even go near the poor duc d'Angoulême 🤫

Plass de la revolution, not place.

Vae principum necatoribus execrationi devotionique omnium saeculorum memoriae exposituris !

I would imagine that you would have to dig in two places

The (Imperial) Russian Ambassador wrote to a colleague back home and lamented that the tide of social revolution he was witnessing in France would strike Russia within the next generation. Although his timing was way off, well as they say, the rest is history.

I love the topics of these videos, but I never finish one as the presenter's voice is without any emotion and she always ends up reciting who was in the procession, etc. which feels pretentious and unnecessary. The facts are spot on, however and she is to be commended for that.

Wasn’t evidence of treason discovered later? She allegedly wrote letters informing Frances enemies of French troops movement

She never sais that she was guilty !

Where is the exumation....?

isn't Grave robbing illegal ?

so where is the digging up part then.... ???? 😡

The pronunciations of the French titles and place names is so awful that they become amusing.