women: **dance** men: **breakdance**

@matyldazofia4792

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Bakedcakeyyy

Жыл бұрын

Me: broken bones

@lealowenstern

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bakedcakeyyy my condolences

@aazhie

Жыл бұрын

I wanna see all breakdance. If anyone can mop the floor in a breakdancing comp, it seems a gymnast would have an upper hand in the situation! XD

@Trahloc

Жыл бұрын

@@aazhie he has a couple videos where the division 1 gymnasts try some of the breakdance moves and it's amazing watching these dudes with intensely trained bodies fail at doing routines these dancers are doing. Then there's that one guy that pulls it off to show the rest up :D

As someone who admittedly doesn’t know much about gymnastics, I’ve always found the dance elements of the women’s floor routines to be so disjointed 💀 it always felt like they would do the most impressive tumbling passes we ever see but then they’re forced to stop and do the cha cha slide for like 30 seconds so it could be called a “dance” routine. Either both men’s and women’s floor should be focused on the tumbling passes, or there should be some way to integrate tumbling and dancing more smoothly so it doesn’t feel like “okay I gotta stop and boogie down for a bit for ‘artistic merit’ “

@gummynoodles9036

Жыл бұрын

True, it looks awful

@saddo.masochist

Жыл бұрын

off topic but that probably was the funniest yt comment I have ever read 💀 not the cha cha slide

@madelineleighyoung1748

Жыл бұрын

College athletes, at least the top ones, seem to incorporate dance elements pretty well. Elite gymnasts on the other hand seem to be less fluid with it, but their routines are longer and more complex

@anneb889

Жыл бұрын

Cha cha slide 😂😂😂😂

@nekesa6429

Жыл бұрын

i agree 😭

As a former gymnast I really liked messing around on the rings I wished women’s gymnastics allowed use of the rings on a competitive level

@c.h.u.d

Жыл бұрын

They don't allow it because you women can't do it

@elliesdream247

Жыл бұрын

​@@c.h.u.d tf? What do you even mean lmao. It's a skill just like everything else something you train to learn. I'm a girl, I love doing tricks on the rings. Just like how a guy has to learn and train the skill to master it, so would I. But my being a woman isn't a factor. Just time and opportunity

@c.h.u.d

Жыл бұрын

@@elliesdream247 females can't do rings on the same level as men

@Asmodea01

11 ай бұрын

@@c.h.u.d kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGqEuLOOfNrcg6Q.html

@los_zanji

10 ай бұрын

@@elliesdream247 Ok so heres the thing: The rings require mostly arm and upper body strenght. And women, no matter how hard they might train, could never get the same results as a man who trained it. This is also the reason why you don't see 16 or 17 years old guys competing against the top male gymnasts internationally, because their bodies are at a natural disadvantage that can't be simply pushed aside even by a lot of training. The only way to incorporate the rings into womens gymnastics would be to change the routines and exercises completely. But at that point it probably wouldn't be very interesting, because the whole strenght aspect would be missing which is crucial to mens rings.

Male athletes get to just be athletes. Female athletes have to look pretty while they do it. I wonder what would happen if the women were allowed to just focus on the athletics, or if the men had to look pretty, too? Either way, I'd love to see it!

@marywood8794

8 ай бұрын

This is part of why there has been push back now that more and more women in gymnastics are moving more towards strength and athleticism as opposed focusing on just looking pretty.

@kristoffereberius2476

7 ай бұрын

Hopefully they see Wushu as an option. Men and women perform the same

@fast1nakus

7 ай бұрын

Nobody would watch them. 😂

@DenerWitt

7 ай бұрын

Men would look silly and women's sports would be like mens... but worse.

@beckyd3546

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it's called a drag show and butch.

I want men's floor to have required dance elements and music.

@mdml0

Жыл бұрын

I've seen men do balance beam and uneven bars and they do it so well.

@avery3893

Жыл бұрын

Same it would be so fun to watch

@AabluedragonAH

Жыл бұрын

Give me that street dance floor routine!

@Appaddict01

Жыл бұрын

No, I’d rather see women get the option to do only tumbling.

@dazc

Жыл бұрын

95% of male gymnasts would hate that rule change. we’re used to what we’re used to and we like to leave the dance elements to the girls

Another significant difference is that women generally compete at the Olympic level when they are in their teens. Men’s gymnastics favors an adult body and musculature.

@rrs_13

Жыл бұрын

You start being old for most "air" and acrobatic stuff after puberty ends, as a guy. It's stuff like rings and similar things that require the typical adult male strength that prolong a male gymnasts life in competition. I remember saying I was getting old for tumbling at the age of 19, and I went for the rings. We get stronger, but less agile. It is just what it is, gymnastics are very physically demanding sports, regardless of female or male modalities, and you pass your prime at a very young age.

@zoundstreetop

Жыл бұрын

@@rrs_13 it probably also has something to do with size. 🙃 physics

@rrs_13

Жыл бұрын

@@zoundstreetop I'm not tall by any means, and when you get into competitive gymnastics either it thwarts your growth or you get too tall to be competitive so you leave. It's really about being able to keep the extremely fit shape that is required for stuff like tumbling, and the strenuous training it requires. I had two crushed disks at the age of 21, and I quit my dreams of being a ninja (joking) very early because my wrists and ankle cartilages were just used up, and to this day every step I take my ankles crack; according to our club's physician, tumblers often get to their 20's with the joint wear of a 40 year old. The ability of your body to tolerate extreme joint abuse is also something that filters gymnasts.

@jennabell7992

10 ай бұрын

Yeah unfortunately for females, puberty causes your hips to get wider and heavier cuz the female body prioritizes fertility over physical strength and agility. Most girls I knew growing up (myself included) hit a bit of a plateau in their progress once they hit puberty.

@jeffthechristian3010

9 ай бұрын

Isn't the average age of the women at the Olympic level rising? Thirty years ago, a woman was at her gymnastics peak at 14-18 years. Simone Biles did not get that memo.

I’m female but always did men’s gymnastics cause I hated beams and loved rings. I was amazing at it and was the first girl to cross over. It was fun and I’m glad they let me.

@Bishop_of_Llandaff

9 ай бұрын

That's awesome. Do you have any videos? I've never seen a woman on the rings

@ivoryas1696

9 ай бұрын

​@@Bishop_of_Llandaff I can remember the last time _I_ have either. Same question here!

@ivoryas1696

9 ай бұрын

@@leol9257 Bruh, what?

@bottomtext251

8 ай бұрын

​​@@leol9257Bruh be quite weirdo

@silentbliss7666

8 ай бұрын

​@@leol9257may 'she' identified herself as a female

It's kinda weird how performative women are forced to be compared to men. Like the actual physical achievements aren't interesting enough to watch them do it. Or like men aren't allowed to add an artistic/performative element. It's kinda odd. You'd think if all of them do awesome stuff in floor and people think "this would be even better with music and cool moves" then... surely that would be the case for all of them...

@deborahhanna9126

Жыл бұрын

There used to be lots of other moves allowed that are outlawed in both categories now (ostensibly for safety) but it made the routines so much less creative and interesting to watch. I truly believe there is a fear among judges that if the men are allowed dance or other 'expression' then the judges would feel uncomfortably questioning if that makes them homosexual to be looking at other men's bodies so intently to judge them.

@roddo1955

6 ай бұрын

Its not that deep. Why is every difference suddenly a sign of societal and political injustices?

@kaboomsihal1164

6 ай бұрын

@@roddo1955 "it's not that deep" then what is the problem? Why can't they wear whatever works for them? Your comment is a lovely example of the dead fish in every discussion. Contributes nothing and tries to win by making everyone disgusted by them. No. It's not "deep". It's very simple and surface level. Which is why it only takes a tiny shred of common sense to see that this is idiocy in the name of gender stereotypes. There is no reason to not let them wear whatever they want since clearly both options are suited for the sport. No reason at all if what you are in the sport for is simply an appreciation for their physical achievements and artistic performance.

@ceilipatrick4481

4 ай бұрын

This is why I love figure skating, for this exact reason

@anon551

4 ай бұрын

​@@kaboomsihal1164 How did you change the conversation from the routines to the outfits? Those are 2 different conversations. In your first comment, you mentioned only the routines and that's what @roddo1995 commented on. Now you've changed the entire topic to outfits.

And the men don't have to keep an insipid smile on their face the whole time during their routine.

@holliswilliams8426

Жыл бұрын

it's pretty common in a lot of performance artists for performers to smile as otherwise looks like they are miserable and don't want to be there

@frankmartinez2987

Жыл бұрын

Is there a rule requiring ladies to smile during their routines?

@Panda-xd5ey

Жыл бұрын

@@holliswilliams8426 except they aren’t really artists in that sense. They’re athletes. And no matter what sport, athletes shouldn’t have to worry that the judges think they’re mean mugging them while their body is experiencing several Gs of force.

@x6da9crain

Жыл бұрын

They also do more passes...

@MisticStyles

Жыл бұрын

Nice use of "insipid" 👌🏿

One thing I hate about women's gymnastics (that I don't notice in men's) is that they're required to smile all throughout the routine. And they're required to smile when they stick a landing. It's stupid, performative and feels very out of touch with the reality we live in today but idk.

@irok1

Жыл бұрын

Same with the dance part

@wowie2358

Жыл бұрын

i may be wrong but i think men are specifically banned from smiling while doing skills

@mossystone584

Жыл бұрын

Men ARENT ALLOWED to smile, and a gymnast in the 40s once smiled as a protest and kept getting points off

@80sGamerLady

Жыл бұрын

Whoa! I never thought of this! Definitely needs to be updated. How ridiculous.

@neldormiveglia1312

Жыл бұрын

@@mossystone584 Now that's equally as stupid. I wish all gymnasts had the freedom to do their routine without feeling like they need to restrict or force themselves to "perform" to please the audience. Like, I understand there is a level of complexity that's added when the athlete needs to stay aware of what their whole body expresses, but not being allowed to smile if you want to smile or viceversa is evil.

As a figure skating fan, the lack of music for men’s floor is so weird to me. Like imagine if male skaters just went out and did three jumps and a spin in complete silence while women still had to do full programs.

LET THE MEN DANCE

@jesin0005

8 ай бұрын

They don't want to dance, thank you very much.

@yyyy-uv3po

8 ай бұрын

How about no?

@BrazilianImperialist

7 ай бұрын

We dont want to

@viosavvy

7 ай бұрын

The women should stop "dancing", if you can even call it that. Just do the crazy tumbling and leave out the kindergarten choreographies.

@catmatism

7 ай бұрын

They have already done break dance 😅

The difference is that women’s gymnastics is sexualised and men’s isn’t. The skimpy leotards are a requirement women have protested to change. The floor routines are the worst offender by far though as women have to perform to music to show off a glorified contemporary ballet dance with ribbons or hoops or balls rather than the form and athleticism in men’s floor routines. It’s so stupid that the women also do crazy floor tumbling feats but are required to stop that flow to do the fucking Macarena while men’s is focused purely on form. Either make the men also do a dance routine or make the women stop.

@paul-ye3ut

Жыл бұрын

men also do unathlectic dance routines just not with ribbons like women he even said that in the video

@holliswilliams8426

Жыл бұрын

dude stop simping, the men have dance elements and I'm fairly certain that 90% of the women would probably keep dance elements if they had the choice as it helps them get into the flow of the routine

@tobene

Жыл бұрын

@@paul-ye3ut But they are not required to by the rules, thats the point

@rpsnider85

Жыл бұрын

Uhh...have you not seen the men also having to compete in form fitting skin tight tops and the only reason they are allowed to wear shorts is because otherwise you'd see the dudes dicks and balls struggling to breathe. Women don't have the equipment on the outside down there and so there's nothing to cover up that would detract form the sleekness of the look. Stop simping so hard that you can't use common fucking sense.

@MadFlenser

Жыл бұрын

You are confusing artistic and rhythmic gymnastics in your comment I think.

Also... guys don't have to wear speedos

@Spryzen_

Жыл бұрын

Neither do women… they chose to

@Ihchkciyiyhgifuofyr555

Жыл бұрын

​@@Spryzen_ Women wear what is required, there is no choice.

@jordanfires9777

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ihchkciyiyhgifuofyr555there literally is but ok

@woobeewooo

Жыл бұрын

​@@Spryzen_it's literally a set rule and when women have protested in the past by wearing shorts/leotards, they've gotten disqualified. Don't try to mansplain something you know nothing about

@1nicerboy176

Жыл бұрын

@@woobeewooo ​ @abc Women can choose nowadays, they can wear full length unitards. They dont need to wear those thight and ugly speedo things. The german gymnasts in the 2021 olympic showed it

One gets to wear clothes, and the other is forced to wear underwear

@johniii8147

8 ай бұрын

Oh the men have on very tight clothes too. One of things i love about the sport. Shows off the butt and bulge.

@Lord.alucarD

7 ай бұрын

You mean, one is forced to wear clothes and the other gets to wear underwear

@timl9724

7 ай бұрын

@@Lord.alucarD yeah, nobody wants to see the dudes like that, or any chance of it flopping out. Men and women are different. Let's stop fantasizing otherwise.

@moufettepokla5877

7 ай бұрын

​@@timl9724okay so the women have to be in basically underwear to perform so guys can get a look and you see no issue in that because "men and women are different", got it.

@timl9724

7 ай бұрын

@@moufettepokla5877 nah. Truthfully, both sexes would benefit from as little clothing as possible from a practical standpoint. But since sport is for spectators, nobody wants to see naked men flipping around.

Super informative video with no bias about what's "better" or "harder" or whatever. Thank you for the education!

@petros_adamopoulos

7 ай бұрын

Yes, unlike most comments...

This doesn't answer the question in the comment displayed at the beginning. It asked _why_ they are different, not _how._

@jdm3656

9 ай бұрын

Good observation.

@LilChuunosuke

9 ай бұрын

Lets be real tho we all know the why. 🙄

@ES11777

8 ай бұрын

Exactly 😅

@_Diana_S

7 ай бұрын

Because men and women are different, they have different skills, flexibility and strength, duh.

@briannalafrance8383

6 ай бұрын

​@@_Diana_S thank you, I was trying to find a comment that wasn't just "why do they sexualize women so much" its literally not even that bad. And most women enjoy the dance aspect of floor.

I hated having to do the dance stuff in my floor routine. I would have taken dance if that's what I wanted.

@nonplayablecharacter4815

Жыл бұрын

You should have to twerk

@KateLate____

9 ай бұрын

Interestingly, as someone who took dance for 10 years, I was more into the technique and precision. The worst part was costumes, performances and smiling. Fortunately that's not too often.

@SoulFullOfMusic81

7 ай бұрын

Me too and I also hated beams when I was a kid. Always ran to the rings and parallel bars, then coach would yell at me... and then I left. 😂

It should be simple for the women in gymnastics. If they wanna do a dance routine no one should stop them on the floor but if they don’t they shouldn’t be required to do it.

I think it should be split into artistic and strength gymnastics with both genders being able choose which they partake in

@nickeni3050

Жыл бұрын

Common sense has never been louder.. I mean see figure skating, speed skating and the other type of skating, people are free to choose which they wanna do

@noahlin8484

7 ай бұрын

Have you asked any gymnasts about this idea? Because I’m not sure most of them would like this idea lol

@erikburzinski8248

6 ай бұрын

​@@noahlin8484why not

@noahlin8484

6 ай бұрын

@@erikburzinski8248 because most gymnasts I’ve talked to don’t want that; it’s just people outside of gymnastics pushing for a change most of us don’t want. Also the strength category would be completely dominated by men and vice versatile for artistic.

@erikburzinski8248

6 ай бұрын

@noahlin8484 it can still be devided by gender but the sport itself would allow you to choose which you went into backed on your own will

i like that you seem to have posted clips of the GOAT of each event when you mention them! nice details!

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

How is Biles the GOAT of balance beam? 😂😂😂😂

@peytonjames374

Жыл бұрын

@@leykimayri i think it’s pretty self explanatory

@Weeping-Angel

Жыл бұрын

@@leykimayri isn’t that kinda obvious though?😂

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

@@peytonjames374 No it isn’t, Biles is not even close of being the GOAT of balance beam, lol

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

@@Weeping-Angel No it isn’t, unless one is an idiot. Are you one?

I want the mens to have to do a gravity defying flip then the Macarena too !!

@paul-ye3ut

Жыл бұрын

men do multiple gravity defying flips the start breakdancing

@timl9724

7 ай бұрын

Thankfully, most of the world doesn't want what you want.

I do gymnastics. I focus on my six male events. But on off days, I will go tumble the beam or do some unofficial and quite gnarly uneven-bar techniques. Gymnastics is actually very rigid and strict, but I do account my screwing around on the girls equipment as part of my strength and agility training.

i wish they both had all the same events (not taking away any events from either, but adding on the ones the they don’t have)…it’d be nice, and for the floor routines to both have music, or if they choose..to not have music and dance elements

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

I get it, but it would ultimately diminish the women.

@n4nao

4 ай бұрын

you can't have the same events on both sides, each gender has different types of training so it wouldn't work. buut i could see the men's gymnastics doing an artistic routine on floor

@emifukakado-msjoke

4 ай бұрын

@@n4nao when the different events are added, training would changes as well to include what would be needed for the new events.

Simone is just next level in terms of her abilities

@a4.10.10

Жыл бұрын

Fr I saw that and I thought my phone was glitching!

@aaronsmall1394

Жыл бұрын

She even has the ability to quit and still be seen a hero lol

@themonsterunderyourbed9408

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, her black fragility is indeed next level.

@ChiTownOriginator

Жыл бұрын

Too bad she's so mentally damaged she can't do anything anymore

@checkmattee222

Жыл бұрын

​@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 you're so bitter and hateful it's actually sad to witness

Difference: women are sexualized unjustly in gymnastics for pervy men, men are not. Why not let men have music and sexy outfits in their routines too? 🤔

@Numbll

Жыл бұрын

huh💀

@fromthemasses_tothemasses

Жыл бұрын

Sexualize 👏male 👏gymnasts 👏

@kkepy

Жыл бұрын

True😂

@walterhofer937

Жыл бұрын

Even sexier?

@allycat9592

Жыл бұрын

Your comment seems so out of pocket yet it's so undeniably true once you compare women's athletic attire to men's. Even in middle and high schools, girls' uniforms are 5× more revealing than the guys' for absolutely no good reason.

Jesus Christ, these people are so impressive. Gymnastics look so difficult and when they pull it off it's like they're weightless.

uneven bars is the best gymnastics event overall. It's just so cool to watch, so many interesting things they can do with them.

Exactly!! Thanks for posting. I’m a women’s gymnast and my friends get asked if they do the rings and stuff. I’m like no! We only have 4 events lol Edit: guys please stop the contention on my comment. Everyone deserves respect

@sportsstars4182

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@hudsonkerby2037

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@40appl3tab

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@bloodrainicorn6193

Жыл бұрын

Beam is fun tho.

@ASVAS

Жыл бұрын

Powerlifters with 3 events and weightlifters with 2 events be like 😐

I wish I did gymnastics at a younger age, but I would want to do all of the events. Like, imagine having the balance, grace, and flexibility of women’s gymnastics mixed with the intense strength and endurance of men’s gymnastics. You would be the pinnacle of humanity 🤩

That was not the question. They asked WHY.

Men's events are typically focused more on power and agility. Women's events are more focused on balance and flexibility.

Big fan of both, but they are so different. The skills required to do rings vs. those required to do beam are leagues apart and really impressive in their own ways.

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

They are, but even Nastia has done videos about how the women would not be able to compete with the men in any event, men's or women's. We have to appreciate them for their differences, but are better off not playing "who is best."

@Noodlepenis

Жыл бұрын

@@cobbler88 No, they are certainly better off playing to each sex’s strengths. Men’s beam would not be watched very much and the training for it does not align hardly at all with the events men tend to do best in, meaning they either have to spend time training for an event they are simply nowhere near as good at and in ways that hold back the events they are good at. For example, it’s difficult to learn how to do a flare on the pommel horse. You need strength, power, and coordination. It is also difficult to learn how to do a back walkover on the beam. You need flexibility, grace, and balance. The training for each are completely opposite, and training both side by side actually works to impede the others as learning the control needed for beam will also train you to be less powerful and explosive like you need on pommel, the flexibility you need for beam will make it more difficult to gain the strength needed for pommel, etc. Then you gotta think about the business side. You are now holding events that will retain less viewers. Comparatively not very many people will enjoy watching a man on a beam or a woman on the rings. They simply aren’t as good at it as the other sex, making it similar to the NBA and WNBA across different events, requiring one to take up the slack of the other, costing both. It is simply better the way it is. Of course a few changes can be made and should be made when and if necessary, but completely changing the sport’s structure isn’t it.

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

@@Noodlepenis I think I wrote in another thread that the men would be better but have to give up some size that's important in their own apparatus, so just keep them separate.

I think the biggest difference is that the men don't have to be constantly removing their leotards from their butts!

@IkesPimpHand

Жыл бұрын

Just like women's gyms, women have the option to not wear those swimsuit looking leotards but choose not to. Wonder why.

@OreoCookie324

Жыл бұрын

@@IkesPimpHand Its has not been officially added to the code there is no choice only one german team protested this but it has not been officially added... what can you not comprehend? Men☕️

@IkesPimpHand

Жыл бұрын

@@OreoCookie324 worthless femoids ☕

@pingvinai_irgi_zmones

Жыл бұрын

​@@IkesPimpHand shut up, you tool

@chucksglory7881

Жыл бұрын

@@IkesPimpHand are you a bot? Cause i see you everywhere.

Basically guys get to do full on gym except that one weird break dance, while girls have to be near bare skinned, dance around and smile while they try to preform or they aren’t good enough.

@alchemy3368

8 ай бұрын

Sounds about right. Women have to perform and dance and men get to do sport.

@los_zanji

7 ай бұрын

@@alchemy3368 Yeah, because dancing isn't sport 🤡

@fast1nakus

7 ай бұрын

​@@los_zanjiit's not, that's why we have two different words for them

@los_zanji

7 ай бұрын

@@fast1nakus My man really things ballet isn't sport haha

@fast1nakus

7 ай бұрын

@@los_zanji what's the competition in ballet? Is Streapteas also a sport for you?

make the men dance. i don’t care, just do it

@jesin0005

8 ай бұрын

They don't want to dance

@knuffelmaus7175

8 ай бұрын

​@@jesin0005most women neither

@timl9724

7 ай бұрын

@@knuffelmaus7175 it's about what most people want to see, not about what they want to do. Do what you want on your own time. Pay for the space, and have at it. No one is stopping you.

@petros_adamopoulos

7 ай бұрын

​@@knuffelmaus7175care to provide sources for that claim? Also, even if it was true, how would it justify imposing it on men as well, to make sure everyone is just as miserable?

@samkelly5045

7 ай бұрын

Instead of forcing the men to dance, why not stop forcing the women to dance? Although forcing the men to dance would make it more equal, it would also make some of them unhappy because they’re meant to be doing gymnastics and not professional dancing. Some of the women would still be unhappy cause they still have to dance, but if you stop the women from being forced to dance it makes both sides more equal while also keeping both sides happy

I hope they get rid of the music and dance crap. It’s beneath the dignity of elite athletes to compulsorily dance.

@innocehnt75

Жыл бұрын

the sad part is that they're hardly treated as elite athletes, they're treated as eye candy and softcore p

@mook_butt8037

Жыл бұрын

Right, because dancers could never be elite athletes…

@strangerthings88

Жыл бұрын

@@innocehnt75lmfao stop the crack

@pabrodi

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, fuck figure skating, artistic swimming, dressage, and artistic gymnastics. These are lower forms of sports cause they have to dance.

@NoriMori1992

Жыл бұрын

I don't want them to get rid of it. I just wish they'd have a category for both men and women that requires dance, and a category for both that doesn't require it.

You guys are super human that’s all I got to say ❤

EQUALITY!! Women need to have 6 events and men need to have music

@c.h.u.d

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the women would never be able to keep up

@justonetime6179

Жыл бұрын

Or men need to have 4 events and women have no music… and men wear the leotard lol

@subbefore-if7hc

Жыл бұрын

I’d like to see a girl trying the rings 😂 get outta here

@honkstheclown8631

9 ай бұрын

​@@subbefore-if7hcid like to see a woman trying the rings too (i love stronf women) (show me strong women with big beefy arms PLEASE!!)

@hooman9554

9 ай бұрын

@@c.h.u.dthey’re not competing against the men tho? I still don’t see the problem

Looks like gymnastics rules were invented by men based on what they'd love to see. They wanna see power in men and cover them up more than women, on the other hand they made women where tight leg-less suits and made them dance for them. If anyone doubts that it's a matter of visual pleasure, go see how when women in French gymnastics said they wanted to were large shorts or pants like guys, the response by the old male leaders of the federation and the public opinion was that "it's gonna be ugly and not hot to watch" like they were talking about s**ual entertainment instead of sports

@doxxmane

8 ай бұрын

why are you making it sexual now. you're wierd

@420sakura1

8 ай бұрын

​@@doxxmanebecause it is. We don't need sugar coating these things in the 21st century.

@macy-fg7ck

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, they were definitely invented by men. I think that the woman should be allowed to wear what the men wear and do the same tricks as then men, and the same for the men. They should be allowed to do what the woman do and wear what the woman wear (if they want to)

I swear Simone has found a way to defy gravity. That girl is the definition of dynamite in small packages. She has more power in her tumbling than any other gymnast that I can think of

@thedoublea147

Жыл бұрын

Men are more powerful than her. She maybe one of the strongest women, but the men are still more powerful. She's also extremely short which helps with tumbling.

@gothgirl4evr881

Жыл бұрын

@@thedoublea147 I don't know I think she might give a lot of male gymnast a run for their money when it comes to the height she gets in her tumbling

@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaria

Жыл бұрын

@@thedoublea147 why do people like you always feel the need to tear women down in the comments? yes, men are stronger than women, we know basic biology. no one specifically claimed simone was stronger than every man out there so why not just mind your business? why can’t people just celebrate a powerful talented woman and that be the end of it?

@Bfolks84

Жыл бұрын

Simone is now able to do tumbling passes that men were doing in 2004.

@gothgirl4evr881

Жыл бұрын

@@Bfolks84 I don't doubt that for a second.

The women's dancing is completely unnecessary.

@innocehnt75

Жыл бұрын

men do need something to look at after all

@petalchild

Жыл бұрын

​@@innocehnt75 ew

@simplystreeptacular

Жыл бұрын

Tell me you don't know anything about the history of gymnastics without telling me you don't know anything about the history of gymnastics

@ludmilamaiolini6811

Жыл бұрын

@@simplystreeptacular well, I know gymnastics used to be very artistic, but I agree with OP… back then those dance elements were beautifully integrated into the routines. Nowadays it just looks awkward. The sport has moved to a totally different direction…

@g.0674

Жыл бұрын

​@@innocehnt75 disgusting

Anyone who can do those astounding feats are extremely athletic. This comes from years of training, working, and practicing to the detriment of every other aspect of your life. Is one group better than another? They are all incredible specimens of physical development.

I never realised how brutal the men's gymnastics is

Flairs remind me of break dancing so much

@BeautifulEarthJa

Жыл бұрын

They got it from breakdance

@cleopatrajones7096

Жыл бұрын

@@BeautifulEarthJa no breakdance got it from gymnastics

@holliswilliams8426

Жыл бұрын

and they kept it in as a semi-dance element

It’d be interesting to hear floor music and see some dance elements in the men’s floor routines. Just a thought.

@katejoyofficial

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

@thepH416

Жыл бұрын

I'd be interested in seeing that too

@Abc23867

Жыл бұрын

No

@trestonmalone5072

Жыл бұрын

@@Abc23867 didn’t ask but okay. You’re entitled to your thought

@Abc23867

Жыл бұрын

@@trestonmalone5072 I don't need your permission to talk now stop being fucking annoying

it just sucks how everything designated for men has to always be devoid of beauty. i hate watching male gymnastics because it subtracts the art from the sport. now male ice skating is true feminism

@jackmiller707

8 ай бұрын

Im not sure if youre just talking about the lack of dance-esk elements in MAG, but I would say that a large percent of people disagree and would say that mens gymnastics can be just as beautiful if not more.

@timl9724

7 ай бұрын

Sport is awe-inspiring. That is sufficient

I mean, the main difference I see from the outside is just the result of sexism. But that sexism certainly also encouraged enough men here to claim that the differences are because of biological differences. If that were the case, they would be doing the same movements but a bit worse and a bit simpler. Instead they are being sexualized. Sexy outfits, have to smile, have to dance and all that bullshit. Imagine watching women's weightlifting and every athlete has to twerk when they come on stage instead of just lifting the fucking weight. Or telling them no grunting. Smh

@erikburzinski8248

6 ай бұрын

The men have to specifically not smile

@-lxffyx-

6 ай бұрын

Men can’t smile and men are physically stronger it is a biological fact, they don’t compare men and women’s gymnastics, they have there own quality’s

@epicwoad8999

6 ай бұрын

Your weird 😂

@erikburzinski8248

6 ай бұрын

@@epicwoad8999 find me a normal person before saying someone is weird.

@epicwoad8999

6 ай бұрын

@@erikburzinski8248 well there is normal weird and mentally ill weird 😂

Only thing I can imagine while watching gymnastics is my knees exploding.

@c.h.u.d

Жыл бұрын

Yep and that's exactly what'll happen my wife did gymnastics when she was younger now her knees are completely shot

@dallasdrotts4907

Жыл бұрын

@@c.h.u.d Yup same thing with my mom. Chronic back pain since her late 20's, slipped discs, etc. It's a beautiful sport but it's one of the most brutal on the body.

Would love see men to do uneven bars and beam and see women do rings and pommel horse

Judges - we only like women who smile but get uncomfortable around men who do. That’s not sus at all.

Women's gymnastics is actually entertaining.

@lyd2460

Жыл бұрын

And that's why it's more popular.

Both should do all the events if they just want to 🤷🏾‍♂️

@importantopinion

Жыл бұрын

No, it is a sport not a kindergarten. You shold do what was required and not what you want.

@RubenAngelesOficial

Жыл бұрын

@@importantopinion I should be able to practice the sport that I fucking want.

@tallyink

Жыл бұрын

@@RubenAngelesOficial you can, just not competitively.

@dachicagoan8185

Жыл бұрын

Men on the balance beam? You crazy?

@RubenAngelesOficial

Жыл бұрын

@@dachicagoan8185 why? Do You think it is not hurtful for women if they get hit in the scrotch area? Tell me the reason gymnastics uneven bars is a femenine discipline?

The balance beam appears to me to be the most difficult event, mens or womens.

@thatplatypusguy566

5 ай бұрын

As a male gymnast, I concur. The beam definitely is the most difficult.

Gymnastics is such a beautiful sport

@dachicagoan8185

Жыл бұрын

Strength, grace and flexibility all at once

I’m in the women’s gymnastics and I’ve done vaults before. They’re just super hard, especially at my level.

People really do underestimate how difficult some dance/ non acrobatic skills are. I really wish MAG would require a dance skill

Tell me I'm wrong... gymnastics at that level is just sexist. Beautiful yes. But sexist.

@justinli826

Жыл бұрын

You probably need to explain your reasons. They likely have very valid physical reasons for reducing the number of events for women and the types. You don't expect women to do rings or high bar catch and releases.

@sznfong

Жыл бұрын

​@@justinli826 why though? This is a genuine, ignorance question. Why don't we expect women to do e.g. rings? Are men not expected to do e.g. the high beam?

@tscimb

Жыл бұрын

The music difference seems so random!

@aloci3370

Жыл бұрын

​@@sznfong because to do rings you need a shit load of muscles and tendons strength which is impossible to acquire for a woman

@theoboueid6450

Жыл бұрын

No, it's not sexist. It's the opposite. I feel like no other sport celebrates the beauty of each sex's biological properties quite like gymnastics. Men are biologically more capable of doing strength moves, while women tend to be more flexible. The differences in the events account for all of that.

What if a man wants to do the beam? Or a woman wants to do rings? Every other sport just segregates genders within the same sport. But gymnastics is for some reason two sports that each exclude the opposite gender? These seem like arbitrary differences that make no sense

@rhozq

Жыл бұрын

Yeah no sense for ur small brain. Its time to upgrade big brains

Also just the skills that can be done will be different/look different when executed, due to differences in weight, muscle mass, and centre of gravity

Great way to answer the question. Now we know exactly why they are different and not just how 😂

I used to do women’s gymnastics in school and I always find it interesting seeing the differences between mens and womens gymnastics from these videos.

An incredibly impressive sport. Huge respect.

Didn't that question that was burned into the start of the video ask why?

I would love to see music and dance in the men’s gymnastics! It’s the main reason I watch the women’s gymnastics at the Olympics. Gymnastics is actually usually the only sport I watch at the Olympics along with figure skating. I’d watch the men if there wasn’t just plain skill. Don’t get me wrong, I know it’s a hell of a lot of talent and skill, but it’s just not as interesting as the dance incorporated routines. 😊

@bruna9134

9 ай бұрын

100% agree

This is the kind of sport where it would make sense to let men and women compete in the other’s events

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

It would end up diminishing the women.

@Noodlepenis

Жыл бұрын

That only shows you don’t know the sport. The events and scoring are based around the different strengths both sexes have. Women tend to have grace and flexibility while men tend to have more power and strength. Grade a man based off how graceful he is and he will likely do worse than if he was to just muscle through it all. Same with the inverse. It’s why men don’t have the beam and women don’t have the rings. It just doesn’t suit the sex for the most part.

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

@@Noodlepenis The men would just train to be more graceful if using a different grading rubric. But they would also likely have to give up some size and power. Look up a vid with Nastia Luekin and Shawn Johnson watching men performing women's gymnastics. If we did lump them all together (which I realize no one is saying we should do), there would be no more female gymnasts.

@roddo1955

6 ай бұрын

I've seen videos of a guy who did tumbling and trained WAG events for fun. He could actually do a very good beam routine. Didn't have an actual dismount but the interior of his routine had spins, leaps, walkovers, back handsprings and even some Nastia inspired choreography!

As an elite woman’s coach, despite dance not being an “actual” rotation, we spend just as much time with dance weekly as per se, beam. My feeling is trampoline should also be a consistent rotation. However, the compulsory routines are 60-70% dance. I think it’s important for anyone considering women’s competitive artistic gymnastics, who want to do I seriously, they will do a ton of dance! And when I say dance, mostly ballet and possibly lyrical, depending on the coach.

@420sakura1

8 ай бұрын

Cam Women do the things men do? Like can they do 6 events

@Thetenacityofkassidy

4 ай бұрын

@@420sakura1I’m not a gymnast but they aren’t allowed to if they were they probably could do pommel horse and rings you would just have to modify it like people did with floor and vaults

Calling the flare unacrobatic is a bold statement.

@hooman9554

9 ай бұрын

Bro is literally breakdancing 💀

Well, could you imagine the number of men doing the robot during their routine?

@nottechytutorials

8 ай бұрын

I imagine in a separate timeline men could do dances but one did the robot and now it's been banned.

It should be equal and the same for both sex’s! Anything guys can do, girls can do, and vice versa!

@acafella11Music

6 ай бұрын

lol this is a joke right? It’s hard to get sarcasm through text sometimes so I’m asking to clarify. It must be sarcasm because you’d be quite uneducated in biology, physics and just reality if you really think that.

@acafella11Music

6 ай бұрын

I won’t waste the time going into detail but consider this, in this video you see a man doing a triple pike on the floor. Never been performed by a woman. Ever…. The release moves seen on the high bar. Never been done by a woman. Same for the vault.

@abyzz4419

6 ай бұрын

​@@acafella11MusicBro can you elaborate more about these Gymnastics? Are Men's Gymnastics harder? And who are the best at it? Men or Women.

@macy-fg7ck

4 ай бұрын

@@acafella11Music and if they were allowed to preform them then you would have seen it!

@macy-fg7ck

4 ай бұрын

Agreed!

For people genuinely asking “why”. It comes down to the history of gymnastics. While we can all sit here and talk about patriarchy and men wanting women in small, very skin showy outfits, for gymnastics, it’s about the purpose of the demonstration. Men’s events are designed to display power and strength, women’s events are designed to display elegance, grace, and precision. Overall, the sports were designed to highlights the epitome of both masculine and feminine athletic ability. Obviously in the 21st century our culture is working to deconstruct those previous ideals, which makes it seem like sexist, but it’s really a demonstration of what people viewed as peak performance for both men and women during that time. Men being strong and powerful, women being graceful and elegant. It’s not derogatory to highlight the differences in gender, but I can understand the abrasion to this notion. Overall, gymnastics is a dying sport, for both men and women (I’d argue is dying faster for men, but that’s a whole other topic). While some changes may create more attraction to the sport, others (such as forcing males to dance) may end up pushing people away.

I'm surprised that you didn't say that Horizontal bar, and the Uneven bars, though being 2 different events, have basic similarities. Because that is how it looks, and female gymnasts sometimes do their training on a single bar, making these 2 events look even more similar.

@roddo1955

6 ай бұрын

The bars on unevenbars are wider in circumference. The swing is generated from different muscle groups. You should watch men try to swing on unevenbars, they have to use a lot of strength just to gain momentum.

but i want men doing cool dances too 😢 i really hope the rules change so the athlete can adjust their routine to their liking, e.g. having music or not

@foosic1742

Жыл бұрын

It's a sport, you can't "adjust the rules to your own liking". Name one sport in existence that lets you play however you want

@vittoriabalanc5507

Жыл бұрын

@@foosic1742 🤓 i said "i really hope the rules change" not "the rules have already changed".

In many sports, unfortunately, we're still in the 1870s.

"Men don't dance...they BREAKDANCE, baby"

The fact that HB stands for horizontal bar and not high bar is very frustrating

The difference is the men's team is 0% minors and the women's team is 100% minors.

I have always hated that people are limited to what they can learn or showcase because of their sex. Ridiculous. Gymnasts are phenomenal athletes and should be allowed to showcase any skills they enjoy participating in, regardless of sex characteristics

@KitchenFSink

Жыл бұрын

Do you think women have the strength to do rings or parallel bars? The men are bulkier and more muscular and would look weird on the beam.

@OttoEmil10

Жыл бұрын

So u hate reality. Good luck with that.

@mogwai_

Жыл бұрын

@@KitchenFSink literally have seen many women do parallel bars for fun, and have seen them work on rings also for fun. It's a matter of access, obviously

@mogwai_

Жыл бұрын

@@OttoEmil10 Is it ridiculous to wish people were given a choice?

@KitchenFSink

Жыл бұрын

@@mogwai_ yeah for fun, not on a level of a male olympic athlete. See how many of the women can do an inverted iron cross.

Why can’t men smile I’m gymnastics and why are women required to smile? That just sounds so stupid to me that you can loose points for this.

The men's routines focus on their raw strength, power, and agility. The women, on the other hand, their routine seems like they have to integrate a more 'sensual' routine...almost as if, because they're women, they have to perform for "entertainment" of a different sort and I think it detracts from their full potential to also deliver raw strength and agility. All that 'cha-cha-cha' is totally unnecessary and cheapens their grace and fluidity!

@billcipher3946

7 ай бұрын

Okay

I, as an auto-denominated athletic person, admit and have the opinion that gymnastics is the hardest sport there is and gymnasts are the best athletes there is. You need strength, agility, guts, staying out from injuries at every second, etc. I have so much respect for them

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

Until you see them throw.

There is one part that you all ignore because sexism is pointed exclusively at males, when in truth, females are no different. Point? The men/boys aren't forced to wear skin-tight(nothing under them) gym clothes. If you have to pull your leotard from body crevices, you ought to be wearing something else. If your boobs frequently escape from the top portion of your leotard, while doing your routine, wear something else. Why can't females wear sweats or shorts like the males?

Thank you very much on a short yet profound explanation! It's interesting

I forget who the gymnast was, but she did a flare on the balance beam, in the mounting part of her routine. And it was awesome!

@drmgb

10 ай бұрын

That was Tracey Talavera back in 1980’s

@gatordragon8824

8 ай бұрын

It's a pretty rare mount to see these days, but I wish there would be a resurgence of some of the old cool mounts, that one included.

Shorts for women!!! Women should be allowed to wear shorts, in any sport!!

it's kinda stupid women have mandatory dance

I would consider flaring a dance move, since it’s also used in breakdancing

It’s really annoying how it’s got to a point where it would be great to combine and let gymnasts just do whatever routines they want but there just no way that would ever happen as it would be so unbelievably difficult

@cobbler88

Жыл бұрын

Combine sexes? Because if they did there wouldn't be a single woman competing in the Olympics. At least not from a middling to strong gymnastics country.

You also didn’t mention that the women are forced to wear long sleeves but bare legs and wedgie bikini bottoms (woe to the women that are menstruating during public competition) whereas the men get to wear tank tops and comfy shorts or tights. That sexist rule for women is being challenged recently. The rules for women in general go back to when they thought women were fragile. I think Simon Biles has disabused them of that archaic stance.

@importantvideos4529

7 ай бұрын

Love all the misinformation and claims of "Sexism" when women are allowed to wear unitards or even leggings so long as they match the leotard colors. LOL - Just missed that huh? Not only that, the code specifically has modesty guidelines as well to make sure buttocks aren't showing and even gives measurements for the cut on leotards to not risk showing more skin, yet WOMEN called that oppressive and "policing womens bodies" and there have been more and more women competing wearing far, far more revealing leotards that are definite violations of the code. Heck some wore such revealing leotards that they were docked points and were needlessly revealing. But yea, sure, it's men being "Sexist" - These women are CHOOSING what to wear, and CHOOSING to show more skin than is even allowed. #clownworld

I feel like men should have the dancing element or women not have it at all. If there is a show of rythym and skill to go with it men should have that as well. It's kinda ridiculous

I don't even do gymnastics but this video is very informative

Super interesting! Still tho... Why? How did it end up like that?

@Bre.Bre.

Жыл бұрын

Ok if I misunderstood your question lmk. The reason that we all have different events is because of how we’re made biologically. Men are typically atleast 30-35% stronger than woman. Men are typically stronger in their upper body so they focus on events with upper body strength. This is why they have more events that focus on strength rather than dance. Women on the other hand are biologically more flexible than men. This is why we have dance elements. Women are stronger in their lower body, this is why 3/4 events focus on legs. Also, women could physically not do rings. Women have muscles in our shoulders men don’t have. We would tear muscles trying to do it.

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

It didn’t end up like that, it STARTED like that. MAG has the origins in army training (19th century Germany) while WAG has its origins in dance and ballet.

@zottelhuehs6375

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bre.Bre. that explains some of the differences, but for the most part an adapted scoring system would be enough. Not completely different disciplines...

@soullessangel207

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bre.Bre. "women have muscles in our shoulders men don't have" what does that mean? we all have the same set of muscles if we're healthy, just different strength and fiber types proportions.

Men need music too 😭

@onlyfacts077

9 ай бұрын

I agree if male figure skaters can have music male gymnasts should!

One seems like its a performance while the other appears like an exhibition. Oh and the sections to do with upper body strength.

Yeah, why dont men have floormusic?

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

Because MAG has origins from army training while WAG has its origins from ballet. Two different disciplines

@matthiasannaberger2469

Жыл бұрын

@@leykimayri i dont care about the origin. Not having music and dance moves makes it arguably worse then womens floor

@leykimayri

Жыл бұрын

@@matthiasannaberger2469 Who cares about what you think? You asked why men don’t have floor music and I answered. Have you ever seen any army training on music? That combined to the fact that MAG is basically POWER and STRENGTH, not elegance and flexibility that WAG is which has originated from BALLET, are the reasons why MAG’s floor routines do NOT have music. End of story. It’s obvious that you have NO IDEA about gymnastics, otherwise you wouldn’t post that stupid comments

@toob_noob4381

Жыл бұрын

​@@matthiasannaberger2469 I'd say the flare requirements make up for it. I don't understand how you can enjoy that compulsary dancing. Just feels awkward to me.

@matthiasannaberger2469

Жыл бұрын

@@toob_noob4381 womens floor routines are so fun to watch, but from men i have only seen single elements. It sucks. Be fun and get the moves in

I feel like it’d be cool to see everyone be trained on all the events and for music to be a part of all floor routines

I like how instead of dancing the guy was basically Eddy Gordo from Tekken 3.

You get the sense men and women's gymnastics were purposefully made different on the presumption that girls can't compete with men. I mean sure, men are generally stronger but female athletes are certainly not soft by any means. Yet it's hard not to conclude that because females are considered the "weaker" sex that the various sports are/were changed on that assumption? I can't help but think the main reason the two sexes have their own versions of sports is so the men aren't constantly embarrassed by losing to or being out performed by the ladies in most areas of sports?

@brady4280

Жыл бұрын

You’re an idiot. Have you been raised in reality? Then you know women have been getting embarrassed at sports since their inception

@brady4280

Жыл бұрын

What kind of dumbass statement is this just completely disregarding reality.

@nedames3328

Жыл бұрын

Combine Olympic level men's and women's competitions and say goodbye to women in Olympic gymnastics.

A man would be risking it all trying a beam routine!

Basically, women's event has to be somewhat reminiscent of something you'd see at a strip joint.

@nottechytutorials

8 ай бұрын

Yes. Gymnastics looks cool, but I cannot watch the clips with the women, it's like a strip routine.