The Deprogram Episode 120 - Nerding about War (Ft. Radio War Nerd)

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War... war never changes. Until it does. Like, a lot. Join us on a journey through a life full of adventure and a controversial conversation about recent conflicts that plagued our world.
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  • @shanefoster2132
    @shanefoster21325 ай бұрын

    Oof, that intro reminded me of my grandparents. My grandma especially dedicated herself to church service in a small river valley town. When she passed, she gave the home (two stories) to the church across the street... They bulldozed it for additional parking.

  • @hylianmango8272

    @hylianmango8272

    4 ай бұрын

    That sucks but at the same time having more space for more church goers is more useful than a house with sentimental but not much inherent value.

  • @theoleadfoot2864

    @theoleadfoot2864

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@hylianmango8272 wtf dude

  • @guishenStreetB

    @guishenStreetB

    4 ай бұрын

    @@hylianmango8272pls be bait god pls be bait

  • @EnverHalilHoxha1917

    @EnverHalilHoxha1917

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@hylianmango8272the least soulles american:

  • @hylianmango8272

    @hylianmango8272

    2 ай бұрын

    @@EnverHalilHoxha1917 🇺🇸

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir29645 ай бұрын

    Hope you do episode on Myanmar civil war. The Rebel alliance is pushing back the Burmese Military which had been carrying out atrocities for Bamar Buddhist Ethno-nationalism like Rohingya genocide. Burmese communist party (Marxist - Leninism) is fighting on side of rebels

  • @Lolsout

    @Lolsout

    5 ай бұрын

    They're doing based work right now

  • @skywhauherferne79

    @skywhauherferne79

    5 ай бұрын

    I have faith in them but there are also liberals and opportunists. I believe they might be on the same page for now but their contradictions and cracks are already showing with their interests coming into conflict with the interests of the people. People call them out for monopolizing the revolution. I hope more people see the light.

  • @Turdfergusen382
    @Turdfergusen3825 ай бұрын

    Working class people unite! All races; rich and poor! If you work for a living and don’t own the business, then YOU are the majority. Stop letting them scapegoat and divide us. Stand together now!

  • @SmutnyReptyl

    @SmutnyReptyl

    5 ай бұрын

    Rich? To be honest small artisans are closer to working class than for example wealthy tech bro programmers.

  • @Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin

    @Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SmutnyReptylBut million sounds like billion (despite being 0.1% of it)! And well compensated labor can afford nice house and car! Clearly they must be ruling class and not just exploited labor aristocracy, right? And yes, there are even many petite bourgeois who's class interests more and more align with the proletariat as capital contracts and consolidates.They should be helped to recognize that and turn traitor against the class they are barely in.

  • @marcsimard2723

    @marcsimard2723

    5 ай бұрын

    Aint gonna happen Sit down, itll pass

  • @Turdfergusen382

    @Turdfergusen382

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin thanks. I couldn’t have said it better

  • @ThunderBucket-ws5jp

    @ThunderBucket-ws5jp

    5 ай бұрын

    @@marcsimard2723 The problem is, last time it past the Soviet Union killed 9 out of 10 of the nazi soldiers The train tracks we're on lead off a cliff, while all the owners scramble to make money off the decline We need the train tracks to lead to a hopeful direction

  • @Yatagurusu
    @Yatagurusu5 ай бұрын

    HOW IS HAKIM ALWAYS MISSING FROM THE ONES HE HAS THE MOST TO ADD TO, although maybe its for the best to not reopen wounds.

  • @a.s.8104

    @a.s.8104

    5 ай бұрын

    This guest seemed to be a liberal and the hosts accommodated to his liberalism a bit too much

  • @DinoCism

    @DinoCism

    5 ай бұрын

    I do like that the show is willing to talk to non-socialists but at the same time they need to have more actual socialists on. Someone like Rania from breakthrough news or Claudia de la Cruz from PSL. A theorist like Radhika Desai would be great. It’s ok to branch out but there are plenty of socialists on KZread they are missing out on.

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    5 ай бұрын

    Hakim's hours are pretty intense, he has even been looking for an editor for his own channel. So, while I do miss him and have a favouritism for him, we need to let good old Hakim sleep sometimes.

  • @KoIossov

    @KoIossov

    4 ай бұрын

    @@a.s.8104While our position on Liberalism is clear, I don't think that we have to make all of our interactions with them into an argument about the correct political path. There are other conversations that can be had that may still be fruitful, even if we have many disagreements. We may have to continue living with misguided liberals for many years to come, and while our stance on their ideology must be firm, I think we can still get along with individuals who are making an effort to be good people

  • @user-yh1nm1vy3i

    @user-yh1nm1vy3i

    4 ай бұрын

    Reopen what wounds?

  • @ringo8410
    @ringo84105 ай бұрын

    I'll admit that back my my lib days, I considered Afghanistan the "just" war and complained bitterly about Iraq. Now I regard them both not as "mistakes" but imperial wars that caused many of the problems (ISIS, the Taliban, etc) that the American war machine is dealing with today. Should also be noted that Genocide Joe is actively starving the Afghans as punishment for the empire having to retreat.

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    5 ай бұрын

    The "Syrian Free Army" is also putting ex ISIL leaders in charge while under US supervision. Which isn't surprising to those paying attention but dismounts the whole narrative about being against ISIL.

  • @ericktellez7632
    @ericktellez76325 ай бұрын

    With both the United States and Mexico having elections this year a great guest could be Kurt Hackbarth a journalist based in Mexico City with focus on North American history he is a contributor in Jacobin

  • @MechanicalRabbits
    @MechanicalRabbits5 ай бұрын

    I miss Hakim 😢

  • @cpman-zz8xz

    @cpman-zz8xz

    5 ай бұрын

    He is busy sticking his fingers in elderly people’s bums. It’s an important job, be patient friend.

  • @nicoruppert4207

    @nicoruppert4207

    5 ай бұрын

    It's so sad he left the pod😢

  • @Elliott_101

    @Elliott_101

    5 ай бұрын

    @@nicoruppert4207 seriously? for ever?

  • @a.s.8104

    @a.s.8104

    5 ай бұрын

    Why did he leave? Where he told about it?

  • @a.s.8104

    @a.s.8104

    5 ай бұрын

    In hakim's twitter it still reads that he is a co-host of the deprogram

  • @Schultz20
    @Schultz205 ай бұрын

    It was ISIS-K who bombed Kandahar airport during the American retreat, NOT THE TALIBAN!

  • @grulochris97
    @grulochris975 ай бұрын

    Yugo is right, indeed a brilliant episode. Definitely one of the best this year.

  • @DinoCism
    @DinoCism5 ай бұрын

    I don’t know how a student of guerrilla warfare can say “Hamas is not even a factor in Gaza.” Israel has lost more troops than in any other operation. They haven’t really been able to clear any areas. Obviously it’s an asymmetrical war but also Israel is notoriously casualty averse. I straight up hate when Westerners belittle and portray Palestinians as victims with no agency. That is not how they see themselves and not how they actually are. The ingenuity and perseverance of the resistance in Gaza will go down in history as one of the great resistance movements of the 21st century just as the Vietnamese resistance was in the 21st. That comment makes me think he must not be closely following things on the ground.

  • @marcsimard2723

    @marcsimard2723

    5 ай бұрын

    By this metric, the Ukrainians are kicking ass🙄

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@marcsimard2723 I mean, the difference is that Ukraine has an army and genuinely had more soldiers than Russia in the conflict for the vast majority of the war, relying on NATO beyond itself. Hamas is a militia formed inside a ghetto, they are a resistance faction formed from Fatah (in great part by the zionists fracturing Fatah from the inside and supressing Fatah while supporting Hamas). It's less that Hamas is doing well, but that they and other resistance groups are dealing damage while facing an extermination campaign. This is a completely difference context.

  • @copsuicide
    @copsuicide5 ай бұрын

    Y'all made it. I don't consider a podcast 'real' until they have The War Nerd on as a guest. Mass respect.

  • @brunocardozo3243
    @brunocardozo32435 ай бұрын

    Great pod as aways. Btw, when you gonna drop the one with João Carvalho? Your brazilian audience are begging 😭😭😭😭

  • @pedroalexandredillemburg3751

    @pedroalexandredillemburg3751

    5 ай бұрын

    Nem todos

  • @ericktellez7632

    @ericktellez7632

    5 ай бұрын

    There was one episode with a Brazilian one a few months ago, i dont remember if its the same guest probably

  • @Digo-eu

    @Digo-eu

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ericktellez7632Ian Neves came to the podcast once

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    5 ай бұрын

    Gaio Fato also deserves an episode, not to mention Jones Manoel. But then the podcast would end up very Brazilian heavy. 😂

  • @Digo-eu

    @Digo-eu

    5 ай бұрын

    @@LuizAlexPhoenix it’s bound to happen. Brazilification is the path of all things on the internet.

  • @RedYellowBird6889
    @RedYellowBird68895 ай бұрын

    Oh this should be an interesting one.

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir29645 ай бұрын

    Thanks Nerd

  • @peacockjive6847
    @peacockjive68475 ай бұрын

    Never expected this crossover. Love radio war nerd

  • @Damascene-Muslim-Arab
    @Damascene-Muslim-Arab5 ай бұрын

    Balls

  • @paraceratherium255

    @paraceratherium255

    5 ай бұрын

    Wow, this is the first comment…

  • @paraceratherium255

    @paraceratherium255

    5 ай бұрын

    🥇

  • @RedYellowBird6889

    @RedYellowBird6889

    5 ай бұрын

    Ah yes ballsss indeed

  • @user-pt1lv7mh5x

    @user-pt1lv7mh5x

    5 ай бұрын

    *Officer Balls

  • @Katyusha780

    @Katyusha780

    5 ай бұрын

    XD

  • @ristekostadinov2820
    @ristekostadinov28205 ай бұрын

    1:20:38 Macedonia mentioned, let's go 🤣

  • @deptusmechanikus7362
    @deptusmechanikus73625 ай бұрын

    Tucker put in interview? Put what in interview? He put what?!

  • @jmagowan12

    @jmagowan12

    5 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIN3uaShpafKdNI.htmlsi=2wsTxLLwDrqEQraI

  • @auroraofclanborealis

    @auroraofclanborealis

    5 ай бұрын

    No, no, *poutine*. Tucker did an interview about the Canadian delicacy.

  • @berdyderg900

    @berdyderg900

    5 ай бұрын

    What is going on!?

  • @angryyordle4640
    @angryyordle46405 ай бұрын

    Wow, i love the nuance in this episode. I really feel like especially with Hakim this is missing sometimes, but i gotta say this episode, as well as the recent one with 1Dime was really great!

  • @goutamboppana961
    @goutamboppana9615 ай бұрын

    guys where's hakim?

  • @joefrancis759
    @joefrancis7594 ай бұрын

    really interesting, thanks

  • @pedrohenryque1361
    @pedrohenryque13615 ай бұрын

    cade o joão, wheres Jhon?

  • @kirklandday
    @kirklandday5 ай бұрын

    That fallout joke in the description is something i think of every single time i hear that. ofc war changes and ofc some things remain the same. wow.

  • @ristekostadinov2820
    @ristekostadinov28205 ай бұрын

    1:17:51 i mean it's not really weird that Jokic dominates NBA, if you look at Yugoslavia's basketball history we used to be one of the best countries in world. Look at our basketball history, we are pretty decorated with medals be it Olympic, World Cup or EuroBasket.

  • @ZS-rw4qq
    @ZS-rw4qq5 ай бұрын

    52:02 I agree and a lot of people were sold on "they're coming for our wives and kids"

  • @pokemonrampagemake
    @pokemonrampagemake4 ай бұрын

    I take a lot of issues with the idea that collaborators are simply people who were oppressed by local powers and sought to ally with external ones. They are by all accounts simply opportunistic bastards who are willing to betray their own people and condemn many to inhumane conditions or death for personal gain. The conditions in Algeria during the French occupation were catastrophic, most Algerians were treated like animals, so when France abandoned them it was no surprise that Harkis got imprisoned or killed as they were actively assisting an occupation that killed millions and made the remaining people miserable to say the least. In the end collaborators are much closer to the occupiers than they are to their own people and they always end up learning the same lesson which is that the occupiers do not view them as anything other than useful idiots and will abandon them the second they become troublesome. I find it very hard to have any sympathy towards collaborators, it is actually easier to sympathize with occupiers than collaborators. Long story short don't be a collaborator, it never pans out and no one will save you when it falls apart nor feel sad for what happens to you.

  • @sami_is_freeYt
    @sami_is_freeYt3 ай бұрын

    Yes finally someone talking about the genocide in Bangladesh (East Pakistan back then) and what nixon and kissenger did. Just search 1971 mission searchlight and u will know alot

  • @elly7385
    @elly73855 ай бұрын

    A man of good taste. Aviation Week was the shit.

  • @nimzomitch
    @nimzomitch4 ай бұрын

    Kinda disappointed you guys didnt watch or have much comment on the Putin interview

  • @jmagowan12
    @jmagowan125 ай бұрын

    Soar Éire!!! 19:00 !

  • @alexmarkadonis7179
    @alexmarkadonis71794 ай бұрын

    While I think you and I have our differences with Varoufakis, I think it would be interesting to have him on the show sometime.

  • @commissarofpublicsafety
    @commissarofpublicsafety5 ай бұрын

    W upload

  • @DH-tz6wo
    @DH-tz6wo3 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised that the guest doesn't know the effectiveness of the resistance in Gaza. Jon Elmer on the Electronic Intifada has a lot of coverage on it

  • @marcsimard2723
    @marcsimard27235 ай бұрын

    Haha 37:29 The only way to survive id like the old Italian in Catch 22

  • @snowericsnow
    @snowericsnow2 ай бұрын

    nice Molchat Doma poster.

  • @kaptivatingstudios676
    @kaptivatingstudios6764 ай бұрын

    JT, Yugopnik, Hakim. Can you guys have a podcast with a channel called Corporate Aesthetic?

  • @dominicrouse2623
    @dominicrouse26235 ай бұрын

    Oooooooooh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!!!! Whaddup!!!!!!

  • @derpcreamcone
    @derpcreamcone4 ай бұрын

    Is there a country this man hasn’t lived in?

  • @commenterthe3rd
    @commenterthe3rd5 ай бұрын

    I love the podcast its nice to listen to a left wing podcast while doing chores

  • @Psteinz
    @Psteinz5 ай бұрын

    War Nerd'a got a low bounty.

  • @ackmedbinlama7179
    @ackmedbinlama71794 ай бұрын

    No more First thought? 😢

  • @paraceratherium255
    @paraceratherium2555 ай бұрын

    Nice.

  • @HyDeNsEeK123
    @HyDeNsEeK1235 ай бұрын

    Im sure watching an episode of my favorite commies during a week of work that makes me want to fight all my bosses will lead me to handliny things very diplomatically 💜

  • @joeyrufo
    @joeyrufo5 ай бұрын

    3:08 yes, Sam Harris is one of these neo-Fordians when it comes to his view of history 🧐

  • @WriteInAaronBushnell
    @WriteInAaronBushnell5 ай бұрын

    We have moved beyond the need for religion because we have invented air conditioning

  • @patricialongo5870
    @patricialongo58704 ай бұрын

    Us girls will listen to the boys, here. The all male review.

  • @mattyt3625
    @mattyt36255 ай бұрын

    😅😊😅😊

  • @nicoruppert4207
    @nicoruppert42075 ай бұрын

    War id 🪪

  • @leroitiaks
    @leroitiaks4 ай бұрын

    For someone who is a "war nerd", not understanding the strategic retreat of Russian army during SPO from Kiev to allow diplomatic channels to go through is a bit problematic. Worst, though, is not understanding why Iran is the enemy of izrael and daddy amurika, namely because it is the main supporter of the Axis of Resistance through weaponry, moral leadership and strategy.

  • @rajarathnamprasannavinayag3204
    @rajarathnamprasannavinayag32044 ай бұрын

    Pls talk to Indian leftie pls

  • @ggez-yc1ui
    @ggez-yc1ui4 ай бұрын

    where should you laugh? add some behind-the-scenes laughter, clowns.

  • @RadicalSoup
    @RadicalSoup5 ай бұрын

    Honestly, little off putting how much admiration is given to a feudal ideology that has been used as the main justification for colonialism and the worst aspects of modern imperalism on a supposedly Marxist podcast. Why is it a bad that Christianity is diminishing in America?

  • @patrickholt2270

    @patrickholt2270

    5 ай бұрын

    You'd have to have more familiarity with scripture to begin to know why, as well familiarity with the consistent radical and revolutionary tendency in Church history that results from the class analysis, condemnations of class society and commandments for drastic redistribution of wealth found all over scripture.

  • @colonel__klink7548
    @colonel__klink75484 ай бұрын

    "Ukraine tempted into war." The cognitive dissonance with this podcast is crazy. Did Ukraine invade Russia? No. Did Ukraine use irregular forces to seize and annex Russian territory? No. So... how is it Ukraine was tempted into war?

  • @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    3 ай бұрын

    It was 1. Run by an extremely anti-russian government that tried to eradicate all of our culture on their land 2. Joining an alliance that had a single purpose: to oppose (and perhaps destroy Russia)

  • @barbarapitenthusiast7103

    @barbarapitenthusiast7103

    3 ай бұрын

    With the promise of joining nato, zelensky would do anything to join nato. Unfortunately for him, they arent going to let him join no matter what he does. But they sure tell him they will. Its nato which caused russia to invade in the first place, as they treaten russia interests in the are.

  • @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    3 ай бұрын

    Nice to hear that there are people who are aware of that fact.​@@barbarapitenthusiast7103

  • @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    @user-dn5lr6lp4k

    3 ай бұрын

    @@barbarapitenthusiast7103 Glad to hear that there are people who understand that

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