SH!TPOSTING: The Art of the Internet

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A video about the artform known as shitposting.
Timestamps:
0:00 The Art of Shitposting
01:47 Introduction
04:41 What is Shitposting?
09:48 Surfshark
11:32 The Art of the Shitpost
19:12 Shitposting Cultures
28:33 Dada and Doomscrolling
35:31 Jo Swinson, Squirrel Killer
42:48 Conclusions
In this month's video, I (Tom Nicholas), take a look at shitposting. In particular, I consider what we might learn about how shitposting works and what its appeal is through comparing it to some historical predecessors from music and art history.
We'll be looking at the work of Marcel Duchamp, Dada and the experimental composer John Cage to consider what their work might have in common with Pepe the Frog, Dat Boi and Simpsonwave.
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  • @Tom_Nicholas
    @Tom_Nicholas3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! If you’d like to support me to make more videos like this, I’d be super grateful if you’d check out my Patreon at patreon.com/tomnicholas

  • @user-df1hv3co4p

    @user-df1hv3co4p

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was a really great video

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527

    @jacobrzeszewski6527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-df1hv3co4p Shut up otaku

  • @user-df1hv3co4p

    @user-df1hv3co4p

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobrzeszewski6527 Who you calling otaku, weeb.

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527

    @jacobrzeszewski6527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-df1hv3co4p Your the one subscribed to a bunch of vtubers!

  • @user-df1hv3co4p

    @user-df1hv3co4p

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobrzeszewski6527 well, you have a 200 video playlist of vocaloid

  • @noalowenstein6741
    @noalowenstein67413 жыл бұрын

    so sad to hear about the passing of sir lawrence slavetradercolonialism. im glad he's left his business in the capable hands of his son neo slavetradercolonialism

  • @marchi.fleming

    @marchi.fleming

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for highlighting that one, I was trying to come up with something clever but brain is just making empty dusty farts yet this morning 👍🏼

  • @Isoroku25

    @Isoroku25

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s far past time that the decrepit and outdated thinking of families like the Slavetradercolonialisms to cede the stage to more nimble and innovative entrepreneurs like Coltanmining Privatemilitarycompany, Looksnew Stillthesame, and Wagetheft Unionbuster. These fresh new faces are going to use their innovation and vigor to solve all of the social problems bequeathed to us by the likes of the Slavetradercolonialisms and the Stripminerubberplantations

  • @snowstrobe

    @snowstrobe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I laid a wreath at his statue...

  • @belegl.7721

    @belegl.7721

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure his close friend -Sir- CITIZEN Nigel Piss will be devastated.

  • @QueerPolitics

    @QueerPolitics

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Isoroku25 surely.

  • @LittleBlackFoxInali
    @LittleBlackFoxInali3 жыл бұрын

    I finally feel validated for my drunken rants about how meme culture and shitposting are actually the modern successors of Dadaism from 4 years ago

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have provided you with a bit of validation!

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @NorroTaku

    @NorroTaku

    3 жыл бұрын

    expect shit post are fun and dadaism is ultra toxic nowadays only pretentious normans prerentong to understand and due to the fact that no real dadaism is left there are only pretenders left

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NorroTaku I only read your first sentence, and have to say you got it exactly backwards my man

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NorroTaku not only does Dadaism embrace "fun", it's like the only same response to an ultra toxic environment or system

  • @Ryebread06
    @Ryebread063 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see that Tom is finally putting that PhD to good use

  • @WhichDoctor1

    @WhichDoctor1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kappa

  • @eruno_

    @eruno_

    3 жыл бұрын

    pogchamp

  • @Deadlyish

    @Deadlyish

    3 жыл бұрын

    TBH this is a far better way to advance academic dialogue than writing (or shitposting) esoteric niche articles for paywalled academic journals that will only ever be read by a handful of insiders and have no meaningful impact on the public.

  • @benbookworm

    @benbookworm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Deadlyish which is exactly why some academics like Steven Levitt have turned to podcasts that are listened to by millions instead of writing articles that are cited by 5 people.

  • @soulmechanics7946

    @soulmechanics7946

    2 жыл бұрын

    .

  • @rivereuphrates8103
    @rivereuphrates81033 жыл бұрын

    Yes Mr. Tom Nicholas i did find this video very "poggers," thank you

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad!

  • @rivereuphrates8103

    @rivereuphrates8103

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas oh wow you actually replied lol! Really love your work Tom, thank you for putting these together with such care and craft. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you've been enjoying some of the stuff I put out!

  • @vintheguy

    @vintheguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas You video is very based Even red pilled; dare I say

  • @kutubali8169

    @kutubali8169

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas American blue film

  • @blackeyedolive
    @blackeyedolive3 жыл бұрын

    You can’t just cut off the JC quote there: “Until I die there will be sounds. And they will continue following my death. One need not worry about the future of music.”

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, as much as it would have been nice to include the whole thing, the last bit kinda sent it off topic a little bit for what I wanted to draw on the quote for!

  • @blackeyedolive

    @blackeyedolive

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas yeah, on second thought, that’s true

  • @fionafiona1146

    @fionafiona1146

    3 жыл бұрын

    But Rafael is dead, nature might not be surpassed by art! I had to do a presentation on the pantheon (including the Latin on the graves included), including that first mention of said artist death being equivocated with death of the craft.

  • @foxgloved8922
    @foxgloved89223 жыл бұрын

    I’m seeing a lot of parallels between what’s being discussed here and what is discussed in PlasticPills’ video “Anti-Capitalist Art” - in the end he proposes that while art that was intended to disrupt has routinely been commodified and sold for huge sums of money, memes might be the future medium of challenging the status quo given that that meme culture incorporates hyper specific cultural signifiers and changes so quickly that attempts to monetize it generally fall flat.

  • @jkRatbird

    @jkRatbird

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for leading me to PlasticPills! Anything talking about the connection between art and politics is porn for me right now. If you (or anyone) got any more recommendations on the subject of art vs capitalism and co-option I'd appreciate it greatly!

  • @tinfoil6626

    @tinfoil6626

    3 жыл бұрын

    The hatred of mainstreaming memes is also a form of anti-cultural appropriation, the critique they gave to "normies" is the same critique marginalised group give to white people taking their cultural items

  • @marreco6347

    @marreco6347

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except that corporations a while ago realized they dont need to catch up to meme culture, they can just boost their own memes with money. Art has never, nor will ever, defeat any political system on it's own.

  • @williambrasky3891

    @williambrasky3891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marreco6347 Damn, you beat me to it. Memes will not set you free. It's important to remember why we call memes, "meams." As coined, a meme is described as an element of culture spread from individual to individual. The goal of all propoganda/ advertising is eerily similar to that definition.

  • @SplotPublishing

    @SplotPublishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Putting your own generation's art on a pedestal and believing it is so new that this time, THIS TIME, we'll do it boys! LOL Every generation thinks that. It's not THAT rapidly changing. And your generation, like all the others, will age. This too will become just a part of the larger cultural environment, and your grandkids will laugh at how you thought you were accomplishing something. BTW, people are ALREADY monetizing them. "Falling flat" for whom, exactly? Oh, your crew of angry and disaffected meme makers don't think those things are cool? You know who doesn't give a shit? The people making money off them. Sorry for the negativity, it's just, when you've been around for a while, you start realizing you've heard all this before, and it starts to chaffe.

  • @donniejefferson9554
    @donniejefferson95543 жыл бұрын

    The main message that I'm getting from this is that someday the most stuck up people in our society will go to an opera house and, instead of the expect music being played, there will just be a Rick Astley recording played before everyone is told to go home. They will stand and cheer as they have been hit with one of the greatest pieces of art ever created.

  • @clairemacphee4273

    @clairemacphee4273

    Жыл бұрын

    if someone told me this had already happened at nuit blanche or some modern art museum, i wouldn't even be surprised

  • @kickinit7881
    @kickinit78813 жыл бұрын

    what a fantastic analysis, never expected the garbage dumps i post on my instagram at 3am to have historical transgressive ties and dadaist tendencies thanks tom

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, very pleased to have provided you with an excuse to do some more of that insta shitposting.

  • @crunchylettuce5446

    @crunchylettuce5446

    Жыл бұрын

    Instashits, if you will

  • @unlearningeconomics9021
    @unlearningeconomics90213 жыл бұрын

    One of the many great things about your channel is the fact that you bring a genuine entusiasm and a willingness to do serious analysis in an age of shitposting and detached irony. Nice video!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I appreciate you saying so! I think TheLitCritGuy (whose channel is fantastic) refers to this as “sincereposting”, which I quite like!

  • @cosmoreverb3977
    @cosmoreverb39773 жыл бұрын

    I didn't realize Tom Nicholas saying poggers was something I needed to hear

  • @Akumasama

    @Akumasama

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was, in fact, quite poggers.

  • @50-50_Grind

    @50-50_Grind

    3 жыл бұрын

    Next he'll say "Gnibnobs", "Knartings" or "Jingbams" What? You don't know what those mean? Pfft, you must be a normie!

  • @steveurkelfromgoosebumps1965

    @steveurkelfromgoosebumps1965

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly. It's what we all needed in these dire times

  • @janefkrbtt

    @janefkrbtt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@50-50_Grind your age is showing.

  • @50-50_Grind

    @50-50_Grind

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@janefkrbtt I'm 42.

  • @maevemonroe
    @maevemonroe3 жыл бұрын

    When I woke up this morning I did not know that I was going to learn how Marcel Duchamp was the granddaddy of Simpsonwave.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have been of service!

  • @tjerkhiddevanderwerf5602

    @tjerkhiddevanderwerf5602

    3 жыл бұрын

    Simpsonwave feels almost as distant as Duchamps by now

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finally Duchamp makes an entrance

  • @HiDefHDMusic

    @HiDefHDMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve honestly always admired the fountain, nothing quite feels like the first time you walk through a doorway in a museum and seeing a urinal there and being like “hmm, you know, if this was a bathroom I could pee on that, but here in a museum it’s actually quite frowned upon, how delightful”

  • @RatPfink66

    @RatPfink66

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shannonm.townsend1232 seeing as Duchamp never tried the same medium twice, he a) made a lot of entrances and b) was the granddaddy of a lot of stuff. perhaps we should say the baby-daddy.

  • @Visplight
    @Visplight3 жыл бұрын

    You should examine the "Storm Area 51" meetup event for "when shitposting goes offline."

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do wonder what it was like for the people that actually turned up. I imagine it just being really awkward, haha...

  • @nickapvikes

    @nickapvikes

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/e45rqJh-fLKTmLQ.html

  • @Kfroguar

    @Kfroguar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas Amanda of Swell Entertainment went, IIRC. It was mostly just a bunch of UFO dorks having a good time.

  • @mitchelldurward8863

    @mitchelldurward8863

    5 ай бұрын

    The internet historian already did a truly amazing piece on all the outcomes of that.

  • @LordFrypan
    @LordFrypan3 жыл бұрын

    Might be a worthwhile addendum : LHOOQ, reading "elle a chaud a cul" can be understood as "she's horny", might be a tongue in cheek reference to the conversation surronding the Mona Lisa's "myesterious smile"

  • @sophiejones7727

    @sophiejones7727

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, tho that conversation wasn’t all that big outside of art history circles at the time. That being said though, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the lady in the portrait is horny. Just making that observation though would be shocking and threatening to the power of the elite. The “mystery” of Mona Lisa’s smile is actually more of a cultural artifact than the painting itself. Being Captain Obvious pulls the rug out from under the pretensions of the elite art collectors: exposing the fact that most of them don’t know much about art (or life for that matter).

  • @grandsome1

    @grandsome1

    3 жыл бұрын

    A modern anglo-version of this would be "DTF", then.

  • @grmpEqweer

    @grmpEqweer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grandsome1 Thirsty.

  • @dylanrodrigues
    @dylanrodrigues3 жыл бұрын

    You just keep on serving us bomb ass content, what did we do to deserve this?

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I very much appreciate you saying that and am glad you've been enjoying some of what I've been putting out!

  • @sararichardson737

    @sararichardson737

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s quite good. Just discovered.

  • @asdkotable
    @asdkotable3 жыл бұрын

    That intro is just... *chef's kiss*

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @asdkotable

    @asdkotable

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas S-sempai noticed me!❤️ I love your work, Tom!

  • @reidwallace4258
    @reidwallace42583 жыл бұрын

    How about those norse runes they found a few years back way up on a cave wall that just said 'This is high'? Like, if that isn't the oldest recorded shitpost idk what is.

  • @antinverbose229

    @antinverbose229

    2 жыл бұрын

    wait a minute is this real? i need to know

  • @reidwallace4258

    @reidwallace4258

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antinverbose229 IDK man, this is a year old post I likely made stoned AF at 3am... but I do seem to remember reading about that some time ago, so I think stoned me of the past was fairly sure it was true. I mean think about it, hell just go to a local hiking path and see some of the stupid shit carved on park benches... wouldn't it really be weirder if nobody had ever carved 'this is high' into a hard to reach place in norse runes?

  • @meis18mofo77
    @meis18mofo773 жыл бұрын

    last time I was this early I had an original end to this sentence

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have timed it well for you!

  • @mynameismynameis666
    @mynameismynameis6663 жыл бұрын

    great vid as always!. might add that mozart was such a troll, when he noticed that one of the sopranist would always lift and bow her head between high and low notes, he wote a solo full of octave jumps particularily for her "so she may unscrew her head"... or something along those lines...

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was going to mention his scatalogical compositions but the video was already 45 minutes long!

  • @aoukoa607
    @aoukoa6073 жыл бұрын

    I literally wrote my English critical essay grade 12 diploma exam on a shitpost and somehow got 100%. Lol.

  • @semilorekaji-hausa2078

    @semilorekaji-hausa2078

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fuck yeah

  • @hughcaldwell1034

    @hughcaldwell1034

    3 жыл бұрын

    I carefully worked some relevant Game of Thrones material into an otherwise down-the-line essay on power and conflict. I fell short of a perfect score by 1 MARK. Hate you so hard :P

  • @SalohcinQE
    @SalohcinQE3 жыл бұрын

    What struck me when you defined the 2 types was how often I've seen people claiming that they're doing aimless when they're really doing disruptive.

  • @sunhead2573
    @sunhead25733 жыл бұрын

    This guy gives an incredible amount of Ramsay Snow vibes.

  • @stevenoviedo541

    @stevenoviedo541

    3 жыл бұрын

    God I thought I was alone. He just itches the "I've seen him before".

  • @sophroniel

    @sophroniel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you from England? He just looks like every second normal lad to me XD

  • @stevenoviedo541

    @stevenoviedo541

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sophroniel that's the thing. For foreigners the normal lad look it's not "normal" therefore the comparison

  • @yes0r787

    @yes0r787

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tom Nicholas is a gift to KZread viewers. I love his voice and content. However, you are correct... I couldn't put my finger on it but now I'll never forget.

  • @victorconway444

    @victorconway444

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Ramsay Snow if he didn't look like he was possessed by the Exorcist demon.

  • @grimbelfix2648
    @grimbelfix26482 жыл бұрын

    I've founded a religion based on the belief that Martin Luther's 95 thesis were the first modern shitpost and that every Shitpostee should strive to shitpost so hard that organizations which existed for hundreds of years are ripped apart by the sheer impact of one's shitpost.

  • @mikhailagray7519
    @mikhailagray75193 жыл бұрын

    Tom legitimately sounded like my mum when he said "Poggers"...

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    When everyone was taking the piss out of Ben Shapiro for awkwardly reading out the words of WAP, I decided to hold back because I knew that, had I done it, I would have sounded exactly the same...

  • @philosophyfraillon9362
    @philosophyfraillon93623 жыл бұрын

    An academic video essay on shitposting is the content I didn't know I wanted but absolutely needed

  • @ShadaOfAllThings
    @ShadaOfAllThings3 жыл бұрын

    I look at Shitposting as an extension of The Fool, that archetypal tendency of humanity to try and make people laugh as you speak truth to power in a way that only someone not tied up in the social mores and norms of someone who does value something sincerely. Sometimes the truth is "This site is boring, why are we still here?" Other times, its as big as creating a meme that forever mocks people who insist they've won in social conflicts. But either way, when The Fool speaks truth, our gut is either blaming them for having the gall to say the Shit they do or laughing along with them.

  • @coldsnap222
    @coldsnap2223 жыл бұрын

    That airhorn actually blew my eardrums out lmao

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anything, I didn't think it was loud enough...

  • @linseyspolidoro5122
    @linseyspolidoro51223 жыл бұрын

    I think the most fascinating style of shit posts to me are high effort shit posts like: ‘I play the lick for 5 hours straight’ or ‘playing the first 2 notes of Fur Elise for 4 hours.’ Because nobody tends to watch those all the way through since they are so repetitive but that doesn’t seem to be the point. Its almost like half endurance trial/half shitpost.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I almost decided to include a bit about the Lord of the Rings edit where, every time they take another step away from the shire, someone's spliced in Sam saying "If I take another step...". The video was already 45 minutes though, haha!

  • @linseyspolidoro5122

    @linseyspolidoro5122

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas The video is great regardless, lol. You have an ability to earnestly delve into a topic such as this and tie it in with other major movements in art history and it is super interesting. High quality stuff!

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel3 жыл бұрын

    I've been insisting DADA-ism is pre-modern high art memeage movement for years! Thank 😔🤌 Also I should add that for Cage's 4'22", the funniest thing is that *you don't need to stand/sit for that specific time at all, mocking the concept of time itself, the best shitpost of all*

  • @hedgehog3180

    @hedgehog3180

    2 жыл бұрын

    Y'know what would actually be funny is to go to a concert of Cage's 4'22 and then after the piece starts loudly saying with genuine anger "oh what the fuck they aren't playing any actual music" and angrily leave the concert hall. I feel like that would implicitly mock everyone who just sits there and watches.

  • @ShonenAgus
    @ShonenAgus3 жыл бұрын

    This intro is pure HYPE. Imma go pour myself a drink

  • @SteampunkPhoenix

    @SteampunkPhoenix

    3 жыл бұрын

    That intro made me deaf

  • @DeoMachina
    @DeoMachina3 жыл бұрын

    desu desu desu desu desu desu I'm honestly elated at how this video nails explaining a feeling I have had but didn't have the ability to express for myself For about fifteen years I've watched what we used to call Web 2.0 destroy and subvert countless fascinating and rich communities, replacing them all with uniform page styles and strict top-down moderation with no accountability to the users. As a teenager the internet was the only place where I could understand and be understood by other people, and so much of that has been taken away that I ironically have to get that from offline interactions now. Shitposting is the silver lining to all of this, it breaks my heart that sneering columnists mock 'the poors' for desperately trying to ensure their survival, but it absolutely whips dick that the same columnists are on the verge of tears because some 20-somethings keep typing "Keith Starmer".

  • @severdislike4222
    @severdislike42223 жыл бұрын

    aww.... seeing Michael Brooks again makes me sad. May he rest in power, he was an amazing person.

  • @antgrantrant
    @antgrantrant3 жыл бұрын

    Explaining a joke is a dangerous place to be. But I think you pulled it off as best as anyone could.

  • @linusbendtsen6501
    @linusbendtsen65013 жыл бұрын

    You had me in the second half of the intro, not gonna lie

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527

    @jacobrzeszewski6527

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does liking your own comment make you feel dirty. Like you’re cheating. It does me.

  • @user-df1hv3co4p

    @user-df1hv3co4p

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobrzeszewski6527 I sure don’t feel bad if I do it with an ALT!

  • @linusbendtsen6501

    @linusbendtsen6501

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-df1hv3co4p

  • @Madkinglord

    @Madkinglord

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@linusbendtsen6501 those are Japanese characters

  • @devpenamala
    @devpenamala3 жыл бұрын

    You are the most consistently impressive educator on here! Everything just keeps getting better, so glad that I've subscribed. Your videos were the ones that actually spurred me to be interested in philosophy and politics etc.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I’m really glad you’ve enjoyed some of what I’ve been making!

  • @chriscam4165
    @chriscam41653 жыл бұрын

    When I think of musical shitposting, Frank Zappa immediately comes to mind.

  • @anarchogarfieldist1652

    @anarchogarfieldist1652

    3 жыл бұрын

    Muffin_Man.mp4

  • @mattgilbert7347

    @mattgilbert7347

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lou Reed "Metal Machine Music" is a giant musical shitpost.

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattgilbert7347 Its unlistenable, and I'm a Merzbow fan!?

  • @FakeSchrodingersCat

    @FakeSchrodingersCat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shannonm.townsend1232 I think that is obviously the point in calling it a shitpost you are not part of the subculture it was designed for.

  • @shannonm.townsend1232

    @shannonm.townsend1232

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FakeSchrodingersCat explain

  • @radioactivedetective6876
    @radioactivedetective68763 жыл бұрын

    Duchamp had coined the term "anti-art", which can be viewed as a precursor to the DADA movement, which can definitely be viewed as a precursor to shitposting

  • @WannabeMarysue
    @WannabeMarysue3 жыл бұрын

    Shitposting existed before we had that word for it. Older terms like crapflooding, flaming, and even trolling, describe a similar practice in older definitions. KZread Poop, if you're on this website

  • @CRT.v

    @CRT.v

    3 жыл бұрын

    and nightblogging on tumblr! the term is rarely used anymore, but was very widely used in The Early Days

  • @WannabeMarysue

    @WannabeMarysue

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CRT.v Interesting. Kinda sounds like "Mods are asleep" posting on 4chan, where users late at night could post without anyone online to stop them. At least in spirit. Mods never slept on Tumblr. hey who remembers the "tumblr v 4chan" flame wars of the early 10s? cringe . Or it could kind of be like Night FYAD, which is... ok, FYAD is A Lot to get into. But it did have dozens of different names for shitposting subgenres, a decade before shitposting went mainstream.

  • @ezrarichardson279
    @ezrarichardson279 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love shitposting culture and it’s relation to internet culture. There is just something awesome about watching someone’s work that they clearly spent hours on yet makes almost no sense but somehow curve all the way around to making sense again. It’s just so pure.

  • @jamieh5d
    @jamieh5d3 жыл бұрын

    Comment mostly for the algorithm, but: I really enjoyed this and the "Jo Swinson, Squirrel Killer" story is still very funny.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, there's a lot to be miserable about when thinking over the 2019 General Election, but there's a few moments like that which I'll hold dear for a long time.

  • @zanderhenriksen6776

    @zanderhenriksen6776

    2 жыл бұрын

    It reminds me of the satirical movie where politics is turned into entertainment. Which is both hilarious as it shows just how far the UK has descended from the once prestigious status it held, while also worrying. It shows that shitposting influencing the outcome of elections and undermining democracy isn't unique to the US, and can in fact spread. Next up: Tory PM candidate challenges libtard PM candidate for boxing match. All memery aside, politics and the outcome of elections shouldn't be decided by memes. It inherently dissuades debates, and if we don't have the option for debates and mutual understanding, well then having a democracy is simply pointless - might as well just go back to the technocratic systems of the olden days (very old days, like Roman-era-old).

  • @Bisquick
    @Bisquick3 жыл бұрын

    This all reminds me of Nietzsche encouraging something like, "if it is shaky, push it over." Something like that, mostly just recalling Rick Roderick putting it like this, I think it's like "if it is falling, push it." Or something. Whatever, just shitposting. Also, this was awesome.

  • @marocat4749

    @marocat4749

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kinda fitting that his god is dead quote is kinda shitposting XD

  • @kwuzie2265
    @kwuzie22653 жыл бұрын

    "now that lockdown is over here in the uk" ... we all have cabin fever in the US please help us

  • @jamiel6005

    @jamiel6005

    3 жыл бұрын

    don’t worry, lockdown has resumed. We’re all in the same boat now, but it’s on fire.

  • @jimmu8689

    @jimmu8689

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamiel6005 the boat sunk

  • @SkepticismIncarnate
    @SkepticismIncarnate3 жыл бұрын

    I love listening to your stuff with my headphones on and you absolutely murdered my eardrums and scared the shit out of me at the end of that intro.

  • @LiveHedgehog
    @LiveHedgehog3 жыл бұрын

    You're my little pogchamp, Tom

  • @jasonobodoggz2691
    @jasonobodoggz26913 жыл бұрын

    The Jo Swinson story is when I went from "sihtposting is okay art," (because everything made by a human is art; fight me about it) to "shitposting can be good art."

  • @AlexJ1
    @AlexJ13 жыл бұрын

    This was genuinely fascinating. If something feels new, it's not. Everything's a remix.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it gave you some food for thought!

  • @superlabelgirl

    @superlabelgirl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Art is a remix, and shitposting is a C-C-COMBO BREAKER! (Cultural capital, more like cultural ALL CAPS, AMIRITE????)

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek3 жыл бұрын

    The highest form of art!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely the most under-appreciated.

  • @dans6046
    @dans60463 жыл бұрын

    So i was just thinking, "damn, my philosophy lecturer JUST did a bit on memes and dril last week for my contemporary thought and culture topic". And then you quoted Tom Whyman, who is my lecturer that is running the module...

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh cool, his article on online Simpsons-related art is great!

  • @idoall1134
    @idoall11343 жыл бұрын

    Tom your content is so well done! Could you do a video on the philosophy of "Anarchy" and how it differs from just "chaos"?

  • @Athanelar

    @Athanelar

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hate to self-promote, but that sort of thing is basically my exact niche. Take a look at my 'Anarchy 101' video.

  • @FatFrankie42

    @FatFrankie42

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Athanelar you just got a new sub. 💞 & Solidarity!

  • @mtlewis973

    @mtlewis973

    2 жыл бұрын

    you do it!

  • @Trikeman728
    @Trikeman7283 жыл бұрын

    Can't tell if Jake Tapper was being purposely meta by attributing "I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" to Sartre or just wrong 🤔

  • @user-jz7vp7kg1u
    @user-jz7vp7kg1u Жыл бұрын

    The weird thing is: some people still don't seem to get DaDa as being about it not making sense. My art teacher once gave us the assignment to make a collage inspired by those of Hanna Höch (a known dadaist), so I combined magazine cutouts in a way that didn't really make any sense, but was just fun for me to look at and giggle a bit. My teacher ended up giving me a bad grade, because my wirk didn't have any meaning, because apparently we were supposed to make it make sense in some way. I felt like she had kinda missed the point, but at that point in time I didn't really know how to articulate, why I felt her grading was undair.

  • @alexchurchfield2901
    @alexchurchfield29013 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel I've been needing to hear an in-depth look at items that seem inherent to the internet, since to an outsider like myself, they are endlessly fascinating and yet confusing. Very happy to check out other things you do.

  • @grmpEqweer
    @grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын

    I am generally a serious, sincere poster. Because I am a giant nerd. Unless I'm joking.

  • @PseudoFiction
    @PseudoFiction3 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to the day Tom outgrows his One Direction hair phase

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    It'll be much easier now the barbers are open again!

  • @cheydinal5401
    @cheydinal54013 жыл бұрын

    This makes me understand a lot better why so many people like reference jokes (mostly memes) so much when they're teenagers and try to "fit in" Thanks for the great video. At first I thought 45 minutes would be a bit much, but no, completely worth it, great job!

  • @VileLasagna
    @VileLasagna3 жыл бұрын

    I'm 4 minutes in and I'm already feeling extremely validated that I've been saying that dril is the most influential and prolific poet of our time and I mean it. Poetry was always shitposting to begin with EDIT: I have finished the video and thank you, Almighty Algorithm, for dumping this in my recommended,

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, thanks, I'm really glad you got something out of it. And very pleased to have given some further support to your poetry opinions!

  • @RatPfink66

    @RatPfink66

    Жыл бұрын

    best part is, @dril would probably insist he _was_ a poet...but he'd do so in a way that punctured both the self-seriousness of the art _and_ his feigned self-importance.

  • @ReplicatorFifth
    @ReplicatorFifth3 жыл бұрын

    I’m genuinely happy the Almighty Algorithm recommended this channel to me three months ago. Quality content!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad you found my videos too, hope you've enjoyed some of them!

  • @ReplicatorFifth

    @ReplicatorFifth

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas you make good content! Each video has a level of quality I would only expect from the bigger channels.

  • @Lu11abi
    @Lu11abi3 жыл бұрын

    This being the first time anyone's explained dada to me in this context of dystopic anxiety and condemnation, I've gotta say I respect that shit. A really brilliant show you've got here. I'm impressed... But I still don't trust you.

  • @easymoney8754

    @easymoney8754

    2 жыл бұрын

    sussy balls

  • @lucasnunes2453
    @lucasnunes24533 жыл бұрын

    Seeing globo as the most visited news website its both frustrating and not at all surprising. There's a quote from Beyond Citizen Kane (which i cant recommend enough) that shed some light on why that might be: "there are certain areas of the country (Brazil) that dont have acces s to sewer, water and paved roads. What they do have, however, are network broadcast tv transmissions"

  • @Mattz554
    @Mattz554 Жыл бұрын

    That video encapsulates the epitome of the confusion artists feel towards themselves and the environment they work in. As an artist, I feel less weird now. Thank you.

  • @milosknapcek3874
    @milosknapcek38743 жыл бұрын

    This video’s quality level is like over 9000.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @janreal84
    @janreal843 жыл бұрын

    I feel VERY strongly about this topic and love the fact that you did a video that does it justice

  • @janreal84

    @janreal84

    3 жыл бұрын

    also nothing quite grinds my gears like a low effort shitpost. Like buddy have a little respect, at least an iota of self-respect, we're all trying to bring our a game, what are you doing?

  • @knicksprop
    @knicksprop3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know how I came across your channel but I gotta say, you’ve kept me engaged on every video I’ve seen. Your presentation of content skills are top notch and you manage to select topics I’ve not seen before.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Justin, I'm really glad you've been enjoying some of my stuff!

  • @randomtinypotatocried
    @randomtinypotatocried3 жыл бұрын

    Happy I was recommended this channel from someone in one of the groups. Talking about art is my jam

  • @SkuikiMigu
    @SkuikiMigu3 жыл бұрын

    I just finished your essays on Neoliberalism to see you have posted on a topic which, though not connected to my studies right now, is both interesting and very fun. Of course I had to click on it. My deadlines can wait an extra hour for some well-informed good time!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, don't get behind on your work on my part; it'll still be here when you're done!

  • @SkuikiMigu

    @SkuikiMigu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas My brain is grateful for the break from 'the advent of neoliberalism on crime and punishment' haha. Thank you for your concern though!

  • @AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc
    @AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if sir lawrence slavetradercolonialism was friends with Terfina Ghastly-Warrcrimes

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe the SlaveTrader-Colonialisms were an Eton family whilst the Ghastly-Warcrimes all went to Harrow.

  • @elanamitchell9413
    @elanamitchell94132 жыл бұрын

    Your content is so soothing I literally love you like you don’t understand how much I needed this kind of quality, calling, informative content omg

  • @za1231in
    @za1231in3 жыл бұрын

    one might even assert that this very video essay is an extremely elaborate shitpost

  • @jaqm7343
    @jaqm73433 жыл бұрын

    Shit posting is an art form, it's good to look at things in a different way thank you

  • @principal_optimism
    @principal_optimism3 жыл бұрын

    When is the 2-hour long video on the great meme war of 2016, coming?

  • @grmpEqweer

    @grmpEqweer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I lost family in that war...

  • @ericqiangliu5839
    @ericqiangliu58393 жыл бұрын

    Great fun to watch a new artform launching video. Your hair looks flying at the beginning. A new year to come, lots of fun content to expect.

  • @bibierjavec1150
    @bibierjavec11503 жыл бұрын

    First if all, I loved the video, reminded me of semiotic classes, I'm always excited to see well researched internet culture video essays. I do think it would've been cool to at least mention that the fountain was possibly misatributed to Duchamp who himself wrote that the work was sent to him by a female colegue using a male pseudonyme and only started taking credit for it after it had already been assumed it was his for a while. I think even if it's not irrefutably provable, it's an interesting paralel to early internet anonymous shitposting which is also assumed by default to be done by men, even though even early 4chan in my experience (observed through years of random self reporting polls, but that's the best you can get for its demos) always had somewhere in the 10-30% of female users (and more on boards outside of /b/) that most of the time just pretended to be dudes to avoid harrasement and to follow board culture.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really glad you liked it! Yes, I thought about discussing the attribution aspect of Fountain. And that would have been a really interesting way to do so which drew parallels with early internet culture!

  • @octavia88
    @octavia883 жыл бұрын

    26:08 salad fingers! I remember seeing it on Albinoblacksheep 😃

  • @Hubert_Cumberdale_

    @Hubert_Cumberdale_

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...

  • @debralegorreta1375
    @debralegorreta13753 жыл бұрын

    Mozart's "Musical Joke" works and that bugged the hell out of the establishment. To me that says Mozart is being critical of the "rules" of art.

  • @SplotPublishing

    @SplotPublishing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mozart understood those rules, and could play them as well as or better than anyone else. So, when he broke the rules, he broke them hard, and he made it work. It was a creative act, not just a destructive one. It's something modern "shitposters" don't get at all. They "shitpost" because *giggle* "aint I a badass?" No, no, you aren't. You're an asshole, and from assholes, come shit.

  • @marocat4749

    @marocat4749

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SplotPublishing Depends on who does it, same like worhol did make fun of the commercilation of art. Andthere are really fun shitposts that show a good sense and purpose o commenting on something, or just weird enough to make think about whatever. And art can be creative in its destruction, like the guy making an installment that will destroy it in a shredder once its bought. And memes, can be really good here too. Like peterson alone created such a creative form of shitposting, unintentional, It depends, there were probably a lot of less memorable shitposters in mozarts time. Its like the 98s/80s music, the one with staying power is remembered, the rest, is forgotten.

  • @DefektiveEnvy
    @DefektiveEnvy2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad I found your content. It makes me laugh, it makes me ponder. I really appreciate the efforts you put into your channel. I liked this video right after intro cause I was always amped to view the rest haha

  • @pheo6874
    @pheo68742 жыл бұрын

    I can tell by your expressions that you are enjoying making this video. I dont think Ive ever seen anyone so passionately talk about shitposting, but Im glad you're doing what makes you happy!

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal3 жыл бұрын

    The crazy frog memorial wingdidingdingdingdiding

  • @TheFriendlyAnarchist
    @TheFriendlyAnarchist3 жыл бұрын

    30 seconds in and already this is the best video you’ve ever done.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @andyparanoia
    @andyparanoia3 жыл бұрын

    Tom! Loved seeing you break this all down... thank you!

  • @RacerTie
    @RacerTie3 жыл бұрын

    I'd watch your videos as documentaries if you'd put music throughout the whole video in the background. Ah, yes. I can imagine myself during a weekday night watching these videos with a glass of red wine.

  • @sageschroeder
    @sageschroeder3 жыл бұрын

    I love that intro. It’s perfect.

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, really glad you liked it. This is the one that it's taken me the longest to come up with so far!

  • @thecapn1000

    @thecapn1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, excellent.

  • @rctommy3200
    @rctommy32003 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap that beat at 28:33 rocked my world

  • @TokenTunes
    @TokenTunes3 жыл бұрын

    Loving the fact you are not afraid to produce long well researched videos 🤗

  • @-Zevin-
    @-Zevin-3 жыл бұрын

    "EHhhem!" The mustache of the intricately dressed man bristled as he cleared his throat. "Right this way ladies and gentlemen; to the most prestigious and illustrious part of our art gallery." Adjusting the collar of his stripped jacket, and slightly rotating the gold framed monocle the audience watched and waited with silent anticipation. The lights in the room suddenly dimmed, a curtain in dramatic fashion whooshed to the side revealing the marvelous sight everyone had gathered for. *"The greatest hits, of one sir pepe the frog."* Hushed whispers and murmurs suddenly pattered throughout the room, some wept, some smiled with joy.

  • @jatkinson85

    @jatkinson85

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes this is totally happening in 2080 (assuming the world isn't a man made Climate hellscape by then)

  • @-Zevin-

    @-Zevin-

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jatkinson85 The highbrow Pepe and trollface exhibits will be viewable in the climate controlled domes the wealthy live in.

  • @jatkinson85

    @jatkinson85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@-Zevin- Until they don't pay their guards enough and they promptly burn the place to the ground with them still inside.

  • @-Zevin-

    @-Zevin-

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jatkinson85 Hey we can only hope, just don't underestimate guards that can't be bribed. In other words, guards that have battery packs and CPUs.

  • @blaze100587

    @blaze100587

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jatkinson85 haven't you heard? The elite circles are already talking about making explosive collars for their guards if robots aren't ready in time. onezero.medium.com/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1?gi=sd

  • @thurkagord
    @thurkagord3 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually the great grandson of Sir Laurence Slave Trader Colonialism, my name is Sir Laurence Slave Trader Colonialism IV. And I don't appreciate my family's name being sarcastic

  • @subaquatictoaster
    @subaquatictoaster Жыл бұрын

    Had to pause just to say that intro was amazing. The dankest of times to you as well sir

  • @blarghts
    @blarghts2 жыл бұрын

    What is termed here as Disruptive shitposting in the early 2000s was just known as Trolling. Trolling took on an increasingly negative connotation as the decade moved on because people are terrible so people that liked to play around with others online started calling it shitposting.

  • @oxherder9061
    @oxherder90613 жыл бұрын

    Aw yeah, nice work. You put these together fast all things considered!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I'm always beating myself up about how long it takes to put each video together so it means a lot for you to say that!

  • @oxherder9061

    @oxherder9061

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas man, when you're putting out 45 minute videos, one month is really quite fast imho!

  • @SeiShinjitsuShi
    @SeiShinjitsuShi3 жыл бұрын

    Boyo, where can i snag those dope sunglasses?

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Weirdly enough, they only came in packs of three... Because apparently one pair would never have been enough...

  • @SeiShinjitsuShi

    @SeiShinjitsuShi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom_Nicholas i guess they just figured you'd.... deal with it.

  • @EdgarDizzlewicz92
    @EdgarDizzlewicz923 жыл бұрын

    Yes! First time I ever encountered shitposting, my first thought was this is the new Dada.

  • @nijobot
    @nijobot3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tom. The ding sound effect you keep using hurts my brain. Much love!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Apologies to your brain...

  • @celphdfined9298

    @celphdfined9298

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the ding. It's an alert that something supplementing the point, like examples, are being shown and I am more likely to look from my work and see what it is if I can.

  • @Flydude614
    @Flydude6143 жыл бұрын

    Homie just fills me with cheer.

  • @IAmPrion
    @IAmPrion3 жыл бұрын

    Just realised I've been shitposting in class when I was 13. I would purposefully ask questions designed to derail the teacher so that 45 minutes was spend learning 1 part of a topic. I just passive aggressively been a ass hole to a few teachers.

  • @kaptnseebar9467
    @kaptnseebar94673 жыл бұрын

    so glad I found your channel

  • @SimpleSaemple
    @SimpleSaemple4 ай бұрын

    The airhorn was so loud. I threw my headphones off since I was listening and not watching.

  • @marchi.fleming
    @marchi.fleming3 жыл бұрын

    There's definitely something to this, my well-thought and intentionally crafted posts/tweets 99% of the time get **crickets**...my fast, off-the-cuff befuckery often gets LOADS 🙄

  • @emilyrln
    @emilyrln3 жыл бұрын

    “Sir Lawrence Slave-Trader-Colonialism”

  • @fuad000100
    @fuad0001003 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting for this! Great upload!!

  • @Tom_Nicholas

    @Tom_Nicholas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it!

  • @andrewpaddock7560
    @andrewpaddock75603 жыл бұрын

    I'm under 40 (just) yet I had no idea what most of what you were talking was. John Cage, at least, I did, and I've always thought that 4 minutes and however-many-seconds was a load of rubbish. It's weird to me that they've suddenly become respectable? This world is so weird. The older I get, the less I understand any of it. As for the Internet, in spite of having been on it since the 1990s, almost everything you described it completely alien to me, apart from the growing fear of the Internet as a tool to destruction and incubator of danger.

  • @5Zelath
    @5Zelath3 жыл бұрын

    could be re-named "Ode to that The Left Can´t Meme"