This deck is the best. I have been playing edh for 11 years and I never stepped foot into the competitive side of the format until I saw this list and how it plays. Now I’ve been playing cEDH for the better part of a year and I gotta say I’m hooked. This baby is pure gas, proactive, flexible, and best of all- hella fun. Congrats Ian, for brewing the choicest deck in the format.

@golgariguy

2 жыл бұрын

I also started playing cEDH with this deck!

@dizzlegrizzle1919

11 ай бұрын

cedh is still a snoozefest

Ian’s been reading our comments on Twitter and is out to set the record straight! Don’t cut the kiki combo, ever.

Baller video dude! Great to hear the lines and mulligan decisions explained in detail by the creator of the deck.

I've recently been trying to learn Winota and your mulligan advice has been invaluable. Keep it up!

This deck got me into commander and this was amazing to see thought process behind mulligans. Super valuable. Thank you!

I absolutely love that I, Ian, come to KZread to find Winota tech for my own cEDH list and find the homie Ian over here with the fire list! Without a doubt my favorite deck. Thanks bro!

I cannot express how excited I am to build this as my first cedh deck. Thanks for all the work you've put into it Ian!

I've been thinking of building this deck for the last two weeks, was goldfishing all weekend and then you drop this. :D

Last week I decided to build Winota. Very excited for this!

This deck has been my first ever cedh deck after over a decade of edh. And its so fun. Playing boros and winning with combat in cedh? Yes please! Amazing deck

I agree with your point about removing splinter twin. It’s been a dead card for me most of the time. I slotted in solitude for extra removal.

i’ve just started a winota cedh build! am excited to try it out next week!

Great video. I've been playing Yisan for some time, but Winota really speaks to me. I like that it's relatively cheap to build compared to a lot of 4/5c lists. I'm going to be giving it a try soon.

I truly love that I got to live in the day and age where you can play an AGGRO deck who’s main plan seems to be non infinite combat damage(with infinite as a backup), at the HIGHEST level of competitive edh play

This is so dope Ian! Thanks for the resource, really appreciate the time you've put into making this list over the past year or so. When Winota came out the Boros fanboy in me knew she'd do broken stuff, little did I know she'd make it into the top tiers of the CEDH meta! I've been playing your list online for a while now and it slaps. Just made a $75 variation for an uber budget CEDH league we have at my college, and I'm looking forward to popping off with it there (albeit 1-2 turns slower, lol).

@munsulight721

2 жыл бұрын

Winota even on a budget slaps. Unless they have board wipe it is so hard to stop her in a budget league

Great video, I watched the video you did on Playing with Power on underrated CMDRS. Gonna try and build a Yasharn Stax.

Not gonna lie; I think I am gonna use this video as the Gold Standard of how to do a Deck Tech. Thanks for all you do!

I am an avid Winota player. Thanks for helping those that are just picking up the deck.

my build is still in the casual/high powered tier and am slowly building towards this. been having fun playing it.

Thank you Ian , for a guide!

Super informative. Great video

I am a control player, so when I seen a boros deck was controlling via stax I was sold!

Thx Ian! Much appreciated!

Thanks for the update!

I really appreciate your help that you give back to the community on this deck and i love that you keep it up to date with the kamigawa lands! I'm not into cedh yet but i plan on getting into it with this deck. The only thing that i personally question about is this really a magus of the moon deck? We have quite a few utility lands ourselves with the the nexus creature lands, city of traitors gemstone mine cavern of souls etc...how many other cedh decks are out there that get shut down by magus? I was considering cutting it for an esper sentinel for more taxing and card draw. Thoughts?

I do run the aggressive Winota. Other than Vandalblast and Wear-Tear the other one I played with was Shenanigans.

As far as greedier decks go I subbed out REB for jor kadeen to play along side rick and when that happens it’s absolutely nuts. I once blade historiated then triggered with PW and OT into Rick and jor and what a absolute beat down that next turn was.

Currently building this deck and it’s so much fun to play! Please keep updating this deck!!

I add really good success with Cathar Commando in my meta and the "Avalanche Build". I love both build and had success in my local meta with both. I know you would never cut Kiki, but I would say it is meta dependant. Maybe once people are back on Cyc Rift and more Board Wipe, I will put the Kiki combo in but for now I personally dont need it. We still have a combo in the deck. It is a shame I cant get my hands on Rick. I have to go for a Replacement but none are as good as it

Only posting this because I know you'll probably see it. Missing one of my favorite CEDH content creators and your in depth evaluation/spot on understanding of the format. From one Ian to another, you are missed.

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

I'll be back soon :)

I used to think Winota was not a bad matchup for GW Sisay, especially because I could goldfish my combos out a turn or two faster, or I could wreck the deck with Elesh Norn. Then you all started playing Rick. Rick makes the deck play at a pace where it's a lot harder to stop. I also think that Winota has such a great mix of demanding interaction to stop other decks and needing interaction to be stopped. I often find that if I try to keep Winota in check with Elesh Norn, I kill stax pieces that I want in play against the other decks. It's a really fun and challenging matchup.

I thought this was another top 4 video and my first reaction was “dude wtf!”

My favorite card ever. I dont play EDH but I only play her busted boros deck in modern.

Have you done an updated Kroxa deck tech? That would be tighyyyyt. Thanks!

I literally have every single card for this deck (minus mox diamond because me no have enough $$$) but god d ay u mmmm, its beautiful once you turn 2 winota and get at least 1-2 triggers on her.

Winota was the reason I had to add Orim's Chant to my Extus build...

Can you help me understand the Gilded Drake interaction?

I'm probably going to cut Splintertwin for Gorilla Shaman or Solitude honestly. I'm on the same mindset with 'Twin.

No Auratouched Mage + Breath of Fury combo? I've found that to be very strong in the deck. Very often Breath of Fury gives you enough extra Winota triggers that you find a Loyal Apprentice, Rionya or Mirage Phalanx and just combo out from there. It overlaps and layers beautifully with the Combat Celebrant combos and often leads into them. Auratouched mage is basically a human 1-card win con if you have any kind of board presence. And it's quite an elegant 2-card package compared to the slightly clunky Kiki package. Have you tested this combo?

How about rup apart as a removal spell? It requires both red white instead of abrades colorless red but it can hit enchantments that stop the swing

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

Sorcery speed makes me very low on it tbh

Would this deck still be strong today in 2023? Would love to make it.

its wild just how different this deck has changed just from this video. touch the Spirit Realm, Skrelc, Defector Mite, Phoenix Chick, Myr Convert, Soulless Jailer archivist of oghma and professional face breaker. I wonder what 2023 will bring the best girl.

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

Looking at an updated one soon, whenever there is a lull in tournaments

Do you think there could be any room for Armageddon / Ravages of War in the deck? Or do you feel it doesn't make much sense?

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

It really doesn't do what we're trying to do. Mana denial isn't our game parity breaking is

25:34 You mean Ragavan right?

Ian, between Winota and Sigarda, who's the better stax commander? I feel like Winota is way more explosive but Sigarda seems really resilient.

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

It's Winota 100%. Winota decks have Top 4'd the past 4-5 cEDH events and Sigarda has never even reached a top 4 in a public tournament. Winota also cheats card advantage and mana advantage better than any commander previously only being limited by her colors.

Cut Zealous Conscripts for Village Bell ringer. 1. If zealous conscripts enters the battlefield with winotas ability, he enters the battlefield triggering but you already declared attackers so village bell ringer is more viable in this term 2. you can tutor it with imperial recruiter 3. 2 mana less 4. Better as a single card without kiki jikki

Excited to see my wife play this deck!

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah bud!

@michaeldlynch

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG she played it tonight and thought it was fun. She’s excited to play it again.

🥇

Is there a more budget option for City of Traitors and Mox diamond?

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Crystal vein

@jimjam9080

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG thanks! I'm assuming then there isn't a good replacement for Mox diamond?

Second comment on here, but what do you think of Rip Apart as a second copy of abrade? I feel like it makes the cut over one of the blast cards just due to its versatility.

@munsulight721

2 жыл бұрын

Rip Apart sorcery speed hurts like hell

@samhparker

2 жыл бұрын

@@munsulight721 I just find it can be really annoying if you're locked out due to a hate piece or a drannith magistrate, and it can deal with pretty much anything blocking your game plan. In those situations, anything is better than just sitting there.

@munsulight721

2 жыл бұрын

@@samhparker I 100% agree on your statement but I did try Rip Apart before and it Just felt underwhelming. Maybe it Will be good enough in your testing. . I wanted to love the card

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

The blasts are definitely lower than they have been historically. I'd look at other options before a sorcery speed spell

Winota is an amputee/Lost her arm? Had no clue.

I keep losing to creature based wincons like marwyn's infinite e-wit loops and kriik's fast black ooze combo around t3. How much would cursed totem hurt this deck? I'm considering it because of how many creature wincons are in my meta. Should also mention the marwyn I face aggressively mulligans for ouphe just for me.

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

I think totem would be extremely tough tbh. I'd look into linvala before totem

@ThatWanderingDude

Жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG Thalia heretic cathar (3c thalia) actually helped a lot with my problem, tried linvala but she hasn't come up in my hands yet and I can't flip her with winota.

Could someone hook me up with a budget friendly list ? Something to start with and work towards the actual list ?

How does Winota do versus other STAX decks

@nzephier

Жыл бұрын

I forget who did it but some channel did an all winota duel haha

Would love to see an updated primer for Winota. Feel like there has been some big changes

@dizzlegrizzle1919

11 ай бұрын

not really...

I'd love to try this deck out but I have awful luck lucksack-ing into top decks. Even if it's 3 Winota triggers, I'd still whiff.

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely not a luck thing. There are hard numbers that go behind the chances. I have statistically some pretty poor luck and the deck performs wonderfully for me

any updates with all the new possible additions!?

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

Just updated today

Thoughts on Esper Sentinel?

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Despite it being in my top cards in the format at the moment a list like this heavily prioritizes synergy and esper sentinel really doesn't give us anything we need.

is it possible to build this without the expensive artifacts? or creatures will also be changed?

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely possible but I'd prioritize the fast mana for pickups

@henrivalencia21

Жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG I'm slowly building this but for now, I'm excluding the expensive artifacts, lands and creatures. It's slow but I'm having a lot of fun with it. Thank you for this. Right now Im only missing Ragavan, Dockside, Esper, Ranger Capt and Solitude for the creatures. Any alternative recommendation for those?

23:17 am i missing something? Glowrider is just a cleric. not a human/cleric

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

It's an old card that is a human. Types have been added to old cards you can see on gatherer or other sites updated typing

any thoughts on the new secret lair human

@ComedIanMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't really provide anything we need unfortunately

@chaseladely2253

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG it just sounded like something that would be included because of the attack triggers but i get it

@takeru1345

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComedIanMTG Totally agree. Was hoping he would bring more to the table. Sadly doesn't make the cut

Has this deck list been updated?

@ComedIanMTG

Жыл бұрын

All the time lol

someone gilded drake my winota and i laugh out loud like a villain playing Rionya on my turn

jesus. kiki really wants to b e in that first hand. seemed like every hand you tried kiki was in it

Every cEDH deck tech ever: "Well we hope we draw into some lands with this hand..." xD /jk

You look like you make that face on your MySpace photos

It's not "maggus" of the moon, it's "may-Jus" of the moon. JS

Please dont "zoom in" like this, make the website bigger - its all pixelated else.

i love this deck always love pissing off the breech players

I never understand why ppl have horrible background music in the video It’s annoying It takes away from your content It’s completely unnecessary This specific sound of what I guess might be music- is an annoying tingy mess. Sounds like someone is playing video game music into a tin can