We love Tomer talking about being a pioneer of Slicer decks, and then forgetting Slicer's first line of text 20 minutes later.

@MTGGoldfishCommander

11 ай бұрын

Do you expect a Slicer player to read???

@HypnoticGG

11 ай бұрын

Ironically, the first time he played it, he touted himself as a genius when the cheaper cost was pointed out, lol. Everyone forgets it to be fair.

@mightyone3737

11 ай бұрын

Tomer Tomering is very Tomer.

@rosavanopheusden5211

11 ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfishCommander just in case you bring it back, don't forget that if you don't give slicer away, it goes back into vehicle mode, and you can't give it away while it's in vehicle mode; in other words, you can't pick and choose who to give it to, you either have to give it all the time or you can't give it at all!

@AutkastKain

11 ай бұрын

The comedic value is so good

Watching them play cEDH is like watching your grandparents try to hook up a wifi router.

@tmain1320

11 ай бұрын

It’s great going from play to win/playing with power to watching this. But I still love every second of it!

@nicholas8739

11 ай бұрын

Yeah. Tomer should have explained stuff to the crew. These guys are so clueless

@wanny225

10 ай бұрын

As a CASUAL Slicer player, it was painful to see Tomer's misplays hahahaha like physically painful

@RafaelPanazzo

10 ай бұрын

No, I think grandparents setting up wifi would be better. This actually looks like grandparents playing cEDH 😂 omg

What I really need is an edited version of this match with a cEDH player narrating what each optimal play would look like over the course of this match, followed by the actual play

@jonaswilliams9755

11 ай бұрын

I'd be happy to do that if there weren't 97 minutes of footage. XD

@NewSchoolPOKERstrat

6 ай бұрын

I’m a cedh player. This was a travesty 😂

The Karn crowd surfing edit was sublime. Thank you for that, Editor!

Blood Moon in 2nd game was def correct as Seth needed Vtutor to not be out of the game and it put both Richard and Crim out of the game. 6/6 lifelinker is strong but it'd have to stay back with Slicer on board so it's not an issue once Slicer appears. The real mistake (prob with hindsight) was Crim not playing the Magistrate as it'd have blocked both Tomer and Seth from using Commanders but on turn 1 you could argue it was not a bad choice to wait 1 turn before playing it.

@simons6110

11 ай бұрын

crim not playing magistrate was a huge mistake. but with crim making that mistake tomer could have turned this table completly with a t1 frontside splicer

@OlAgony

11 ай бұрын

Crim is just not good at this format but doesnt wanna admit to it. Given the line of play of him not choosing to play the Dranith T1, he should've then not fetched immediately, and get more information before fetching since he doesnt even need the mana for anything.

Commander Clash: Gosh darn it. We only have a 97 minute video this week. Editor Niuttuc: Oh thank god.

@Kryptnyt

11 ай бұрын

He got that Crowdsurf the Karn in on there though

@hanschristopherson8056

11 ай бұрын

Cause these guys normally play waay too many boardwipes

@Kryptnyt

11 ай бұрын

@@hanschristopherson8056 Play no boardwipes so that you lose faster, the master plan

Tomer doing his little Slicer dance while everyone tries to reason with each other about how to not die to Slicer.

I gotta say: for someone who likes griefer decks, Crim certainly salts off and throws games a lot, often from his own mistakes and misplays. Regarding game 2, Drannith Magistrate shuts off Underworld Breach, and as we saw, the combo decks' backup plans involve their commanders. There's no reason to be coy about your cards in cEDH if you're Winota. Just jam your creatures and hate cards. Play to the board; that's how you win. Once Crim decides not to play his t1 hate piece, Tomer is also absolutely correct to jam Blood Moon on turn 1 because he's playing against two 4-5 colour combo decks and has a reasonable follow-up in t2 Slicer. Seth may have won anyway because he had the right tutor and made a reasonable decision with it, but for all Crim's complaining about kingmaking, his spite plays only took Tomer (who made a reasonable play) out of the game and made a Seth/Richard victory inevitable.

@Spaced92

11 ай бұрын

Well yeah that's everyone that plays griefer decks lol

@atk9989

11 ай бұрын

​@@Spaced92and why he isn't a good cEDH player. Hell I'll go as far as to say that he isn't a good player to play with in general. Every single game he does nothing but spite plays or hyper focuses Tomer.

@brunodebarrosgoncalves1560

11 ай бұрын

Crim played really bad both games. And tomer played to his alt correctly. Sadly he had the worst deck.

@dh47376

11 ай бұрын

@@edwarddavidson868 What if, and I know this might sound insane, but what if it's cEDH week and players should be playing to win? Tomer says at one point that he's surprised because he would expect Crim to play to his outs, and Tomer is correct. Salting off and griefing another player is fine in other weeks where games are slower and more interactive and no one is playing stax, but that wasn't this week. What if, and I know this might sound insane, but what if the content produced when one player screws up, then spends the rest of the game accusing another player of kingmaking while kingmaking -- what if that's unpleasant content?

@austinsalmons3187

11 ай бұрын

lol@@dh47376

The irony of Crim hard tilting from a single stax piece while playing a stax deck is deafening.

Forgot to mention. I love the intro. I'm a big fan of learning about decks during the game. So not having an enormously long intro with explanations is sweet.

Just seeing Seth sitting there with 4 tutors in his hand and him just saying "Hmmmmmm" is exactly what I feel like when I try and play a new cEDH deck.

I wish Crim had held up the goblin cratermaker to threaten to kill Najeela instead of guaranteeing that neither he nor Tomer would be able win. I feel like it would have been a more balanced game. Nonetheless these were really fun to watch and would be happy to see more cEDH content.

@atk9989

11 ай бұрын

Spite plays has no place in cEDH. It's why Crim is a bad cEDH player. Also politics has very little place in cEDH.

@Thewallace7347

11 ай бұрын

​@@atk9989politics is still very important in cedh. Knowing when to make your opponents interact and gatting people to work together to stop someone from winning is very important. Ive seen plenty of games where a stax deck a control deck sit down and just acknowledge that them suddenly teaming up garrenttes them the win

@shinobu-39

11 ай бұрын

There's actually some merit to that move. If Tomer then played Slicer the turn after, Crim would've died to it even earlier like what happened in the last game because he doesn't have a viable board. Either way, with the Blood Moon out, Crim was out of that game. What I will complain about is not playing Drannith turn 1. Even though it looked like it would help Richard, I would've rolled with it.

We finally got an enthusiastic Clash On from Seth, the dozens of us did in fact enjoy that

Cedh week would be better if they not only the read the primers but watched videos of others playing their deck before the game. Missed najeela derevi combos and crim not slamming down his winota game 1 was painful.

Seth, Crim, and Richard:“intellectual magic banter” Tomer: “slice, slice, slice”

@nicholas8739

11 ай бұрын

About as intellectual as a person who studied Yugioh thinking it was Magic.

The blood moon would have been good if Crim didn’t spite. He might even have won the game but with the tutor and 0 pressure seth got the free win.

Tomer’s play game 2 was objectively correct. Slicer would have been a very decent play, but in that position, with the board and no knowledge of hands, the lock piece was insanely good. Unfortunately salty spite plays were made rather than CEDH-minded plays so the game devolved the way it did.

Really loving the choices of decks this week. They're all pretty common to see at an average cEDH pod, so it'll be nice to see how the "casual" Commander Clash crew pilot them this week. In the past, the crew bring somewhat complicated combo decks that'll want a primer nearby but the ones this week are pretty straightforward.

I don’t know what was funnier, Tomer being super excited to play a deck and forgetting to read the commander or Crim, the man who gets off to shutting ppl down not playing the drannith game 2

@atk9989

11 ай бұрын

And then spite playing after he is on the receiving end for once.

Crim , I think you should have done Drannith Magistrate turn 1, in game 2

Its really fun to watch yall navigate the decks, also cool to see a CEDH game in real time, not cut down to just the spells. Dig the slick edits of the CEDH channels but its nice to hear all the politics and banter.

The second "Clash on!" was necessary Seth! Dont you hear the audience cheer🎉

i made a Slicer deck after watching Tomer first use it, it was the terror of my play group for a while. i've retired it for another deck, but i kinda want to bring it back now, since as we saw in this game Tomer just sat back and watched everyone duke it out

I unironically love clash on and never want it to stop.

Slicer adds such a sweet puzzle to all games he is in

Watching Richard paying for a free spell was so painful. Game two screaming at crim cast dranith.

Thinking about the first game a little bit, I was curious if anyone thought that casting Winota at 29:33 would have been a good move or not. It forces Seth to have to use the swords to plowshares that they know about on Winota and not on the stacks pieces. Then Crim can attack Richard thinking that Seth would probably attack Richard and kill him too. Then Seth has to fight through all those stacks pieces while also facing down potential death from a Slicer. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and we have access to their hands as viewers, but I think even with the information they had, it seems pretty safe and a way to help secure victory.

@karateLynge

11 ай бұрын

He should have. Would have been 3 triggers for All he knew. :)

@MTGGoldfishCommander

11 ай бұрын

Personally I would have slammed the Winota there. Pretty much everyone was tapped out. Seems like if you don't use Winota there you probably don't play it at all that game. I think you just go for it and hope for the best.

We love a good cedh week

@RumpledNutskin

11 ай бұрын

You're in the wrong place if you're looking for a "good" cedh week

@RumpledNutskin

11 ай бұрын

@@edwarddavidson868 I'd rather watch non cedh over people who have literally zero experience with complex decks

@dee-wreck

11 ай бұрын

​@@RumpledNutskin who?

@gibbysg8143

11 ай бұрын

Not really a fan of cedh tbh. I don’t really get the appeal of being overly sweaty playing a cardboard card game in my leisure time

@RumpledNutskin

11 ай бұрын

@@gibbysg8143 it isn't about being "overly sweaty." It's about playing to win, not playing to just play. You don't have to worry about politics in the same way, you don't have to worry about hurt feelings, or deck power level. Everyone is there to try and win. It feels like a completely different game

10:39 Don't worry Tomer. I heard you and laughed. 😆 It's fun seeing you guys really trying to win and at the same time working as a team to make sure someone doesn't win. lol

Always fun to watch newer or more casual players try out cedh! Lots of growing pains, of course, but that just goes with the territory.

@noahpetrasko6777

11 ай бұрын

Edit: how the hell is the boros deck that runs magus of the moon the one complaining about a blood moon lmao. I think Winona player should consider why they kept a 1 land hand with no acceleration to get to winota. Additionally why did they fetch t1 and then not play the dranith? Just confusing plays all around, followed by complaining about the consequences of their own decisions.

Havent watched in a while. Nothing like a good CEDH week to bring me back

@MTGGoldfishCommander

11 ай бұрын

Welcome back!

slicer in cedh is the equivalent of playing plain chase in regular commander. no one actually wants to do it after having seen 1 turn cycle with it but now is stuck deciding what is the least worse option

I think Seth doesn't realize how Derevi can combo with Najeela... Lol.

@Jonzin4BeatzNYC

11 ай бұрын

Came to the comments for this I don't think any of them realized it or they kept it to themselves to not give it away

Ten seconds in and Seth already called his commander a totally different name...lol

I love how Slicer's text says *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able* *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able* *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able*

@Kryptnyt

11 ай бұрын

In a robot voice

I liked this video for Richard's enthusiastic "Transform! BrtBrtBrt! Convert!"

I'm glad y'all are trying out different types of games. That said, one CEDH episode per season is plenty for me.

I highly enjoy it when they play CEDH!

Loved the cEDH content! Would love to see you guys try out some Sisay or Tayam next! ♥

@WushuTaz

11 ай бұрын

Definitely read the primers on those decks and get a few games in first. Tayam has an entire game theory break down in it which I find very valuable.

Prime summoner’s pact target in Seth’s deck is Derevi if your board can reliably get five combat damage triggers

Love the deck choices guys

slicer seems like a neat fun little game-within-the-game that is fun for the player to sit back and watch but also tear all friendships apart

would love to see more cedh content

The funniest thing is that the closer thing to "control" in cEDH is traditionally stax, and Crim immediately took Winota.

Najeela the.....broken blade?

When will you guys do the colorless clash?

I laughed so hard on that Aven Mindcensor 💀

Turn 2 why is tomer saying he can't slicer?? Mishra's workshop casts slicer with the one other mountain, yeah?

@MTGGoldfishCommander

11 ай бұрын

I might of forgot how to play D:

I love seeing Tomer dancing in the bottom right, while everyone else is pulling out their best politics. This is so entertaining!

i love the reference to beasties great call back

I luv how Tomer didn't even think to try and play ruination to blow up every land except his mountains.

I know it was absolutely a spite play, but isnt using the cratermaker to make sure you arent run over by slicer in the next turn cycle playing to your outs?

seeing the thought processes from everyone it would be interesting seeing a game where its pseudo two headed giant where each player plays a deck that requires another play keeping someone else in check to win so the idea is each person know who they need to keep alive last to win so they have to balance not letting them get too far ahead but also not to fall behind

Crim on every podcast: I want people to feel the salt, I bath in the salt, live for it. Crim plays against one stax piece: I am the saltiest, butthurt player of all time.

Why complicate your life with breach lines when you can go infinite with your commander and derevi

Tomer not turn 1 slicer in cedh is a huge miss. Smh

@mauiamaru6547

11 ай бұрын

he couldn't t1 slicer anyway, t2 seemed risky acknowledging there was derevi and serra ascendat on board... He played the most optimal way imo

@kylarcheng1346

11 ай бұрын

@@mauiamaru6547 I think the comment meant game 2

@Richard Another eggcorn I heard you use was "I got off scotch-free" when it is "I got off scot-free" (a Scot was an English tax implemented in medieval times)

Crim with the classic "don't kill me i'm stopping him" meanwhile failing to grasp that he is stopping everyone while slicer clock is ticking so there so no reason to keep him alive as he is just preventing progressing gameplan or dealing with slicer. If you can't progress the gameplan why would you care about stopping others, you gamble to win instead of wait to lose.

@winssports4830

11 ай бұрын

That's Crims play style he's use to playing safe until he has the win instead of going for the win. Unless he has Akromas Will he generally doesn't finish games.

Dunno how viable it is, but I'd love some prints of some of the video-specific drawings, or maybe posting hi-res versions to use as desktops?

OMG Tomer! Love to see your original decks, especially in cEDH. I wanna try this slicer deck. It looks like soooo much fun!

More then one game!?!??? Oh I love it!

Tomer's hand chops were so funny, best part of the episode.

I've been waiting to find out why blue farm is called that but Richard's explanation at 23:18 doesn't make any sense because tymna and bruse is a mardu deck. Unless he means to tell us there was a mardu cEDH deck called "farm" and blue farm is the variation you get from adding blue to it by subbing out the weaker partner for kraum.

Timer hitting a mean dab in the thumbnail

Please more cEDH episodes! =)

I just won a game last week with Serra Ascendant. Turn one Serra is freaking brutal!!!!

Have a Winota cEDH deck I love it really cool seeing crim play a deck that has 90% the sames cards have played hundreds of game with Winota and the deck is so addictive

How is Crim drawing and playing more lands on CEDH week than on normal weeks? Lol

Crim with the unnecessary spite play when Tomer made the correct play. Yeah he couldve played slicer but it wouldnt have been enough and Richard and Seth wouldve been completely unlocked. Crim played really badly and then took his frustrations out on Tomer.

tomer had the turn 1 slicer game 2 and blood mooned instead!! sd;fjsadf;lkjsa;lkjfd

@nicbui

11 ай бұрын

Huge miss. Very disappointing to watch

54:06 my favourite part of the video.

I don’t play cedh but Tomer’s t1 blood moon and Crim’s t2 LD seemed like the right play?

@LVL99Totodile

11 ай бұрын

Not at all, the blood moon was certainly correct. The LD was very obviously a spite play and not correct at all

Enjoyed watching you guys play cEDH… but that Blood Moon play in Game 2 is the reason why stax pieces can be so dangerous in the wrong hands

If Seth would of only cast his commander earlier in game one he could of threatened a win with derevi untapping his lands for combat combo win.

Tomer obviously hasn't played with Workshop before bc the opening hand would be great

Game 2, Tomer: Darksteel, Mox pitching blood moon, pyretic ritual, SLICER; Lotus Petal, Commander Plate, Pitch Simian Spirit Guide, EQUIP and ATTACK on turn one! Pretty sure you would have had a lot more fun with this line of play.

Man, this new style of snappy intro is just so nice.

Why didn't tomer play ruination on the first game right before Seth won? If he was worried Seth had a counter that goes against his philosophy of not playing scared lol. Gotta make them have it! That would've been a game winning line, i feel forcing the swords was the wrong move.

Seth should have exiled the Force instead of the silence so he could play around Pyroclasm.

T1 Bloodmoon was the correct play.

Zed missing that najeela and derevi are a combo killed me xd

@karateLynge

11 ай бұрын

Was somewhat lucky for him that he didnt realize that najeela was the right play turn two rather than derevi, because of pyroblast. Even so, it felt wild to just see a random derevi on an empty board, and none of Them knowing about such a common combo. I like the content, but feel like they should read the primers for the decks. :)

@mateosalazar846

11 ай бұрын

@@karateLynge agreed the correct line of play would have ended with zed been blown up by the pyro. Yeah agreed that they should read the primer at least, it was kinda weird seeing the conversation about najeela on game 2

Ready to Slice n' Dice!

i dont get why tomer didnt slicer on turn 2 with the mishras workshop instead of urzas saga

There's no room for spite plays in cEDH.

Great wins Seth! Glad to see you all having fun playing some of the strongest decks this format has to offer! As a friendly reminder Derevi is there to go infinite with najeela herself! Najeela makes a warrior for every warrior that is declared attacking which she herself is a warrior to start things off! Derevi lets you untap lands on combat damage and if you have all your colors you can order the Derevi triggers to untap your lands and then tap it for the rainbow mana needed to activate najeela. This can be done with a single rainbow land as well by floating the mana between the Derevi untap triggers! Najeela's math is that you only need 6 combats to kill the table if there are no blockers. The summoner's pact you were questioning in Game 2 is actually there so you can get a copy of Derevi for 0 mana for a potential win on the spot. The usual intuition pile is often sevinnes, breach, and LED. This way, no matter what card is chosen you can always at least flash back the sevinnes to get back breach. With enough cards in the GY you can then use LED mana to potentially then use intuition again from the GY to find Brain freeze. What great in Najeela though is your intuition pile can change based on board state or which win (breach or najeela) you are trying for. I've intuitioned for derevi, dockside, and sevinnes as a way to win with najeela or in tough spots you can often tutor for sevinnes, rhystic study, mystic remora to guarantee a card draw engine. Glad to see her perform well and hopefully you had a lot of fun playing her!

looking for an aggro or abzan midrange finish

I think Tomer's played Slicer more than Gargos at this point

When she invites you for some Chill and Edh, but her parents show up out of nowhere with some Turbo Stax...

From cEDH back to causal with the spite plays. The first game was good though.

Cheerios are not global. I've heard about them in American media, but never seen them anywhere in Europe.

@swebartender4697

11 ай бұрын

well I have seen cherrios in a couple of european countries, so either you haven't really looked for them or they don't sell in your country

Seth loves his 5-color decks

CLASH ON!!!!

Slicer deals 21 commander damage on the first turn sycle then it is 24 each turn after. Every player can swing w it and there are 4 players

Karn surf emote was choice 🎉

This went from everyone make fun of tomer's deck to everyone run from tomer's deck so fast 🤣

As an avid cedh player I would say you guys have a fundamental flaw in your game play. You mulligan to passively. In cedh you aggressively mulligan for an absolutely fire of a hand.

Seth sitting with derevi combo on board having no clue

You could also just mill everyone else out with the Brain Freeze storm copies.

Could t crim have temporarily exiled blood moon with touch the spirit realm to get some of those cards cast, or flickerder out Najeela on the snowball turn to slow the game down and buy them some time.

@liamw.1313

11 ай бұрын

it requires white mana

@bondeulv

11 ай бұрын

Also Touch the Spirit Realm's abilities can only target creatures and artifacts.

Seeing Tomer with a Mishra's workshop in hand feels so wrong