The Darkest Secrets in Boxing..
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Donating the proceeds to Doyle's mother/family says alot about him. What an honorable man
@charlesmarcus7864
Жыл бұрын
Took the words out of my mouth.
@Bilow_Selhi
Жыл бұрын
He donated the proceeds from the next 4 fights he had.
@ddorsey738
Жыл бұрын
Especially back then
Ray Robinson's premonition is one of the scariest things in boxing history. Holy-!!!
@mauriceosullivan6832
Жыл бұрын
Dare,, you've always got to go with your gut feeling,, its seldom wrong.
Someone once said something along the lines of: "Imagine how corrupt you think boxing can possibly be. The truth is, it's actually much worse."
@talktalk2412
Ай бұрын
Who said that?
That Robinson premonition is a powerful reminder we can all have a sort of look into the future under the right conditions.
@AnglandAlamehnaSwedish
Жыл бұрын
Truth I believe
@thejamnasium6447
Жыл бұрын
Abe Lincoln also dreamt of his fate. and in the Bible before Pilate sentences Jesus to death his wife tells him she's had troubling dreams about him. I fully believe it. I think dreams might be a peek into a world we know nothing about.
@dylankapa
Жыл бұрын
@@thejamnasium6447 right on
@sakuragiibanez4579
Жыл бұрын
Even pacman dream before that marqueZ knock out
@liteflunky
Жыл бұрын
Very true. My dad had constant dreams of his dead girlfriend calling him to join her in heaven before he died in a crash
great list, as a boxing historian, it's truly sickening how much shady shit has happened in the sport. Off the top of my head, I would add Arturo Gatti and Macho Camacho's murders, and Max Kellerman's brother being murdered by Butler with a hammer. Crazy stuff.
@petercolley8289
Жыл бұрын
Ok or
@nextonurleft2366
Жыл бұрын
Also missing Gaetan Hart
@INUAGAIN
Жыл бұрын
Pro sports is shady shit, all of it, because it has become about the $$$ and people just aren't honest
@tonym994
Жыл бұрын
I still feel bad about Vernon Forrest, shot by a punk, killed. but he didn't know his assailant. I remember the night of a big Hearns fight, there was a murder at his house or something. you guys know it better than me. what happened?
@NeoIsAFreeMan
Жыл бұрын
None of these are unknown secrets
Resto not only had padding removed from his gloves but he also covered his hand wraps in plaster. Collins basically was getting hit with concrete fists!!
@bastadimasta
Жыл бұрын
Resto and his trainer were worthless scums.
@gophockyusefvongugle2968
Жыл бұрын
And still wasn't knocked out. What a warrior. What was done to him was a grave injustice.
@markb6863
Жыл бұрын
Trinidad did the same thing. Hopkins put an end to that. Why was this not covered
@27rykou
Жыл бұрын
Panama Lewis. Also famous for the “give me the mix” quote during Pryor and Arguello
@slimslam69
Жыл бұрын
@@markb6863 why don't you go make your own boxing videos then? Since you want to bitch so much 🙄
Billy Collins Jr was a tough tough man to take such a beating bare knuckle for all those rounds. I believe with that kind of chin and talent he would have been more than just a serious contender, a lot more.
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
He wasn't shit. Tainted gloves or not, he shouldn't have been hit so much. Another overrated white boy. Great white hope. Proven to be another dope
@nicholashannigan6930
Жыл бұрын
Yep.... Absolutely 💯
@kilakr13
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't bare knuckle, hands were wrapped in plaster. Panama put em on to it
@jerichobeach2967
Жыл бұрын
@@kilakr13 true but still… damn
@Anino_Makata
Жыл бұрын
I commented this on a video dedicated to the Resto/Collins scandal, but I'll say it here too. In a fair world, the name "Irish" Billy Collins would've been heralded as one of the great champs of the sport. For his future to be so shamelessly ripped from him in the way Luis and Panama did was a grave travesty. I hope that in the next life, he shares a seat amongst the greats at their table.
Luis Resto dipped his wraps in plaster. You forgot to add that part. That's why Billy Collins' face looked the way it did.
@Realkeepa
Жыл бұрын
what excatly is plaster?sorry bad eng
@Realkeepa
Жыл бұрын
no paddern is that there is no polster in the gloves,right?but plaster?like szreet plaster?
@Realkeepa
Жыл бұрын
ok sorry i googled it.but that would be seen ore what would plaster be good for?it brakes lyghtly
@ronalds.658
Жыл бұрын
There was talk Jack Dempsey did the against Jess Willard.
@noahblevins9569
Жыл бұрын
@@Realkeepa The plaster hardens. Even if it cracks, it is still way heavier and harder than the cotton wraps. It would effectively feel like being punched with a few ounces of concrete.
Biggest tragedy ever. Resto vs Collins. Padding removed from gloves. Panama lewis is a horrible human being.
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
The biggest tragedy ever was Black men not getting chances to fight for world titles after Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of a couple white champions and and laughed at em. How's a white boy gonna claim he's champion when he's scared to fight Black men. Talking bout you, Jack Dempsey. And Panama is no worse than slave owners and police officers today.
@retiredboxingref7620
Жыл бұрын
as a former, 'now Retired' Cincinnati Pro Referee... I wholly agree! Lewis was bad news.
@scottculli7851
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was really disgusting removing the padding from the gloves, all involved deserve a long prison sentence
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
@@scottculli7851 It tickles me when I hear white males demonstrating disgust for the crimes of others. Talk about the teacup calling the saucer white.
@kevinclark8549
Жыл бұрын
Also plaster paris on his hand wraps. A very sad and tragic story.
Joe Bugner, known as Aussie Joe, was often derided for not having a big punch for such a big skilful boxer. Few know that early in his career one of his opponents died after the fight. Joe had the big punch, but he never again used his full power.
The background music definitely added a ton of tension for me
@PogoTheC1own
Жыл бұрын
Truth!
If you look at the rankings today, you can say they’re still getting paid off
As a 6 year old settling in to watch the fight I asked my Dad " Has anyone ever been killed in a fight" He replied "It happens, but it is extremely rare" And then we watched Grifith beat to death Benny 'The Kid " Paret As a fan I watched live when Resto and Collins fought. And was perceptive enough to be puzzled as to why Resto's punches seemed so much more damaging than Collins And I watched Ray Mancini beat to death his opponent. At that time I was a fighter and yes, it affected my next fight as the ref gave me a quick standing 8 count for a couple light blows
@Mikefantasia22
Жыл бұрын
doo koo Kim or somethin was Mancini's opponent
@christophercruz1513
Жыл бұрын
How are you now? Are you still a fighter
@wildtill9
Жыл бұрын
@@christophercruz1513Oh good lord no longer a fighter Never rose above the level of mediocre but all is good with my life
@sd097
Жыл бұрын
@@wildtill9 didn't rubin hurricane carter beat Griffith when he moved up to middle Weight? Way before my time
How in THE WORLD has Don King not lost his right to work with boxers???
@jesuspernia8031
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea. He deserves eternal torture in hell.
@marktaylor7025
Жыл бұрын
It's all about the money baby.
@scottbelcher9026
Жыл бұрын
@@marktaylor7025 yes, very sad…
@danoliver3470
Жыл бұрын
race card baby
@jesuspernia8031
Жыл бұрын
@@danoliver3470 That’s exactly how he fucked up Tyson. That whole “I’m your black brother” bit..
I never knew the Sugar Ray story man that’s deep! I have those premonitions sometimes as well. I never seem to listen all the time and I’ve lived to regret it every time.
@logosfocus
Жыл бұрын
always trust ur gut, sometimes God almighty gives you an out 🕊
@iamatlantis1
Жыл бұрын
Yeah when you get a sudden 'feeling' its your body trying to warn you. We are sensitive to things that we have forgotten how to perceive, but it still comes through sometimes in the most extreme situations or in our dreams etc. The knowledge of this type of "6th sense" has been purposely destroyed and hidden away, people are much much easier to control in the masses that way.
@slimslam69
Жыл бұрын
@@logosfocus what God you talking about? The Christian God?
@MrMarco855
Жыл бұрын
@@slimslam69 There's only one God.
Great upload, most of these I knew of already being a hard-core boxing fan....... Unfortunately it's so many negative stories that can be told about boxing and the cover-ups that will probably never be brought to light. Thanks for shedding some light on the sport I love even though it wasn't the most positive ✌🏽
@mowvu5380
Жыл бұрын
i love boxing but wow is it corrupt and nasty. it's hard to believe which champs are actually champs. how many thrown fights and rigged decisions there were and still are. it's hard to take it seriously these days
@Snickerszn
Жыл бұрын
@@mowvu5380 I think it has gotten better but every controversial decision always make you think.
I'm a bit of a boxing fan and yet I never once saw that interview with Robinson about his premonition wow! Great stuff, thank you
I agree with Ali about Robinson being the goat. That Jimmy Doyle story is eerie.
I felt so sorry for Kim Duk-koo and his mother. May they rest in peace.
@moustachio334
Жыл бұрын
He must have been her only son. In Korea, the eldest son supports his mother. Without him, she would be looked down upon by her peers. It’s sad but true. I understand her reasoning to take her life for fear of being an unwanted in Korean society.
This is so well made! Didn’t even realise 26 minutes had passed
@jefbiggs1583
Жыл бұрын
For real
@slimslam69
Жыл бұрын
That's what your mother said to me last night as well
Yeah well you can't take anything away from George Foreman he was a beast
Corruption always in boxing 🥊 and politics never end.
Great video, just wish it was longer. Can you please make a part 2! Unfortunately, we know there’s no shortage of dark moments in boxing history.
@slimslam69
Жыл бұрын
Yea there is wym?
And that's the ones we no about can you imagine what else has been going on in the world of boxing it's been always a fixed sport and it never will change
Man your videos is truly amazing. I really appreciate your hard work, your videos always make my day better.
Sugar ray and Tyson Fury both talk of their dreams/ premonitions before the fights do we dream it into happening or is something higher than ourselves warning us
What a great video!!! Thansk for the content , we'll put
Extremely interesting video, some things here came out that not everybody even in boxing circles know probably. Some real eye openers here, no doubt. Thanks for this.
Just subscribed after this brilliant insightful video thank you for uploading
@dinooliver6375
Жыл бұрын
Just a speculation, but I think backed by the mob
Corruption is worse then it’s ever been these days
Thank you for the video, very impressive
Good video, spot on with everything.
I hate how much Mike Tyson got screwed over. It's really such a messed up thing because Mike really is a good guy and Don King and his 1st wife took Soo much from Mike and really took a toll on him internally and professionally
I saw the Griffith fight live on TV in 1962. I was 11. My father and grandfather were watching the fight.
When Leonardwas given the decision over Hagler I threw my hands up in the air and quit watching boxing. Just too many bad decision. When Tyson replaced Kevin Rooney as his trained as required by Don King he got rid of the best trainer in boxing, lost to Buster Douglas and destroyed his career.
@sholland42
Жыл бұрын
Kevin Rooney was fantastic, Don King was the worst thing that ever happened to boxing.
@seekersudarshan2078
Жыл бұрын
which other great champions has Kevin Rooney trained? He's overrated. Mike has himself to blame.
@yourdedcat-qr7ln
Жыл бұрын
@@seekersudarshan2078 only him, sure.
@SovietMOB
Жыл бұрын
118-110 Canelo - GGG in the first fight should be one of the worst decisions in boxing history!!
@jeremywatson9129
Жыл бұрын
@@SovietMOB robbery amongst robberies.
18:00 See how fast Don King stops smiling…
@swoodrell
Жыл бұрын
Damn nice catch. That is some psychopath shit. As soon as Ali's ass diverted from him the fake smile literally disappeared as fast I have ever saw a smile disappear.
Fantastic video. Thank u
Maybe the greatest cameo role in the history of motion pictures was don kings appearance in The Devils Advocate. Don King sitting with Al Pacino who was playing the devil.
This is hi risk high pay. It is really sad but that's just the way it is the head was not meant to be hit by a fist. God bless all our fallen 🙏🙏🙏 boxers.
@biltom
Жыл бұрын
no, God Bless our real hero's, our military who fight and die for our freedoms........
@jordanfender3085
Жыл бұрын
So the military is the only people that God should bless?? Just because there boxers and didn’t “fight for our freedom” doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be honored or sympathized for, and these guys weren’t claiming to be hero’s… they were all tough boxers with a lot of heart and unfortunately passed.
@JoseDiaz-yl9sh
Жыл бұрын
@@jordanfender3085 God bless our fallen boxers. The military keeps Us free and I'm not for war but sometimes we don't have a choice
what about Manny Pacquiao "breaking" his hand just before the fight with Mayweather?
Thanks for making this video. I wish there will be a part 2 to cover G Man vs Nigel Benn. And Chris Eubanks vs Micheal Watson. Tragic endings to both fights
Wait a minute - What about my boy Roy Jones Jr getting robbed at the Olympics??? It doesn't get more polarizing than that!
@csnide6702
Жыл бұрын
Holyfield was robbed at Olympics
i was thinking that i mustve seen this a while ago because i know of everything on here. but its not long been uploaded..... dayumn I'm more of a boxing nerd than I realised! great video anyway. Hope you're all well and good.
Collins Snr suspected the gloves had been tampered with that's why he grabbed them the handshake was an excuse to grab them.
If possible a Truthful bio on Sonny Liston . Alot of faked stories abound but that Mystery punch from Clay is questionable. He threw that fight and died for his actions. I believe your an Honorable reporter and will do it justice. Thanks for hearing me out.
@anthonysmall5090
Жыл бұрын
Mysterious did you see the way Listons head snap back.
@easy_eight2810
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysmall5090 He got knocked down, but many people said he decided to stay down. Because of how much beating Sonny Liston took throughout his career, fans doubt he'd be knocked out by a single punch in the 1st round.
@theoteddy9665
Жыл бұрын
yes please, sony would eat clay, if he wasnt scared to death, he puposly didnt hit ali, thats whats obvious
@theoteddy9665
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysmall5090 I snap my head when I play with my baby son..thats what it was
@theoteddy9665
Жыл бұрын
@@gi7685 did you see clays surprise??? he knew
Edwin Valero walked to the front of his hotel and told them his wife was dead pretty sure he stabbed her if i remember right I've never heard this version of the story
@craigcottrell1172
Жыл бұрын
Actually, pretty poor that the focus is on losing an exciting fighter, rather than the murdering animal he was. His wife had already suffered a collapsed lung and been hospitalised from one of his rampages before he took a knife to her.
Pro sports is purely entertainment and nothing else. When you understand this, it all makes sense. All sports are fixed.
@seansullivan7928
Жыл бұрын
That is so true, the hype is never real for anything
The referee should have checked the gloves like all referees do when the match starts on the fighter who's padding was took out of the gloves
@terryhill4732
Жыл бұрын
@@gi7685 maybe , out of all professional sports , boxing probably is the most corrupt
Way to go Mike!
Wow.. This was unexpected!! I never knew this.thus.. real Boxing History 🥊💎💯
you make such good content, can you make a video on dwight muhammad qawi, that would be a good watch!
You forgot (or didn’t know) Bob arum is on camera admitting to trying to give fights to a legally blind billy Collin.
Good video and narration
The voice is killing me !😂😂
You missed one Alexis Arguillo vs Arron Paryor...just watch the fight. His trainer spiked his water bottle with speed.
You should have put the murder of Arturo Gotti in there.
@itsJade360
Жыл бұрын
Cause that WAS murder💯💯💯
@DaileyShorts
Жыл бұрын
DEF murder
Everyone knows about the 2 fights between Ali/Liston. Some still argue that the 2nd fight was legitimate. It wasn't, even a casual fan knows better. The controversy began regarding whether or not the punch landed that floored Liston. After a replay proved it did land, many people went from doubt about the punch landing to believing it was a real fight. The truth is that the punch landed but it could never have knocked Liston down. He was hit by bombs to the face from a young Cleveland Williams and he went nowhere. He had a bloody nose proving he was hit hard, but he walked thru those bombs and KO'D Williams in 3 rounds, then in 2 rounds in the rematch. Ali fans say that Liston went down from the punch and stayed down to avoid another beating like he took in the first fight. That's absurd, the light tap wouldn't have put Liston down and Liston had no reason to ' fear another beating' because their first fight was also fixed. Most don't believe that the 1st fight was fixed but they're wrong. An astute fan can plainly see Liston punching too late, pulling punches, holding wide open shots to the head, throwing a high number of body shots that can easily be held without scrutiny. In the 3rd round alone Liston started his right hand forward on 2 separate occasions, then held it back, switching to a light body shot each time. He had Ali cornered in that round but let him walk out. He held back an overhand right when Ali was wide open, dropping the punch softly as if a parachute was on his arm. Once Ali bent over at the waist in front of Liston, using both gloves to cover the side of his head. Ali didn't try to move, he resigned himself to being hit hard. Liston towered over him, but he never threw a power shot. Instead, he threw a soft body shot. These examples all took place in the 3rd round. The same thing played out in the other rounds. Proof of sorts can be seen in the last round before Sonny quit. No fighter has ever surrendered a world title sitting on his chair in the corner, it's important to know that. A tough guy like Liston was the last man that would have done that, unless there were unknown circumstances. Watch the last 45 seconds of the last round in their first fight. Ali is not being aggressive; he's not pressuring Liston at all. Liston threw 6 punches in those last 45 seconds. He threw 5 jabs and one left hook, all with his left hand. The round ended and within a few seconds Liston had decided that he was going to quit. The question is; why would a man with a shoulder injury so bad that it forced him to give up the championship that he chased for several years, throw 6 punches all with his left when he had no reason to throw any punches with his left in the last 45 seconds of the last round? There's no answer to that question, a badly hurt/damaged shoulder would prevent any fighter from using it if he could avoid using it. Liston used it freely throwing 6 punches, including a big left hook, then within seconds he quit. He never showed any discomfort in that shoulder at any time during the fight. There's other evidence as well. The FBI watched boxing closely in those days because cheating was rampant. Agents were assigned to the first Ali/Liston fight in Miami, 1964. The result of their investigation wasn't known until the Washington Post issued a FOIA request only about 10 years ago. They obtained the resulting FBI report. It said that they believed unanimously that the fight was fixed but couldn't bring charges because of a lack of hard evidence. There's more evidence to indicate a fix but I won't go into it. The fixed fights you don't know about; Ali had one more fixed fight. It was against Zora Folley and was the last fight before his forced retirement/suspension. I knew something was wrong after watching a few rounds. They circled each other too passively, neither seemed interested in punching. When they did punch it seemed controlled. At one point they were so close they almost rubbed against each other, yet neither threw a punch. Ali threw a right hand that hit Folley, then another that either barely grazed or completely missed. Folley hesitated after the first right, then went down after the 2nd right even though it didn't land. He ' caught' himself to break his fall as he landed on the mat. Then he lay flat and didn't move. At about 6 he jumped to a squatting position, whirled around to look at his trainer, then quickly jumped to his feet at the count of 8/9. It was as if he needed his trainer to tell him to get up. The next round Folley went down again. When he tried to get up he did a strange tumbling act all the way across the ring to a corner, then stood up. By then the referee had counted him out. He stood motionless staring at the referee, not complaining at all, just staring at him, then looking at his corner as if unsure what to do next. Neither of the punches that put him down were hard enough to knock down a good HW fighter. Look at the first knockdown, you'll see a right hand followed by another right hand. Neither was a hard shot and Folley went down after the 2nd punch, a punch that either missed or barely grazed his cheek. Watch in slow motion and you'll see the 2nd punch did not land, or not solidly for sure. For me what happened right after the fight was the most telling aspect. Ali quickly went over to Folley and put his arm around Folley's neck. He walked Folley to the ropes and stayed right there for longer than you would expect. Finally, he let go of Folley and Zora disappeared from the ring in the blink of an eye. He wasn't hurt so why was there no interview in the ring, which is mandatory I believe? Nobody said a word to Folley, not even his own people. Ali was ' guarding' him from everyone. Why? Because the fight was fixed and it was feared that Folley, a soft- spoken guy not interviewed very often, might say something wrong and 'spill the beans'. There has to be a reason if a fight was fixed. Ali fans will say there was no reason, that Ali would have beaten Folley easily. They're not taking into account what was at stake, however. Ali knew this was his last fight before suspension, that was a fact. It wasn't known if he would ever be allowed to fight again, that's also a fact. If Ali had a chance to fight again, he would need all the leverage he could get to bargain with. That leverage depended upon one thing; Ali had to remain an undefeated champion of the world, only dethroned by circumstances. Let's say that Ali lost his last fight to Folley. What leverage would he have as a once-beaten ex-champion? Very little. The leverage depended upon him remaining undefeated and remaining the 'peoples champion'. The people, at some point, would likely insist that he be allowed to fight again to prove if he's still the unbeatable champ,..........or not. It boiled down to that there was too much to risk. Ali's die-hard fans think he would have beaten Folley easily, therefore no reason to fix the fight. I say nonsense, Folley was 79-6 at the time, had won 10 fights in a row, 4 of those against tough opponents. He had been ranked in the top 3 or 4 for a decade and he had a decent punch. It was no sure thing that Ali could beat Folley, not with so much at stake especially. Ali would have been the favorite of course and probably would have won but he needed more than that. He needed a guaranteed win, and there's only one way to get that. Ali wasn't going to be himself either, if you think about it. His suspension was hanging over his head, his boxing career was in jeopardy, he was even being threatened with time in prison. Any man would have difficulty training hard and difficulty concentrating during the fight with these things on his mind. It made good sense to fix the fight and since Folley was willing and probably paid a handsome bonus to go along, they did indeed fix the fight. It guaranteed that Ali maintained the leverage he would need if he was ever going to fight again. There was a lot at risk. Ali needed a sure thing so he chose not to take that risk.................... Tyson had many fixed fights but this is already too long so I'll spare you those stories. I'll only say it's very interesting how Tyson's fights with Holyfield had something to do with fixed fights, and it all makes perfect sense. I'll make another post re: Tyson's fixed fights.
@noahblevins9569
Жыл бұрын
That was a good read. You certainly seem to know your stuff.
@MrMarco855
Жыл бұрын
@@noahblevins9569 Thank you. I only know a little because of life experience. God Bless you.
@DennisGinther
Жыл бұрын
I watch all of Ali's fights. I never suspected or thought any of his fights to be rigged. I'm sorry to have to say this to you. But it kinda ticks me off that you would try and tarnish his reputation when he can not be here to defend himself. Muhammad Ali was and is the Greatest of all time. RIP. Let's let him Rest in Peace. Stop disrespecting his legacy. Obviously, you have no evidence but your opinion. Always talk greatness about your forefathers who carried the burden to make life better for all of us. Muhammad was a great man. Lets leave it at that.
@MrMarco855
Жыл бұрын
@@DennisGinther You watched all of his fights and never suspected any were fixed? That means nothing more than you don't know how to recognize a fixed fight. It doesn't mean that none of his fights were fixed. You think he was a great man and therefore I should say nothing if he was in 3 fixed fights? Ridiculous. Wherever Muhammad Ali is right now, he agrees with me. A great man doesn't need credit for a fixed fight. I'm interested in the truth. I have faults and have sinned, the same is true of Ali and all others. He wasn't anything more than a human being, just like the rest of us. Those 3 fights were fixed, I had nothing to do with it. You think I should be quiet because you like Ali, but that's not the way it works. It's only your opinion that he was the greatest, my opinion is that Sonny Liston was the best heavyweight in history. I would never tarnish anyone with slander, lying about them in any way. What I'm saying is the truth. You said it's obvious that I have no evidence, I have only my opinion. Obviously you don't pay attention. I gave several good reasons to believe those fights were fixed, and I mentioned that the FBI investigated and concluded the first fight between Ali and Liston was fixed. Is that my opinion, what's written in an FBI report? People like you that defend Ali never have any evidence, you're driven by emotion. I always research before I say anything. You're guilty of what you accused me of.
@DennisGinther
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMarco855 Yada, Yada, yada. All I'm saying is do not talk badly about the people that have gone before you. The reasoning behind this is; 1)When you die and are gone. They will pick your life apart. They will say you're a shit starter. A back biter. A conspiracy theorist. My father taught me to always talk great things of the people who went before us. They paved our way. Ali was the greatest of all time and a great man and role model for all of us. I have nothing more to say or listen to from you. Let it go. It's over.
brilliant video
I always forget how to spell his name but what happened to Valero was so sad. It was obviously a setup. Valero had a good heart and was at one time becoming the best in the world.
@27rykou
Жыл бұрын
Was training at the Grand Olympic boxing club when he was there. Dude was a killer. Would’ve taken Manny out. I’ve watched both spar several times. Valeros timing was phenomenal.
@slimslam69
Жыл бұрын
@@27rykou no he wouldn't have. What makes you think that? Maybe your fake training you did at your fake boxing club? Sounds about right 🙄
@27rykou
Жыл бұрын
@@slimslam69have seen them both train in person several times at grand Olympic and at the Wildcard. Just because you don’t get out of your mommy’s basement doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about. Look into Mikey Garcia’s opinion of Valero. He’s sparred them both. Or, continue to walk around crying about the many things you don’t know about.
@Anino_Makata
Жыл бұрын
I wanna look further into Valero's record. Never heard of him, but 27-0 (27 KO's) is one hell of a resume. And as much as I love Manny, Pacquiao Vs Valero could've been greater than what the Mayweather fight meant.
@hybs9473
Жыл бұрын
@@27rykou Valero's opponent doesn't hold a candle on Manny's journey to the death row. Stop talking out of your ass.
a very good video man.
Should have mentioned James Butler who sucker punched his opponent when he went to shake his hand at the end of the fight. After being released from prison boxing commentator Max Kellerman's brother decided to house and help him and was rewarded by being beaten to death with a hammer.
@goodyeoman4534
Жыл бұрын
That's disgusting. It boggles the mind how some people are so obsessed with 'helping' someone that they risk the lives of themselves and their families.
@orion3190
Жыл бұрын
Wow totally unbelievable. . But true
Sugar ray Robinson is the best to lace a pair up 🥊
Great video insights to the corrupt boxing world
This sh!t hit's HARD! Like the John Wayne's Impossible Groove Machine! 😁😆😅😂😂🤣
Thanks For Your Sharing
Don king is like the phil spector of the boxing industry,Rip Don King, Rest In Piss..
Sugar Ray was a bad ass AND a CLASS ACT!!!! JUST LIKE ALI. How many fighters nowadays woulda done what he did with his prize money, giving it to his opponents mother are you kiddin me. Wow what a gentleman
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have given her anything. She probably hated Black people her entire life
@anon2427
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a real man, he deserves all the respect
Great video
Sugar ray Robinson seen the future in a dream, I think we all see the future in dreams.
great show
Awesome video brother
I am a huge boxing fan. I grew up watching Muhammad Ali Sphinx Tyson all the greats. And donating his purse to this man's mother to buy home sugary proves he's the greatest and that's it!!
since you say Don King is evil, who else is evil, since you seem to know, certainly there is more than one evil person in boxing
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis
Жыл бұрын
you could argue to put Panama Lewis in that category.
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis
Жыл бұрын
ive never known anyone to stand up for king.
@ronaldmurphy9152
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis black people who do the same thing as the people who created the system get all the blame for the system. If someone in the boxing world says something positive about Don King, they would probably be black balled. It's just like doctors who won't speak against the snake venom with the nano dna changing technology in it. They will get fired. Like Dr Faucci did Judy Mikovitz.
@itsJade360
Жыл бұрын
Bob arum . I said what I said .
@ronaldmurphy9152
Жыл бұрын
@@itsJade360 I can agree with that
184. 109. Those numbers are insane, and from the Tyson era. Props Subd
Out of all of them. Mosely was honest. That I can forgive. Mosely is still a great man.
Absolutely I did exactly the same thing I have never any replays ever
Bob arum is just as crooked as don King
My dad worked one of sugar rays fight in Detroit. I believe he said that sugar paid him $50 bucks, real good money for a part time job.
Rich the fight historian get any credit for the stuff you stole from him for this video ?
@Coco-xw3wp
Жыл бұрын
OHH SHUT UP AND GET A JOB! WHY ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THIS?? GTFOH THIS IS A MASTERPIECE! WHAT A HATER...
He called Don King evil. The whole sport has been crooked from the beginning way before a Don King came along! Sad....
@TCthaCrisis
Жыл бұрын
And all they wanna talk about is Don King.. Not ever the other terrible promoters.. barely the mafia.. Don King.
@TCthaCrisis
Жыл бұрын
@Delo Ppl see your hypocrisy. Racists wanna erase history so bad to show how racism runs deep in your core. "Always the victim" while ignoring the racial tragedies in the sports history alone. Don is the ONLY ONE he talked down on immediately while theirs killers on this list that wasnt called one name. Shut your mouth.
@hazeshi6779
11 ай бұрын
He seems evil that's why, gives off that vibe.
After seeing this video feeling bad being boxing lover 😭
@TCthaCrisis
Жыл бұрын
If you were a boxing lover you would've known all these already.
@klassic350
Жыл бұрын
@@TCthaCrisis in childhood we haven't have the information about this we built-up knowing wat seen
It's not a dark secret knowing how corrupt boxing is
Mention of Ray Mancinis victim Duk ko kim but no mention of Johnny Owens death in his 1980 WBC bantam title fight in the 12th round against Lupe Pintor
@craigcottrell1172
Жыл бұрын
That documentary 'The Long Journey Home' where Owen's dad meets Pintor in Mexico before inviting him to Wales to meet all the family is as sad as anything I've seen.
Excellent
90% of them are fixed. It's ridiculous that people think they're watching real shit . 😒
Yeah they used to call it the stinger in my day. They don't let you use that no more
The resto story is so sad . HBO did a terrific documentary about it . It was so obvious Panama masterminded the entire thing and he went on with his life and career while luis was derailed .in the documentary luis goes to Miami to speak to Panama this was about a year before Panama died and he asked him just be honest and just admit the truth just so Louie would have peace of mind and the world would know. Statue of limitations were over so he wouldn't of even got in trouble for admitting it but Panama still denied it. He was manipulating luis by telling him he would get him a job and saying he's like a son to him
@StraightouttaBristol
Жыл бұрын
Assault in the ring...😢
An overlooked case that i expected to see here, and no one mentioned about it... is the tragedy of Prichard Colon
Bought his opponents mom a house and donated everything he won off the fight to that poor mother.. Dudes a class act.
Margarito went oh and three to start his career and then all of a sudden game knock out power. If you look at his wins against Kermit Cintron and Coto you could easily tell that he was cheating with plastered hands
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
Somewhat like Pacquiao suddenly punching like Mike Tyson after age 30. Hmm, wonder how.
@MrMarco855
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyjohnson9403 That's nonsense and it's slander. Mayweather started that crap because he feared Pacquiao. You don't know anything about Pacquiao apparently. He started knocking guys out at 30? The truth is just the opposite, he stopped knocking guys out at 30, just like other fighters because they're facing the best who are more difficult to KO. If you can't tell the truth about his record, then how could you possibly know what others don't know? After the age of 30 he didn't knock out Margarito, Clottey, Marquez, Bradley in 3 fights, Mayweather, Mosley, Rios, Broner, Thurman, Horn, Vargas, Algieri, or Ugas. Beyond the age of 30 he stopped Matthysse, that's it. Early in his career, before Mayweather began slandering his name, he KO'd most of the guys he fought. That's the way it is for most fighters. The toughest guys you face are when you're in your prime or later, and the toughest are the most difficult to KO. Pacquiao KO'D one guy after the age of 30, but you claimed the opposite. You owe Pacquiao an apology, and tell Floyd that nobody believes his lies anymore. If you want to see with your own eyes who was using drugs, just ask and I'll show you. Floyd couldn't fight without using drugs right before a fight. I don't talk shit, I can prove it but I'll bet that you don't want to see the truth. Just say the word and I'll show you Floyd snorting dope in his dressing room before a fight. I saw him doing that twice before 2 separate fights, which means he did it before every fight. I don't say things unless I can prove it. Otherwise, it's slander. Pacquiao sued Floyd for slander. Floyd had to eat crow and pay Pacquiao 20 million$. That's what Floyd offered to keep the case out of court. Nobody knows about the lawsuit, you didn't know either. That's because Floyd paid a lot of money to keep it quiet, otherwise it would have been front page news for months. Stop accusing people if you don't know what you're talking about, it's a serious crime.
@anthonyjohnson9403
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMarco855 Yeah. Floyd was so afraid of Manny he beat him by unanimous decision.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Griffin vs Paret.. The referee was a shame, traumatizing to watch. Craziest I have seen in Boxing history.
@Anglovox
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps, Paret should not have run his mouth so much about Griffith being a pillow-ass homo!
Wow what a dream and then the donation great story
Emile Griffith beat Bennie Parent so viciously some say because Parent outed him before their 3rd fight
Resto had plaster casts on too.
Nice.
Boxing is bent like a banana Nuff said Do not believe anything that you’re here and believe half of what you see
Wow . This is very eeerie, tragic and sad. God was definitely trying to communicate with Sugar Ray in a dream
Shane Mahhz Lee
How about de la Hoya fixing flights?
How the hell Don King got away with all that shit is beyond me
@TCthaCrisis
Жыл бұрын
There are ppl killed and killed women and their wives and you're here talking about Don King.
@Casey-Jones
Жыл бұрын
black privilege