My tomatoes and morning glories are planted in the same containers as the sunflowers and they do awesome. The sunflower stems give nice structure. There's not a dark side to sunflowers, it's just learning from our grammies and grandpappies about what we can plant together. It's crazy that all of this stuff was known generations ago, but my country (U.S.A.) treats "old people" like they're useless. I learned from my parents and grandparents about what grows well together and what doesn't. I've also done volunteer visits at nursing homes for 4 decades. Gardening is one of my favorite subjects - I learn so much from other people's grandparents who've been brushed to the side by their kids and grandkids. I do appreciate you sharing this and your personal experience with the garlic on KZread, but to the young people of the U.S. or anywhere holding tightly their ageism prejudice - Go to a nursing home and learn about gardening. And how to value the humans in our communities with decades of experience.

@Soilfoodwebwarrior

2 ай бұрын

My parents are useless to ask gardening questions to, so maybe I will look for some other old people to ask. Or I will just go with the plethora of market gardeners who have you tube channels and have done these experiments for me already.

@Bubbaluv8

2 ай бұрын

@@Soilfoodwebwarrior Ah yes - You should always value media over actual human interaction. And over actual human beings that seriously need it. Orrr...not. *I benefit from both* - I've utilized KZread since 2009, and I've visited nursing homes and assisted living since the '80s. That's why I know how sad it is that our society throws all this wisdom out. It's crazy the gardening, building, nutrition, and great life "hacks" that I see as "new ideas!!!" or "science now says!!!" on YT that I was listening to as a teen doing volunteer visits 30 years ago. Believe me, I'm fully aware the majority of people here will disregard, dismiss and brush off the recommendation to visit old, lonely thrown out people who have far more experience and value than they're credited for - as you have. This is not a good thing. Replacing the elders of our community, who may be our own friends and family, with media is a loss to society, not a gain. PS: The elderly humans I refer to have "done these experiments already" - that's where their knowledge and experience comes from.

@Bubbaluv8

2 ай бұрын

@@Soilfoodwebwarrior Ah yes, you should always value media over actual human interaction. Over humans who actually need the compassion. Orrr....not. *I benefit from both*. I've utilized KZread since 2009, I've visited nursing homes and assisted living facilities since I was a teen in the '80s. That's how I know MOST of the "new ideas!!!" and "new scientific discoveries!!!" in gardening, farming, nutrition, and amazing life "hacks" on KZread are recycled from wisdom I listened to 30 years ago holding someone else's grammas hand and listening. Believe me, I'm fully aware most people will dismiss, disregard, and brush off my recommendation to visit the older ones of your community and listen to their wisdom - as you have done - but this is not a good thing. Replacing the elder humans in our communities with media is a serious loss - along with stupid, as how do any of us want to be treated as we age? I value my carefully chosen KZread channels, but there's a whole lot of garbage and clickbait on KZread I have to pick through to find the good. I value every minute of the time I spend with my old, wise friends, and there's no garbage. Newsflash: The elderly I speak of have "done these experiments already" - that's how they gained their experience.

Fun fact, sunflowers have been planted around Chernobyl to help remove cesium and strontium from the soil and ponds surrounding the site. Same with the Fukushima meltdown a few years back.

@terrapinflyer273

2 ай бұрын

Huh! So there's some sort of 'real life lore' behind the functionality of sunflowers in Terraria... That's amazing!

@user-ef2xl3kk8n

Ай бұрын

I heard that! It takes out the toxins from the soil. Very interesting.

We found the same problem with our pole beans and sunflowers. Now we plant the sunflowers in a bucket next to the beans and they all get along.

I have always had sunflowers mixed in with my vegetables and have had no issues.

@valtoton2982

Ай бұрын

Me too!

💚 around where I am living there are sunflowers growing along fence lines, around monoculture maize crops being grown for ensilage for cattle feed 💚 I love the cheerful faces of the sun flowers 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 the cows do well on a mix of herbage so it's a win-win 💚 I didn't mean to suggest you were a sunflower hater 🕊️🌿

I planted sunflowers a couple of times, I just love them and the insects they attract. But now they’ve become an annual weed in my yard. Be sure you pull them out before they go to seed.

I’m growing sunflowers right next to my first year raspberries. I haven’t noticed any issues so far. They are about 5 feet tall and shading the raspberries a bit. But I have fruit and lots of new growth. I love using the dried sunflower stalks for their poles. Very light weight and strong.

Thank you for mentioning the actual distance where you noticed negative interaction (you said things planted within about 3 feet). Everything I’ve read says “ don’t plant near” potatoes, but doesn’t define what near means. I’ve got a small space, and was wondering if a foot or two was enough!

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

You are so welcome! Thanks for watching! To play it safe, stay away from them with pretty much anything. I would say 2 feet is not enough.

I learned a lot from this video. Thanks for the information. That may explain why my potatoes didn't grow when planted under sunflowers!

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and the kind comment! I appreciate it very much!

Maybe sunflowers are toxic to some plants and not others? What about three sisters gardening that uses sunflowers instead of corn? My sunflowers and tomatoes are growing together right now. Admittedly, the sunflowers are only 8 inches tall. We'll see what happens very soon.

@clubmike2910

2 ай бұрын

I grew sunflowers at the end of my tomato bed last year and everything did great. I am doing the same this year.

@bluedreams517

2 ай бұрын

They'll be fine most likely. I’ve always had one or two by my toms. Honestly, I usually let one or two (or 20) volunteers grow throughout my garden beds. My guess is that you need to have a lot of them to have a more toxic effect. To be fair….I don’t grow garlic and my potatoes/beans are never by sunflowers. Plu my sunflowers are usually not food ones which are colossal. In my other garden, I used sunflowers to help reduce deer damage to other plants.

@skubajen

2 ай бұрын

They say potatoes and beans are the most susceptible.

@kludgescraftsplus8631

2 ай бұрын

I would simply question the environmental conditions of his garden. I use a sunshade structure to protect my plants, and collect rainwater. I can't imagine how hot it gets against that stone wall with so very little greenery on the ground.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

We are still not very hot here and the garden does not get the heat of the afternoon sun. During the height of the summer, I put sunshades up to protect the plants. I grew garlic in that same bed the previous year and had a bumper crop. Nothing changed except for the addition of my little volunteer friend that popped up. Thanks for watching! I do appreciate your comments too.

From a nutrition standpoint I don't eat many sunflower seeds because they are high in omega 6 but low in omega 3, meaning we have to add other foods rich in omega 3 to balance out the ratio, like walnuts, chia seed, flax seed, chlorella, squash, and leafy greens. It surprised me to learn during my nutritionist training that the amount of omega 3 you eat isn't as important as the ratio between omega 3 to omega 6, and should be as close to 1:1 as possible.

Very interesting but something that I need to research further. I have never noticed this to be true, and I make sure to have a few sunflowers in each garden bed, for shade. Also, I live in a mobile home so am bordered by neighbors that love roundup. I plant sunflowers along all the joining borders to clean the soil from the toxins seeping over into my vegetables. What I did notice is that my day lilies did not do well next to the sunflowers. So I pulled all sunflowers from the lilly area. This year the day lillies are thriving. Time for more sunflower research!

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I plant sunflowers every year in various parts of my gardens and have never noticed any delirious effects. I don't think 🤔 i buy it, garlic can be very finicky. Tomatoes, beans, peas cucumbers, cabbage, broccoli 🥦 are all also supposedly alliopathic.

I simply didn't know, this explains alot

I wish I had this knowledge sooner. Guess I’ll find out soon enough.

Thank you.. This explains a lot of why my 3 sisters companion planting didn't work as well as I had hoped 😕 I subscribed to your channel

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching & subscribing! And... I love the username! Yes, He is...!

@Godisincontrol325

Ай бұрын

@@inthegardenwithpatrick6247 you're welcome 😁 Happy to be here 🙏 Amen

We also have perennial Sunflowers that are shorter and more bunched up,,and loaded with flowers..I have a few growing among Iris,Daylilies, TeaRose,& Poppy mallow..

Thank you for the info. I was about to try the famous “three sisters” method by growing sunflower instead of corn in the middle. You saved me !

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you for this very good information

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Happy Gardening.

Do they also suppress weeds and grass? Maybe they could be used in combination with other allelopathic plants like black walnut to create a low maintenance landscape that would require less mowing and weeding?

I found this out the hard way by placing a bird feeder filled with sunflower seed under a mature spruce tree. I left the shells in place, thinking they would work as mulch. Nope. Killed the tree.

Good video

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊. Glad you enjoyed the video!

That's great! I now know where to plant/ not to. I wish they were snailiopathic. 😂

Free bird food…

@edie4321

2 ай бұрын

Only some birds can eat them. In New Mexico, I heard it was only Ravens. I was bummed.

I compost everything. I might now assume composting the roots and maybe any part of the plant may be a bad idea. Personally, I don't grow them but I pick up discards in my neighborhood and sunflowers, both wild and domesticated, are very popular.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

I would think that if you are hot composting, it would not matter so much as the temp might kill any of the issues? Not sure about that, though. Thanks so much for watching!

@misterdubity3073

2 ай бұрын

I did a quick search and found a study that concluded the sesquiterpene lactones responsible for the allelopathic effect "disappear from soil in 90 days" due to binding with humic substances and being degraded by soil organisms. Having read about half-lives of other substances in soil, there can be a lot of variation depending on temperature, moisture, and what bacteria are present. My guess is: after incomplete composting, probably still a problem; but after a thorough composting to finished compost, probably OK. But that's just my guess. Cheers.

I knew about certain trees & shrubs being allelopathic, didn't suspect sunflowers. I actually planted some in grow bags with lettuce & arugula, also in a bag with sweet potatoes. Now I'll pull them up & grow them in a separate bag of their own. Curiously, I am allergic to sunflower seeds & can't eat them at all. Thanks for the heads-up.

I plant sunflowers next to my tomatoes for shade, I have some plated next to my pole beans and a row of pro cut sunflowers next to my corn and everything looks great. My beans live climbing on them.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

Ай бұрын

Great tip!

I grow sunflowers every year, and we also have potatoes everywhere, almost as a weed. Last year there where potatoes growing amongst the sunflowers, I didn’t think much of it but seeing this video has me confused.

Thanks for this video. I was wondering but I guess I figured it out. I had chipmunks spreading the sunflower seeds from my bird seed everywhere and last year I noticed that the plants around where I left sunflowers were much smaller than the others so I’m not leaving any more sunflowers in the vegetable garden.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Yep! Blame it on the sunflower 🌻

Well, a little too late! I have sunflowers all around my garden except by the beans. I read that but never knew about all veggies!☹ But so far my garden is doing well.🤷🏼‍♀

@ashdav9980

2 ай бұрын

I never heard of this either and planted two rows of sunflowers this year by my eggplant and tomatoes. I thought I was helping the pollinators and providing something pretty to see in the garden. Geez….now I will be watching to see if it has any effect.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Keep an eye on them and keep us posted!

Good info, Patrick! I have mine near my raised garden beds but they’re on the ground. That shouldn’t affect my veggie plants right? It didn’t last year. I do have nasturtiums, dill, and marigolds growing near/around it and they seem fine for now. Good to know about it being by the garlic though!!!

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Not too sure. I am hoping that the difference from the raised bed and the ground should not affect your veggies! Thanks for watching! I love your channel too! Everyone go check out @gardendreamsdiyschemes for some great content!😀

@petergraves9006

2 ай бұрын

I got some parsley spinach and cilantro growing next to some it’s been a few weeks no problem yet veggies are young sunflowers are in full bloom veggies are green and healthy though for now

Thanks for this clip. I had about 20 small sunflower seeds that I was going to sow in amongst ny peppers to attract pollinators. Now I'll find something else.

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Good idea - just to be on the safe side! Thanks for watching!

Hmmm...I plant sunflowers less than a foot away from my tomatoes every year. An old gardener taught me this. They provide shade when it is getti g really hot out. As I am writing this I have a sunflower planted directly in front of every tomato plant. The tomatoes are already covered in blooms and even have baby tomatoes on them. The dunflowers are about 5 foot tall. I do this every year and have never had an issue.

Good information, but for future reference: "Aliopathic"?. Doesn't exist.. Don't mean to sound snide or overly critical.. I did this before, and when someone called me out on it in front of a group of people it was embarrassing.. Thought I'd share this with you, so you don't have that happen to you. Allopathic: a system of medicine that aims to combat disease by using remedies (such as drugs or surgery) which produce effects different from or incompatible with those of the disease being treated. Allelopathy [the one you're referring to] is a biological phenomenon by which an organism produces one or more biochemicals that influence the germination, growth, survival, and reproduction of other organisms.

They are big feeders.

I got potatoes in grow bags and want to plant Mammoth Sunflowers behind them, in the ground, about three feet. Does the distance even matter if they are in a bag?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

I can’t say for sure but I would think that in separate containers it would be fine! Happy Gardening!

Didn't knew it was allopathic, just that the roots get everywhere. I read it's added to Three Sister gardens, as sacrificial crop. So does that mean beans, corn and squash are unaffected?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

Ай бұрын

Not totally sure. Others have had different experiances.

Well well well...I suspected this...and also I'm suspecting if u grew them in an area and they flowered...and set seed...that area won't grow a lot of other flowers...I suspect this because of pot grown ones..I have about 10 large pots that I have tried to grow larkspur daisy rudebeckia transplants and all died but NATIVE sunflowers sprouted like MAD..WHOCH I HAD IN THERE LAST YEAR..

My sunchokes (Jerusalem artichokes) are next to my wild garlic. Does what you say about sunflowers apply to sunchokes, too? Oh dear. Sunchokes are supposed to be a kind of sunflowers, right?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

Ай бұрын

Not sure. I would wait and see... I did not think that Sunflowers would have affected my garlic either.

I have sunflowers coming up in my lettuce box ~ should I remove them?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

Experiment... Let one grow and see what happens. Let us know.

The seeds of sunflowers grow in a Fibonacci pattern.

Do you think it would be safe to plant them in a planter? Would I need to put the pot away from my vegetable plants? Does it seem to be only when the sunflower is planted directly in the same soil as my vegetables? Boy, bet you weren't ready for all of this lol. Thanks for the warning and have a good day. I'll try to grow in a pot separately and let you know ok?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

I actually took that plant in the video and put it in a pot in another spot in my patio just to be safe! Thanks for watching!

How far away from your other plants and vegetables should you plant sunflowers then?

@inthegardenwithpatrick6247

2 ай бұрын

For me at least 5 feet.

@charmc4152

2 ай бұрын

@@inthegardenwithpatrick6247 Thank you! 🙂

Lol sunflowers are just like Amazon or Walmart xD any competition gets destroyed so that the sunflower can consume whatever the competition was consuming.

💉hint

Natives weren't here 3000 BC, Nice Try, But the Nephilim were...

@hotrodandrube9119

2 ай бұрын

Do research.

@mcclaynjazmyn9845

2 ай бұрын

@@hotrodandrube9119 Preaching to the choir bub, it' why I said what I said and it's the damn truth, NEXT !