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@alexjames5526

3 жыл бұрын

1st comment from a patron lol

@lockpickingparamedic2136

3 жыл бұрын

Could you mirror your Videos on Odysee? I try not to use Google services anymore.

@LP-gn3xn

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, nice there are only three replies. Hey, slightly sociable? Could u heart my comment or reply??? Hehehehehe!

@_Mackan

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, I've got a password manager, ty tho

@looniemoonie5955

3 жыл бұрын

Can someone recommend me a good password manager? There are just too many. Nord Pass, Dashlane etc etc. And all cost money. I'll try this free Dashlane but it's good to have alternative

Mining bitcoin is overrated, lemme mine spotify plays

@Monsizr

3 жыл бұрын

I think spotify plays are more profitable, if not a lot

@Monsizr

3 жыл бұрын

@@AspectNinja Damn. But still, if you got some money, was it profitable?

@therealthatcatstabe360

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao imagine mining spotify playlist This reply sponsored by, uh- Oh no

@hubytuby6308

3 жыл бұрын

*Y* *E* *S* *S* *I* *R*

@4n4Queen

3 жыл бұрын

So the mining on spotify still exist ?

Dark side of spotify is just spotify blasting mcdonalds ads in my ears while im trying to cry to a good song.

@josephjoestar953

3 жыл бұрын

I get quite ads and a lot have hardly any audio, F.

@Mraddy2

3 жыл бұрын

So you're getting something for free and yet complaining? 🤣

@mricarda

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mraddy2 its a joke lmao gtfo n stfu

@ArmiaKhairy

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, Spotify had ads besides its "subscribe to premium" ads ?!

@jiminjams52

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArmiaKhairy yep! Product ads (I’ve gotten for tea and meat lol), artist album/single releases etc

spotify artist here: my single “persephone” has 30k plays and I’ve earned about $10 total. it’s been out for 2 years now. spotify doesn’t give a shit about independent artists lmao

@donkerbot

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty good, considering. As an independent artist ourselves, with music on Spotify, we barely get any listeners.

@TheGreatCallumOf

2 жыл бұрын

unrelated but i just listened to it and i love it ur rly underrated :,)

@itsmefm

2 жыл бұрын

That's so trash! You should get your fair share too Smh this is why we say eat the rich

@ikkajchan

2 жыл бұрын

Gonna stream 🤍

@R4TAT4T

2 жыл бұрын

That really sucks to be real :/ but I just listened to your song and I really like it! I’ll listen to some other songs of yours :)

The dark side of spotify is the fact that theyre giving you a free "30 minutes" after about 10 minutes of listening to ads. The 30 minutes is closer to 15

@irokosalei5133

2 жыл бұрын

Dude gets free music without paying the artist and complains it's not enough. The entitlement of whiny consumers is off the roof

@MagnumLoadedTractor

2 жыл бұрын

@@irokosalei5133 but you gotta agree that needing premium to make a fucking playlist Is bad

@someguyinazoo

Жыл бұрын

@@irokosalei5133 I know he’s so whiny about those 5 minute long ads for 3 minute long so *SO FUCKING WHINY, HE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE ADS. THAT POOR WHINY BITCH. JUST BE RICH LIKE I AM WITH MY ANIME PROFILE PIC YOU POOR FUCK.*

@johnattincan4190

Жыл бұрын

@@MagnumLoadedTractor you don't need premium for that 💀 that's literally the entire app

@FrodoBeBaggin

11 ай бұрын

30 minus 10 is now 15? This is that new math huh 😂

So in summary, Piracy bad, because it steals from the artist, but when the artists steal from other artists en masse, it is just business and entirely cool and good.

@pvic6959

3 жыл бұрын

with recent situations, all i have learned is the rich can steal from the rich, the rich can steal from the poor, the poor cant do anything

@jellydamgood

3 жыл бұрын

@@pvic6959 A sad truth, that.

@JollyJuiice

3 жыл бұрын

@@pvic6959 But then the poor said: "We like the stock"

@lilshiny

3 жыл бұрын

@@JollyJuiice we like the stock

@deadlyrobot5179

3 жыл бұрын

As an artist I rather my work being pirated than being farmed for money so rich people can have more.

I feel bad for the lady who voices the ads because she managed to make 320 million people want to gouge her eyes out with their thumbs

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

this

@Bandajify

3 жыл бұрын

180M, the rest pays subscription

@diegvo

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanahbis3236 I thought it was just 320 million active users total, no matter if you’re paying or not

@AtaIarion

3 жыл бұрын

More like 20 million. Rest is bots

@kanahbis3236

3 жыл бұрын

@@AtaIarion bruh tf do u mean 140 million people alone pay for it

This makes me feel good about being a dinosaur who still uses legit MP3 files. Thank god for the VCR setting precedent that you can convert media between formats for personal use.

@--.._

2 жыл бұрын

listening offline also doesn't take too much wifi data, but yeah space can be an issue

@coompiler9029

2 жыл бұрын

This is the way

@motojunkie8348

2 жыл бұрын

I'm the same way. I download everything and play it through vlc on my phone or put it on a sd card I leave in my cars radio. I don't use any streaming music service outside of KZread but I don't even use KZread for any music really.

@wellwell5483

2 жыл бұрын

Get flac or other lossless. You can always downgrade to lossy, but never upgrade to lossless

@simonghoul3602

2 жыл бұрын

_(lossless is not compatible in some mobile devices and apps, it may also cause fear of light, lungs that live, talking asparagus, and incompetent sexual performance under stress. Viewer discretion is advice)_

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench - a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs... There’s also a negative side..." Hunter S. Thompson

@J2D2S2

3 жыл бұрын

classic

@CS-mo7xp

3 жыл бұрын

you could remove "The music" from that quote...

@briancrawford8751

2 жыл бұрын

The writing style made it pretty obvious who wrote that.

"The Dark Side of Spotify?" You mean besides the fact that they love to blow out my eardrums with their ads?

@headcrabn5347

3 жыл бұрын

free ukulele jingle plays "BUY SPOTIFY PREMIUM YOU CHEAP FUCK AAAAAAAAAAA"

@zihn

3 жыл бұрын

Spotify premium where it’s at 💪

@iMac9991

3 жыл бұрын

I've had the student discount since 2019, such a blessing of a deal

@Caspitein

3 жыл бұрын

Protip: Use Ublock Origin with Spotify in your browser to get rid of ads

@HGAMES69

3 жыл бұрын

Modded android apks are the real deal tbh.

I swear to fucking god every time I watch a Barely Sociable/Slightly Sociable video, I'm immediately overwhelmed with the urge to become a criminal.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Just be a good one that cares for the people ☠ ☠ ☠

@AshHeaven

3 жыл бұрын

XD Why

@SlyHikari03

3 жыл бұрын

I wanna be a good criminal. What ever those are called

@wizzotizzo

3 жыл бұрын

@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ No u

@yegorgribenuke6853

3 жыл бұрын

The system is just built to fit the criminal.

I think it's funny how people recorded them selves basically committing fraud

@covidnineteen4304

2 жыл бұрын

Most criminals can not keep quiet about what they do, they are too proud of themselves. But you are right, and why would they want to let others know the scheme?

@dylanc2806

2 жыл бұрын

@@covidnineteen4304 its not a crime, its definitely wrong and liable for a lawsuit but theres a difference between criminal offenses (stealing a car) and civil offenses (breaking TOS)

@dylanc2806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah lol they are definitely liable to get banned but eh its not a criminal offense. its wrong of course but not criminal

@whiteoutgotu

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure every ad on KZread is exactly that.

I was wondering why Spotify Tech Support makes you create a new account as a solution to every basic technical issue you have with the platform. It all makes sense now.

@iara3655

2 жыл бұрын

omg i was thinking exactly the same thing, i wondered why the new lyrics feature didn't work out on my phone anymore and the solution was... creating a new account ???

After watching this? Honestly, Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" is the only video that i can believe has 800m legit views.

@maxwell9561

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've been wondering how one of the internet's most iconic music videos has significantly fewer views than random pop hits

@tytracknctzens4953

3 жыл бұрын

How about those kids videos? Baby shark, Cocomelon or Masha and Bear? Kids would mindlessly watch a single video for an entire day tho.

@tytracknctzens4953

3 жыл бұрын

And KZread changed their policies on how a video increases its view count. A person should watch at least 30 seconds of a video to increase its view count. KZread also won’t verify your view if you spam comments in a video. There are also theories that you can only increase the view count by 5 times in a single day in a single account.

@yxyz8150

3 жыл бұрын

Prolly why yt trending, music especially suck

@EYEGAIN

3 жыл бұрын

@@richcitizen I couldn’t even see the fucking link because I accidentally touched it after scrolling, so good on you.

Nice to see you got a sponsor before Barely Sociable, I always hated that dude 😔

@TheJ0kerr

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOOO

@nefwaenre

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment ever! ♥

@tanjamarie6807

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂👌

@simplepointstudio6210

3 жыл бұрын

hE's ThE sAmE pErSoN!

@TheJ0kerr

3 жыл бұрын

@@simplepointstudio6210 NO WAY WTF? HOW CAN THAT BE? THEY BARLEY SOUND A LIKE...wait...barley, BARLEY 🤯

My heart goes out to genuinely good artists that have like 200 monthly listeners and make better music than these plastic "top" artists.

@felix-gena6595

2 жыл бұрын

This

@sassannero6087

2 жыл бұрын

So indie

@victormunoz3931

2 жыл бұрын

Fine, but... are you sure they exist? 🤔

@Atom-E.B.E.

2 жыл бұрын

Man I write music and I gave up making money a long time ago, I just want people to hear it in case they like it but of course that's hardly possible. I get like 50 plays in a year :/

@justinhamiltonn

2 жыл бұрын

@@victormunoz3931 Bro I can literally send you a mile long list of them

They've really made a perfect little paradise for themselves. It's an infinite money maker, the artists that make the music get peanuts, yet they're forced to participate to have a chance of relevance. Ek and his cronies, as well as other scam artists, easily manipulate the system to siphon out money and the artists suffer for it. What this essentially does, is homogenizing music to an extreme. Fringe artists will forever be relegated to obscurity, while music devolves into a lowest common denominator system. These fringe artists can get millions of streams, but still can't even dream of living off the payouts (like our band). So, interesting artists that are trying to do something new, will not stick around as they can't earn a living off it. We are spiraling towards an age of muzak. And how would you even convince regular people that a scam of this magnitude is happening? And would they really care? From a consumer's viewpoint, Spotify is wonderful. They have all the music in the world readily available. Therein lies the genius of this lie we have been fed. The consumer still gets a great product, so why should they complain? It's left to us fringe artists, we're the ones who keep speaking up, but since we've been so systematically and effectively set aside--who will listen? But thank you, Slightly Sociable, for highlighting the issue! I don't know if we'll ever get out of this, for a lack of a better word--prison--but videos like this help an enormous amount.

@the11382

2 жыл бұрын

Considering most of the music industry is filled with terrible people exploiting each other in the worst ways, then complaining how others exploit them, I have no sympathy for it.

@the11382

2 жыл бұрын

I would love for music to be better, but instead any fringe artist getting popular becomes homogeneous by stabbing the original fans in the back.

@the11382

2 жыл бұрын

There are too many artists, this could become the music version of the video game crash of 1983. Nobody focuses on quality anymore, everyone gets flooded with terrible music that’s artificially pushed. The giant music labels could pull the nintendo tactic: A streaming platform containing only high quality songs preserved by the seal of quality. They have more than enough money, so why not?

@RainCloudVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@the11382 Music is a lot more subjective than video games. What sounds like nauseating ice picks in to your ears sounds like heaven to others. Video games while having subjective qualities, are overall objective on whether they are good or not. Super Mario bros is a good game, whether you like platformers or not. E.T will always be a terrible game.

@the11382

2 жыл бұрын

@@RainCloudVideos Subjective is irrelevant with enough determinism.

Totally goofed on my math at 3:22 it's divided by 3 not 4... Making it an avg of €12.06 per month. Still really bad.

@Kuki_ogl

3 жыл бұрын

So you are the guy Slightly Sociable is paying to make all research for him. I knew he wasn’t so smart to make such great videos himself. Hope he is paying you well.

@BarelySociable

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kuki_ogl paid? he keeps me locked in the basement

@chloskyskies4399

3 жыл бұрын

@@BarelySociable you got WiFi down there at least?

@LisethH

3 жыл бұрын

@@chloskyskies4399 probably not, he did take almost an hour to reply 😔

@NerdismOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

I mean that's like $10000000000000000000000 so it's not too bad

Bought spotify premium 20 minutes ago and got this video into my recommandations...

@lolitsjimmy

3 жыл бұрын

Their listening...

@tobiasa9071

3 жыл бұрын

@@lolitsjimmy the phones do listen, it's a feature. You can cancel it if you want to

@KiranKumarBokkesam

3 жыл бұрын

There's something phishy going on here 🤔

@itzameh2233

3 жыл бұрын

Spooky

@olpizl

3 жыл бұрын

@@tobiasa9071 No, you can’t.

Spotify says u can’t pay for placement on playlists but people in the music industry speak openly about a large portion of their budgets going towards playlisting

I was ready for some spooky internet ghost story and instead got a sad dose of capitalism

@deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee6925

2 жыл бұрын

Ik I’m late but I would like to point out that “capitalism” isn’t the ultimate culprit here, as with any economic system abuse is bound to happen. Ultimately it’s the greed of these people that cause these problems.

@cloudthief8918

2 жыл бұрын

@@deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee6925 except these problems are inherent to capitalism, and by changing the social and economic system you could fix them.

@josephbrennan370

2 жыл бұрын

@@cloudthief8918 what is the solution? I think about a new system daily but I reach no sure solution.

@bloodyglitch1777

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephbrennan370 doubt he has one

@bloodyglitch1777

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariellegomez5089 Solution. Give one.

For those who don't know, Barely Sociable used to be a Soundcloud rapper.

@thebadwolf3088

3 жыл бұрын

Listen for the sirens They don't got none

@tradinwarstoriez5641

3 жыл бұрын

I figured a failure

@windowsxseven

3 жыл бұрын

@@tradinwarstoriez5641 yep

@tjl2836

3 жыл бұрын

soundcloud > Spotify

@rgbmew

3 жыл бұрын

@@tjl2836 Bandcamp > Soundcloud > Spotify

I wonder if having over 500 songs on my playlist but always hearing the same approximately 10% of them while on shuffle is connected to this sort of thing

@ipokemom2968

3 жыл бұрын

It’s made me stop listening to my own playlist because it keeps playing the same song even though I have over 700 in mine.

@sketstropp

3 жыл бұрын

interesting! i was thinking of this as well

@delksbwg3777

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh the same thing happens to my offline library of music that I listen on a player, which has around 450 songs but I only end up listening to the same ones when on shuffle, might be more about how "random" algorithms work more than anything that slimy

@Emkito

3 жыл бұрын

i've got over 1,600 songs in my liked playlist and whenever i hear a song i haven't heard in like a year or two it always surprises me because it's so rare. i wouldn't be using spotify if i didn't have limited internet since i can listen offline

@_callum__wallum_3642

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr its weird i have 100 songs but it not only plays mainly just mf doom songs but when i go to the reccomended songs tab its just more mf doom

I find it quite funny that Spotify makes more money off free users than the ones paying $9.99 a month

As someone who only listens to mp3s downloaded off the internet its scares me to think how much people can do with spotify

@ambiarock590

4 ай бұрын

I used to resort to this method before I had a job, and have since gone the route of paying for streaming services (first Apple Music then Spotify). I have since returned to my MP3 ways, mainly so I can listen on iPods (I thank Dank Pods for this) as well as having full control of my music library. I can control what I want on my devices and if I want it to stay in my library. We are going through a big issue with content ownership right now because of the big companies wanting to take away your ownership of your content so you just have to keep renting from them forever. MP3s and CDs are a great way to combat this. Also I have supported my favorite artists way more from going to one show, and buying a shirt than listening to them on streaming services, even if you pirate music.

Spotify's CEO, Daniel Ek, recently bought himself a new palace in Sweden for about 60 million USD, and is planning to upgrade it for another 12 million USD. He must be doing alright.

@superbanana3398

3 жыл бұрын

And he also recently was serious about buying Arsenal football club for 1.8bn pounds soooooooo....

@auliamate

3 жыл бұрын

@@superbanana3398 Roblox FPS game football club? That's worth it IMO /s

@AtemiRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, I would assume so considering he is the CEO of one of the largest streaming services in the world.

@auliamate

3 жыл бұрын

@@cianroach I am kidding. I am referencing a Roblox FPS game called Arsenal. I noticed the shared name and make a joke on it.

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

3 жыл бұрын

Nabael, right. But the existence of such wealth disparity is a sign the world is f'ed up and THAT IS POINT. They do not come by it honestly. It's nepotism.

The music industry is heinous to it's artists and employees. The recent massive move toward independent music production (largely due to accessibility of affordable products to produce from home) is likely to be the best thing to happen for artists as a whole in a very, very long time.

@gavrochethenardier957

3 жыл бұрын

@LastName Almaember but what does your English textbook have to do with the music industry?

@nanav8691

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavrochethenardier957 Likely music industry propaganda in their English textbook; not where you'd expect it tbh

@kianna270

3 жыл бұрын

true like russ is rich as fuckkk and successful as fuck and he’s independent. i think he only signed a distribution deal for an album. most of ur fav artists aren’t as rich as they seem, they’re basically living on borrowed money from their label until they make enough to pay it back. it’s crazy HOW much the labels take from artists, but I understand the appeal of management, promotion, etc.

@blacktoothfox677

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@ArtistontheBorder

3 жыл бұрын

Noy as long as you industry still controls yhe market

You cracked the whole damn music industry in a 30 min video you are truly a genius bro for real I love your content I learn so damn much!

This is why it's important, as a metalhead, to go to shows, buy merch and buy physical media. I want my money going to the artists that power my life.

@garpodow

10 ай бұрын

🤘

@Luckimee

8 ай бұрын

Amen brother

@ambiarock590

4 ай бұрын

Hell yea brother! I cherish my CD collection, and I've gone to some shows of my favorite artists. They have gotten way more money from me from going to one show, buying a few CDs, and a TShirt then every stream that I've listened to from them.

Didn't realize how dystopian this actually was

@sambutton8494

3 жыл бұрын

Capitalism baby

@zainiikhwan9405

3 жыл бұрын

Big Brother is always watching us

@psmstr

3 жыл бұрын

@Sam Button Crony capitalism

@sambutton8494

3 жыл бұрын

@@psmstr “not real communism”

@sandshark2

3 жыл бұрын

@@sambutton8494 well in capitalism the consumer is supposed to judge whether a business practice is okay to pay for. In this case no one cares because Spotify is a little more convenient. If the consumer has no power over the profit of a company, it’s not capitalism anymore. AKA capitalism would fix this issue if people did their job as a consumer

Now I can feel crippling guilt every time I listen to peaceful piano. :D

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

what a wonderful world

@Xylkamela4ter

3 жыл бұрын

Use tidal then

@blazer6248

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a personal problem to me 🤷‍♂️

@Shadow-uc4is

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xylkamela4ter Spotify is the only music app on the ps4

@shhs1227

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shadow-uc4is lol no. you can stream music through youtube on the ps4.

Holy shit i dont want to be a musician in the modern age. Give me a time machine or just lobotomize me

THE DARK SIDE OF SPOTIFY IS THE FACT THAT I CAN ONLY PLAY ALBUMS ON SHUFFLE AND IF THERES ONE SONG IT WILL SHUFFLE IT UP WITH OTHER SONGS TO MAKE AN ALBUM! YOU CANT CHIOSE A SINGLE SONG IN AN ALBUM!

@ZacSpeaks

2 жыл бұрын

buy premium

@JGT-yd2wx

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZacSpeaks okay MR.rich, MR. i can feed a faimly of 9 and can afford 2 college educations and i choose to spend it on spotify premium.

@ZacSpeaks

2 жыл бұрын

@@JGT-yd2wx I’m a very poor

@darknesskingsized8996

2 жыл бұрын

@@JGT-yd2wx Lmao quit your bitching, bro. It's like $10 a month. If you're so hard pressed for $10, maybe you should sell whatever device you're using and focus on your career. Deal with the shuffle or use your brain and look for something better.

@wolfetteplays8894

2 жыл бұрын

@@darknesskingsized8996 exactly

Hooooolleeee SHIT. I just realised my KZread account was part of a botnet about 2 years ago. I kept seeing pop music videos in my history, so I asked my mother and sister if maybe I left myself logged in on their devices. I promptly changed my password when they said no. Thank fuck that's the only thing they did with it!!!

@dfgfdgdfgfdg2902

3 жыл бұрын

your google and gmail account could be hacked too, as they are linked. I'd change the password for them as well

@phrax6767

3 жыл бұрын

Just 2 months ago I was finding that my Spotify listened to was a bunch of random obscure shit music. I eventually caught it taking place and kept changing the song. I then changed my password. They haven’t been back since.

@zad_rasera

3 жыл бұрын

HOLY CRAP. This happened to me, too. I thought it was just because I forgot to log out of my account somewhere/ Suddenly, I've been seeing a lot Pop artists like Ariana Grande appearing on my feed. (I mainly listen to metal at that time.) I think it was about 2-3 years ago, too.

@alouisschafer7212

3 жыл бұрын

the entire fucking internet is a botnet at this point There are ways to stay safe. Most importantly change your passwords in regular intervals and use different emails addresses for different accounts. Make 100% sure your individual accounts are not liked to each other whatsoever. Stay as anonymous as possible. If a a data breach takes place it will compromise one account and one email and not take you out completely. NEVER save passwords anywhere. Write them up on paper instead. The list goes on.

@DerickMasai

3 жыл бұрын

@@dfgfdgdfgfdg2902 When changing a Google services password you change it for all services being used by that account under the Google umbrella. Even if you changed the password for Gmail when you came to YT it would tell you to log in again

Not gonna lie... As an artist this was very discouraging.

@michaelvalverde879

3 жыл бұрын

☹️

@alanp1336

3 жыл бұрын

But have artists ever worked hard

@dounia4207

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanp1336 huh?

@quatricise

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanp1336 Yes, most of them do.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanp1336 You have no idea. Alot of the work their ever loving asses off. I've always been a damn good musician but Im way to Huck Finn to work that hard kzread.info/dash/bejne/m2d9286SoaWrgNY.html

This is truly heartbreaking for me. I have always wanted to make music and just make enough to cater for my basic needs. I never got a chance to learn music so I self-taught for sometime until I have reached a place where I'm able to create. Now, I feel like I've played myself and my dream isn't genuinely and truly achievable. I guess I could give up on this really smh

@akiaraquinn

11 ай бұрын

Relatable 😢

It’s crazy to think that Apple Music is more viable alternative, especially considering they are Bodley known for taking massive cuts for anything that goes trough their services.

@_733t

2 жыл бұрын

We've had about £150 in a 4 year span and it definitely wasn't from Spotify.. so I can only assume it's apple. Our distribution is handled by our label owner though so we've never seen a breakdown.

@dylanc2806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah they get a lot of backlash with the app store and its cut. spotify has the same cut too, they just put WAY less money in to be cut in the first place

I must not become a criminal. I must not become a criminal. I must not become a criminal.

@ametisladyy

3 жыл бұрын

Go ahead, pirate the shit out of it, TORTURE AND BURN THE RICH ALIVE

@Simon-xi7lb

3 жыл бұрын

YAR HAR FIDDLE DEE DEE

@KangJangkrik

3 жыл бұрын

@@ametisladyy more like burning artists alive

@ametisladyy

3 жыл бұрын

@@KangJangkrik if you have the money go to bandcamp, Spotify is the one hurting them Geesh anti piracy bootlicker

@duccline

3 жыл бұрын

Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ Ｃｒｉｍｉｎａｌ

Me: * still buys physical versions of albums * The Industry: :O

@psmstr

3 жыл бұрын

CDs and vinyls did nothing wrong

@TheRealMattKronik

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck yeah! Buy em used to really subvert the market

@debbido8801

3 жыл бұрын

0:

@tayzatun6351

3 жыл бұрын

Me:..bandcamp

@gooball2005

3 жыл бұрын

your memes are as old as your music media

This whole thing is the first plausible explanation I’ve seen for why the popular art - specifically music - is so terrible.

*Spotify logo fades into color negative* Me: “AHHH” You know if they add a color negative fade it’s a serious topic and is the most dangerous secret known to man

The Britney Spears toxic views were all me. I was young and free.

@jinxy7869

3 жыл бұрын

ok

@malachipg7576

2 жыл бұрын

ok

@kutaiva69

2 жыл бұрын

ok

@davidottley2739

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@darrens_toyhouse

2 жыл бұрын

ok

Meanwhile: bandcamp saving the music industry one mp3 and cassette at a time.

@TheChannelZS

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the reason Bandcamp is the best. You can buy the songs outright if you want, pay what you like, and a very large portion of the money goes to the artists (85-90%). If your favorite artists are on Bandcamp and on Spotify, please use Bandcamp to support them. A little goes a long way.

@cynical8330

3 жыл бұрын

My entire legit digital music library is on bandcamp. I love that I get flac audio for listening on my PC and any music I haven't bought yet is just because I'm broke rn. Plus I can snag good quality vinyl off bandcamp all the time too. It's really upsetting when an artist isn't on bandcamp at all.

@alonedownthere47

3 жыл бұрын

@Hannah go listen to Nnamdi and then give him money, he's great

@Mr.Marbles

3 жыл бұрын

Also they have interesting articles where you can find some new cool music. Never would have thought id buy turkish jazz or african rock but here we go! Also you can listen to it a few times before you buy and you can also stream it after which is great for listening at work and stuff.

@MrGreenAKAguci00

3 жыл бұрын

FLAC or WAV, please, please it's worth it. Really. Also Tidal seems fine. Thank you for your attention.

The French Montana situation is even more interesting when you consider that the same song made its way into NFS Heat after it had already flopped, and around the same time it was in that game it got a ton of inflated streams exclusively on Spotify. It makes me wonder just how many other recent games with licensed soundtracks have had something similar. Other songs that were in NFS Heat didn’t seem to have that same thing happen, however there was an instrumental of a song that wasn’t even released until months after Heat came out which is a bit weird but not unheard of.

I was 10 when vevo came out and loved music videos, I noticed the same thing about the views/lack of engagement as well as HUGE community backlash. great video as always. you inspire me in my own research.

”if I was the only glassmaker in town, I’d send the local boys at night to break all the windows”

@HGAMES69

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh your pfp is creepy dunno why.

@zad_rasera

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get this quote? Google search reveals nothing.

@Wickow

3 жыл бұрын

@@zad_rasera I got it from My friend, it’s his own original saying, surrounding the subject of capitalism.

@MyScreenNameIsTroubledOne

3 жыл бұрын

wichael wise nah that’s from a movie. I’m tryin to remember which movie but I know I’ve heard it before. It was some kind of old gangster movie I think.

@MyScreenNameIsTroubledOne

3 жыл бұрын

wichael wise the only thing I can find at the moment is a wiki page for The Kid. A Charlie Chaplin movie. But I know I’ve heard that line before in a movie.

I thought this was gonna be about weird songs on Spotify.

@gangstapenguin7877

3 жыл бұрын

Same. We got something like an underground crime syndicate instead

@thewestsideducks

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@k.morningstar7983

3 жыл бұрын

...what kind of weird music?

@thewestsideducks

3 жыл бұрын

@@k.morningstar7983 Just like weird German Indie or something lol

As someone who has seen the dark side, Spotify isn’t the only platform that has bots, Napster, Tidal, Apple Music, SoundCloud, Pandora, YT, all get inflated with artificial streams for profit. And the phone farming is small compared to the scales bots stream. The platforms do updates to prevent this, but just like sneaker botting, newer versions of bots come out with a fix.

You should've gotten Pandora to sponsor this one that would've been hilarious

As a life long musician I've come to the realization that I've been doing it all wrong. I could've been farming for the last decade or so, damn you integrity.

@shadetreader

3 жыл бұрын

Same with visual art... I should've put myself in debt to get a degree and pretend to be from NYC so gallerists would actually show my work. Instead I've naively focused on actually making art. 🤷‍♀️

@itsdazing1279

2 жыл бұрын

B

@almightyminataur4000

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadetreader is going to art school worth it

@rumble1925

10 ай бұрын

That's how each and every one of these platforms are like. You become a top creator by gaming the algorithms so it pushes you above the fold and out to real people. All you have to do is be good enough to appeal to people once you reach visibility, you don't have to actually be the best, smartest or most creative.

The worst part about this is that they can keep getting away with it unless the consumer stops paying tor the service which we know isn’t happening since people like convenience over all else

@caoilfhionndunbar

3 жыл бұрын

this stopped me from using spotify, Im gonna go back to being a pirate from now on.

@billyshakespeare488

3 жыл бұрын

@@caoilfhionndunbar use bandcamp and give actual money to the artists you enjoy. you are just as bad as spotify when you pirate.

@jessip8654

3 жыл бұрын

The other alternative is that the government(s) step in, but we all know how people feel about ReGuLaTiOn! Plus I doubt anyone over 45 really understands what the issue is.

@romangiertych5198

3 жыл бұрын

@@phoenix0547 sounds good to me.

@DetectiveMekova

3 жыл бұрын

KZread premium isn't a terrible alternative either. I'm sure there are exploiters doing it on here as well but since there are a lot more ways to secure and protect your account its not as big of a risk. Also bandcamp is great.

zoomers: support indian botfarms and corporations by using spotify me, a based boomer: still use youtubetomp3 converter

@bingus.boingus

3 жыл бұрын

Me, a gen-z kid: Yes, MP3Juices, my dearest friend.

@pappo666

3 жыл бұрын

i dont know / remember what zoomer and boomer means but i mainly listen to music via CD and Vinyl and when i am on the PC i pretty much only listen to Flac i have spotify when out and about tho mp3 is absolute garbage sound quality and to be honest so is spotify

@slayerficated

3 жыл бұрын

@@pappo666 What are some differences that you notice between a cd version of a song, a 320kbps mp3 and the spotify version?

@pappo666

3 жыл бұрын

@@slayerficated Totally depends on the recording if the mixing / mastering is crap then it wont matter really. as an example almost everything that was recorded in the 90s and early 00 is bad due to the "loudness wars" and compression look at it like this take a song that was compressed during mastering b4 going to CD, then someone ripp it to MP3, and compress it even further and then upload it to youtube that is a 3rd layer of compression result is not good so to answer you're question the main difference is soundstage, depth, Dynamic Range, and to me soundstage and Dynamic Range is most important but the more you compress the more you loose on all of these things. CD / Flac beats everything when it comes to these things yes i also have a MQA/ Tidal setup but to me Flac sounds better then MQA / Tidal some tracks sounds better on tidal with MQA but it is not enough to warrant the price tag it came with That is why many say that Phonograph's are the best way to listen to music because there is no alteration to the playback it is what they recorded and from that view they are correct but sound quality on those is crap xD *Edit* i should mention how compression work it basically compress all instruments and vocals so they are at same volume then they add Loudness to make it louder this is why it ruins Dynamic Range since it all is at same levels there is no dynamic 320kbps MP3 vs Spotify alone then spotify wins due to the compression MP3 adds but ogg vorbis that spotify use also compress the music but in a much "smarter" way but it is not MUCH better still beats MP3. CD vs Spotify CD wins hands down if there is no added compression and it is mixed with sound quality in mind and no added Loudness there is just nothing that will beat it as of now and since most artists still record for 16bit 44.1 only thing Tidal do is upsample to give you a placebo effect but when people start recording in 24 / 32 bit things will change drasticly but they wont do that until people start to care about audio

@slayerficated

3 жыл бұрын

​@@pappo666 I appreciate your well written reply. I asked because i'm skeptical on some level of audiophilia. One thing I'm yet to fully grasp is sound stage. I know that it means to be able to point out where things are physically placed in the mix, but I struggle to hear the difference in that regard between an mp3 and a lossless format. I would also like to mention that digital compression and audio compression are totally different things, and that digital compression usually doesn't effect the level difference between the quite and loud things. Have you ever blind A B X tested a song in different formats? My skepticism is based on the idea that the difference in quality is largely psychological, so I'd love to hear someone point out that in a particular frequency range a particular thing changed, or that a particular instrument now lacks a a particular quality, so that I can listen with sort of something to point my ears at. Thanks again, most people on youtube don't seem to care enough to actually think about what they're going to say, so reading your reply felt like a breath of clean air.

I think this happened to my spotify account once. Somehow when I would log onto my spotify account and look at what I was listening to there was random spanish songs that I had never listened to before in my life. I changed my password and it stopped but in retrospect I think my account was being botted from some kind of password leak with my username.

As Bo Burnham says: “We’ll stop beating this dead horse when it stops spitting out money so until then we will repeat stuff!” -From his song Repeat Stuff

@affewuff

3 жыл бұрын

I see three men of cloture here

@KysEcstacy

3 жыл бұрын

I see 3 men of culture and 1 man of cloture here.

@stsonyas

3 жыл бұрын

i see smart people

@michael2126

3 жыл бұрын

i just shat myself

@smejkoondrejko

3 жыл бұрын

I see a people of culture as well:D

I hate to admit that my Spotify account was hacked about 2 years ago. I was suspicious for a while about it as suddenly my suggested songs (based on things I typically listen to) was of things that I *never* listen to. I typically listen to either 90s hip-hop or 2010s rap. Yet my suggested songs started switching to pop-country. Something I absolutely despise. I've never searched for anything like that, downloaded any songs like that, or would even be insane enough to listen to it. The dead giveaway was one day when I was trying to listen to some music (which was at an odd hour compared to usual). Whoever was hacking into my account decided that was also when they were going to try to play a specific song. It was basically an ear molesting war. I'd play a song, they'd overpower me, I'd overpower them, they'd overpower me, etc. After that day of frustration I had to contact Spotify so I could change both my email and my password. Luckily haven't had a problem since. I also still hate pop-country.

@JGonzZ.

3 жыл бұрын

I found this video where you can find whenever you are the only one in the account or not in Spotify kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZyBrc1qY5CYibQ.html

@zaarifhossaini6467

3 жыл бұрын

@@JGonzZ. i'd rather get rickrolled

@nwut

3 жыл бұрын

@@JGonzZ. oof

@Mr.Marbles

3 жыл бұрын

But dont you want to hear about trucks bear and women 24/7? :(

@eradict

3 жыл бұрын

Just sayin, I'd take Taylor Swift over Vanilla Ice any day.

This was a really important episode, thank you for creating this for us.

Damn this was all new to me

My friend's spotify got hacked and she didn't realize until somebody asked her why she changed her profile picture to an anime character. She was still logged in and they would fight over what songs to listen to from the same album lol

@likira111

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly you gotta play rick astley or cbt.

@Ryan-et3sx

3 жыл бұрын

I also got my account hacked and there was so many playlists being made on my account. Recently, I had my password and email changed so I had to email Spotify about it and they helped greatly. Changed my password to something really strong and nothing has happened as of yet 👍.

@niklasss

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO NO

@big4headedGangster

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the start of a hit romantic anime show. someone make that happen.

@byggrynsgroet

3 жыл бұрын

i also had that happen to me kinda, but they only played weird polish edm. i went to the spotify website and pressed the button to log out on all devices then i changed my password. i havent had a problem with it since!

The New Pornographers made around 4 dollars a year once on Spotify. One of the members mentioned that on Twitter. Divided among their 13 members (past and present) that’s 31 cents per member. They can’t be that unpopular.

I never realized that Spotify was such a vile bucket of spit. I actually feel dirty after watch this. I'll never give Spotify a nickle.

@victoriamorrison5454

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, part of the reason I switched to Apple Music, even ignoring how much more fairly they pay artists, the fact that they have 2 step verification that needs a real phone number linked to a real Apple ID linked to a real device to prevent botting already makes it better

@RealAntek

3 жыл бұрын

Nickel*

@RealAntek

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry

@jackieburkhart3268

3 жыл бұрын

good thing is if you live in a country that doesn't have spotify, like me, you can use spotify free on computer and spotify++ on mobile. if i get automatically logged out for not being in one of their countries, i just use a vpn to log in and then turn off the vpn. it doesn't happen for months tho. i dont pay spotify a single penny, or listen to their ads, because im not in their countries. i win, spotify loses. why dont i use soundcloud instead? because i use discord a lot and soundcloud doesn't show my listening status. its perfect.

@sebsant3467

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I downloaded a free anti add version

spotify was the last app I would have thought to be concerned about

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

@frionx ?

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

@frionx in the general sense

@mercyful22

3 жыл бұрын

the ones that look harmless are usually the worst. this goes for apps too, apparently.

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

@frionx That makes no sense

@Rctdcttecededtef

3 жыл бұрын

@frionx you're choosing to misinterpret my initial comment and assuming I care more than I do. I never explicitly said I was concerned about my own well being and made it clear early on that I meant it generally

love that barely sociable still linked his spotify in the description lmao

@jsmith6629

3 жыл бұрын

Selling out is so trashy! (Unless you’re making mad money off of it, then I’m all in too!)

This video must explain the whole spotify wrapped situations with people. I mean I've had multiple friends post their wrapped and it has songs that they've never even heard.

@ellianayvonne

3 жыл бұрын

SAME OMG IT KEPT SAYING I WAS LISTENING TO CONAN GREY AND STUFF ISTG- I ONLY LISTEN TO TAYLOR SWIFT AND I MEAN THAT LITERALLY--😐

@Madbrad2000

3 жыл бұрын

use a password manager like bitwarden and autognerate a very long password. No one will get into your account then

@scarymsmary

2 жыл бұрын

dude... 😲

They took a stock photo to make a fake artist, then claimed they didn't make fake artists. 🤔

"VEVO"... Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time.

@ArkAwaits

3 жыл бұрын

I like your icon, sv pog

@ObviouslyKieran

3 жыл бұрын

Did you know them?

My Spotify account got hacked 2 years ago to bot listens for Cardi B. It was enough to make Cardi B my top artist of 2019

@ss9392

3 жыл бұрын

@@jager9022 same

@dodi-wankenobi

3 жыл бұрын

Cardi is dope tho xD

@wizzotizzo

3 жыл бұрын

@nitrrogen No.

@EuroMIX2

3 жыл бұрын

That should be considered a hate crime.

@DanX2M

3 жыл бұрын

@nitrrogen I am reporting you for this comment. Too far man, too far.

Mine got hacked too once, every 40 seconds it switched to some creepy, obscure Russian folk music. I don’t remember the artist or title but it was rather unnerving.

@-dusan5726

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, kolya just logged into the wrong account again

@-dusan5726

3 жыл бұрын

@Kayoshie Flametail And who might that be?

@-dusan5726

3 жыл бұрын

@Kayoshie Flametail Indeed you have fiddled the riddle brother

@faye2776

3 жыл бұрын

omf this happened to me too

Spotify is trash, I cancelled my account months ago and sailed back to the high seas.

@aukiio

3 жыл бұрын

Reject Spotify Return to CDs

@miniMEGA29

3 жыл бұрын

There's other music platforms, like deezer, tidal, apple music and youtube music. And more really

@sebastianbenz6829

3 жыл бұрын

@Will how?

@aukiio

3 жыл бұрын

Tidal is actually good for high-res streaming and buying music

@raminaark1147

3 жыл бұрын

@Will educate teach pls

Hooray! Also, for some reason now I can donate to both Barely Sociable and Slightly Sociable. They're great dudes, so gonna donate them both.

@skitskit333

3 жыл бұрын

THEY ARENT THE SAME GUY????

@TheSilentCivillian

3 жыл бұрын

@@skitskit333 of course not, how could you think otherwise?

All of the dislikes are from one streaming farm.

@kat3217

3 жыл бұрын

Extremely underrated comment

@hoseashpm7810

3 жыл бұрын

Exaaactly

being an artist on spotify, my revenue is on average about 10-13$ a month with about 6-10k streams. its a shame but i cant do much else but promote, lose money and hope for more listeners next month.

@boteiro1436

3 жыл бұрын

i don't use Spotify, and i have no idea why im on this video, but i wish you good luck being an artist :D

@jacksonadorjan1775

3 жыл бұрын

@@boteiro1436 its not just spotify, streaming revenue from every platform is terrible for smaller artists if they dont have supplemental income. its a shame there is so much gatekeeping in art

@neiljohnsemaning6227

3 жыл бұрын

Post it here on KZread

@overtoast1105

3 жыл бұрын

I listen to a lot of smaller artists, I'm pissed that you guys get no fucking money

@jacksonadorjan1775

3 жыл бұрын

@@neiljohnsemaning6227 i do but i cant monetize until like 10k subs

That moment when you realise that Apple Music is the lesser of two evils...

@beepst

3 жыл бұрын

I've never seen artists complain about Apple Music so it's probably true...

@psmstr

3 жыл бұрын

Surreal to see Xbox Music having the best payout. Of all things.

@sandshark2

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t tell you how many times people said “Spotify isn’t the evil Apple and is more convenient!” As an Apple Music user, I’m laughing now

@psmstr

3 жыл бұрын

@Sandshark 2 Fair enough, but that just lines you up to have a bunch of articles about Apple employing child labor thrown at you. Glass houses and all. The saddest thing? There’s no real ethical way to obtain music legally aside from buying from artists directly, or at least through Bandcamp.

@OVXX666

3 жыл бұрын

@@beepst artist here to tell you no one complains about apple music because no one uses it

INTERESTING. I did not know about this. I mean, I knew Spotify had its issues and how they’re not necessarily the greatest at giving the artist their fair share for their work but I didn’t know about this type of stuff. Which makes sense because at a certain point I began to wonder why all of these garbage artists were suddenly popping up on top playlists. Now we know how SoundClout artists got to where they are (I’m being facetious). Anyhow, great video Soc!!! 👌🏽👍🏽

@showmetheropes650

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimjimjaroo Like Soc said, I’ll definitely be listening a little differently when using it. I’ll also keep my eye out for this type of stuff.

@SirMalorak

3 жыл бұрын

Radio has been doing the same thing for years: Just take a random artist, claim they're the "new and upcoming new person" and then hype em up with advertisements. That way, you just slam one new artist out of the ground one after another.

@showmetheropes650

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirMalorak That’s true. Though now it’s easier for bad artist to be among those big name and well known artists with these stream farms. What ever happened to being on the hustle and shopping your single or EP around or playing tiny venues to gain a following from the start? Now all you have to do is invest on some old phones and stream your own shit music yourself rather than doing it the respectable way. Of course, it doesn’t help that Spotify and other services turn a blind eye to these things.

@LaikaLycanthrope

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirMalorak Geez, yeah, take a listen to _The Payola Roll Blues, Pt 1_, a comedy record made at the beginning of rock and roll; it addresses this very thing. The record exec literally grabs a guy off the street and promises to make him a star (mostly by poking him with a stick). Very funny, still timely, I guess.

@ricn5494

3 жыл бұрын

yeah this is pretty cringy but the music business as a whole is so shady and sketchy. I mean I buy vinyl so artists are getting something but they're still even with that getting royally screwed.

yo i didn’t even realize this was a big thing, my spotify got hacked and it wouldn’t let me change my songs and it would always switch to between one or two different artists. i ended up making a whole playlist called “whoever is using my spotify please leave” and it was filled with songs like goodbye stranger, i never planned on someone like you, fuck you, and people are crazy. that seemed to work in deterring them, but who knows, maybe they had just gotten all they wanted and bounced 🤷‍♂️

@The_Jazziest_Coffee

2 жыл бұрын

man maybe they were desperate as hell for ppl to listen to their music if so that sucks, both for you and for them edit: i'm an idiot and that person is an asshole

@algirdasltu1389

Жыл бұрын

Lmao communication at its finest

If you wanna support your artist directly, buy a Physical copy from Official store, Buy a merch from official store, Go to a concert him performing, Streams actually doesn't pay them well as we thinks.

@PosthumanHeresy

3 жыл бұрын

Physical copies don't either. This is a false dichotomy: artists have never made their money off of their music. Physical media money goes to the label. Merch and tours are the only options.

@oskarmonk

3 жыл бұрын

I'm an indie artist and physicals are very important. So many formats are active. I can sell cassette all over the world for 5 to 20 dead prez. -BIZZART

@liliapril30

2 жыл бұрын

@@PosthumanHeresy but at least paid all the investment they did and after that is the time to count how much is left for them...

@darknesskingsized8996

2 жыл бұрын

@@oskarmonk Yeah but you're an indie artist, so of course more money would go directly to you. For bands on Universal, Virgin, or Warner Brothers, I can't imagine they get much from the purchasing of their music in any form. In fact, loads of artists signed to big labels have outright said they get their money from merch and shows. Besides that, physical media is dying out. Most laptops and even some tower computers don't have disc drives anymore and stereo players have been replaced by Bluetooth speakers. Vinyl and cassette still have their fans, that's true, but it's a pretty small group that prefers a tape or a record to the hundreds of digital audio formats out there.

i don't wanna be That Person so im sorry if someone already caught this, but at 2:57 you say 98.6% instead of 1.4%! Took me a second to realize the point being made so i thought i'd put it here in case anyone else was confused :')

this need to get exposure, for all of us artists out there getting finessed

@jefferysterner

3 жыл бұрын

Just posted it to my social media. Predictably, comments from gullible people about conspiracy theory and "don't believe everything you hear on the internet" followed sigh.

@TrTriTrippin

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefferysterner you have idiots following you then

@jefferysterner

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrTriTrippin I doubt anybody doesn't. I know a lot of mainstream folks from my hobby.

@josephswale7034

3 жыл бұрын

In an ideal world, what should a music consumer do? Should we move to bandcamp? Should we move to purchasing CDs or digital copies? Interested to know what your take on it is.

@nakelittle

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephswale7034 not sure, but going back to oldschool CD isn't really an option, however this can't continue. Maybe slowly moving to an decentralized platform like audius where eventually payment's more fair towards the artists. artist make around 12% of worldwide musicrevenue, which is a crazy small number to me

Find it lowkey ironic that I watched this video last thursday... And today discovered that my account has been hacked. Lots of "artists" ended up in my followed section. "Recently listened to" was just weird. Playlists and artists and albums that have been released either this year or last. Guess its now a more prominent problem.

@Bollibompa

3 жыл бұрын

Lowkey?

@ArkAwaits

3 жыл бұрын

Got hacked like 2 days ago and the bot was playing a list called tiktok anthems, once its over its really funny

can we all take a minute a appreciate that editing

@BBY_Sitta_

3 жыл бұрын

No

@noir6985

3 жыл бұрын

@@BBY_Sitta_ yes

@nickinportland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The grammar is still meh but improving.

@NightKoneko

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickinportland They probably speak English as a second language OR it was a typo lol

corpse husband (hes an independent musician and youtuber) recently talked about how theres gatekeeping on spotify specifically. He doesnt get put on the spotify playlists bc the label purchases spots on there for their artists, but thats kind of the only way to get more successful. Its so hard to get to the top w/out a label to literally buy you in.

@papasscooperiaworker3649

3 жыл бұрын

Unrelated, but I really want to have a voice like his. I'm halfway there

@mustang8206

3 жыл бұрын

I like how you added that he's an independent musician and KZreadr. You're the kid who says he only listens to underground bands like Metallica. Everyone already knows who Corpse is

@TheDeniseJS

3 жыл бұрын

@@mustang8206 Hi! Don't quite get where you're coming from, just wanted to add context to my statement, since he's not with a label that can buy him spots on spotify playlists and I got the info through him. Have a nice day :)

@firebrand4074

3 жыл бұрын

Eh corpse isn’t the best example for this because he already had a massive fan base before starting music but I get what you mean

@senif684

3 жыл бұрын

@@mustang8206 You sound like the kid that nit picks on everything you can to ruin other people’s days because your life is miserable so you have to make others feel just as miserable as you to make yourself feel a lil better 🥰❣️

Could advertisement companies sue spotify? They are letting their ads play and paying them without anyone actually listening to them

@beactivebehappy9894

3 жыл бұрын

By that logic advertisement companies can even sue KZread, because it provides an option to skip the ad... 😅😅

@milkduds9148

3 жыл бұрын

No, a platform has no obligation to provide clicks or views of the ads they show. Its a risk based investment on the part of the advertiser. Could you imagine if you had to prove you actually saw every single ad when using basically any platform ever? Spotify isn't going anywhere anyway lol

@LRM12o8

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, if they did that, the advertisers would put their entire business to question: "Do you really think anyone buys your products, because you annoy them with your ads?" would be the obvious next question, like a giant elephant in the room. 🤣

Just to give you guys an idea as to how Spotify actually pays for an artist that mostly self releases and only does label releases occasionally. I average 70 - 80 thousand individual listeners per month which bring me around 250 - 300 thousand streams. I earn between 500 - 800 dollars from that.

@baileyschmidt2383

3 жыл бұрын

How did you even get those numbers as a self releasing artist? Not accusing just shocked and curious since Spotify is such an impossible market for small artists especially those of us who haven’t signed the slave contracts provided by labels

@thomaskretzschmar5

3 жыл бұрын

@@baileyschmidt2383 make those numbers too. Its not impossible

@baileyschmidt2383

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomaskretzschmar5 not saying it’s impossible lol I’m literally just asking how they did it and stating that it’s incredibly difficult to achieve that by ones self 😂

@AndrewSouthworth

3 жыл бұрын

@@baileyschmidt2383 There are tens of thousands of independent artists pulling those numbers. Its usually either organic growth through regular content and music releases, promoting through FB / YT advertisements, or promoting through networks and influencers. Personally I use mostly Facebook Ads and thats pushed me up to 122,000 streams in the past 28 days.

@lesbnlime

3 жыл бұрын

clueless wannabe independent artist here, what do i need to do to have my music on these platforms and get paid for it? i’ve done reasearch about it but honestly distributors make me so confused, i dont know what to do or which one to choose.

Oh damn, I always had a hunch that Spotify is suspicious by how they operate, like a little too complicated for just playing music and looks a little too simple for something complicated. I'll just stay with pirated music thanks.

@nottucks

3 жыл бұрын

They managed to make a platform that is worse than piracy how do you fuck up that bad

@araisdead

3 жыл бұрын

@@nottucks I listen to alot of anime ops so Spotify really isn't an option

@ambiarock590

4 ай бұрын

Yarr matey!

People on Twitter so quick to find out their soulmate based on their Spotify playlists meanwhile they’re being farmed 🥸👩‍🌾

My account got hacked and random playlist would start popping up and I was so confused

@beesthathavecheese

3 жыл бұрын

woah how did you get hacked?

@vierzig

3 жыл бұрын

Changing passwords usually fixes the problem. Also make sure you are the only person who has access to your email.

@vierzig

3 жыл бұрын

@@beesthathavecheese I don't know how exactly he got hacked but often people get hacked if they use the same email and password everywhere. So if you do that, you have to change your password.

I actually just found this cool artist on Spotify called Barely Musical! They must be making a lot of money on that platform.

Imagine being one of those Twitter users who were like "Yeah my account got hacked but this shit slaps so I'm gonna keep it this way"

@Xsonic378X

3 жыл бұрын

“Going with the flow” energy

I remember about 2 years ago or so every now and again when I would listen to Spotify the song I was listening to would change to some garbage ambient beat and I was really confused. It would happen for like a month until it stopped and for the longest time I never knew what happened. Now I know...

Over saturation from "artists" more interested in social media presence, views and followers has not only devalued the music indusrty but taken the meaning of being a hard working, talented and/or honest musician and pished it up against the wall. Everybody is now looking for that 30 seconds of fame or the ego trip of statistics. They are more satisfied by the sham exposure of views than the hard work it takes to be good at your craft. For every 1000 views you are lucky if 1 person actually listened to your song never mind enjoyed it. Clicking a love heart emoji does not help, but only further encourages this deluge. Online etiquette now has more say in how an artist is exposed more than any real talent.

@pennyforyourthots

3 жыл бұрын

I would argue that the music industry, and art as a whole, has ALWAYS been this way, we've just forgotten the 40's, 50's, and 60's equivalent of a clout chaser because they didn't do anything memorable, and the problem is far more visible due to social media. Before, the kid with a guitar that he didn't know how to play but pretended he was a musician only annoyed your hometown, but now, its everyone. The problem hasn't gotten worse, its just visible now.

@meangene408

3 жыл бұрын

@@pennyforyourthots Yes but now that kid can make a fortune just because he is annoying. Which then encourages 10,000 more annoying kids. Now I'm not saying annoying trends didn't happen before. There were always novelty songs and pointless trends but now everything has been condensed and is infinitely easier to distribute. That kid you are talking about could never have dreamed of this type of reach. Also, that kid had to buy a guitar, or at least inherit it, but the digital age has made it possible for absolutely anyone to be "annoying" and that's not just involving music. Then we get to the attention span aspect. We are that bombarded by media and "musicians" that most folk don't listen longer 10 seconds. They just click the like button out of habit. Instagram, for example, is enabling folk to live off of minute long bursts. That's not writing a song. That's not being talented. How many more videos of someone sitting with an accoustic guitar, murdering a one hit wonder do we need? This is encouraging folk to be lazy and profit. As long as your video can fit in some adverts you can profit. Not from fans or hard work but from statistics and advertising. These "talent" shows realised this decades ago. They realised CD sales were down, piracy was on the rise so what do they do? They popularise useless talent which costs them next to nothing, create hype and sell you phone call votes. I could go on if you like?

@emhean

3 жыл бұрын

@@meangene408 fuck, this makes me so depressed

@meangene408

3 жыл бұрын

@@emhean Don't be depressed, man. Just be vigilant. If you're a musician then work hard, enjoy it, have fun and send demos to real labels that care about music and not the next big thing. Don't be exploited by sites that make you do all the work but take your money whilst promising a career they can't possibly provide. Sites like Soundcloud etc don't reflect your talent nor your reach. Use them as a place to post ideas and not the final product as there are various ways to steal your music directly from there. And as I say, folk will click "like" on absolutely everything just to be polite so trust your own instinct. don't use social media as a barometer.

So we got on conclusion that Literally every single site have dark side

@holymackerelthethird2478

3 жыл бұрын

It's as if businesses need to make greater profit every quarter to keep investors' stocks valuable, leading to actively damaging practices that cut corners and suck money from the most vulnerable.

@chillsy_pluto

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah welcome to late stage capitalism

Man this makes me want to stop using spotify, but the alternatives are not great either. Also here is some free engagement to hopefully help this video get popular

@ablationer

3 жыл бұрын

You could always just upload music to your phone?

@edolia9130

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablationer isnt that like illegal

@ablationer

3 жыл бұрын

@@edolia9130 To put music that you own onto your phone?

@aseles6202

3 жыл бұрын

@@edolia9130 shhhhh 0_0

@edolia9130

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablationer to put music you dont own lmao

What I’ve learnt is that I should switch to Apple Music. Never thought I’d be thinking that

@GruntKF

3 жыл бұрын

Lol nah support artists directly apple sux balls

This reminds me of the "Payola" sandal from back in the day: labels would pay radio stations to play their artists' songs so they would be bumped up the chart faster, generating consumer interest, generating album sales.

@gavrochethenardier957

3 жыл бұрын

Wait I thought that was normal? Isn't that how it works??

@BallisticaMetal

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavrochethenardier957 You can even pay to destroy other musician's popularity on the chart, not a fair game. This Payola still exists.

@whatabouttheearth

3 жыл бұрын

Payola never actually ended and the mob was and is all up in it. Italian mob still exists too kzread.info/dash/bejne/nK191MOrc7bPZso.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIBhvJqsgMjao7w.html

These are the machines J.Cole was talking about in his verse on “A lot”

@JordansMAG

3 жыл бұрын

Immediately I thought of this track

@MukeshPatel-ei3we

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what i thought

@justanotherwilo2791

3 жыл бұрын

how many faking they streams, getting they plays from machines

@ianparr9950

3 жыл бұрын

@@justanotherwilo2791 I can see behind the smoke and mirrors people ain’t really big as they seem

@shoazdon7000

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianparr9950 I never say anything (Nah), everybody got they thing (True) Some people make millions, other people make memes (Hmm)

Didn't even talk about how Spotify wants to give artists even less per stream if they want an advantage in the algorithm

i switched from spotify to tidal. when I logged back into my spotify about a year later, my listening history was all random meditation music. i wonder if that has anything to do with this

@njfree_

3 жыл бұрын

Can you give some pros and cons of switching to tidal? I'm thinking about switching to it too.

@user-jv4ro9yp7u

3 жыл бұрын

@@njfree_ i mainly just switched because of the hifi audio. i mainly listen to albums but the tidal playlists are really great. it has a lot of exclusive stuff too. cons are it's not nearly as good of an app design as spotify. it can also be glitchy at times. if spotify had hifi audio id still use it, but the hifi just can't be beat

@njfree_

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-jv4ro9yp7u Do you actually hear a difference? I feel like it wouldn't make that much of a difference (I'm also listening at 320kbit/s whenever possible)

@user-jv4ro9yp7u

3 жыл бұрын

@@njfree_ it's not a world changing difference, it just sounds a lot smoother and more pronounced

@richardgurney1844

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-jv4ro9yp7u What - no! I literally cancelled my Spotify account and switched to Tidal BECAUSE I thought the app design was better! I found Spotify a little frustrating after having used Tidal for a couple of months. Honestly my only con with Tidal is that there's less amount of songs than Spotify

Ana Olgica actually changed her picture after your video, It's now a picture of a sculpture in a red and teal colorway. She also has a "Facebook" account now with 40 followers. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Edit : Also, using the wayback machine you can see when the account was created. She already had 2.2 million monthly listeners on her first month.

If I had any doubts on the morality of using a cracked version of Spotify, this video removed them all

@diediedice

2 жыл бұрын

Do you still know where you got that from? ;)

@darknesskingsized8996

2 жыл бұрын

@@diediedice I can link you to one if you're interested. Reply to this if you are and I'll get a link.

@jennifersun2638

2 жыл бұрын

lol right

It's too bad, because I really enjoy using Spotify. I remember when it took hours to download a single song off the internet, and they weren't easy to find.

I feel bad for actually using spotify, i just want to show people my playlist, to see my recommendations, if they like it or not tbh

@crystalsflamez7654

3 жыл бұрын

Same :/

@clarksoderberg6445

3 жыл бұрын

and like i dont want to have to remake all my huge playlists

@e4999

3 жыл бұрын

I feel guilty but it's not like it's our fault, spotify decided for it to be this way and so many other services are similiar to this so it would be so hard to avoid 😔

@expiredtylernol

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t like the other services :((((

@toastymarshmallow5372

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how much it helps, but you can always pirate spotify premium