And, in case people did not know There is another excellent channel called Back to the science.

Prof Greg, as an medical student from Brazil, I greatly admire your efforts to fight against misinformation and bad science. We are on a scientific crisis, but I hope that the new President Elected can turn over the situation and end this nightmare. Thank you so much!

Wow! When Campbell's video came out I did my own feeble investigation into Cureus, and whilst it didn't pass the smell test I couldn't quite put my finger on to something obviously damning, how unobservant I was! It shows how important it is for someone who knows what they are doing, like yourself, to look into these matters. I am blown away at how outrageously corrupt this paper ended up being. Thank you so much once again.

@marcofurgoneta7227

2 жыл бұрын

This video is aimed at discrediting non-pharma research and journals. It is full of falsehoods, glaring bias, comments that are easily answerable and ad hominem attacks unworthy of a so-called man of science. What a scam. What a shame. Follow the science not the money.

@vtbn53

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcofurgoneta7227 You are a complete and utter contemptible fool.

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

LOL. I'm blown away by you DUMMIES who actually think there's anybody NOT corrupt in Big Pharma. LOL. OR any LEFTY REGIME.

@shaneoneill9649

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcofurgoneta7227 maybe you would like to share what those falsehoods and biases are, rather than just making claims without any substance. But most likely we won't here anything of substance from you, because I doubt you have anything.

Thank you Professor Greg! I have viewed most of your videos, however, this is my first comment on your channel. I very much appreciate your thoroughness and step by step breakdown of the information contained in your videos. My husband is in a high risk category for a potentially poor outcome from Covid infection due to a congenital medical condition. We are very health conscious, take protective measures, are extremely pro active about staying up to date on current information and are open to investigation of all treatments. That said, with so much information and misinformation it can be a tad overwhelming at times to digest! Clear information brings confidence. Many thanks!

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

Look into using monoclonal antibodies as a prophylaxis. It’s as effective as the vaccines, but is only effective for 4 to 6 months or so. This is an option for those at high risk, and those for whom vaccines are ineffective due to immune system disfunction or other health issues. If Colin Powell had received monoclonals as a prophylaxis, he’d likely sill be alive today. He was vaccinated, but has cancer of his immune cells.

@Cindy-id1bl

2 жыл бұрын

@@terjeoseberg990 Hi Terje, thank you. Yes, we are looking into this. I have heard that there are now slow release monoclonal antibodies being used as a prophylaxis option.

Waiting for Part 2.

Also Dr. Ethel Maciel and I had a chuckle and a eye roll when we saw the paper. She is an Epidemiologist (John Hopkins) who works at UFES at Vitoria (ES) Brazil. You can count on me for any future translations. Your work here was extensive. I can believe Kerr included the certificate on her website. She really doesn't publish all that much either.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any thoughts on Kerr prior to the pandemic? She seems hell bent of getting rid of mammograms - I'm no expert on the pros/cons of mammograms, but the people against it seem a bit kooky.

It's a shame this video isn't viewed more. Maybe next time you should say something about how ivermectin working. Then everyone will watch it.

Thanks again Greg - what a curious paper and publication! Would never have realised though just how strange without your careful research and breakdown, so much obliged 👍

Thank-you so much for doing this analyses. It is so enlightening! I look forward to seeing the follow up video.

Sounds like a parody of a science journal. I think.the clue was in the name. How are journals reviewed to allow them to be called scientific journals? I know Greg highlighted low quality journals in a previous video, but is there a published blacklist, or quality assessment eg a star rating? Without that science in general is brought into disrepute by things like this.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

There's a published "whitelist" (medline), and a "blacklist" also (Cabell's International)

@clairelariviere3122

2 жыл бұрын

A parody is a good way to describe it. I know John Campbell’s insinuations and general delivery often remind me of Monty Python. Lol. Not funny really considering his popularity.

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

I was referring to this journal as a parody of a science journal.. You seem a little fixated on Campbell.

@clairelariviere3122

2 жыл бұрын

@@enkido5838 not fixated. Disgusted. Appalled by the lies couched as friendly advice.

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

@@clairelariviere3122 Genuine question. What lies? I watch his videos regularly and I think he has been right much more than not: Firmly pro-vaccination, pro-masks, encouraging of lockdowns, social distancing and shielding. That is nearly all that mattered for most of the pandemic and exactly the right message for his large audience. Keenly persistent on several things others don't talk about but which I believe are valid: Ventilation and vitamin D. Consistent on referring to excess deaths (130 000 approx) as the best indicator of covid impact. He was well ahead of most in realizing the changes represented by Omicron. He was talking about the potential positives of infection based immunity when the media was painting an apocalyptic picture. He takes a global view with less wealthy communities in mind. That is part of his humanity. Another aspect being the coverage of individual stories of long covid and vaccination injuries. I don't quite know what to make of his thing about aspiration but I got my vaccination in Asia and the nurse said "of course, we always do that" when I asked her if she would aspirate before injection, some it is not an outlandish position. He has I think, been overly enthusiastic about IVM. I am interested to see how that plays out. He has been critisized for the video on "deaths due to covid". I understand the critisism but in that video he did (as he does consistently) identify excess deaths as the "real" figure. I found the idea of 19000 deaths, due solely to covid, of otherwise healthy individiuals indicative of the severity of covid, not downplaying the impact. I form my own opinions but Campbell has been a good source of debunking arguments against antivaxxers, covid deniers and other conspiracies. My other favorite is prof Greg. To me, the difference in style is natural given their backgrounds. Greg as an academic and researcher, Cambell more of a patient facing clinician. They are both terrific communicators at a very useful level of detail.

Hello? Yes I’d like to report a murder.

Good detective work !

Thank you for the thorough and excellent breakdown. When I first listened to the video by JC, I was not sure about the study results from Brazil. The authors of the study from Florida had made their comments about their findings. I wish JC would be gracious to accept these contrary views posed and be more careful in his daily briefings. Not sure the purpose of continous disinformation or inaccurate interpretation of study results. Please keep educating us. Thank you.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

If you're unsure of Campbell's motives for ignoring well powered RCTs in favor of poster abstracts by undergrads, look up his social blade account. You'll see approx. 6 million reasons why.

@colincampbell4261

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesnite2157 please explain?

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

@@colincampbell4261 His viewership increased 30x over the pandemic. His subscriber base went from ~100k to over 2 million in a year. Social blade is a website that estimates income through KZread revenue, and estimated JC made up to £6 million in 2021. Other estimation sites put it even higher. He went from creating physiology videos less than once a month, to churning out daily videos. As the pandemic rolled on, his videos on more contentious topics e.g. VAEs, IVM etc. were spiking the most views and he gradually started doing them more, with a more provocative slant each time. These brought in a large anti-establishment audience and JC leaned into that. He went from discussing studies to reading out conspiratorial emails, massively misrepresenting studies and bandwagoning whatever nonsense the FLCCC pushed while pumping out innuendo constantly. It's understandable - imagine if your salary doubled, it would be very hard to stop what you're doing. Now imagine it increases by a factor of 30. He's subtle enough that people without a scientific background might not see him as being misrepresentative or a grifter, but I've already dragged this response out a lot so won't go into it. Happy to elaborate with examples if you're interested though.

This is a fantastic presentation! Virtually no one else has explored the dubious research, ethics and bonafides of so many hyperbolic papers and the journals that publish these papers. Occasionally I do my own background checking, What one discovers can be beyond belief. I found one Covid paper whose lead author was an eye surgeon…. And another that was written by a man with a career in combustion engineering. Both of these were theoretically peer reviewed; published in “scientific journals”; and promoted by social media influencers.

It's amazing to see these types of people customising their grift to cater to those suffering from persecutory delusions. If it worked then it would be well accepted by now regardless of any attempts to supress it. They tell us when it doesn't work it's always because it wasn't taken soon enough, dose wasn't high enough, they didn't take it with zinc or any other combination of extras, the new variant responds better to HCQ, have to take both IVM and HCQ etc.

@fintonmainz7845

2 жыл бұрын

Do they believe their own lies? I think they do. They probably justify sometimes deliberately telling lies because they believe "the other side" does too.

@pat2562

2 жыл бұрын

Always moving the goalposts.

@benedem4175

2 жыл бұрын

Note that Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore, and zinc is the active ingredient in inhibiting viral reproduction, so yes, it does make a difference to have zinc included in the study.

How does this video not have millions of views? Thanks, Prof Greg.

Seldom do I make fun of people's names but I feel now would be a great time to drop a pun about the suitability of Pierre Review

Curiouser and curiouser!!!

It would be great if you could do a video looking at a paper from start to finish, walking us through the exact process of what you do. Say I get forwarded a paper by a friend, if you could detail exact steps to take... First - copy the article title and put it into Pubmed, like this. Next, look try the same on Web of Science, and on Scopus.... like this. Then, I look for the authors, I check their references by doing this.... When I'm looking at the details of the journal, first I check if it's on the list of predatory journals here.... I then, etc. Basically, just a detailed walkthrough/tutorial showing how to actually do these things, and taking us along. That would be fantastic. Thanks so much for your videos, they're really awesome!

@jonpinkley2844

2 жыл бұрын

Much of that was covered in his "How you can spot scientific misinformation on social media" video from Dec 13, 2021.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

There's a useful book called 'How to read and critique a scientific research article' that is only ~100 pages long. It's a very good starting point.

@TheAlastairBrown

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonpinkley2844 Kind of. I have a biology degree, even I'm not familiar with the process. For instance - his list of predatory journals link is already invalid. I think a livestream showing the entire process, from watching his computer screen would be incredibly useful. The other video was simple suggestions, but in practice it's hard to emulate without someone walking through it precisely.

Fantastic info! It has been sad to watch some other previously trusted sources go off the rails so it is nice to know that I'm not actually crazy, lol.

@marcofurgoneta7227

2 жыл бұрын

It's not Patrick, it's dishonest. Its plainly aimed at discrediting ivermectin and non-pharma financed research and journals.

@patrickcallahan2210

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcofurgoneta7227 Are you sure we watched the same video? There sure are a lot of conflicts of interest that were undisclosed and more than a few issues with how the journal actually processes its version of peer review.

@Dragonslairminis

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure some people were ever on the rails.

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

Ivermectin worked like a charm for me and my wife who are both in our 50s overweight and with some pretty serious health issues. Call me crazy but the worst place we could have ended up was in the hospital on remdesivir and a Ventilator which would have given us about a 20% chance of walking out of there. Over two years into this Covid thing and that is still the treatment plan? Really? Call me crazy but that isn’t a health plan that is a date with death.

@patrickcallahan2210

2 жыл бұрын

​@@bigmacfullerton7870 Glad you guys made it through!

Even at a distance in Dr J Campbell's video on this I saw the name Pierre Cory among the authors. I have no idea whether this gentleman is right in what he says about the covid disaster but I had an idea what the paper was likely to say! I thought about the world of financial investments where the rule is: if a product is too good to be true, it very likely is.

@zzz-nu2re

2 жыл бұрын

Aka vaccines which were sold to the world as necessary and safe. When in fact they are neither

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

And yet it’s working for so many like me and my wife

@geofflander5720

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmacfullerton7870 Good. Long may it continue. With the huge financial gains that appear to be dependent on emergency use authorisation, pressure to rubbish any other solution is colossal. I try to keep an open mind on the matter, hence the first word here but I don't think the study in John Campbell's origin video looks robust. I have no financial interest in any of this.

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

@@geofflander5720 Yeah the sick and twisted thing is we are two and a half years into this 'plandemic' and we still have people like this guy here disparaging Ivermectin while it saves people's lives. People have been dying while big pharma and the government have been lying. When people go to the hospital with Covid and they get remdesivir then a ventilator and their chances of walking out are like 20%. That isn't a treatment plan. That is leading sheep to a slaughter. How many would have been saved had they just been given Ivermectin HCQ and vitamins??? I say 80% of them would still be with us but they were denied these medicines while they died. I had to go to Mexico to get mine. This is a nightmare

Great video. I saw this reported on by Dr Campbell and I noticed Pierre Kory's name as one of the authors. That alone made me suspicious. This would lead one to question the peer review process for all publications on Cureus.

I think there is a general unfamiliarity with the minutia of the scientific method. People understand the idea of doing experiments, gathering data, etc. The METHOD part of the scientific method remains largely ignored by the general public. Why is it that science demands “double blind” experiments. Why is peer review important? What is the difference between association and causation? Why is it important for researchers to list their possible conflicts ? Why is statistical expertise so important? When some one like Dr. Greg tries to bring up such issues….. people’s eyes tend glaze over. It is all to easy to confuse affability with reliability. It is all to easy to dismiss insistence on protocols as nitpicking curmudeonlyness

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

During a pandemic community studies are the first ones to come in and they can be very telling. No they are not peer reviewed clinical trails but they are all we have at the time and they can be very helpful at finding viable treatments or solutions. Ivermectin worked for me and my wife like it has for so many others. It’s a shame that people here are disparaging it when so many doctors out there are using it with great success against the disease. Tennessee just made ivermectin available to all in their state without a prescription. Why would they do that of it has no effect on the disease???

Looking forward to part 2, Greg.

absolutely brilliant detective work , Professor Greg, I'm so glad that decent honest people like yourself are still keeping these snake-oil charlatans under control with sober , sensible , scientific scrutiny. It must be very demanding and head-banging against brick wall frustrating for accomplished and professional scientists like yourself , but be aware that it is VERY much appreciated by many observers, so many thanks to you and please keep up the good work.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I have to say making this video was pretty wild. Lots of unexpected turns

"our familiar characters" Unfortunately these idiots are good at what they do. I sincerely believe that communications skills need to be taught to scientists There should be a Noble Prize for Science Communications. What use is scientific knowledge if it is not disseminated.

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

There will always be stew pid people who believe stew pid chit. No amount of communication skills will solve this problem. The problem is the many fools that these stew pid people are able to exploit.

@MarcosElMalo2

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re responding to the video, it’s not communication that is the issue, it’s ethics.

@fintonmainz7845

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 I'm not responding to the video directly but I'm trying to address the issie of how we deal with pseudoscience.

Some good research there. I was wondering when you were going to get to this paper *cough

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

There's still part 2! Hopefully it won't be as much of a wait

@garthdryland

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg I've just watched John double down on evidence-based medicine/protocols, calling out without naming those who make claims against him stating that without providing evidence blar blar however the more time that goes by, the more it seems to me that he either isn't even looking at the rebuttals or he's wearing the tinfoil to thick so that logic and reason are just bouncing off what should be a half-decent brain. I like John but it's getting to the point that I'm feeling embarrassed for him.

@MarcosElMalo2

2 жыл бұрын

@@garthdryland You’ll get past feeling embarrassed for him in due time. Maybe you’ll develop a combination of pity and loathing for him like I have. What Campbell is doing, whatever his motivations, is really disgusting.

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@garthdryland "it's getting to the point that I'm feeling embarrassed for [John Campbell] Honestly, he's been on the nose for a long time. My embarrassment for him started right after he used a "meta-analysis" (that wasn't an actual meta-analysis) from the most dodgy looking website ever (that turned out to be almost certainly funded by Pierre Kory's FLCCC) to promote ivermectin. At that point, my son, a long time fan of John Campbell, gave up watching his videos in disbelief and disgust. But I'm beyond feeling embarrassed for him. Now it's just down right disrespect and disdain for this grifter who is spreading misinformation during a deadly pandemic. I'm glad you are getting there though.

@bornach

2 жыл бұрын

@@garthdryland I never felt embarrassed for him. Campbell makes way too much money from all the grifting he does to drive up his view counts, for anyone to feel embarrassed on his behalf. He knows how to play his audience very well indeed to keep those clicks coming his way.

Do you claim it is not a protease inhibitor or it doesn’t bind to the 3cl protease?

@richvid9814

2 жыл бұрын

He addressed this question a while ago in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/em1puKWSfKXOXaQ.html

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

There's no evidence that it's a 3CL protease inhibitor _in vivo._

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

k m are you there? They addressed your question but you're now mysteriously no where to be seen.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 He doesn't know what a protease is so his regurgitation of jargon can only take him so far.

Excellent work, thanks!

A friend of mine had been advocating strongly for the Ivermectin protocol on Facebook and sending people the FLCCC website. Her husband was following it as well. He died a few weeks ago from COVID. She blames his death on “the war inside our medical system”.

@MarcosElMalo2

2 жыл бұрын

That’s tragic, especially because it was avoidable. Her husband died from willful ignorance and distorted thinking. I don’t want to assume too much, but I would speculate that she supported his ignorance and distorted thinking-essentially helping him to kill himself. Let me ask you frankly: is this a person you want as a friend? A person you want in your life?

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 What was avoidable is creating covid19 in a LAB. Now we are STUCK with it for all eternity.

@ChickVicious237

2 жыл бұрын

What was the dosage and which medications/supplements were given in his case? I'm sorry to hear about her loss, it sounds like she feels that the protocol they were hoping would be followed was not done within the medical setting? Perhaps I'm misreading, if so I apologize. If she feels his death was due to the conflicts within the medical community, it sounds like another case where the doctor was persuaded NOT to follow the protocols, as opposed to being the result of the involvement of Ivermectin.

@sundaysommers1476

2 жыл бұрын

All I know is that he was following the FLCCC protocol to prevent infection. She had said that neither of them would ever go a hospital and was telling other people not to, but to do home treatment using telemedicine instead. The next thing I saw was that he died of COVID. I didn’t want to insinuate blame by asking what they had done. He was not vaccinated.

@ChickVicious237

2 жыл бұрын

@@sundaysommers1476 that's too bad. I appreciate you sharing what you know. I'm here to challenge my beliefs, the more time passes the less I believe the medical authorities and I'm trying not to fall into the same blind faith I had in the vaccines, except in reverse.

Great video.. Thanks for making

wait they got two people to review it over the christmas/new year period? good luck getting much done from mid-december to maybe late january

Excellent thanks!

Does not monetising the channel hurt the reach of this video? There are science channels that donate add revenue to charity to sidestep conflict of interest. YT shoves every video from the UK dr in my face but I wouldn't have found this channel if it wasn't for twitter.

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

KZread is doing a piss poor job preventing the spread of misinformation, while simultaneously doing a piss poor job spreading the truth. It’s obviously intentional because they are not that incompetent.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it hurts the reach, at least the way I do it, because I never, ever allow non-skippable ads or mid-content ads. I have no idea what ads are shown on my channel, so they can't influence my content. I suspect you get more recommendations for Campbell's content than for mine because he's a big channel and I'm tiny. It's a form of the Matthew Effect. I am thinking about the potential for undue influence risk the "buy me a coffee" thing. I haven't finalised a charity strategy yet to blunt that risk, but it's in the works.

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg, KZread should have paid experts review content, then bias recommendations towards truth and away from misinformation. They don’t need to censor bad content, but rather promote good content and suppress bad content. There are several great channels that are small. Google could very easily overwhelm everyone who watches Dr. Campbell and Dr. Bean with those small channels so the small channels can grow faster.

@bornach

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg I hope you're also getting as many dislikes as all the comments I'm now seeing left by anti-vaxxers, Civid-deniers, Campbell-fans, etc. Paradoxically this also raises your engagement score in the KZread recommendation algorithm, and helps promote your content. More videos that outrage anti-vaxxers and COVID-denialists please!

Thankyou. Yes, could you do a study on effectiveness / ineffectiveness of lockdowns???

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

How many people died in China, Australia, and New Zealand compared to most of the rest of the world? It’s extremely obvious that lockdowns work, when done properly. It’s also extremely important to understand that death is not the only, or the most common side effects of infection by SARS-CoV-2. For every death, there are at least 10 who suffer long term, or maybe permanent damage to their health. How SARS-CoV-2 Causes Brain, Kidney, Pancreas, & Heart Damage kzread.info/dash/bejne/mW161tmkZM_VgKQ.html

@Dragonslairminis

2 жыл бұрын

There was one. It looked at all the lockdowns that didn't work and also specifically ignored those countries where lockdown worked. They came to the conclusion that lockdowns don't work. Funny that.

May I ask your full name and degree and bio?

Good news! The PRINCIPLE study has finally been released. I wasn't about to give up my stash of Ivermectin until then. Now I see that it has been shown to be effective (see the Forest plots on symptom improvement). I'll hang on to my stash!😉

Never stop making these videos. To much BS is on youtube nowdays.

India - June 20, 2021 "The Union health and family welfare ministry on Monday revised the Covid-19 treatment guidelines and removed the use of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and the antiviral drug favipiravir from its list of advised treatment." June 2021

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

I especially loved Campbell's disappointed face when Maheshwari said that 🙂

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-it2mr So why is there so LITTLE covid in LOW vaxxed countries?? And HIGH rates in STUPID countries like Israel with 4 doses. LOL. hahahahahahah

@richvid9814

2 жыл бұрын

@@GordoGambler Which countries would those be?

@frogsong100

2 жыл бұрын

@@GordoGambler - Give the numbers from a credible source. You can not do that, right?

@frogsong100

2 жыл бұрын

@@GordoGambler - This is what facts look like, liar. "From April 1-Aug. 18, 90% of Alabama’s COVID cases were among unvaccinated people. Unvaccinated Alabamians accounted for 95% of the state’s COVID deaths. “Current data shows that fully vaccinated persons who get COVID-19 are much less likely to get severely ill, go to the hospital or die from COVID-19,” ADPH said.

Thank you !

It’s a criminal organization

Love your work!

Greg, I want to commend you for your efforts but also warn that this isn’t just a battle of substance, but a battle of narratives. Carrying a lie long enough that it causes damage is the game plan here, and unfortunately, these conspiracy types have a strength in marketing. Think of the snake oil salesman… no joke they are able to influence and convince. The science community are not as equipped, so there’s a need to part with other social influencers to get the word out.

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

I speak as somebody with a passion for science and maths… we’re a breed that struggles to speak up… we’re focused on analytics… and it sucks. I really do commend you and ask that you keep it up… just giving you perspective of the rabid anti vax crows here… they don’t operate to substance.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I'm increasingly coming to realise the importance of science *communicators* in this, not just scientists and the public. This is, I think, a key missing link in much of the discussion of scientific misinformation

A couple of heads up New England journal has just published the long awaited together ivermectin study

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I did a rather longish write up that clinical trial but it seems to have disappeared :( We won't see an apology from John Campbell though. The grifter is now well and truly down the rabbit hole. I see on the side bar that he has a video called "The illusion of evidence based medicine". The irony of John Campbell talking about 'illusion': vitamin D (also a recent clinical trial on Vitamin D: "no effects on the incidence or consequences of COVID-19"), aspiration, ivermectin, deliberate infection with Omicron. The fool has gone stark raving bonkers.

@MrArdytube

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamverhoef4349 Fwiw, I have recently become aware that postings with web links are automatically deleted…. Probably because it is an easy scammer tactic So… better to put info leading to a successful search for those interested That said.. the Situation with DrJohn and Dr mubeen raises some interesting questions… Are they conscious grifters? Or perhaps something else? Something that is at t(e same time more innocuous, while also being more insidious? Perhaps they are sincere, but also deluded by factors such as feeding their self importance (and income)? Just putting this question in perspective… the reason for double blind protocols is the observation individuals have a propensity to skew results without having any conscious intention to do so. I can imagine both of these guys thinking they are on a self righteous crusade to save the world. And, let’s suppose that is the case…. Then there would be no need for conscious grifting… because in their mind, they would be absolutely sincere…. Which is, I think, among the most insidiously dangerous deceptions. For example… evil and diabolical as Hitler was… I think that he was ultimately sincere in his perverted view of reality

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrArdytube "postings with web links are automatically deleted" Yes, I'm painfully aware of that. I did provide a link but as a reply to my comment. Perhaps even that doesn't work? Next time I use a separate comment for the link. "DrJohn and Dr mubeen raises some interesting questions…Are they conscious grifters? " Not initially. Initially is was just woeful ignorance of the subject matter. This has always been obvious to anyone with the appropriate scientific and medical knowledge. But I don't think he would have failed to notice the increased income whenever certain topics were raised and he made the appropriate noises. "in their mind, they would be absolutely sincere" Nope, not in John Campbell's case. He has regularly announced in his videos that anyone who finds any errors in what he has said in his videos to contact him. I know of at least four individuals with expertise in the relevant areas where John Campbell does not, contacting him to point out errors in his videos. He initially simply ingnored them - so this is dishonest, right? He has invited responses but then ignores them leading his viewers to think that no one disagrees with him. And now he dismisses them as trying to profit off his popularity! In one case he ejected someone as a regular guest in his videos after she sent him an email outlining the errors he had made in his "analysis" of a meta-analysis of ivermectin. I am not as familiar with Dr Mobeen Sayed.

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamverhoef4349 Me and my wife both started getting better from A very nasty case of the delta variant the very next day after taking Ivermectin. We are both in our 50s overweight and have serious health issues. We both recovered nicely at home. We are better now and done with Covid. My biggest fear was ending up in the hospital on remdesivir and a ventilator where your chances or walking out of there is around 20%. That isn’t a treatment plan that is leading people to a slaughter.

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmacfullerton7870 I got, what was likely to have been, the Omicron variant. I was sick for 3 days and started getting better the very next day. And I did NOT take ivermectin. I admit that I am very fit and have a normal weight for my height. The point is that these are just personal anecdotes and cannot tell you what is the most likely outcome. For that you need clinical studies. And these tell us that ivermectin is not effective for the prevention of treatment of COVID-19. Also, you are not "done with" COVID-19. Immunity induced by either infection or vaccination is not permanent and does not eliminate the risk of re-infection. You still need to take precautions. And the success rate of ICU treatment of COVID-19 is not 20%. It is closer to 70%. But even if it was 20%, that's represents less deaths from COVID-19. You don't get admitted to ICU unless you are going to die without ICU treatment.

My husband is a fan of the FLCCC tribe and takes Ivermectin. He has a master’s degree in microbiology and tells me I don’t understand science. After listening to this video (fuming) he went on the FLCCC website and didn’t find any telemedicine connection for Dr. Kory. Can you tell me how to find it? Thanks for keeping on this.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I found it from Kory's substack. But I put a link to it in the bottom of the description page for this video.

@sundaysommers1476

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@frogsong100

2 жыл бұрын

"As proponents in the US clamored for wider use of ivermectin, in South America disillusioned officials were reversing their position. In February Peru removed ivermectin from its COVID treatment protocol altogether because of the absence of evidence that it worked." "It's incredible for me that we, a whole region, already went through this terrible situation in which lots of people have died," Garcia, the Peruvian official, told Insider. "They were taking ivermectin because it was known to us, so it was easy for us. And it didn't work."

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

​@@sundaysommers1476 If that made your husband mad, tell him to look up Thomas Borody and his patented IVM treatment too (spoiler - he's raised 10s of millions in investment). Also tell him to look closely at his co-authors on those studies (initials SH and PM). Also no offense to your husband, but about 95% of the people on my neuro/biomed master's knew far, far less than they thought they did about science. They're just as prone to biases.

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 So why DID it work in India and Japan???

Interesting video. They didn't disclose any conflicting interests, and you are not happy with the peer review process of the journal. When is part 2 out, Where I assume you rubbish the science and the study. Is miRNA one of your specialist fields?

@drdave34

2 жыл бұрын

If you look at Greg’s publications on Google Scholar, you’ll see that it is.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

@NIGEL DUFFY miRNA is not the same as mRNA. miRNA regulates mRNA translation. Edit: I realise you may be just asking out of interest, but clarifying for people who think you're referring to the mRNA vaccines.

This has to be Medical investigative detective work at its best…..keep it up 👍 ( btw if you stumble onto my channel, i’ve been creating some medical humor of late, check it out 🤓)

The FLCCC is saving lives. What is your contribution? How are you applying your training and intellect?

OMG ! heaing "process" video, I though BORING ! But, WOW ! Okay, Prof. Greg, I've left a comment on your video . . . may I have my Laureate badge now ? B-) 2:43 "... I'm not going to address the science at all, I'll leave that for the video that follows. But in this video I want to address some of the ISSUES IN THE PROCESS"

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It was a pretty wild ride. I felt a bit like an investigative journalist.

@MarcosElMalo2

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg I am still not clear how one gets laureate status. Was this a premium prize on Cureus’ kickstarter?

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 LOL, me neither. It's a mystery.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 I heard Laureate status is also exchanged for nudes.

Really surprising how much you discovered. Conflicts of interests should be put forward. I hope nobody tries to use the excuse that being affiliated with the FLCCC is a conflict in itself though. It's obviously not. Waiting for part 2.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

This is a tricky one. The FLCCC has clearly become a special interest organization. As such it becomes a conflict of interest when you are affiliated with an organization that promotes the use of ivermectin and write a paper that promotes ivermectin...

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

"I hope nobody tries to use the excuse that being affiliated with the FLCCC is a conflict in itself though. It's obviously not." You think? Wow!

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

Given that the FLCCC actively champions ivermectin use for Covid-19 I think the affiliations of the authors, as employees and executives of the organisation, qualifies as a conflict of interest in this case.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

A COI isn't an action, it's a situation, and doesn't have to be financially driven (although I've no doubt the FLCCC and their affiliates are making a pretty penny off their quack prescriptions). If you are part of an organization pushing a treatment, you absolutely must declare that as a COI - it is a crystal clear bias. The reader deserves to be aware of it.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesnite2157 which is why the Bryant et al meta analysis should have had a HUGE red flag from the journal a lot earlier, and for a different reason: one of its authors, Tess Lawrie, was the founder of the BIRD group - an organization that explicitly called for ivermectin to be taken up as a treatment.

Conflicts of interests. Hmm like when extreme vegans or animal rights groups get on boards studying eating animal products. Seem to not feel it’s important declare this important fact.

They should have disclosed interests.

Thank you for the video, very interesting!

Shame they can't just retract the bloody thing.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see any reason to retract it. It's a deeply flawed paper. and largely reflects the biases of its authors. But as far as I know it's not fraudulent, and lots of bad science gets published.

@ordinal2361

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg Yeah I guess so, its just when its anything to do with Covid, if you don't get it100% right, the Nurse Campbells of the world will cling onto it.

@richvid9814

2 жыл бұрын

The flat earther types would just say that big pharma suppressed it

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg I'd say that "fraud" is, and should not be, the sole reason to retract a paper. There are plenty of papers retracted for being simply wrong. Of course, this is still too haphazard, where you'll find one and the same journal retracting a paper because it is so wrong, and leaving another paper that is even more wrong (yeah, looking at you, Scientific Reports!). In this case, extreme biases that lead to misleading data analysis are in the grey area of scientific misconduct not far away from "fraud". According to several people they have done data analyses and data selection that led to a desired result - a form of p-hacking.

I notice that most of the papers published on this and related topics have authors with serious conflict of interest with pharmaceutical companies for example. This has become an information war and political pandemic. The entire publication systems needs to be overhauled, and various editors of top journals have described this problems arising over the last decade.

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

If a researcher doesn’t have a problem with big pharma he is probably being paid off by them. They are a murderous joke!

he/him is right bout this.

Hey Prof Greg, it seems to me that these scientists are doing everything they can to find journals that will publish their work.

@percybyssheshelley8573

2 жыл бұрын

You haven't looked at our very own N.I.H.'s PubMed, a research paper library hosted by the National Institute of Health, there are at least 17 papers attesting to ivm's efficacy in blocking the entrance of COVID across 6 pathways, as well as the reporting of Mobeen Sayed, M.D., Ph.D.

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@percybyssheshelley8573 name your favourite one of those papers so we can take a look at it

@quetailion6762

2 жыл бұрын

@@percybyssheshelley8573 oh mobeen syed, one of the grifters. studied medicine in Pakistan, failed as a doctor, studied computer science and now pushing misinformation to the gullible anti vax-clowns

@percybyssheshelley8573

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 No. You're such a Brilliant Big Researcher- Algorithm, put on your Big Boy pants and you choose YOUR favorite. You know how to find this on your own now, little boy. And you can stop it with pulling the "I'm sooo dumb, mommy find it for me" b s. act.

@yokkijoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@percybyssheshelley8573 it gives citations for its claim, or else it gets the hose again

It's likely the reviewers already had access to the paper as I believe it was available well before the date you stated.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

Can you get any more delusional?

Thank you.

One other note, is if you follow the money. Most incentives to abuse what you are talking about has been abused by the CDC, WHO, and FDA. Let alone why would scientists have to get court orders to release data. Like I said I would suggest you actually focus on organizations abusing human kind than those actually trying to help.

@dcottt95

Жыл бұрын

All of that really doesn't change the close to 100 studies on IVM. This was a weak study and it being any different wouldn't negate the many other studies not showing any benefit. If it had an effect, it would have been seen in the loads of better studies than this one. It just hasn't and thats cool.. they tried and it didnt work out.

Sounds like your objections are directed more toward the journal and their standards, and you seem to make a good point. There seems to be a bit of a crisis in credibility in medical journal publishing. We have the "lab leak" stuff with Dr. Daszek in the Lancet and the CDC citing mask studies in school children in AZ that clearly were bad studies. It really is awful.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

There are lots of journals with different roles, and I *think* there's a place for a journal like Cureus. I don't think they are predatory in any usual sense: they have actual editors, they don't charge for submissions (they charge for editing), and they offer some form of peer review. But I think their peer review is openly a light touch. Just thinking out loud: leading medical journals like JAMA routinely "desk reject" submissions because they are marginal: low quality, unlikely to change clinical practice or to be used to argue for changing clinical practice. Those submissions don't even _get_ peer review: the authors are told to submit elsewhere. But bottom tier journals (and I'm not just speaking of Cureus, I mean this more broadly) don't desk reject papers because they are too important. They should! I'd rather see Cureus publish case reports, and simply refuse to entertain clinical research studies and clinical trials, *because* those studies demand more extensive and critical peer review than the journal is able to provide.If a submission looks like it might be used, on publication, to argue for a change in clinical practice, I'd like to see Cureus desk-reject it.

Ok Ivemectin doesn’t work, but what’s the safe alternative? I don’t think there is one

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

at least 4 vaccines, paxlovid, dexamethasone

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

There’s been several safe alternatives that actually work available for over a year now.

@vtbn53

2 жыл бұрын

The vaccines are safe

@JTHeidrick

2 жыл бұрын

The only FDA approved treatments are reserved for high risk people expected to wind up at risk of hospitalization. For the rest of you, sorry, only Tylenol and chicken broth. Videos like this never point out this fact.

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@JTHeidrick "sorry, only Tylenol and chicken broth" Have you been living under a rock for the past 15 months? Does the word "vaccine" ring a bell? Hello?

Come on Prof you said you were considering doing a post about the vaccine trials? Please please do this and I will thank you and recommend you to everyone I know. Please put my mind at rest I'm more than happy to say I'm wrong which does happen from time to time lol. 😊

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

You’ve already been addressed on the trails by a number of people sluggy! Yet you then insist to run away back to twitter in response! Why not answer instead of cowardice? LOL 😂

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 Going to insults tells me all I need to know about you Matthew 😂. One to one you wouldn't do that 😂

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldgaffer9212 you still sliming away from addressing the answers given on the trial gaffer? Oh, facts aren’t insults my friend. A duck is a duck!

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

maybe it would help if you could explain what about the vaccine trials it is that requires putting you mind at rest

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 Your a real brave man

TODOS saying it is 50 IC50 and saying people seeing improvements would not be crazy. When you are done talking behind people backs and being petty maybe you could address Tolovid

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

You meant Tollovid, I guess? Well, show us the data, I'd say. Otherwise there is nothing that needs debunking - what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Todos claimed they would start a clinical trial in December 2020, but I have not seen any evidence they did and/or reported any outcomes. They merely state, on their homepage, that it is "scientifically studied", but since they sell it as a supplement, this means they do not need any evidence that it actually works.

Are you going to pick apart the vax studies? Considering vax disinformation and peer reviewing of vax by interested parties

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

why don't you do it? what evidence do you have of your clams of disinformation or issues with peer-review regarding the vaccines?

@steinarnielsen8954

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 BMJ already did it. I'd like to see Greg try to discredit that. He still hasn't responded to Campbell's iodine video though.

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@steinarnielsen8954 what was the paper in the BMJ?

@guytelfer1353

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 you got my peer review of vax my review concluded a medical breakthrough with cov2 vax. They could have claimed the vax to be 60% effective instead they way overinflated efficacy to 96%, ivermectin is a treatment not a cure same with vax as a immune booster treatments together weaken variants while timing is key

@guytelfer1353

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 disinformation leads to a higher efficacy because of excluded information , tainted trials and trials missing information. You can't rely on outpatient trials

FLCCC also provide a lot of free information that you can inform yourself and find your own source of medications. Many of the medications are easily available.

@sundaysommers1476

2 жыл бұрын

That is true. My friend and her husband followed their protocol for prevention. He also didn’t get vaccinated. He recently died from COVID.

@sundaysommers1476

2 жыл бұрын

But yes, take your vitamin D, etc. I’ve been doing that for decades.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

How much does it cost to produce IVM, how much is it being sold for, and who is selling it? Why don't you give Kory a call for a prescription? Will only cost you $1000.

@Jean42ette

2 жыл бұрын

@@sundaysommers1476 I also know folk who took it and did not die. Stalemate

Based on your logic, none of the CDC, universities, or other research could be done because they all have conflicts of interest. You again are showing a biased based view. If you follow your own logic you would actually look into the WHO, and China connection much more alarming.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

As explained, people can *do* research in case of a conflict. But they have to declare it.

Nothing to say on the Phizer trial data then??? 😊

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

Tell us what part of the Pfizer trial data you'd like a comment on.....

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

Lol he got the facts given to him about the PFIZER trials and now he refuses to address them.

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 Your actually making me smile your very strange ☺️

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 Say something else please 😊

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldgaffer9212 Your cowardice makes me smile. The way you frantically avoid the facts given to you like a rat running for the nearest hole. Still avoiding your Pfizer Trial answers?

"FDA revolving door"... are you happy with that? Are you happy that Phizer tried to delay the release of the vaccine raw data? Are you happy that any pharma doesn't have to release any raw data? Are you happy with pharma history of litigation?... USA Dr charging for consultancy, is this not common practice? Have you made this type of exposure video for all of your quoted papers or just the ones you don't like? Are you impartial?

@richvid9814

2 жыл бұрын

LOL no one was hiding anything The FDA office that would need to do the work has ten employees, including two trainees, and is currently processing about 400 FOIA requests. It also says the process is time-consuming as each page must be reviewed "line-by-line" and some information exempt from FOIA would need to be redacted. The FDA said the standard would be to release 500 pages per month on a rolling basis - 6,000 pages per year. Divide 329,000 by 6,000 and the result is 54.83 years. At that pace, the request wouldn't be fully answered until 2076. "Courts usually do not waiver from the standard 500 page per month processing rate even when a FOIA request would take years to process," the FDA said. They released documents, nothing special about them www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/the-leaked-pfizer-documents-are-actually-really-boring

I wonder if the journal is owned or has financial dealings with theses ivermectin fan club. Has to be a reason they get such special treatment.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the Cureus Laureate status? It's strange, but my guess is that it reflects the goofiness of the journal rather than malevolence

Prof Thomas J. Borody and Prof em. Robert Clancy are both saying something else. So, in the end who's to believe? The fact that several studies showed up, from different places all over the world, long before this became a controversial topic makes me wonder why all of these studies could be wrong. It leaves me confused.

@marcelruckenwind4563

2 жыл бұрын

@@markb9983 Who made a fortune on these generic drugs? Just a simple question.

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcelruckenwind4563 the grifters flogging them, obviously.

@francessimmonds5784

2 жыл бұрын

@@markb9983 not only have they made fortunes from flogging their snake oil HCQ and IVMs they tell ppl not to get vaccinated! Just to keep them sick and coming back for more. All these “doctors” should be struck off then jailed! 200 ppl dead from one of their dodgy trials is manslaughter.

@francessimmonds5784

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcelruckenwind4563 did you watch this video. He clearly shows how these grifters are making a fortune.

@terjeoseberg990

2 жыл бұрын

You need to understand publication bias. Basically when the pandemic started everyone was in a panic to find existing cheap drugs that work against Covid. Ivermectin is extremely cheap, and one petri dish experiment in Australia showed that it had antiviral properties so many small groups and individuals around the world tried it in vivo using extremely small clinical trials. Obviously when a clinical trial is extremely small, there will be huge variations in the results. That means that some studies will randomly happen to show that it works, while just as many will show that it causes harm, and the majority will show that it has no effect. The studies that show that it doesn’t work, and the studies that show that it causes harm will be terminated early, and will not be published, because, why would they be? They are uninteresting. However, the few that happen to randomly show that it works will be published, because they appear to be interesting, and obviously the authors who performed the trial want to be published and want fame and fortune for discovering a cure. They will also, obviously believe the results of their clinical trial. Then, other scientists who worked on majority of the trials and studies that show that it doesn’t work have to spend time and effort debunking the trials and studies that happened to randomly show that it works. When they say that a study has a 5% chance of being false, that means that out if 1000 studies, 50 will show that the medication works while 950 will be aborted and remain unpublished. This is a serious problem that’s difficult to solve. They try to solve it by requiring clinical trials to be registered before they commence so that we can see how many were aborted compared to how many were published. Another problem with these Ivermectin trials was that the majority, if not all of them were not registered anywhere, and therefore all the failed clinical trials are invisible.

Everyone on here should take the time to study the released vaccine trial data, I have and it's very enlightening. Do it and reply if you like I'd love to debate it. 😊

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

The "enlightening" part is how many people *think* they suddenly understand information that they've never understood before. Go ahead and debate something. Take one point at a time. Let's see how much misinformation you have taught yourself.

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-it2mr It's not that difficult to analyze the statistics Marco, that's what I do for a living. 😊

@oldgaffer9212

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-it2mr Have you read it?

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yea? The Pfizer Clinical trail docs that were available via FDA since 2020? Firstly, the data in the document comes from a mixture of sources, many of them not clinical trials, so it isn’t just clinical trial data. Secondly, the trial data is from the early stages of the vaccine development and there were a number of purely clinical trails since that demonstrated a high success. Funny you haven’t read any of those?

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

Thirdly, the source of these misconstrued documents come from the express, a known conservative tabloid paper with a founder in close ties to anti vax groups and UKIP. But hey? Sure you’ve never complained about bias before right? Another lie?

Don't suppose you covered the Andrew Hill research paper or delved into that. He researched and tweeted his enthusiasm yet despite the actual data in his paper his conclusion was against IVM - it was then discovered his university had just received 40m from pharma and he admitted that a person involved in this funding 'had a say' in the paper produced but WAS NEVER NAMED on the paper. This tells us that the whole of the systems of review are corrupt. I still however believe the on the frontline treatment from drs involved in this paper are trustworthy.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

Hi @Jeannette Richardson, thanks for your question. I'm sure you wouldn't want to get involved in the unwarranted slander of a dedicated scientist, but that is unfortunately what the stories about Andrew Hill are. His university hadn't just received 40m from pharma, and he changed his view on ivermectin because the evidence changed, especially as fraudulent studies were identified. I want to be clear here, Jeannette: the lies spread about Dr. Hill are not just slanderous, but dangerously so. He's received death threats. What Dr. Hill has demonstrated isn't corruption, but courage, holding his stand for science in the face of absolutely horrific slander and threats on his person. The people who've led that slander -- Tess Lawrie, Pierre Kory, and others -- should be ashamed.

@Jean42ette

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg The information I relayed came from what I consider a trustworthy source. I also watched the video with Andrew Hill - whose body language said it all. He even said if his brother was dying he would want him to have Ivermectin....or maybe I misheard???

@bigmacfullerton7870

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jean42ette Ivermectin worked for me and my wife just like it has for so many others. This guy is full of crap.

They should I agree all be independent reviewers, however we see so many so called independents financed by opposing industries that none of these systems are ultimately without 'interest' - maybe like yourself.

@drdave34

2 жыл бұрын

That’s rumor-mongering and, in the case of Greg at least, completely false. Shame on you.

@jamesnite2157

2 жыл бұрын

It's not about not having conflicting interests, it's about declaring them. These shills you are so emotionally attached to explicitly failed to do just that.

@Jean42ette

2 жыл бұрын

@@drdave34 No. It's a well known fact though I do see folk love to group think.

@Jean42ette

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesnite2157 So Andrew Hills paper (as he agreed) was influenced by someone who was not even listed on the paper. I agree all interests should be declared.

Calling someone anti vaxxer today is a complement. Your body language tells me everything I need to know about you.

@sundaysommers1476

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know any anti-vaxxers who have died? I do. Do you know anyone who has had a stroke after having COVID? I do. do you know anyone who has had open heart surgery after having COVID? I do. Do you know anyone who is having seizures after having COVID? I do. It isn’t a compliment to be called anti-vaxxer. It’s dangerous.

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@sundaysommers1476 Yesterday I was reading comments about the GROWING list of vaxxes given to children. They said it's like 70 now. WTF??? AUTISM has gone from 1/10,000 to 1/ 50. MORONS at the CDC are out of control.

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@sundaysommers1476 Ivermechtin is a HARMLESS drug at worst. So HOW did it get a NOBEL PRIZE??? I also saw a list of conditions it DOES cure. Over a HUNDRED chronic conditions.

@quetailion6762

2 жыл бұрын

get vaccinated

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

"Calling someone anti vaxxer today is a complement' Hilarious. It must be "Complimentary Medicine" then. 😄

So here you bash proven treatments..... What do YOU fucking suggest they use INSTEAD. My guess is NOTHING. LOL.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

He bashes UNproven treatments that are sold as miracle cures. Yet another paper has just come out that shows *ivermectin does not work.*

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down Gordo. These are just the facts. You need to deal with whatever deep seeded issue brought you here.

@GordoGambler

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 See just what I said. You have ZERO answers for covid.

@ezlaptopstand

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewa6052 his issue would be, being rightfully pissed off at the suppression of an inexpensive, repurposed drug that has shown to save lives. Many lives. I’m not talking only about in research studies but on the front lines. No matter how much egoic scientific masturbation goes on in the miopic world of those who think, “I’m going to show how smart I am how I can raise valid critiques of the minutia of mechanisms of action, research methods and statistical analysis”, it doesn’t amount to shit in the face of the mountains of front line evidence of its effectiveness. And I personally know 2 people who were turned around from moderately severe Covid infections very quickly with it. I know that’s just anecdotal, but there are tons of those anecdotes. So those who are flexing their smarts should be aware of the bigger picture that their missing, and asking themselves if they’re doing harm that they shouldn’t be doing to the health and well-being of people by jumping on the “let’s all bash Ivermectin” bandwagon just because, there are some studies that can be credibly critiqued.

@matthewa6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@ezlaptopstand IVM Isnt suppressed, hence your own admission of knowing people around you use it. What you mean is the claim about its effectiveness isn’t without criticism and you’re not happy with that. You’re not entitled to your own facts, Scott. You want to take it? Fine.

Let me guess, before I start watching this video. ...gonna bash ivermectin? (sound of a broken record...skipping over and over)

@MarcosElMalo2

2 жыл бұрын

Narrator: John H. didn’t watch the video, but he never intended to watch it.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

How'd that guess work out? The data is still consistent with Ivermectin providing a slight benefit to Covid patients. Or slight harm. Or nothing much at all. But it's not consistent with Ivermectin providing a *large* benefit, unless you have a simultaneous parasitic infection.

@arron8627

2 жыл бұрын

I have to agree. You don't even have to press play to know that he's going to say 'the same old same old' - Debuke Invermactin blar blar blar Doctor John Campbell blar blar blar, thanks for watching my sermon blar blar blar

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@arron8627 Arront nonsense.

@williamverhoef4349

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong, John (Campbell jnr?), bashed a very bad study complete with massive undeclared conflicts of interest in what looks like a pretty low grade journal to a pulp. Why don't you watch the video before commenting you silly thing.