Work with (primarily) elderly patients and the majority of them are double vaxxed and boosted. There has been multiple times this year that our ward has been overrun with (what I’m assuming is) Omicron. 9/10 patients are asymptomatic, and the ones who aren’t usually aren’t vaccinated.

It's amazing to be able to talk to a person with that knowledge and experience, thanks!!

Thanks for the Open Q&A. I hope you do it again sometime.

Keep up this great work, I hope this spreads widely, thank you!

Hi prof Greg I missed the live stream, probably because I am in the UK. So going to just listen, keep well and think you.

Yes! This needs to be a thing!

Keep up the livestreams 🙌🙌🙌🇿🇦

Dr Greg very disappointing to have missed this, very much hope that you do another some time in the future!

Keep up the good work. I'd love to see your opinions on the McMaster led study which stopped evaluating Ivermectin as "having no measurable benefit". The whole purpose of that study was to identify drugs that could be repurposed for use in Covid treatment. Also, the TWIV podcasts from Vincent Racaniello are very informative.

Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I will try to attend the next Q&A.

Thanks for this Greg. Really useful to get responses in real time like this.

What you're doing is so much important. Would you be able to cover ivermectin advocates claims about remdesivir?

This was a very well done livestream. I especially appreciate your ability to walk that razor’s edge of not underestimating the intelligence of the participants but also explaining the scientific language that many of us don’t truly understand. I’m reassured by a scientist who won’t hesitate to say « I don’t know that. ». I’m glad you mentioned Tom Nichol’s book The Death of Expertise. It’s a tough and infuriating read but helpful to me in understanding what on Earth is going on with misinformation.

Very interesting… looking forward to more livestreams. 👍

Most interesting. Liked the open format.

It takes less than a week to make a new mRNA vaccine. Maybe even less than a day. The problem isn’t making the vaccines. The problem is the clinical trials proving that they are safe and effective. I believe that although the original vaccines are still effective against severe illness, they are less effective against preventing infection, mild illness, and preventing the spread of the virus. That’s why it’s important to develop and test new variant specific vaccines in advance.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but I think clinical trials of efficacy for new variant vaccines will eventually be possible without doing entirely new safety trials. This should speed up the process a great deal.

Fantastic live stream. May not always agree with what you say as I am disciple of Dr Campbell but I respect your opinion and admit there is a lot of truth in what you have to say also

Gutted I missed this! Damn work!

Next Q and A can you also read all the questions out loud?

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

I'll try. I'm a complete novice, but I can learn!

@Overonator

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfGregTuckerKellogg Some people don't "watch" KZread videos, they listen to them especially Q and A videos where there is not much to see except a person talking, and of course there the people who have visual disabilities so reading out loud helps them too.

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

@@Overonator Thank you, I'll make a point of being more attentive and inclusive next time.

What a good mind this proff. Has . Thinking on his feet

Thank you, Professor. Just discovered this. So, will watch NIW even though it's late. Many if us are just discovering you, and that may be why there are fewer of us at this time. You will grow. Believe me.

damn I missed this live, I hope you do another one

I can hear you!

A suggestion for next live is to read out the questions for us oldies on phones with tiny writing 🙂

The point about Vit D is mostly that in the UK at least, almost everyone is vit D deficient, unless they are supplementing. Reticence to discuss Vit D also caused a failure to address higher mortality amongst darker skinned people.

Great chat. You should work on the papers Phifer has been forced to make public please

Very recently (late March or June, 2022 I guess) there were some headlines around infection by the omicron strains not conferring significant immunity to previous/dwindling but not yet really eradicated strains. Whereas the immunization based on antigens derived from the earlier strains is reasonably effective against omicron, symptom-wise mostly, although worse in the other regards. So maybe it's a little a bit of luck that the manufacturers didn't go on pushing new updates for every strain, although I had myself suspected this would be an advantage for this kind of technology. Maybe there's some degree of a cladistic pattern in how newly evolved antigens provide immunity, but not only that wouldn't be a guarantee, but yet another recent paper suggests that somewhat "cryptic" basal/earlier strains could eventually make a comeback, so it's probably nice we have more vaccines based on such strains and they happen to have a more cladistically broader protection than vacciines based on more derived lineages. There's even some worry that new animal reservoirs from which the pathogens could leak into humans again could already have had a significant role in the evolution of certain strains, but apparently the hypothesis for this being already the case is not that strongly supported. However is the case regarding extant lineages, I'd guess it's almost necessarily an inherent potential threat, given that the original pathogen itself was zoonotic. Maybe domesticated and urban animals are to some degree inherently safer just out of some degree of luck, of biological traits happening to be disfavorable to the selection of concerning pathogens to us, but again, there wre even hypotheses that maybe such animals or tissues of these animals may have been the key intermediate host. I'd like to see more monitoring on how this is evolving on domesticated animals. It may be overly cautious, but better safe than sorry.

I wonder if there's some ethical way to search whether the regimen of dosage of vaccines could influence the odds of really bad adverse effects. Intuitively/dumbly it seems almost necessarily so, but it would be nice to know for sure. Funnily enough, there were also some not-so-old paper(s) on how different vaccine regimens might affect long-term immunity versus a shorter protection, with some trade off between both. Somewhat unexpectedly to me, if I recall, the results were that smaller doses (or maybe some specific admninstration methods, like which tissues) were good at inducing long-lasting immunity, but not so much strong immediately. Whereas it was the opposite with higher doses or some other specific of administration. But I believe it was the dosage only. I found a bit perplexing to not see much of this being discussed apparently even in places where lots of ongoing research is discussed, as well as the issues with possible 'backfiring" of the immunization agent, which seem to have happened with prototypes for SARS-1. Fortunately, and surprisingly, such history wasn't also weaponized against the current developments. Or at least I don't recall seeing so much of that, it seemed more of a repetition of more generic arguments routinely made against immunization through exposure against safe antigens.

I love the way these guys always have guitars laying around in the background. " I'm actually a really cool dude."

Greg,tonight I phoned 3 doctors who are involved in the vaccines from day one, 2 in Germany and one in Ireland and I will ask more. None of them were at any stage asked to report anything about the vaccine side effects. One is a GP.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

"None of them were at any stage asked to report anything about the vaccine side effects. " In which case they should hand in their medical license, as it is made clear during their education they need to report potential side-effects of ANY treatment.

@angelinebriscoe-sperling8177

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-it2mr the statement was that they were asked to. That was my reply to that. In an event of injury is a completely different topic. Don't mix things up. This is always the reason for mix ups. People don't stick to the topic.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelinebriscoe-sperling8177 Again, they need not be asked to, they should do it as they have been taught to do so during their education. Imagine having to explicitly explain to a policeman that he really should report any burglaries...

@dellhell8842

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelinebriscoe-sperling8177 I'm in Ireland, and here all suspected Covid vaccine side effects are reported to the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA). In Ireland, the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) instructs Healthcare professionals that they should be alert to and report any suspected adverse reactions to the vaccine to HPRA. HPRA have issued reports monthly on notified potential side effects since the vaccine started to be rolled out in January 2021. As of 08 February 2022, a total of 19,468 reports of suspected side effects were notified to the HPRA.

@angelinebriscoe-sperling8177

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-it2mr Marco, the statement that Greg made was that the pharmaceutical companies told doctors to report. That was my phone calls and the reason for my comment. That it is common practice and done by doctors is a given. But that was not my questions to the doctors NOR was it Greg's statement. As Greg as a scientist will tell you, it is important to stick to the the facts and not extend or deviate. The doctors were not asked to watch out for any symptoms in vaccinated people. In fact a lot of them denied a connection between the vaccine and the side effects that appeared in patients after being vaccinated.

I'm a bit late but got it now..

There is a logical evolutionary rationale to suppose that pathogens tend to evolve into milder variants, but it's dependent ultimately on the degree that the pathogen's own fitness is increased by being milder. Which is a thing sometimes, maybe even somewhat often. But unfortunately it's far from a guaranteed outcome, or even a reasonable expected outcome, when the pathogen has more than enough time to spread itself before its host dies, which is precisely the case now. There is still the looming possibility of an inverse correlation, variants whose reproductive success are correlated with worse outcomes for their hosts. And even if it would ultimately drive the extinction of the lineage itself, it could happen episodically, as it's not like part of a planned long-term strategy. In reality it can even happen to some degree inside each infected individual, in the contagion from cell to cell, not only to different individual multicellular hosts, to different people.

I think that's the first time I hear someone else make exactly the same point about the wording "natural immunity" to infection-induced immunity. Sometimes I wonder if we shouldn't sort of cheat and call that something like "toxin-triggered immune reactions following pathogenic infection," to try to curb the appeal that "natural" has with "toxin" and etc, while still being possibly not wrong with the terminological technicalities. That's a joke, but not so much,funny, and also not even totally a joke, unfortunately.

I find very annoying how certain "spike protein theorists" seem to imagine this protein is only present in the pharmacological immunizing agent, and not in the virus itself, where it's produced in an inherently pathogenic manner, accompanied with other potentially pathogenic stuff. I'd imagine that even the total volume of what's produced in the body differs dramatically, partly because in one case the immune system is not as much distracted with less relevant.antigens, partly because the vehicle itself isn't self-replicating. In the case of inactivated-virus approaches, there isn't even more production of the protein itself. So, if anything, they should recommend those, not the "live" one. Or be minimally coherent and also defend lockdowns and etc.

Just listening to the comment about the connection of people involved in Ivermectin and if it is orchestrated from behind. That is quite unfair because Dr. Pierre Kory 's appearance in the Senate is where the connection goes back to.

Was SARS-1 worse? The total loss of human lives was tremendously smaller. It's precisely because it was worse in the "scarier" sense that in a way it was not as bad as 2, which was and still is neglected in the damage it causes despite having a death toll that's larger than that of wars. It's a kind of airplane crash vs car fatalties scenario, the latter seem less dangerous because they're spread thinner, even if the total is larger.

Take a tip from zdogg md. In live streams read out the question before you speak on the point

@ProfGregTuckerKellogg

2 жыл бұрын

Noted. Will do that in the future.

Is there any chance that the MRNA vaccines could have any unforeseen long term effects. How could we know?

40 years ago this guy would have sworn that cigarettes are good for you and he would have believed it to because he would have trusted the tobacco scientists just like he trusts the big pharma scientists now.

@dcottt95

Жыл бұрын

lmaoooooo your crowd is who the tobacco industry was appealing to. There was consensus in science on tobacco's link to cancer and the tobacco industry hired people to muddy it up. You are soo backwards with this comment

Greg, how do we know that the vaccines saved lives and that it is not that people get well because the immune system managed it and that those who died would probably have died anyway or were even treated the wrong way as I the video from Germany that I sent you. Just my thoughts after the comments on Ivermectin

I understand the desire to describe vaccine immunity as natural. I don't find that to be a "natural" use of the word and seems to be more of a pharma industry protection approach. Pharma would like all of their products to be viewed as natural and could make convoluted arguments to support that. Similarly using natural products in unnatural ways or quantities is also not natutal.

Campbell has been a constant strong advocate of vaccination. So if he leans mostly in one direction, on the topic it is provaccine. The main point I found dusturbing in the phizer report was the lack or redacted information on the number of vaccines. The denominator was missing so no opinion could be formed and the data released was almost worthless. This is the sort of deceptive practice which undermines confidence. If not deliberately deceptive, (to prevent misinterpretation), that is an intellectual arrogance which pushes intelligent people in the direction of distrust of "authorities".

@larrymullenjrband

2 жыл бұрын

Prof Greg explained why the denominator is redacted.

@Catman1116

2 жыл бұрын

Campbell is a strong advocate of ivermectin. He advocates the vaccines, but barely. I think Campbell has an eye on subscribers.

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

@@larrymullenjrband I consider the explanation to be inadequate. It is hard to think of any explanation that would we adequate since without it the data provided is close to meaningless and open to baseless misinterpretation fron either side. It is actually probably easier to use it against vaccinations since there is no basis for comparison with anything, either other vaccines or the negative effects of covid. In the end, withholding information fosters suspicion and conspiracies.

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

It is nonsense to say he rarely mentions vaccines. When reviewing statistics the rate of vaccinations is frequenty referred to in understanding variations in death rates especially in the US. He has often mentioned his own vaccination status and during the rollout he followed it closely. Vaccines (double and booster) are treated as a noncontroversial good. The rate of vaccination in the UK indicates that that is a noncontroversial position. All that up to and including omicron, although we are now moving into a different phase and the case for regular boosters or Child vaccinations is far from clear given the level of immunity in the population. Ivermectin and vaccinations are only related in the minds of antivaxxers. You could not possibly view his videos and conclude that he is antivax or even not very pro vax unless you subscribe to the bizarre view that anything which is not a vaccine is antivax.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@enkido5838 "It is hard to think of any explanation that would we adequate since without it the data provided is close to meaningless and open to baseless misinterpretation fron either side." It really is simple: not *legally* allowed to release such potential company-sensitive material. The *company* can do it, you can make a strong estimate based on other public information, but the FDA is simply legally not allowed to release that information. They cannot take into account potential "misinterpretation" in their decision.

Along with the politicisation the other huge failure of the US is the poor healthcare in general, reflected in Obesity and chronic illnesses. Healthcare in the literal sense of maintaining good health is achieved by lifestyle and diet not pharaceuticals and hospitals. If we (US most of all) continue to fail to promote actuall healthcare we will fail just as badly in the next pandemic. Unfortunately, as here, any mention of non pharma or non vaccine solutions (for use in addition to vaccines) are met with accusations of "non scientific conspiracy" positions. Promotion of good health in general and simple preventatives (sleep,Vit D, ventilation, masks) is a regular theme of Campbells videos but seem to be one of the reasons he gets such abuse.

@dcottt95

Жыл бұрын

PE class in early elementary school taught the benefits of a healthy diet and regular exercise. This is common knowledge. Most peoples interactions with doctors is when they're sick and being told to eat right/ exercise/ etc. will not help if currently sick. Everyone knows these things are good for you and hearing from their doc likely isn't going to convince a lifestyle change they are definitely aware of already. No one is shot down for recommending anything outside of a vaccine - people telling others dont get vaccinated just take vit C/D or IVM and making things up to justify not wanting the vax when they can just say I don't want the vaccine and leave it at that.

You have to scan a QR code to enter a grocery store? This guy is so risk adverse he would prefer everybody live in a plastic bubble.

Quite a bizare statememt to object to a level of concern about vaccine injury. Especially as an accusation against such a strong advoate of vaccination as Campbell.

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

go through his last 15 or 20 videos and see how many are misrepresentations about myocarditis, vaccine side-effects or anecdotes from people claiming to have suffered vaccine injury and then how many are promoting vaccines as safe and effective.....the rationale for the accusation will then become clear to you

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 I watch most of his Videos. What I see is enlightening discussion and review of data. I see some mistakes including the recent abstract debacle which I knew was wrong immediately (thanks to Dr greg a few weeks earlier). Using multiple sources I gain an improved understanding which has proved very reliable over the past 2+ years. Dr G is another excellent source. they come at things from different angles and both are valuable, both seem honest in their approach. There may indeed be some change in the last few months, that would be natural with omicron and moving from pandemic to endemic. Concerns about (rare) side effects and injuries are more relevant when the risks of serious illness have been reduced (largely by vaccination).

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@enkido5838 you evaded the question though: how many of the last 20 videos were misrepresentations of myocarditis data, misrepresentations of vaccine side effect data, non validated anecdotes from people claiming vaccine injury.... plus misrepresentations of Ivermectin data and misrepresentations of the number of covid deaths? and how many were dedicated to promoting vaccines as safe and effective?

@enkido5838

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonflyingdutchman9573 there is little need to promote vaccinations as effective that is obvious in the statistics of death and serious illness. My awareness of that comes from Dr C and a number of other sources.

@nonflyingdutchman9573

2 жыл бұрын

@@enkido5838 And again, you evade answering the question, but I think we all know why, and it is the rationale for the criticism of Campbell

Does this naïve person think that corruption has played any role in the pandemic response?

Dr Geert Vanden Bossche has a different opinion than you about this Pandemic and he just has been so right about his predictions from the beginning. You should study and learn from him! It’s really silly of you to say which country handled this Pandemic in the best way. Why would YOU know that? You criticized Dr Campbell and Dr Bean and now Dr Anders Tegnell of Sweden without any proof, just your outspoken opinions are there. You really respect only yourself!

@skepticalbadger

2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear. You are rather confused.

@minRef

2 жыл бұрын

Annnd this comment demonstrates why appeals to authority are shitty way to think.

@Marco-it2mr

2 жыл бұрын

"learn from him" You'd just learn to be consistently wrong and make false claims. You claim he has been "so right about his predictions", but I've never seen someone come with an objective list of his predictions and how he supposedly was right about those. For example, Vanden Bossche has been claiming that vaccinations would result in a variant that is deadlier to unvaccinated. Reality? We now have a variant that is, at worst, as deadly as the original one...

@steinarnielsen8954

2 жыл бұрын

I bet that Greg failed to predict the 2nd wave. By June 2020 most people thought the pandemic was over.

@Lily-Bravo

2 жыл бұрын

@@steinarnielsen8954 Since the Spanish Flu had a second wave, even I as an ordinary person was expecting one.