And that's how you throw shade and pull rank at the same time. "Your queen-not a showgirl"

@Sisyphus27

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think she was essentially calling Margaret a showgirl?

@MauriceRivers415

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sisyphus27 I think so. Margaret, like many entitled Leos, felt the need to always have the spotlight.

@i.wyvernortham

3 жыл бұрын

@@MauriceRivers415 but I think it be noted that not all Leo's are like that! I myself am one and I quite frankly mostly hate the spotlight! Zodiac signs don't mean everything and people don't always carry the personality destined for them by their time of birth! Princess Margaret Rose was born right on the cusp of Leo and Virgo!

@tahuaroa

Жыл бұрын

@@MauriceRivers415 we totally do

@prismaticmarcus

Жыл бұрын

@@Sisyphus27 IRL she said, 'I'm not a showgirl' several times. it was important to her that she was authentic and not put on a performance.

"Yes. And it's the flat end, remember".

@g.coleman

5 жыл бұрын

roddo that’s what she said

@beautifulleopard3929

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry , Not Sorry. .....

Margret never understood what was really needed to be the sovereign. Not putting up a show and being glamorous, but being diciplined, modest and someone people can relay on doing their job. Someone who can put personal things to the side

@shanouboubou

Жыл бұрын

But are we sure it was the way to do it ? Sure it's what the system demanded, but so many characters (Margaret, Philip, Diana, Charles) challenge the system and usually are proven right when they try to modernize it. Would it be so bad if the sovereign showed an ounce of humanity ? I feel like even the show keeps asking that question

@wyzemann

9 ай бұрын

@@shanouboubouThe Crown has already answered that question at the end of this episode. The Monarchy should shine, not the Monarch. The institution is supposed to embody duty, stability, and longevity. None of those qualities are found in “showgirls,” who constantly clamor for the spotlight and outshine everyone and everything around them, albeit fleetingly.

@lulupomegranate

2 ай бұрын

@@wyzemann Institution ISN'T dutiful and stable, though. All of the pretty and heavy words they toss around is just a flimsy excuse for all the wealth and privilege they have. If this was medieval fantasy I'd maybe accept the Queen's reasoning, but honestly, as it is, she's full of shit.

@tricuarta

Ай бұрын

@@wyzemann I think you are right, i lie in Sweden and our monarch and the royal family almost never make a scene but are doing their jobs, and can be very elegant and glamours but also very timid and make no waves what so ever, i mean our king drives himself and the queen to work some times!

"I'll try not to upstage you!" Well, she *tried* not to, I guess! 😄

Margaret could never accept being in her sister's shadow, and I think that affected her for the rest of her life. But it's a blessing she wasn't born first, because her arrogance and (later on) recklessness would've scandalized the throne, and she very well could've repeated the national abdication crisis of 1936.

@abdullahjaved0330

Жыл бұрын

The crown finds the right head

@MauriceRivers415

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahjaved0330 Absolutely. Margaret's arrogance and haughtiness was her downfall, and her failure to do anything useful with her position.

@peachbooks3199

Жыл бұрын

yes, it'd be a nightmare if margaret is queen 😂if i were her, i'd be so happy i get to get so much more freedom and privilege as a princess and none of the responsibility of being a queen, idk why she didn't see it that way. sibling jealousy and desire for spotlight, i suppose. bless her, but it was such petty jealousy (idk if real margaret is THIS jealous, im talking abt her portrayal in The Crown). we don't see Anne being that way to Charles despite people actually wanting Anne to be queen than Charles being king

@audreykennedy90

Жыл бұрын

Margareth had no purpose in life. Not much education and no job.

@lulupomegranate

2 ай бұрын

@@peachbooks3199 She wasn't given freedom to marry who she wanted. SHE, who is just a princess and who will never be queen (Elisabeth already had two kids by this time) couldn't marry her guy because he was divorced, meanwhile Elisabeth, heir to the throne, could marry Philip with his Nazi sisters. Wtf.

Vanessa Kirby was excellent! I loved her performance.

Do you realize the impact of this scene? i mean, the Queen, the SOVEREIGN, whose everyone courtsy to, is kneeling down to someone who has a sword!!! This shows how close they were and how much trust they had with each other. She was not only the queen here...she was just her big sister.

@dijoxx

Жыл бұрын

You realise this is all fiction, right?

@SR-iy4gg

Жыл бұрын

You do know these are two sisters in the 20th century, right? This wasn't back in the middle ages or something. She had no fear Margaret would kill her.

@countlitmogaphil392

Жыл бұрын

Dude, its not mediaeval period, margaret isn't exactly going to slit her throat and claim the throne...

@prismaticmarcus

Жыл бұрын

@@countlitmogaphil392 well, she would've had to make a dash for little Charles and Anne as well. with a pistol-wielding Tommy chasing her down the hallways...

@prismaticmarcus

Жыл бұрын

@@dijoxx can't pull the wool over your eyes...

The more you repeat about yourself that you have "character", the less you have imo. The way Elizabeth handled herself and Margaret kept attempting to degrade her sister in terms of personhood to look superior speaks volumes of her jealousy at how well-liked The Queen was.

@apuntes8883

3 жыл бұрын

Saw them fighting alone then loosing the battle. Then seeking vendetta and a killing every time they saw the chance. Intruders were their accomplice. From low to criminal.

@timothycook4782

3 жыл бұрын

This also might just be a ham-fisted example of "tell-not-show" on behalf of the writers. Somehow I doubt Margaret would try to simplify all her differences with Elizabeth down to saying that she's "the one with more character" in real life.

@jailonbailey2149

3 жыл бұрын

Real life wasn't like this their relationship was dramatized

@kristelpi652

2 жыл бұрын

Even worse, this was peter morgan trying to put two sisters against each other who in real life adored and respected each other. So it’s the writer who’s the weirdo

@user-pj4rg5ol8w

Жыл бұрын

"The more you repeat about yourself that you have "character", the less you have" what utter nonsense. still, Margaret's character was not lessened as time goes by, she still has that wit and carefree attitude with her throughout her life. Your character is innate and you will have and carry that on forever, so if you're "characterless" then you will stay that way up until you die lmao.

Now this is Elsa and Ana in real life😊

@kkandsims4612

3 жыл бұрын

Except I would wager Margret is more like Elsa and Elisabeth is anna

@annisaramadhannia5557

3 жыл бұрын

woow impressive

@Scrubbini

3 жыл бұрын

Lol fuck Elsa and Anna. These are cartoons.

@TheFlowerofSpades

3 жыл бұрын

Now that I think about it, it’s actually really similar.

@creativewriter3887

3 жыл бұрын

Just let it go, already... lol. Sorry.. I couldn't resist.

I'm gonna miss these two so much. Claire was so good in this. I'd imagine if queen Elizabeth would see this she'd think to herself "I wish I was that fabulous and witty at that time".

@kristelpi652

2 жыл бұрын

No she wouldn’t? The queen was (still is) witty behind closed doors and could have been fabulous too, only she had an entire monarchy to look after.

@perry5654

Жыл бұрын

@@kristelpi652 also lol wat's more fabulous than being the queen of the uk??

@u8395

Жыл бұрын

Oh trust me her majesty Queen Elizabeth of England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 is more than fabulous and witty, she’s a badass

This show has some superb writing. I must say.

Love this scene, perfectly executed

"Well you seem uncharacteristically jumpy, guilty conscious perhaps?"

Me and my brother fit the dichotomy between Elizabeth and Margaret like puzzle pieces lol "Too much character, an excess of character.".... "Now look at me and tell me you didn't say that without a little bit of envy." XD

@creativewriter3887

3 жыл бұрын

"a lack of compassion can be as vulgar as an excess of tears"... the Dowager Countess "Downton Abbey". lol

remember when Phillip said to Elizabeth "or she could get on her knees." and Elizabeth got on her knees in this scene....OH LORD JESUS LMAO

The Crown always finds it's way to the right head!

I miss the original cast

Can you please upload the scene where they have the heart-to-heart conversation at the end of the episode, where Margaret expresses her feelings of resentment about being in Elizabeth's shadow?

Having only 2 children always ends in trouble. Endless competition and jealousy. 💕

@creativewriter3887

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. at some point you realize that each is an individual and get on with your lives. It's called adulthood. Many may live long, but very few ever reach it. :)

@GoGreen1977

Жыл бұрын

That's a ridiculous comment.

wonderful

Great scene

There's always at least a bit of jealousy in relationships.

0:54 Is Margaret throwing shade towards Prince Phillip?

@lindaclarke204

4 жыл бұрын

That is how I interpreted it.

@sergicalvet600

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Townsend (RAF officer)

@Edmonton-of2ec

4 жыл бұрын

Sergi Calvet Why would be throwing shade on the very man she uses that line to compliment?

@lordalessan

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if she did here but she threw shade at Philip so much in season 2. Whenever Elizabeth brought up Peter's divorced past and family background, she always insulted Philip's family; his Nazi sisters, his deranged mother, and philandering bankrupt father. She made a good point, but that's why it was satisfying to see Philip throw shade at her in season 4.

@Edmonton-of2ec

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordalessan Tbf, his father was long dead by the events taking place here and well, the portrayal of Alice in the show, especially at Elizabeth and Philip’s wedding, isn’t wholly accurate

With her last remark, do you think Elizabeth was essentially calling Margaret a showgirl?

@charmedprince

3 жыл бұрын

A tabloid fodder

@avishivashisht3988

3 жыл бұрын

If she was, it was in response to Margaret's own words...she had to tell her off at some point.

Can you please upload the scene of the heart-to-heart talk that they have at the end of this episode, where Margaret expresses her envy for Elizabeth?

Some of these scenes were VERY TENSE

margaret I LOVE YOU

Although Margaret would never kill anyone, do you think she toyed with the thought of cutting Elizabeth's head off in this scene?

@dj3114

3 жыл бұрын

No

@miamagcamit-salvador1037

2 жыл бұрын

They're sisters. I'm sure she did, though never seriously considered it, or never would have gone through with it

@sarahcorbo3659

7 ай бұрын

Even if she did, it still wouldn't have made her the sovereign. Charles was next in line at that point

Anybody else want to kneel in front of Vanessa Kirby while she dangles a sword around my head or is that just me?

I don’t watch this show so can someone tell me what the sisters are doing here? Did Margaret stand in for Elizabeth while she was away?

@h.calvert3165

3 жыл бұрын

I don't watch it either, but that seems to be it. The Queen appears to be unable to appear somewhere, for whatever reason. . .Commonwealth tour, perhaps? So Margaret will deputize for her in her absence. Including bestowing knighthoods. 🗡

@marywenzel3199

27 күн бұрын

That’s it…ERII Was on her 1954 tour of the Commonwealth and was going to be gone many months. When the sovereign is out of the country or otherwise indisposed the counselors of state fill in for him/her doing ceremonial duties like Investitures, greeting foreign dignitaries, receiving credentials from new ambassadors and filling in for other public appearances. Margaret was a counselor of state until Prince Edward turned 21 and replaced her. The counselors are the monarchs spouse and the next four in the line of succession who are over the age of 21.

YAAAS lilibet, read that b*tch 🤩

I do not remember this scene. Is this a deleted scene? 😀

@TheWittySam

6 жыл бұрын

Kimberley Morton it’s not a deleted scene. Go back & watch the episode... it’s there.

@KimM13744

6 жыл бұрын

Samantha Banfield Found it, thank you 😄

@smellycat264

5 жыл бұрын

Kimberley Morton it’s there Girlfriend

@youngwolf6896

4 жыл бұрын

Samantha Banfield which episode?

@jcreationz6235

4 жыл бұрын

Samantha Banfield why the attitude?🤨

Thumbs down for 480p.

Is this a reference to the Duchess of Sussex?

This is a deleted scene no doubt

@wisegirlandseaweedbrain250

4 жыл бұрын

No it's not...It's in the episode.

@youngwolf6896

4 жыл бұрын

Wise girl and Seaweed Brain which episode? Ive watched this series on uk netflix three times and ive never seen this scene.

@wisegirlandseaweedbrain250

4 жыл бұрын

@@youngwolf6896 I guess it was in the end of episode 9 ...But I am not sure...If you can't find it on Netflix..You can download a rar file from Todaytvseries... I got it from there.

@Axel-ll2jp

4 жыл бұрын

Not deleted I watched on Netflix

@joakimforsman7575

4 жыл бұрын

You can find the scene in season 1, episode 8 titled ”Pride and Joy”, about 12:49 in.

But, in the end, Margaret was steadfast and loyal to her sister and she was the nearest and dearest to Elizabeth. THAT also speaks volumes about Margaret.