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@johnnyharris

Жыл бұрын

The Story of Julian Assange | Part 4

@Apurvanotfound

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyharris I live in India and Older people here say that "Russians are committed to their agenda, whether it's good or bad but Americans are hipocrats ." ie they're pro russians. But now with story of Assange its clear that USA is not free for people and the saying of these people seems to fit in this scenario. In context of Russia, USA is supporter of" free speech" which is against Putin but it cannot tolerate "free Speech" from Australian. What a hipocracy.

@skybluedreams77

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnnyharrisyou are so handsome 🤩😍

@azadhasan3541

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnnyharris J

@andrewweaver2517

Жыл бұрын

So, not proud of this, but, I was in the brig with Bradley Manning during our time overseas, specifically, in Iraq and Kuwait. He/She was never hurt, treated badly, etc. I can tell you the exact point they put him in solitary confinement. If you're interested. I'd be happy to tell you about it. Straight up, never received any extra or out of the ordinary punishment.

It's not a crime to commit war crimes it's a crime to tell the public.

@SARUJAN5

Жыл бұрын

This needs to be pinned

@itsytyt5192

Жыл бұрын

Ha

@jorritvanderkooi939

Жыл бұрын

Not surprising, as the US has a plan to invade The Hague if an American is tried in the international court there

@ThebigJJ621

Жыл бұрын

Correction is only a crime if you tell the public about "your" government's war crimes.

@praveenveeranki578

Жыл бұрын

Pin it

That espionage law and how it came in itself is controversal

@mcmarkmarkson7115

Жыл бұрын

We all know US spy agencies have freedom to do whatever the hell they want. We already know so many crimes from FBI and CIA, there are more spy agencies we never even heard of

@haxalicious

8 ай бұрын

It did what now? 😳

@Mr.Plant1994

8 ай бұрын

@@haxalicioushe’s saying that even when they discussed adding laws to punish whistleblowers it was controversial among those that wanted to add it in.

@tylerbozinovski427

8 ай бұрын

Yep, it happened during WWI to facilitate the gangraping of Germany.

@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye

8 ай бұрын

​@@Mr.Plant1994I think you missed the phrase _came in itself._

Oh America, the country where you have the Freedom of Speech, unless you're against the Government that is.

@alberthoffman5297

8 ай бұрын

its not a crime to spread what's been published. but many peoples lives depend on the anonymity of these documents

@ericlee5515

8 ай бұрын

@@alberthoffman5297 Yeah, war criminals depend on this to stay classified so they won't face justice

@natetherat2063

8 ай бұрын

@@alberthoffman5297agreed

@semillakan6

8 ай бұрын

@@alberthoffman5297yeah they depend on anonymity to continue committing war crimes without punishment, did have you ever read what Assange pulled into the light?

@alberthoffman5297

8 ай бұрын

@@semillakan6 believe it or not. most of the people in those documents did not commit war crimes

Free press!!! It's absolutely RIDICULOUS what theyre doing to this man. We should all be demanding his release....

@flightranchu3486

3 ай бұрын

He had other ways to whistleblow and get the CIA in more trouble. His actions was careless and led to the death of thousands of people, whole families were wiped out. He had other ways of whistleblowing but he chose the most reckless and shitty way possible. Rip to everyone who he has gotten killed.

@LuthairLineage

3 ай бұрын

He committed a crime. A good crime, but a crime nonetheless.

@oentrepreneur

Ай бұрын

​@LuthairLineage so the government shouldn't be criticized when they do something wrong?

@LuthairLineage

Ай бұрын

@@oentrepreneur Not if that requires you to steal and leak documents, and endanger the lives of informants? Free speech is voided once you commit a crime to obtain what you are speaking about. If I hack your computer and see a crime you commit, and I didn’t have a warrant to do so, they cannot use that evidence in court as it was illegally obtained. I never said what you’re accusing me of saying.

Telling the. Names of military informants could get them killed though no

@daoudkamal7768

Жыл бұрын

Where exactly are you getting this info? That he leaked informants?

@boozy8659

Жыл бұрын

@@daoudkamal7768 a lot of informants have not been seen since his leak. Although they haven’t confirmed it to be directly related.

@JRay2113

Жыл бұрын

Still not a crime of news organization to publish that info. Proof? Everyone thinks Snowden published the sensitive info… but it wasn’t him. Edward Snowden gave the Washington Post the inside scoop on the spy program. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT PUBLISHED THE SENSITIVE INFO!

@Playingwithproxies

Жыл бұрын

@@daoudkamal7768 45 seconds into this video maybe.

@daoudkamal7768

Жыл бұрын

@@Playingwithproxies yeah becauseWord of mouth of us government accusations is truly a fact, no need to cite sources or you know to actually link directly to the leak :)

Who cares if he broke an American law he is an Australian. The Australian government should deal with him.

@BlitzkriegHD

Жыл бұрын

Somehow, I doubt that his treatment would be any better in Australia as opposed to the states 😂

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

@@BlitzkriegHD I don’t think he would survive long in the outback. I feel like that’s the Australian Governments punishment is to put him in the Outback.

@iJigarThakkar

Жыл бұрын

Yeh here in Straya government is same as useless as there, Aus is just another state of US

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

@@iJigarThakkar I think they’re gonna put him on the outback, punishment enough.

@brremsilverte.9022

Жыл бұрын

Well, he is being charged for stuff he did regarding the US

Assange is a hero and anyone who disagrees is a bootlicker.

@chadgaming8071

Жыл бұрын

you cannot hack the goverment and send out files its a threat to national security

@rk55587

11 ай бұрын

He is placing US informants in danger, so...

@Waltusb0yuas

11 ай бұрын

Aggred

@andrewsmith9677

11 ай бұрын

@@rk55587no not really

@rk55587

11 ай бұрын

@@andrewsmith9677 why not, he published the names of freindly informants who could be in dangerous environments and thus be at risk of being captured and even killed.

Publishing those names kept secret likely resulted in a great many of them being imprisoned or executed. It's not like the media should get off scott-free here. They also need to be held to account for what information they release.

@1antag0nist53

7 ай бұрын

Maybe if the government was more transparent those people would still be alive.

@Julian-tf5rb

7 ай бұрын

@1antag0nist53 These are basically spies we are talking about. A lack of general transparency is what characterizes a spy. If the US government wasn't on the DL about agents and informants, they'd be dead even quicker. You didn't think through the logic on that statement before you wrote it, did you?

@isaacfoster1377

7 ай бұрын

​@@1antag0nist53Unfortunately, yes they do.

@TheImmigrantEater

7 ай бұрын

​@@1antag0nist53oh yeah, we should let everyone know all of our military personnel's location and plans! That will stop our military from being killed.

@nyancat8655

7 ай бұрын

@@1antag0nist53transparent???? They’re fucking important names and are under cover. FOR A REASON. Now he’ll get prison time for not thinking about 💀

The publishing charge is scary but valid, if you publish sources (informants) you are not only outing a methodology which you may not go to jail for your endangering a network of individuals and I think that is where the government draws the line, I’m not certain but I was a source handler for the army and I believe that’s the redline

@mikesmnell414

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. Everything else is fishy but actually putting peoples lives in danger by publishing their private information is legitimately a reason to punish someone.

@theirishasian5490

8 ай бұрын

Especially if anyone died as a result

@oli3492

7 ай бұрын

People have died due to Julian Assange’s publishing of informants. Majority of them were in countries like Iran, China, and Russia. There is even security footage and testimony showing these informants getting arrested and executed once the documents came out. I don’t agree that publishing alone should warrant a charge from the government when it comes to government actions. This isn’t that though, this is punishing informants in life threatening situations just for speaking with the US government. Many of them were literally free speech advocates in hostile nations that were already in danger for simply speaking out to their respective governments. Julian fucked them over.

@leonfa259

7 ай бұрын

​@@mikesmnell414 And where exactly did he do that?

@mikesmnell414

7 ай бұрын

@@leonfa259 Well, probably when he leaked their names and addresses. It’s in the files he released lmao.

They're trying to prosecute him because they are the wicked criminals themselves... Their acts are bogus trash.

USA does not like people telling the truth but seems to have a lot to say about china

@derunfassbarebielecki

Жыл бұрын

Assange literally worked with Russia to expose American agents, if it was just telling the truth, he would have been pardoned like Manning. Assange also isn't a journalist, hes just the owner of Wikileaks and owning a platform isnt work that can be called journalistic.

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

FREEDOM, am I right.

@NeergMit

9 ай бұрын

No nation likes the truth to be out. None. The power of leadership attracts selfish people and fanatics. Selfish people do selfish things. Fanatics do crazy things. How many nations don't find ways to cover up or distract people from the things that would offend or infuriate? How many nations don't claim to be right and honest? If you can find exceptions, call them out, then use "every other nation" when talking about the problem. Finger pointing just plays into their narrative about one side being "better" or more "right."

@ashleysmith7632

8 ай бұрын

It’s about causing a threat to people lives.

@rypdx

8 ай бұрын

That’s why China is better

Free this man NOW !!!! #JulianAssange

@LuthairLineage

3 ай бұрын

He committed a crime. A good crime, but a crime nonetheless.

How is it that a American court even has jurisdiction over 'crimes' committed outside America, by an Australian?

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

Maybe because it has to do with American documents. This may not be uncommon for countries to carry out enforcement action like this, such as with Thailand denying those who insult the monarchy abroad entry to the country.

I thought they say it's specifically because it was published and not redacted in a sensible way that wouldn't put agents at risk

@juanpepe1992

Жыл бұрын

They don't care that Agents would be at Risk ‐ Everyone has an Agenda...

@Lilib130

Жыл бұрын

It's untrue. They weren't agents but informants and no one was hurt at last.

I didn't realize that he published the names of informants. I wonder how many lives were lost due to his self righteous act? I've now changed my position on this whole matter. I hope he rots in jail.

Wait wait wait, don’t most journalists go to a lot of effort to make sure what they release is safe to release? Like we don’t want journalists releasing how to guides on how to enrich Uranium or make super viruses for obvious reasons. Well trained outfits seem to understand the rules to play by and do fine.

@paper2061

7 ай бұрын

Neither of those are as hard as they seem, it's having the resources to do it that's dangerous

@guydel7775

7 ай бұрын

You are absolutely correct he is going to jail because he leaked names and location (along with other classified intel) which put us lives in danger

@aldenpadilla1773

5 ай бұрын

​@@guydel7775 Oh no it put terrorist undercovers lives in danger 😢

@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell

3 ай бұрын

@@guydel7775 oh no, gotta help war criminals :crying:

Cool office, Indiana Jones vibes

Well explained. Thanks ❤❤❤

Thanks😊

War Thunder leakers: *start profusely sweating*

@datcheesecakeboi6745

8 ай бұрын

And they dont get arrested because shock horror the capabilities of a tank don't matter as much as a human life

@Pantsinabucket

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@datcheesecakeboi6745they do get arrested all the time stupid. The Chally 2 guy (he was released afaik because he’d faked the stats on the documents, but still lost his job), the DT10C-25 guy disappeared, and the leclerc guy also got court martialed. And they do matter as much as human life, especially for the humans inside those things. Hamas have been able to take out quite a few Merkavas due to smuggled Israeli documents showing them how close they have to fire RPGs to bypass the trophy systems.

By this way of thinking, those who cave the NY Times Watergate should have gone to jail ...

@punche5250

Жыл бұрын

Watergate didn’t put any federal agents at risk.

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

Julian Assange’s case has more to do with abuse of authority. Plus, I’m pretty sure that the government can’t exactly classify what the public already knows and the _Pentagon Papers_ case has placed limits on what authority can be used over classified information.

Citizens of the world should help Jullian Assange be free from the hands of a corrupt government.

"Don't journalists do this all the time?" NO!! They redact names and protect lives before publishing. They have integrity. That's the difference between Assange and a journalist

@denisdiderot6779

Жыл бұрын

I like how you brain dead bots are more outraged at the guy exposing the crimes and how he does it and not the actual crimes themselves. Yanks...

@tabularasa

Жыл бұрын

@@denisdiderot6779 You "like" something that is *false,* that you made up, that you created whole cloth via jumping to conclusions based on practically nothing, only a few words of my commentary... s l o w c l a p 👏 Are you looking for validation, congratulations, a cookie? (Sorry-- biscuit?) You won't ever find it if you keep up your current mode of operating... Everyone will keep turning their backs on you, rolling their eyes and shaking their heads, wondering when you will ever learn... And all you had to do to correct this was to stop and calmly ask me a couple of questions, to verify if your irate instincts were accurate... but you didn't. You just plowed ahead with your false assumptions and grievances carried over from some other past interaction... That's the way *children* behave-- because their prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed. Should I assume you are a child? Or perhaps just a man who never learned how to handle his emotions or engage with other humans properly... It's difficult for me to even engage with your actual words, because what you wrote is so inaccurate, and the way it was presented was so childish... Sad. Do my words sound like a "robot" to you? That seems to be the first trick of any bad guy in a community-- to dehumanize their perceived opponent. You failed.

@denisdiderot6779

Жыл бұрын

@@tabularasa ok

@XxCorvette1xX

Жыл бұрын

“Integrity” is protecting war criminals Lol okay bro nice

@tabularasa

Жыл бұрын

@@XxCorvette1xX You've clearly not studied this issue before

I can understand where publishing the names of current informants can put many people in danger, but when it comes to other information free speech is free speech. Gotta hold Uncle Sam accountable.

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

Uncle Sam was doing a little too much of his “Freedom” mission.

@aldenpadilla1773

5 ай бұрын

Oh no our terrorist spies might be in danger 😢. Gotta punish assange.

Please make another in depth video about assange

@IRosamelia

11 ай бұрын

YES!

@NeergMit

9 ай бұрын

And include ALL the facts. If you're going to include supposition, include the opposing views. Be a journalist.

The government often gives the worst reason for a conviction. The hacking and stealing part should be the main reason foe the conviction, that the least serious one. I think I heard about a case where someone is facing (or got convicted already, not sure) for more years for breaking into someone's house than for killing them.

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

I think how they got assange was they convicted him on trumped up charges of sexual harassment while he was in Sweden so the UK had evidence to take him in and ship him off to the United States

@EL-oj6uq

Жыл бұрын

He literally published military informants that their lives are now in risk how much are you gonna try and justify something

@luisshorts.

Жыл бұрын

@@EL-oj6uq they were covered and annonymus

@tonymouannes

Жыл бұрын

@@EL-oj6uq I just said they are using the wrong reason. They are expecting a foreigner located outside the us and not doing business with the us government, to abide by a us law. The person who gave him the information is the one that committed treason. I still don't agree with what he did and he leaked everything he got his hand on, regardless of the consequences. But the way the case is being legally handled is wrong.

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

@@luisshorts.they were, infact, not

Today's fact: The first film ever shown in the White House was The Birth of a Nation, a pro-white supremacy silent film that the KKK also used as a recruiting tool.

@17RedKnight

Жыл бұрын

This is cool to know cause it contrasts the showing the white house just had with the Emmet Till movie

@itsytyt5192

Жыл бұрын

Hhaa

@Trystero_

Жыл бұрын

Which was the direct request of Woodrow Wilson and that movie was still controversial even at the time

@shreyaskumarrath721

Жыл бұрын

Those goddamn anglo saxons

@wta1518

Жыл бұрын

@@Trystero_ Of course it was Wilson. He was the Reagan of the Democrats.

I made a whole video on this last year, "The Danger of Ignoring Julian Assange" kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmqWuM5tZ87Kfs4.html

How the heck do I find the first two parts KZread is not made well for this, please have more informative thumbnails

@POVShotgun

Жыл бұрын

Chill, this guy talks way too much shit he doesn’t know a thing about.

Welcome home to Australia, Julian. May you and your family have a wonderful and peaceful life ahead of you.

The result of the publishing is the issue not the publishing itself.

Good for you to talk about Assange. Free Assange.

Julian Assange is a Hero in my book.

Johnny you’re completely missing the point here. Respect lost on this one.

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

American laws cannot be applied to foreigners...

@henrydamiani1507

7 ай бұрын

Interesting

One thing though, if the documents have people that are in other countries giving information back to the government that could put their lives in danger if you release documents.

Hold on now, publishing a list of our military informants is a bad thing for our nation though. Compromising their identities may as well be compromising their lives

What about the names of those undercover that were outed and arrested/killed? He was complicit in that and could have chosen to redact that information

@Orchid_-

Жыл бұрын

My point exactly. Release all the damning stuff but don’t screw over thousands of innocents risking their lives to keep us informed.

@erolaattori2317

Жыл бұрын

@@Orchid_- Innocent is subjective. Imagine a U.S. citizen that has access to sensitive information and shares that with another countries intelligence agency, like the Chinese. Would that person be innocent too?

@LazarOrthodox04

Жыл бұрын

least obivious Fed

@zombiasnow15

9 ай бұрын

Whaa whaa

@blackmantis3130

8 ай бұрын

​@@Orchid_-no spy is innocent

And he wasn’t even from the US…

@EL-oj6uq

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he spied on the US..

@spelcheak

Жыл бұрын

Neither was Al-Qaeda, that’s not a free pass

@LemonsInTown

Жыл бұрын

@@spelcheakdo you research homie and you will find out who created and founded these terror organizations

@rickstube5299

11 ай бұрын

​@@spelcheakto what, expose the truth? Apparently war crimes should stay unkown.

@jamesbarbour8400

11 ай бұрын

That wouldn't matter. If someone broke into your house, would it matter if he was a white indigenous fellow, or an illegal immigrant fresh out of a dingy from across the channel ? The answer you're looking for is 'no'.

for leaking military informants names, which may have cost these people their lives..

#FreeAssange

Free Assange!!!

Helping him

Hi Johnny, don’t delete this comment again. Can you make a video apology about the Established Titles scam you (unwittingly I’m sure) helped promote? I’ll write in everything you post until you do!

@Apurvanotfound

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Masterworks is using same way to make you buy paintings.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

Жыл бұрын

Try getting a life

@RRonco

Жыл бұрын

Everyone knows established titles was a novelty gift, are you some kind of special nitwit in your village or is everyone like you

@homeslice6064

Жыл бұрын

A lot of KZreadrs unknowingly promote scam companies. Sometimes it’s just hard to tell which are real and which are fake. It’s not that big of a deal

@R0ots

Жыл бұрын

@@homeslice6064 Not a big deal? I’m confused. Someone like Johnny who’s a deep dive independent journalist, with millions of viewers per video should 100% care. This is about integrity and accountability.

But publishing the identities of informants puts their lives at risk. Didn't assange know this?? Journalists who jeopardize others lives need to be severely punished. That's not journalistic integrity, that's being an A-hole

@veritorossi

Жыл бұрын

What about the politicians and Military that commit crimes?

@anirprasadd

Жыл бұрын

@@veritorossi Yes, they surely must be punished and their deeds published. But not those of spies and informants. These people risk brutal torture. To expose their identities for some misplaced ideals is terrible.

@thomasherrin6798

Жыл бұрын

Yes Journalists who jeopardize others lives must be punished, he should have gone to Russia like his compatriot in crime, he escaped Rape in other countries, so he's not a "nice chap"!?!

@thomasherrin6798

Жыл бұрын

​@@veritorossi If they are found out they are punished!?!

@ehtuanK

Жыл бұрын

Weren't the names of the informants removed?

It's not just for publishing it, it's that he made a promise to publish in exchange for access. It is the difference between a uncoordinated and coordinated (illegal) leak.

A wonderful example of the dopeler (spelled correctly) effect. The effect of crapola sounding smart if it's coming at you fast enough.

IMO - he exposed corruption. I think history will see him as someone who tried to make a difference. When people of power who have something to hide are exposed - wrath always descends on the messenger. This is about power and corruption.

@nadlax5920

Жыл бұрын

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

He also has gotten innocent people killed too but ya know.

@junct

8 ай бұрын

​@@shadowninja8011After the release of an enormous haul of US defence department documents in August, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told the Washington Post: "We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the Wikileaks documents except he didn't

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

@@junct ya Ans you trust the government, there’s your first mistake. In reality any name the Taliban got that dudes head rolled We all saw how desperate the afghanis were trying to glee from them when the US were pulling out

@charliewiltshire7517

8 ай бұрын

@@junctThat doesn’t matter, he’s actively harmed the West in giving away top secret information directly to Russia and all of America’s enemies. You think this is a matter of freedom of speech? This isn’t something like corruption or evil this is AMERICA versus RUSSIA, China, NK, etc. How would this POSSIBLY help the American and West’s people? It doesn’t. There is no morality in showing this off. You’re trading America’s well-being for Russian ones.

The crime is not publishing, publishing military names is the crime.

@AcidiFy574

Жыл бұрын

No it isn't US has consistently committed war crimes

@obrokbobama6203

Жыл бұрын

It’s very clear that this isn’t why they are charging him

@redbark7770

Жыл бұрын

@@obrokbobama6203 But it is what they are sticking to. Like how they got Capone for tax evasion among all things.

@mcmarkmarkson7115

Жыл бұрын

Publishing crimes and anyone involved in said crimes is 100% legal for journalists to publish

Let him rot. He’s not a real journalist.

Free Assange! Protect free speech!

Fact is Assange didn't edit names, collaborators and allies that US government had working for them. Putting those life in danger. Big BIIG difference between Assange and a responsible journalist. Don't defend him dude

@1dgram

Жыл бұрын

I was going to comment the same. He should have redacted those names and addresses. He likely got people killed by letting that information get out there.

@ottovonbismarck7715

Жыл бұрын

So you're just going to excuse the hundreds of war crimes he exposed. The US killed millions and you're upset about assange killing a few

@sierra1513

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't have sold their souls to the US warmachine

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

@@sierra1513better than being ruled by terrorists

@hellishthehellrellish5672

8 ай бұрын

​@@sierra1513the Warmachine is based lol

Reminder that Assange also had dirt on Russia but never published that. That should tell you enough

@mcmarkmarkson7115

Жыл бұрын

Nice try

Free Julian Assange ❤

If the world allows Julian's extradition in the US it would means the end of REAL journalism 🙄🤦‍♀️🥺

Don't you have to be a US citizen/permanent resident to be seen as a whistleblower? Wont it always be seen as spying, if a person from outside the US steals classified information... I'm not sure he should be charged with espionage, but if you are from another country, and you try to break into sensitive information, from a country that is not your own, why would that not be spying? Isn't that the basic principle of spying.. If a Russian had been caught red handed doing the same thing, I'm not sure there would be the same uproar. I think it is hard to see him just as a publisher, when he took part in the hacking.

@mcmarkmarkson7115

Жыл бұрын

Well when US spied on the german counselor the spy just got a plane ticket 1st class. Super powers do whatever the fuck they want around the world. What can any nation do?

Are these comments actually government bots lol

@Pixelarter

Жыл бұрын

Probably there are government agents trying to manipulate public opinion in the comments to demonize Assange. If you notice there are several similar comments that try to justify arbitrary punishment to him, based on unproven claims that informants and agents where murdered due to non redacted names (there's only hearsay). Those are probably engineered arguments specifically tailored to demonize him and manipulate public opinion.

@sierra1513

Жыл бұрын

This is what Spending your life in the most propagandised country on earth does to a mf

He should be free

Truth the Hardest Pill to swallow.

If someone knew THE GUY ON THIS VIDEO'S name, published it and talked about him, this same guy would devolve to suing too.

Sharing the names of military informants is a big deal. That’s not OK. You’re on the wrong side of this one.

@ysbrand1114

Жыл бұрын

So killing those children and civilians is ok? They should be held accountable

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

You ever ask yourself why the US doesn't recognize the ICC?

Publishing classified data that puts lives at risk is serious.

love how it turns into oh this may affect freedom of speech when the issue is the assistance of publishing classified intel and helping engage in espionage

Obviously, no one talks about the fact that 175 years isn’t a prison sentence it makes me darkly laugh it’s a death sentence. No human being has ever lived for 175 years.

@LG-xg8fw

Жыл бұрын

That's not what death sentence means...

@aron666xparamor6

Жыл бұрын

@@LG-xg8fw if you can’t get the absurdity of 175 years prison sentence as a time to be served, I’m not going to explain it to you. he will die in prison, it’s an effective death sentence.

@darksecret965

Жыл бұрын

It's called a life sentence actually

@aron666xparamor6

Жыл бұрын

@@darksecret965 we have life sentences in the uk it’s normally 20-30 years. The Americans like everything big don’t they

@leachblah6313

Жыл бұрын

No. Death sentence means they will kill you, literally. Life sentence means sometime they change their mind during those years, freeing you completely.

Julian Assange is not a "journalist." He recklessly published documents that would jeopardize the lives of military informants and harm national security. Real journalists know how to evaluate the risks of publishing and how to redact identifying information before publishing in order to protect informants and assets. You can publish the story without publishing the actual document itself. You can work with real journalists to get the information to the public. But literally just releasing documents that would jeopardize human lives? He deserves his sentence.

@pedrocarmo1411

Жыл бұрын

When Snowden gave documents to the new York times, they failed to redact them correctly and left details about an NSA agent and a mission on Al-Qaida's branch operation, for what you name a reckless publishing of documents that harm national security there sure was a lacking response, weird that mainstream media doesn't have to go to jail when they don't redact their files, but actually it isn't weird, there is no legally definition of a journalist or any legal obligation to redact them, the only thing Assange did was the ultimate sin of being a nuisance to the US government without being a millionaire

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

Ask yourself why the US doesn't recognize the ICC? Why is it only China, Russia and the USA? To skirt accountability, America doesn't like foreign people exposing them, so reach out across the world and they want to try him in the USA. Those laws are for AMERICANS, not foreigners. Can you imagine if Canada did such a thing to you if you violated Canadian laws while being in the states? Would that be just?

@leonmat26

Жыл бұрын

So... Journalist must always curate information based on whose criteria? The government's? They should choose what can and can't affect national security? Based on whose opinion? The governments? That just sounds like journalist should only publish pro-government propaganda. After all, the good ol' government knows what's best for you and keeps you safe from all other info that could harm you. You are safer not knowing, just trust the government ❤

@castaway499

Жыл бұрын

@@leonmat26 There are safe channels for whistleblowers to flag wrongdoing. Irresponsibly releasing classified information without protections for informants is not one of them.

@sarnxero2628

Жыл бұрын

​@@castaway499 you glow 🌟🌟🌟

Honestly it depends on what the documents said, if it were records of warcrimes or secret deals the US did, good. If it were blueprints or locations of troops, bad.

Great to know Woodrow Wilson’s terrible laws are still in place.

@iJigarThakkar

Жыл бұрын

No that’s what US gov is all about, you know regime change in other. Countries, war crimes, wars for business ( oil businesses), corruption to the core ( insider trading) and money printing (legal counterfeiting) but…. You definitely not ask them about fixing medicare or end homelessness issues… They start screaming china and Russia… nato and Ukraine…

@iJigarThakkar

Жыл бұрын

No that’s what US gov is all about, you know regime change in other. Countries, war crimes, wars for business ( oil businesses), corruption to the core ( insider trading) and money printing (legal counterfeiting) but…. You definitely not ask them about fixing medicare or end homelessness issues… They start screaming china and Russia… nato and Ukraine…

Revealing identity of military informants should obviously be a crime. To frame this as "he could be punished for literally just publishing" is gross.

I love the fact that I hate and love this at the same time. Honesty hits differently depending on MY perspective. That is the definition of free speech!

I'm a little conservative at times, but FREE ASSANGE.

@sarahb4484

Жыл бұрын

@I am conservative at all time but Free Assange! No oppression to journalism.

@chris71873

Жыл бұрын

You want secret us documents leaked?

@nnass262

Жыл бұрын

​@@chris71873 who cares?

@lordbertox4056

Жыл бұрын

​@@chris71873yes? Especially if it proves war crimes?

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

Lock him up. He put people lives in danger no doubt some of them have been killed due to his actions. If you had a gang hunting you down because you informed on them, how would you feel if a news paper wrote your name down in the papers or on the news while doing an exposing piece on the police department This is the same situation

Dude. He endangered the lives of those agents.

@XxCorvette1xX

Жыл бұрын

No, those agents endangered their lives by doing war crimes and breaking international laws what the hell are you talking about

@StupidusMaximusTheFirst

Жыл бұрын

Yes, soooo many people all over the world really cared about all these atrocities wikileaks uncovered about Iraq... No-one gave a shit. Not one. At least from those that should. Also the US gov operates concentration camps for more than 20 years. Not even Hitler could keep Auschwitz that long. There are people who are illegally abducted from their countries and flown there, and not only other countries did not give a shit, but many of those countries ( yes, European countries, including mine) have helped with those arrests or helped those flights when asked. They also said thank you when the US killed a few of their own for fun, or waved american flags just as they did so. So, I'm not sure what names you are referring to.. some of these events were televised, these people are well known, like the Shock & Awe Rumsfeld, Tomahawk Peace Prize Obama, and of course Bush... even the name Bush.... These people are well known for decades. There haven't been any issues whatsoever, politicians still travel to the US, just to be thoroughly searched at the airport, and US politicians still travel to other countries to either kill them or have them do their bidding. So what are you on about? What 'agents' are you referring to? I think you've watched too many movies, just as some mil idiots have. The word agent in this context is a joke. Agent of what? I know a few of those 'agents' in my country, they are certainly not in danger. They have killed people, they sold out the place, some even brought whole shiploads of drugs. They are everywhere, in the police, in the justice department and courts, in the parliament, in the army, everywhere you look. They're all safe. Some of them are well known as well, and not because of wikileaks. So...?

@emistar288

Жыл бұрын

​@@XxCorvette1xX 👏👏Exactly

@Ares47144

Жыл бұрын

So you're terrorist supporter? Guised as agents...

@NutellaCrepe

Жыл бұрын

@@XxCorvette1xX They were not tried and convicted at the time. If you want to throw out due process and just want to see reactionary killings based on accusations, then sure. Redacting names to keep them alive doesn’t mean exonerating them for whatever they did, it just means they can be properly tried once they’ve been extracted. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not the other way around. Go start your own dictatorship if you disagree.

Guilty as you just proved!

The difference between journalism and what he did, was journalists don’t indiscriminately data dump and will look to protect people from getting hurt by the information.

#freeassangenow

@Ares47144

Жыл бұрын

It's funny how many fascists and war criminal supporters are against assange. Public casts the vote, if they truly decide who governs them then they need to know what ppl incharge do

This should have much more views and likes than it does - your rights are being affected, this is important. It will set a PRECEDENT, and that's not just a cliche saying, that's literally how the law works - if there's a similar case in the past that was handled a specific way, they use that case as a PRECEDENT to determine the current one, so any time a secret government source leaks info to a journalist (even if the info shows that the government was BREAKING THE LAW, like in Snowden's case) and that journalist publishes it, they will be liable for espionage. This is crazy! Believe it or not, a vast majority of the law is just precedents, not written rules, so this is very important.

So, much for Freedom of Press...

I was on his side, until I found out about the way informants were outed. Reasonable journalists would show a little respect for their flag, and for the terrifying experience these people had to endure. I wonder how many were thrown out of windows, how many saw their families murdered. The world is a nasty place.

@davilox07_15

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@TheShounak

Жыл бұрын

Then demand greater protection and accountability from your government before they decide to send people to die to protect corporate interests.

@zenxel

Жыл бұрын

I think you should hate the people who would harm informants more than Julian

@spelunkerd

Жыл бұрын

@@zenxel Of course, as do many insiders hiding inside totalitarian governments everywhere. Those vulnerable whistleblowers put their lives on the line for what is right, trusting Americans to use the information wisely and to not expose them to unnecessary risk. Imagine the horror on discovery that their trust is misplaced. A strange clerk within the American military releases names of informants, dates, and critical details that only a few people would have access to. Instead of protecting those people, Assange just copies the raw data and sends it to all. You can bet that every piece of info coming out of Wikileaks is combed over by tyrannical governments, with threat of death to anybody (and their families) who dare speak up. Assange's irresponsible journalism has caused a chill by whistleblowers, everywhere. Is that chill consistent with the theme of exposing wrongdoing?

@_sol.invictus__

Жыл бұрын

What flag? He's not American. Read more.

Free Julian Assange

Good

Bro made the wrong move by not redacting the names and moreover those files were evrywhre,he no longer had the monopoly.Overall,Wikileaks was just a small organisation.A fly fighting in a giant web.

There is not such thing as free jounalism. This is the exibith

What about all the lives of intelligence agents he knowingly and deliberately put in danger?

Free Julian Assange !💔

its a crime if theyre national secrets, assange is wrong, then right, then wrong

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

He's not American, those are American laws for people who are in the states. Do you understand how this is going to work? No one is safe from the USA if he is extradited to the USA. Ask yourself why Russia, China and the US does not recognize the ICC?

@EL-oj6uq

Жыл бұрын

​@@KyleRugglesNo he is a straight up spy.. american spies in the USSR were imprisoned and this guy put the lives of military informants at risk

Free Assange. They essentially did not endanger anyone as revealed in the Manning trialo.

Its criminal what they are doing this poor man. The ones that did the crimes that where exposed need to go to jail for the rest of their lives

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

But he was in an authority to protect classified information. What else could he leak?

I love that you called 5 years small potatoes like you would last 5 hours. That lack of awareness is work a subscribe.

Do journalists point out inherent flaws in a government, yes. Do they point out specific people and make them a target for retribution? NO! That's where he crossed the line, how many peoples lives were endangered "just for publishing." That makes him no better than the governments everyone hate so much.

@Ares47144

Жыл бұрын

Nah he just revealed the names of war criminals. Public deserve to know what's happening behind the doors.

@QTwoSix

Жыл бұрын

Glowie

He did not publish "nothing". He published the names of CIA operatives putting them, and their families at risk. He deserves 500 years.

@henrydamiani1507

7 ай бұрын

Well i dont trust them , now i know who to becareful from.😂

@keko7198

6 ай бұрын

Found the CIA operative guys

@pickleslatour4543

6 ай бұрын

"Found"? Came across in confidential, stolen, US government documents. Almost forgot... released names, putting the operatives and their families at risk.

@aldenpadilla1773

5 ай бұрын

Oh no terrorist cia undercovers are at risk 😢

America : you got no toilets Me : Freedom of speech?

Repeal that act now

Assange is a Hero in my eyes. Standing against evil forces within US government all alone what a Man.

You got my old school map behind you. Why on earth do you have a Greek map? 😮

Im from Greenland 🇬🇱 illit pigoritutit (you so smart)

what she did was a matter of national security, now every undercover agent is in danger because of her actions and she should get the murder charges for each agent killed because of her. also, because she did that now a lot of people that are drug lords and criminal drug runners now won’t be able to be put in prison

When injustice becomes law - revolution becomes necessary- FREE ASSANGE NOW!!

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

But what else could he leak? What if he leaks nuclear launch codes or something of that nature?

@Cabezadepollanegro

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@aycc-nbh7289your analogy is going off an extreme situation which opposes the goals and ideals of wiki leaks. Now what would he gain from leaking launch codes except for making everything worse? Would it help the public see the dark side of government?.

I'm sorry. Are we really getting fucking mad over this??? HE ENDANGERED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE!!! HE COULD HAVE AND STILL COULD GET SOMEONE KILLED!! DO NONE OF YOU PEOPLE CARE THAT HE HELPED SOMEONE AND LIKELY GOT PEOPLE KILLED.

Many of the people mentioning free speech here, know nothing about it. The only way his speech wasn't protected is if he had made deliberate attempts to hurt people. I.e planning to murder them. Similarly to yelling Fire in a theater to cause panic. But if you yell Fire without the intent to cause panic (you genuinely believed there was a fire, you were acting on stage, you were complementing the piece as being 'FIRE!') then it is protected speech. So the question is, was he simply negligent or did he plan to murder them? Because all of you seem to agree he didn't go and plan to murder them. His reveal just had the side effect of putting their lives at higher risk. In which case his speech is almost certainly protected.

@Ymylock

Жыл бұрын

“Hmm let me post the names of government informants and possibly start a global diplomatic crisis, what could go wrong?”

@AcidiFy574

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ymylock you mean war criminals US has no enemies/threats

@shadowninja8011

8 ай бұрын

He had the plan to underline the US, the fallout of which causes death, so yes there was exact intent to put these people in the crosshairs. He didn’t care if they were arrested, killed, or if they managed to flee.

Bro it’s a crime because by publishing informants names, he puts them in serious danger.

@mcmarkmarkson7115

Жыл бұрын

Not if the informants commit crime, that's the risk spy agents take if they operate outside the law. This is not about any lawbreaking, this is nothing but the USA showing to other journalists what happens if they act out.

They should amend the publishing charge to make it permissible to be charged for murder of applicable degree if informants go MIA or KIA. Everything else is an absurd punishment which absolutely infringes on the first amendment.