Come take lessons with me at: www.the-art-of-guitar.com

@TheAgentAssassin

Жыл бұрын

Damn dude I think perhaps your the first to figure this out.

@georgecornwell7706

10 ай бұрын

Brilliant stuff. Thanks for sharing!!!

Not only did Randy play different notes on different takes. He also played the solos differently live.

@todddavis4274

3 жыл бұрын

Chaz...you are exactly right. That's obvious. But all of it worked perfectly, IMO. Randy is my favorite and Dime is second. Those types of players can never be completely figured out because when it all comes down, it's in the hands, emotions and personality.

@tobi_versace

3 жыл бұрын

I've never seen any guitar player play their solos live the way it is on the album. Slash never plays the album version live

@NowaboMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Solos are typically improvised.

@Kikan319

3 жыл бұрын

Randy was the Prince of 80's metal.

@TheZenytram

3 жыл бұрын

bc is borring and the musicians had already heard it 500 thousand more time than everybody else

what are you, some kinda rhoads scholar?

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha!!!

@yoursweatersux

3 жыл бұрын

This is some top tier punnery.

@edgardaniels1402

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar That was funny, but no kidding, I never knew this, but now that I do, it makes total sense. I’m a crap house rhythm acoustic player, been playing for years and that’s put me next to a bunch of guys that have driven themselves crazy trying to replicate Randy. Awesome video and explanation!

@wades2132

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god Jaysus.

@georgegriffith7263

3 жыл бұрын

This is a Rocket Scientist showing off

Max Norman has said Randy actually triple tracked his solos. in addition to being an all time A leaguer, he was incredibly precise and could replicate his solos in just a few takes. Randy did not play the songs live the way he did in the studio, in fact at the famous guitar clinic he died shortly before he died, he could not remember exactly how he played the solo on the album and chorus since he had changed it so much live.

@sooparticular

10 ай бұрын

yes. alot of pros cant remember exactly how they played something

@michael1

2 ай бұрын

Dying shortly before you die - one of the worst ways to go

I think if you’re learning a Randy solo, and you’re getting down to this level of detail, it’s fair to say that you’ve already mastered it.

@chrishill5919

2 жыл бұрын

I wish.. lol

@numbers7889

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I literally know how to play it but I’m trying to play it NOTE FOR NOTE! If you pay attention to detail it’s so interesting to play it afterwards

@Freddie-Stinkler

11 ай бұрын

​@@numbers7889tool

My new excuse for not being able to play fast is “copyright reasons.” 😄

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Haha. Well try uploading Ozzy songs and see if you change your mind. Sharon’s on that stuff man. 🤣

@madsam7582

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar The Demon Cow cometh!

@HCkev

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar that's sad, this definitely falls under fair use, but yeah, can't take the risk to have the video taken down and waste some precious time trying to dispute the claim

@angelotro

3 жыл бұрын

I might use that excuse for everything I don't do perfectly: "hey, I don't wanna get sued, man!".

@impalaSS65

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar She is definitelly the Yoko of Sabbath.

I always knew that the solo was double tracked but never realized that some of the notes were different. I always thought he was just off on timing by a few milliseconds. thanks for bringing it to my attention

@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist

3 жыл бұрын

Me too.

@mikem1006

3 жыл бұрын

Me three.

@Wingchun83

3 жыл бұрын

4 sure

@mad234luiz

3 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine if that was the case. I would go crazy trying to time it

@arloroan3168

2 жыл бұрын

He was human and they used tape. Either on purpose or a happy accident. What does it really matter? It turned out pretty swell.

Randy was a perfectionist. You can be assured what you hear on the recording is EXACTLY what he approved.

@lelandwittjr1883

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly he was classically trained so he knew what he was doing and how it would sound together

@DanMarcelino

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t be so sure. Those guys were so high they didn’t know up from down most of the time. Some of the beauty of music however is the perfection in imperfection. They were most definitely mistakes, that they listen back to and say.. shit that sounds great and really works. This is extremely common in tracking records.

@guidemeChrist

3 жыл бұрын

You can be "a perfectionist" and still suck, case in point

@IGrocker

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanMarcelino not Randy, he smoked and drank, but was known for being professional in the studio. He wasn’t one for Ozzy’s crazy lifestyle and was contemplating leaving the band after the Diary tour concluded.

@Kado_Tornado

3 жыл бұрын

Lol no

Just hit a million views on this one. Thanks to all of you who watched it.

@collintaylor3705

2 жыл бұрын

Well here’s another view😀

@MancoBlanco

2 жыл бұрын

Well done

@RevStein

2 жыл бұрын

idk why yt recomended me this, but I loved

@notjackson9821

2 жыл бұрын

yea man of course

@stereorifles3191

2 жыл бұрын

excellent video bro. since I have learned theory I have really come to love accenting with different degrees of the key to create solid/sweet/ dissonant tones depending on the song.

lmao "Randy never makes a mistake", reminds me of his live 'Dee' performance, where he messes up a bit and says "It's not as easy as it looks" lmao

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, as a guitar player I have to follow certain laws of guitar protocol. 🤣🤣🤣

@romichaelo

3 жыл бұрын

lol, the studio out takes of 'Dee' from the end of 'Tribute' album, "ooops"

@ChrisMikeGR

3 жыл бұрын

I used to play Dee and it certainly isn't as easy as it sounds. Once you master it though, oh, the feeling of accomplishment... I haven't played guitar professionally for 20 years and oh boy I miss what I used to be able to play back then. Randy, what an untimely death :(

@smokerx893

3 жыл бұрын

@@romichaelo i knew what ya meant :)

@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle

3 жыл бұрын

A Randy Rhoads mistake is the equivalent of someone else playing near perfectly

Are we not gonna address how great his guitar tone is...? 💯💯

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

ENGL

@MegaNancyLover

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds so close to the official track except somehow modernized!

@EddieJarnowski

3 жыл бұрын

Randy's or his? I was thinking wow that gibson has the best tone i've ever heard. What is that? Please tell us.

@bingobongo1615

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar could you Link to your rig maybe under your videos or here? I think you made people really curious here^^

@randyblack5942

3 жыл бұрын

Good point randy had that classic metal tone

I could be wrong, but I think Randy did this to create a dissonant sound that’s reminiscent of a freight train. It’s heavy and has that unstoppable and unpredictable vibe. it fits the idea of the song perfectly. Randy goes for the same kind of freight train ambience at the very beginning as screaches into his first riff. On purpose? Yes. And I’ll tell you why. It’s easy enough to say the descending 3 notes in the solo were played differently by accident.. But that repeating pull off run that follows show he’s absolutely relying on a whole different pattern. And in total that goes on for more than a full bar. that’s on TOP of loose overdubs. He’s literally taking the solo off the rails by varying it right in our faces. I bet Ozzy never even noticed any of this lol.

If you look into Randys musical education history you'll see there's no way the differences in the solo tracks are accidental or mistakes. He was that good.

@chiefgoose8682

3 жыл бұрын

He truly was. His musical brain was such a sponge and really absorbed everything in a masterful way. His classical guitar background/lessons ( in which was continuously ongoing) showed so much in his playing and was getting better so fast. He was just getting started of what he could’ve achieved if his life wasn’t cut short. Much respect to Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan, SRV is probably my favorite guitarist of all time if I was forced to pick just one. With that said if I had a choice between them three guitarist to have not died too soon I’d pick Randy just because he had so much more to prove and to achieve as a guitar player. As I felt Hendrix and SRV had pretty much peeked in playing and writing ability in comparison to Randy....if that makes sense lol idk just my opinion. Don’t misunderstand...I’m not comparing the three in a way of whom was “better”, that would be stupid as they all had different styles

@matsumoku1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. But the real question is why do dissonant notes sound like harmonies. If you tried to play them together they don't sound good. How can that happen.

@jeco2512

3 жыл бұрын

@@matsumoku1 It might be creating an auditory illusion like a binaural beat.

@jerff

3 жыл бұрын

@@matsumoku1 tension > release. The key is context. See: Jazz

@jerff

3 жыл бұрын

While I’m sure the different parts were intentional...I’m not unconvinced that the reason they ended up together was because of an engineer muting the wrong track and then everyone jus went “hey that’s cool!”

I learned about this from dimebag, he was talking about how he doubled his tracks and tweaked each track a bit to give it that tone. He even said he learned these tricks from Randy. RIP to both legends!

When I was in senior year of highschool I couldn’t sleep because of the prescription pain killers I was prescribed and I stayed up all night and learned the entire solo perfectly. I was so excited. I finally fell asleep for 1-2 hours before class and when I woke up I was no longer able to play the solo perfectly.

@kingsxkids

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a nice dream🙂

@sammyraie98

3 жыл бұрын

state-dependent memory example. nice.

@Anders2112

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe if you slept for 7-8 hours you would internalize it and remember it. Interesting.

@sugarnads

2 жыл бұрын

Or you were actually asleep and dreamt it

@MintyDreams

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingsxkids It's not that unbelievable

TAoG: "Isn't it interesting how dissonance can sound good in the context of the solo" Literally all of Jazz Music: "Am I a joke to you?"

@garymiller7880

3 жыл бұрын

Ani Difranco: "hold my beer..."

@tsuukkii

3 жыл бұрын

ravel: dissonant melodies intensifies

@thed3m0n0id9

2 жыл бұрын

Most of extreme metal arches an eyebrow xD

@throwawayidiot6451

2 жыл бұрын

Anything with heavy distortion in equal tempered instruments is dissonant in the harmonic series of single notes, even if the melody/chords aren't theoretically dissonant.

@TheLucidDreamer12

2 жыл бұрын

This is neoclassical, which is what makes gjis surprising. Classical and neoclassical are all about precision, meaning this is incredibly unusual

THAT WAS FREAKIN AWESOME!! Randy was a true musical genius!! Light years ahead of his time.

@mp29643

2 жыл бұрын

Light year is a measure of distance.

@BobK5

2 жыл бұрын

@@mp29643 distance in time

@Fartsnack

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobK5 No he's right. It's distance. The distance light travels in a vacuum over the course of a year.

@davidrockey7190

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely you heard that also Good. 🌽

@nicreven

Жыл бұрын

@@Fartsnack okay but you can say that you live three hours away from something, despite that being a measure of time maybe they're just trying to say that he was lightyears ahead as in "miles ahead" and not as in "years ahead"?

I think Randy realized that the passage of dissonance was so brief that he could get away with it creatively, or he actually played the solo twice two different ways that happened to be really close, and the engineer in the room and Ozzy Osbourne thought it sounded great with the two different versions of the solo together.

@rist98

3 жыл бұрын

there are a huge lot of "happy accidents" in that whole recording. its part of the aesthetic. I suspect they weren't perfectly planned out, but in fact were quite accidental, or at least, done without much thought behind it. it just has that kind of sound to it. I know intentional when I hear it. I know "a lil off the rails" when i hear it. this is prolly the latter, and obviously it totally fits.

@rubievale

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's definitely a "close enough" moment and not a deliberate choice of dissonant notes. If you're in the moment, tracking solos, it's not always easy to simply play exactly the same thing twice. Studio time is expensive, hella expensive, and there's often serious time pressure so I suspect this was close enough and they liked the vibe, and the vibe is the most important thing

@j_freed

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, a "happy accident" but One that takes a lot of training and practice as a musician. You can tell that Randy planned the solo like a little composition, and he's really in the pocket as far as timing.

@j_freed

3 жыл бұрын

Recording music really is about the performance and the vibe. #1 priority

@JRRoss-vx1ni

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and I think they might not even have noticed it. I sure didn't. There were probably a bunch of different takes and those were just the 2 that sounded the best to them.

When I was learning how to play Crazy Train, I was told I was better off learning the solo from the live version because it is almost impossible to make studio version's solo sound right. I was a teenager at the time, so I just took the person who told me this at his word and never asked why. Great job figuring out such a small, but very interesting, detail. Thank you for sharing.

@ThotSticks

3 жыл бұрын

P

@ZakEdwardsOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

His Live playing was much more who he was than those studio takes. The Tribute album truly shows where those solo's would have been, had they given Randy the time to work them through.

@ryanbarker3978

3 жыл бұрын

This is generally good guidance for music from the mid 70's onwards. Post production got more and more complex from this point onward, so it's very difficult to match studio tracks exactly when you are one person playing one guitar by yourself. A significant number of classic rock and hairspray tunes are double tracked; many of them with two different harmonies.

When you push dissonant notes through one signal, you get that sharp contrast that almost muddles the notes together. But, when separated by recording over each other, they both come through clear, even if both signals are centered in a recording. Even in high gain, they ring clear. But like I said, if playing dissonance through a single signal (especially with higher gain), it becomes muddled.

When you don’t play guitar but still watched the whole thing.

@deanwilliams534

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's rr

This video is a testament to all the little things the great guitar players did! They really were out of this world Thanks for the great video Mike!

Another trick I noticed that Randy did when double and triple tracking his solos. YES, he triple tracked some solos. What I noticed is on one track he'll do a half step hammer-on and on the other track he'll bend the note up a half step. (For the uninitiated, Randy could repeat note for note even his most complex solos multiple times which would flabbergast recording engineers who'd never seen Randy play.)

@Uqinue

3 жыл бұрын

That’s dope af

@georgeparkins777

3 жыл бұрын

Triple tracking isn't that weird. Even Jimmy Page did it... Nobody's Fault has somewhat fast triple-tracking in the intro.

So this is Randy telling us, teaching us that you can screw around with the Melodies all day, and it will sound interesting, as long as it is parallel

@5roundsrapid263

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of bands have done that. The Beatles and Beach Boys had songs in two or three keys at once! It worked, so they recorded it.

@josephrobichaud2852

2 жыл бұрын

@@5roundsrapid263 the Beatles were famous for making chord sounds with their instruments and voices… you play this note, I play this note, we sing these notes like this and it would be a wall of chord tones layered together… genius.

I went back and listened to the original and I can’t unhear it

When you played the D and the E at the same time my first thought was "sounds like a choo choo train horn." New unintended level of genius unlocked in this solo.

@davidcook8323

2 жыл бұрын

I've always heard that train whistle tone in the song since highschool. I would think that is no accident, not with Randy. Geniuses indeed...

When you record a track twice (L + R) so tightly it becomes mono again.

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Big mono!

@metalriffsfunthrash4129

3 жыл бұрын

No, because you put them just slightly off time so it has stereo separation, micro-delay, big wall of sound and can even be done with a single take copy/pasted, panned and EQ'd different per side and sound YUGE!!!

@cynaminstick6693

3 жыл бұрын

heh, that is like throwing two darts and hitting the exact same spot! It's not realistically possible when you get down to nano-seconds

@gmsmithucdavisedu

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar I as pretty impressed by how close the two versions were. But it is fuller sounding than mono.

@leaveitorsinkit242

3 жыл бұрын

Not if you record different takes. The subtle difference in both parts will widen the sound.

I don't think that Randy played anything by mistake on those solos. I think that he had every intention with his notes.

@jgmiller804

3 жыл бұрын

Its possible he ran both tracks down, realized he changed it a little, but they just ended up liking how it sounded in the mix.

@hardballget

3 жыл бұрын

100% deliberate, many recorded this method, highway star solo Ritchie Blackmore e.g..

@mariokarter13

3 жыл бұрын

Like the two takes are trains, and where they diverge it goes off the rails.

@Donovanhal

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was trying different things and they just took the tracks that sounded cool together. If you listen to the bootlegs, he plays this solo different all the time.

@conniethesconnie

3 жыл бұрын

If they wanted the exact same thing played twice why have a second take? Just double the original.

Dissonance is a reason Korn is my favorite band. They use it so often with the guitars.

@miahthorpatrick1013

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking of KoRn when he was talking about those dissonant notes!

@mariokarter13

3 жыл бұрын

If you do it once it's a mistake. If you repeat it it's music.

@thewobblywelder8362

3 жыл бұрын

Korn sucks

@Myrkskog

3 жыл бұрын

Hail Sithis!

@A7xeno

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewobblywelder8362 Then don't listen to them lmao

Same reason I don't sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir when I sing by myself.

@MichaelMaxwell747

3 жыл бұрын

But you should hear how it sounds in my head! I am bad at singing.

Pretty sure he intended that sound. The art of using dissonance is about resolving it as part of the phrase. Balanced over a moving base line you get a wonderful expansion of tonal color beyond the overly common power 5ths. The guy was adventurous - more power to him.

@garydarland5259

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely could not agree more. If he made a change it wasn't technical error or hitting a "wrong" note it was artistic process.

@rbarnes4076

3 жыл бұрын

@@garydarland5259 No question at all that what you are saying is true. Classical composers discovered this in the late 19th and early 20th century. Best example is Rachmaninov. His music sounds incredible.. but what he is presenting to our ears, played slowly, is more dissonant that you would expect.

@iel69burner

2 жыл бұрын

It can be many things... as a musician myself, a personally don't think that he made a "mistake" or even that he made it on purpose. Maybe he just played it different cause he forgot it lol but when he listened to it was like "heyy this is different but actually sounds good" or just didn't mind it so much and let it be

I never noticed it but it sounds so amazing, it's a little unnoticeable detail but it adds so much to the solo.

@CharlesLeftwich

Жыл бұрын

Friggin hilarious!!

just picked up my guitar again after 5 years after 're discovering' Randy, and found this channel recently, love this channel, keep up the great videos!

He actually has triple takes in this solo, one hard left, one hard right, and one in the middle.

@Dastardly_X

3 жыл бұрын

🌟

@rapid13

3 жыл бұрын

Not according to Bob Daisley. Randy recorded with 3 mics: close, middle distance, and farther from amp. It was analog delay.

@jmadventures9830

3 жыл бұрын

that's true, I wish he'd acknowledge that!!!

@taunokekkonen5733

3 жыл бұрын

Actually there are 5. On top of what you said, there is a mandolin panning left and right, and a sitar in the middle.

@Frip36

3 жыл бұрын

@Dog Supremacy Ozzy only has 2 good albums so that's not saying much.

I swear we lost Randy too soon. Him and Dave Mustaine are the reason I got into and play V shape guitars.

@jaded9234

3 жыл бұрын

For me, it was Randy and Kirk Hammett. Neo-classical was always my preferred style and main influence, Randy is the "second step" in that evolution after Ritchie Blackmore(who pretty much picked up the Metal/Rock star gauntlet after Paganini dropped it a couple centuries earlier. Metallica overall is perhaps my earliest and, if I'm being honest, most critical influence, "Ride the Lightning" is my favorite Metallica album and Kirk was playing a black V quite heavily during that time. Then, years later, I discovered Children of Bodom with Alexi Laiho (childhood violinist turned neo-classical shredder and singer, RIP). He played a modified "Mustaine" signature that he modified further into his own signature. The most famous one is perhaps the one with a yellow Jacket-style black with a yellow stripe lining it.

@nicolasarbogast2739

3 жыл бұрын

Mustain himself influenced by Michael Schenker

@jfo3000

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaded9234 I'm a big Alexi fan too...I think his signature models are definitely altered Rhoads body shapes.

@Thecoolman1

3 жыл бұрын

Angus made me play the SG

@albinospino3089

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolasarbogast2739 Schenker is dope.

So nice to see this being given this much attention. We had just formed our first band when this was released and fell in love with it. Thank you for sharing your talent and good taste with us :D

Amazing breakdown! I NEVER realized that all these years I've listened to that solo. Well done dude!

Randy was a music teacher like his Mother. He was planning on leaving Ozzie to improve his guitar playing to study advanced Spanish Guitar. So he did everything on purpose.

Wow, I am not a guitarist but a great Randy fan and this was really interesting. What surprised me most that I could actually hear The Thing in the version 3. Great video!

As a guitarist for many years, this is one of the most interesting youtube videos I've ever watched. I loved every bit of it! Your insight into why Randy's solos have such a distinct sound that is so hard to replicate even when you play all the notes correctly was fascinating. (I knew he double tracked but was not aware he played slightly different notes on each track.) Just the fact that you cared about it enough to figure all this out and then go into so much detail to explain it, and do such a great job explaining it clearly is so impressive to me. Awesome job!

@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle

10 ай бұрын

he actually triple tracked...and each solo was slightly different

the most I hear and learn about Randy, the more it makes me respect him more, great video! very useful

Thank you for confirming we weren't going crazy all these years. I always thought it sounded like two guitars on the album, but having gone to 2 concerts on that tour I knew Randy was the only guitarist. I had thought maybe they used an extra studio guitarist but him double tracking makes much more sense. Thanks!!!

@dojyr3130

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the majority of guitar parts are double tracked

It's strange to me how these videos can be demonetized when in reality it will only generate more revenue for the artists since listeners (especially new listeners) will go back to listen to the actual tracks.

@Jonathan_Doe_

3 жыл бұрын

They claim the songwriting credits from the song being used in the video, the moneys still happening, it’s just ending up in a major record labels pocket.

@stevecarter8810

3 жыл бұрын

It has nothing at all to do with the artists, and everything to do with the publishers (copyright holders). If the copyright holders are like the plantation owners, the artists are like the cotton plants.

Never knew that he played different parts on those double and triple-tracked takes myself. I never dug into Randy's playing that deep to root those solos out like you did. The best aspect of channels like this is you've taken the time to do just that and then take even more time to explain it via a video. Nice job and well done.

It sounds so cool. Definitely enforces the “crazy” theme of the song.

Sometimes it's hard to reproduce something you do in the moment. Sometimes you just play what you feel, and then when you listen back you wonder how did you just play that?

@tritontransport

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah spot on! Al Pitrelli another great guitar player from this era who played for Alice Cooper , megadeth, savatage and now Trans Siberian orchestra of course. He said he plays the solos slightly different every time he plays

I wonder if Ozzy inspired him to do it or Iommi himself since he also doubled his solos

@johnc1963

3 жыл бұрын

I just read a comment by you on Carl Brown’s Classical Gas tutorial.

@skateup2291

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah there was others in his time that also double tracked solos but randy was definitely the best at it. This song is a great example.

@jacksongatens2419

3 жыл бұрын

Iommi is the master of doubles solos imo, sometimes even a third track on top

@desensitizedtv9862

3 жыл бұрын

Randy was not a fan of Black Sabbath, according to those who knew him. He was not initially interested in playing for Ozzy.

@TheOnlyHollywood1

3 жыл бұрын

No Randy hated Black Sabbath. He thought they were goofy

I love this video. Nothing captures my interest more than when a person goes obsessively in-depth on a very specific topic. I've never even tried to play the crazy train solo (and I wouldn't be able to because I suck), but just the fact that you've dedicated so much time to understanding every little nuance of it is absolutely fascinating to me.

Randy knew what he was doing. He's an artist.

omg that is sooo the key to his sound, always felt was more a harmonic anomaly but must have been intentional cuz conjures up super spooky feelings thanks for the great insight!!

Awesome job!!!

Awesome video dude. I didn't want it to end!

Super stoked you mentioned Iommi and his double tracking technique of playing two separate solos. When I discovered this years back it totally changed my approach to recording.

I learned the solo for a cover version for a friend of mine many years ago and It was then that I learned about that “double tracking solo” shtick. It really did make a difference!

There are SOOO many solos I love that just can't be done in a satisfactory way without double tracking. One of the saddest things to me is hearing a banger solo then trying to break it down and realizing.. shit.. this is like 3 different guitar tracks..

So this is amazing. I never knew this info. Went back and listened to every track. The solo in 'You can't kill rock and roll' is right in your face, never picked up on until now.

brilliant! one of my all time fav tunes and i realllllllllllly appreciate the methodical way you teach and share and play

I've always heard and I thought producer Max Norman confirmed Randy triple tracking most of his solos.

@aryinc

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, could also be offset tough. each track duplicated but offset 1ms on each track. thats also an option.

@kschantz

3 жыл бұрын

From what I remember, he triple tracked his rhythm parts. I guess he could have triple tracked his lead solos too. Maybe the third track was at a slightly lower volume to fill in empty space and give it a fuller sound.

@kschantz

3 жыл бұрын

@@aryinc that's sort of what a stereo chorus does. I used a stereo chorus output to a Marshall DSL100HR and a Peavey Butcher. The sound was incredible. I've been chasing the Dragon on that setup, mostly for lack of space to have two stacks setup all the time.

@highspeedsuicide

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. You can hear it a lot for sure. I just thought it was picking two strings for two dissonant notes

@aryinc

3 жыл бұрын

@@kschantz I believe he triple tracked them. It is time consuming but possible.

I love hearing about these cool recording techniques that good artists use

I actually sat down and transcribed this entire song from start to finish and was completely blown away by how many tiny details and nuances there are in all of the parts of this song. He makes so many little adjustments on subsequent repeats of certain riffs, and the solo, well.... I noticed a bunch of stuff in the solo that I'd never heard before and there was still stuff you mentioned in this video that I didn't catch!

Randy is my favorite guitarist. I think he's criminally underrated, and he was an amazing live performer.

I discovered the double-tracking by accident when I was in college after I dropped my Walkman and noticed some of the tracks had dropped out (until the next time I dropped it, or maybe gave it a good thwomp) 😀

Now that I’ve listened to it I’ve come to realize I have ALWAYS heard the anomaly but never paid it any mind. Not only can you hear different notes but you can tell he played the second take ever so lightly slower too. They aren’t quite lined up perfectly and that in and of itself makes it even better!

Awesome video. I knew I heard something different in those solos and been hearing them for years and then some.

This was great! Randy was who inspired me to get into technical playing 15 odd years ago

I feel like I play this solo a different way every time I attempt it

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently so did he. :)

@Disciple_Of_Lerxst

3 жыл бұрын

I have the same issue. Everything I play it contains completely different notes, different temp, different phrasing, different melody even...I think it's because I really can't play that solo

@willroland9811

3 жыл бұрын

You guys should check out Shadow's Fall and thier cover of this song. I, and few others I've played it for, think the lead there is about as tight as it gets. Everybody winds up bug eyed at the end after the closing run. Somebody said something about eating Randy's lunch? That's a bit far for me, but he definitely did a great job....

Without earbuds sitting outside with wind blowing around listening to this on my phone I could hear the difference that is amazing.

You did a good job making this video It's gonna save a bunch of people a lot of time trying to figure it out on there own

This was fantastic thanks for taking the time and sharing this !

I’ve had pretty good luck using the “Mimic” pedal, while not a perfect solution it does well in a live situation. Great breakdown of this iconic solo. Thank you

@TheArtofGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

I had one. Loved it but gave it to my friend.

@hkguitar1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar Yeah, I rarely use mine. There comes a time when you look at the storage shelf and realize you've something of a "Tribble" problem! "Gifting" pedals is a wonderful thing to do.

@jfo3000

3 жыл бұрын

I used a Mimiq live, to a cab on the other side of the stage, and the other guitarist did the same. We sounded like a guitar army. Got lots of questions about our "tone", Lol!!!

@rico387

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that would be just what that pedal is for. As long as you’re messing around, try your Mimic pedal on an acoustic. It will give a 12 string(ish) effect.

Phil Collins use a Drum Machine in "In The Air Tonight" for 2 reasons: a drummer would get bored and he needed the drum machine's repetition to add to the background atmosphere

@Trainwheel_Time

3 жыл бұрын

Yippee?

@thewobblywelder8362

3 жыл бұрын

Ok?

@OKredneck

3 жыл бұрын

Who gives a fuck? It's a shit song and I get bored listening to it

@heliqs_

2 жыл бұрын

@@OKredneck who asked lol

Man that was a great video. Love the way you broke it down and explained it.

Love it. This was the solo I was desperate to learn decades ago. The tab always felt wrong!

he actually recorded this solo trice not twice, that why it sounds so powerful

Nice guitar solo forensics! Thank you for taking the time to analyze this so carefully. I wonder if some of the Randy magic that was captured in the studio recordings was due to time constraints and the use of multitrack tape technology at the time. There were no drag-n-drop sound clips back then for sure so you had to commit or overdub because tracks were limited. I have no doubt that Randy could have done another take and matched note for note on Left and Right tracks exactly, but they may have played it back before overdubbing again and said "Hey that sounds awesome!" and decided to move on to the next item on their agenda.

Excellent research dude. You nailed it. I have never heard this played right before.

You, Sir, are a mad genius guitarist!!! You've solved a mystery that I never could quite understand!!!

I actually read on a Guitar Player magazine that he didn't double his solos, he triple recorded them! That guy was really out of this world

@johncaccioppo1142

3 жыл бұрын

I remember reading that too, I might still have that copy from around '85

This is one of those solos that you have to be him to replicate it perfectly

Excellent video! I'd be SO curious which other iconic solos do this sort of thing!

This explains so much… Spent ages on this years ago trying to get it right.

When you bend a dissonant note, you're taking it up a bit in step and this can render it being a harmonious note. Dimebag liked using floyd rose bridges to do this and also go lower in the note's octave as well to create sort of intermediary notes.

@Ervinabrahamian

2 жыл бұрын

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Watch the live performance of Crazy Train floating around from the "30 years later" dvd, Randy jacks up a note right at the beginning, smiling about it, and you think "damn, he was human after all". Then he plays the rest of the song, and you realize, no, he was definitely way beyond human... (Check out how he adds to the walk-down you were discussing. Just amazing). Thx.

You good sir have cracked the code. I also noticed the big difference in sound in the live album than the studio album. Good job!!!

nice breakdown and playing demo, ty for posting!

Dimebag did this sort of thing on purpose, he talked about it in interviews. He said Randy was his inspiration and that he would move notes around until he found the dissonance he was looking for..... I wish they were both still here. Thank god we had them for a time

@ThotSticks

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

when I heard "Crazy Train solo" I immediately thought of the crazy guy playing guitar on a subway

@livedandletdie

3 жыл бұрын

You are very young and uneducated. But one can always learn new stuff everyday.

@BrianStocking

3 жыл бұрын

It was on Amtrak.

@iv689

3 жыл бұрын

The guy who crashed his head in a wall... Several times

The amount of free, high quality information on this channel is mind blowing. What a time to be alive

Very cool to stumble across this video. Yesterday I decided I wanted to learn how to play Crazy Train and I hadn't properly listened to the song in at least a decade. Listening in my ear buds, when the solo came around, the double track really stood out to me. I didn't catch on to the different notes, I figured it was an effect pedal and that Rhodes was playing it perfect, note for note. Cool video and thanks for making this!

Much like how the pitch of a siren changes depending on whether it's moving toward you or away from you, I think Randy's "off" notes give his solo that effect of solo'ing on a fast moving train where some of the echo'd notes change pitch due to movement.

@spriteangel901

2 жыл бұрын

incredible thought right here

Being that it was Randy, it wouldn't have been a mistake at all..... RIP Genius.

@1970borntorun

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, don't get me started on Randy's genius !! lol :)

That's awesome man! Crazy you worked that out.

As a drummer (teaching myself bass) I find this incredibly fascinating. Really makes you appreciate the music and the artistry.

Imaging Randy didn't take that damn flight, the music he and Ozzy would created. As Brian May sang, only the goods die young.

@tybrustornt

3 жыл бұрын

Or billy Joel

@keithklassen5320

3 жыл бұрын

@@tybrustornt -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott.

Brilliant share of an other-world guitarist who’s true genius will never be known. We had Eddie, thank God...but Randy and Jimi were gone way too soon.

Really glad this popped up in my recommendations, very fascinating video. It also makes me wanna start playing again, maybe I'll go browse for that Ibanez again. Keep up the good work. :)

Great explanation, and tribute to Randy's subtle creativity.

When you're a guitar player you place your personality into your style of playing for better and for worse. Randy was a free-willing creative guy. He would try new things on the spot. It worked really well because this is a fast paced intense solo.

This is just epic. As if Randy's playing wasn't mindbowing enough. And this makes sense. Every time I hear someone play Randy's songs on KZread, I go "man something's not right".

Awesome job on demystifying a great solo! The 3rd version you play sounds just like how Randy plays it! I always felt there were something mysterious and ambiguous about that solo.