The Citizen BN-0191 Promaster Diver Wristwatch: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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Today, we're going to look at a gem of a dive watch, the Citizen BN-0191 Promaster Diver. With all the functionality of high end diver, at a price that's less than the tax you'd pay on a Submariner, the Promaster's a great choice for diving, for sporting, and for just wearing a watch.
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So, just to make me seem like an idiot, these have started showing up on store shelves in the last week or so in the US. My local Macys and Kay Jewelers now have them. Hooray!
@AriMWeinstein
6 жыл бұрын
That right there is a helpful update, thank you!
@johobo2038
6 жыл бұрын
So the price at Macy's is what you would expect these to sell at? They're like 400$ at Macy's.
@blitzbbffl
6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Burkhead I noticed that Long Island Watch has it for $289. I've purchased a Seiko and Citizen from them and have been pleased with the watches and their customer service.
@johobo2038
6 жыл бұрын
blitzbbffl some places still have it for closer to 225$. I know my seiko was 400$ at Kay's and only 189 on Amazon. The way he market is strange to me. Such different prices at different stores. It kind of turns me off to them honestly. I really want to get into them but I'm afraid I'll lose my ass. Well that and I have no clue where to buy and sell on the used market.
@marcvidz_6490
6 жыл бұрын
nice video I subscribe is the watch heavy??
Used this for months out on Middle Eastern oilfields and intensive diving holidays - stands up well, tough as nails, goes well with 5.11s, neoprene suits or a suit! Excellent performance at a very modest price - comes recommended.
i have no idea how big this watch is because there was no spyderco delica to compare it to
@abramsatwo2515
6 жыл бұрын
you know what they say...'small watches small knives =" ??? #//not everyone has petite hands and wrist//
Hey Nick! I got this watch as a 21st birthday present based on your review of it, and I just wanted to say how happy I am with it! Thanks for such a thorough review and all you do for the gear community!
Keep doing the watch reviews Nick, love the variety. Thanks.
A small paperclip works well for pushing the pins on the quick adjust.
Truth be told, you're better off with this than any other budget diver. Yes I said it, even the SKX. I don't see what the big deal is with Seiko divers anymore. Almost all of them have misaligned chapter rings, sometimes you're paying twice as much for some of their divers.
@nickkendall3764
5 жыл бұрын
True they dont hack the keep poor time and have nasty bracelets i really dont see why they cost so much if thats what your after buy a seiko 5 and have done with it .
@cradlemonsterp9309
5 жыл бұрын
My SKX typically loses 15-20 seconds per day. This one loses 0.1 second. So for almost the same price it’s 170 to 200 times more accurate.
@ocdetails
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. I know there are a lot of automatic snobs out there, but I'm sorry... Why Seiko continues to put the cheap ass 7s26 in their watches is beyond me. They should offer hand winding and hacking in all of their movements. How much more would it be for them to use a 4r/NH movement? And there is the accuracy issue. Automatics are great, but unless you have a thousand dollar watch they are really just over expensive pieces. The saying is true that if you have an automatic watch then you know what time it is, but if you have two automatic watches then you have no idea. I'll take the watch that is as accurate per month as an automatic is per day. As soon as the caliber 0100 is released in watches next year then I can say I really have the most accurate timepiece money can buy without a radio signal. Seiko can keep their cheap automatics and rabid fanboys. I'll wear watches like this that are more reliable, than you very much.
@MrDudezProductionz
5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Marc I agree 100%. All in all, if you're going to buy an automatic watch, buy ONE, and buy an accurate one with minimal complications. Tudor Pelagos is the way to go in my opinion.
Second Citizen I bought because of your reviews... thanks for getting me into watches Nick
@JVan-ic6ic
3 жыл бұрын
2 years later: why did you get me into watches you bastard!!! 😂
Hi Nick , greetings from across the pond! . I stumbled across your channel a month or so ago as was looking at waveceptor reviews, purchased and very happy👍And after owing an Eco drives before, the Perpetual Calendar Citizen caught my eye in your other vids,but can't find one for a fair price😏so I went for this. Received today and couldn't be happier. Owned a lot of seikos over the last couple of years and this lume is as good as and I don't have to wind it!!!!. Really appreciate your reviews and humour, keep it up. 👏
For you guys who need more information than what's in this video: Awarded ISO 6425 approval, it is the ultimate diving companion, featuring WR200, large, easy to ready dial and markings, screw lock crown, and unidirectional bezel to prevent accidental turning underwater. Plus, with Eco-Drive Technology converting light to power, you never have to worry about batteries failing you at crucial times. CASE SIZE (MM): 44.5 GLASS: Mineral Crystal WATER RESISTANCE: 200M/20Bar [Scuba Diving] FUNCTIONS: Calibre E168, 3 Hands, Date, One Way Bezel
@johnhayes5820
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the bezel. Sooo many guys say the unidirectional is ISO approved?, their are now a few ISO standards and the Swiss have made their own, as to be expected but only ISO counts when I'm short diving. What you listed at the end is fine to correct the previous "unidirectional" word but in Scuba/Diving clubs in Australia we say "safety" bezel, meaning minute anticlockwise bezel that's all you need, and readers will know your in the know . Back to the Promaster, the minute hand let's it down but the lume overall and "Eco Drive" saves the watch 6/10. Cheers J. Brisbane, Australia.
I would definitely take a look at this watch. I have the Citizen Promaster Diver BN0151-09L and I love it. I also have a 20 year old Citizen quartz that still runs like a champ. It spends most of the time in it's case because it looks to tiny on my wrist.
Awesome job Nick! As a gear geek and a watch nerd it's great to see the variety of content. Even better you're a fan of Citizen. Would love to see you do a good, great, bad and ugly, of the Citizen Nighthawk. I know it's been a little bit reviewed to death, but it would be refreshing to get your take on it, and there are some different variations that haven't gotten as much coverage, mainly a radio control version, which checks all the boxes.
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
That's on my list for sure!
I agree about the polished segments of the bracelet. Citizen and seiko are hard to beat. Lately the German watches are really catching my eye. Have a look at some of the Laco timepieces in the 400 to 500 dollar range.
I just bought one of these with the gray dial and bezel ring on Woot for $136. At that price it's a steal and a great watch. This kind of sale happens often with Citizen watches so if you can be patient you can eventually find a really good buy somewhere.
I've got this watch arriving this week. I'm a HUGE Citizen fan. The second I saw this watch I knew I had to have it. They just knocked the ball out of the park with the design of it. As far as it not having an expanding clasp... Yeah, I can live with that. How many people actually buy these types of watches to dive with? It's like the people who buy the huge 4x4 and never ever take it off road. They just want the look and appreciate the functionality, but generally they are just going to be wearing it under their sleeve. Serious divers are going to either replace the bracelet with a silicone strap or buy a watch that comes with a strap that more easily adjusts. I really don't think that is a deal breaker. The only thing they could have done better to this watch is put a domed AR sapphire on it, but that is an easy upgrade to do. I'm really excited about receiving mine. I have that same Planet Ocean in the 42mm size and I think I like the way this Citizen looks almost as much as the Omega. They really just nailed it with this one. Thanks for the great review!
i bought this watch it is amazingly accurate, is a decent size and looks amazing in the light. like i don't see the need to buy an automatic because they all suck at time keeping.
@Starstreak170
4 жыл бұрын
@Get The Gringo Even a COSC certified high end Swiss automatic loses more time in a week than the lowest quality chinese quartz does in a day.
@ComicalSatania
4 жыл бұрын
@Get The Gringo They really do suck at time keeping though
@shaunpearson7905
3 жыл бұрын
@@ComicalSatania Not enough to matter to most people and you guys miss the point I bet you complain about "fake" SFX in great movies too. The impossible complexity and the attempt to approach perfection as much as possible in a mechanical movement is profound - if you don't get it.... Having said that this is a wonderful watch and although requiring some abstraction the timekeeping via the relativistic movements of electrons versus the newtonian mechanical calibre offers its own fascination and has an important place in any collection.
@mrbubbles6961
2 жыл бұрын
@@shaunpearson7905 I would buy automatic version
Got the back and blue. Absolutely love them. Contrary to your dislike of the chunky and large size it is exactly what I love about them. There are many smaller & thinner options out there but this has great presence and you can wear it on mesh, leather, rubber or steel bracelet and it will still look great. I think that for the money Citizen has the best lineup of diver and diver style watches out there. I am not only a fan but I own 7 of them.
@Agent-vj3ns
2 жыл бұрын
Youd prob like the BJ7110. It has sapphire crystal and GMT. Only available overseas/online
Got one for Christmas Nick. It was on my list for Santa cause your review. Thanks friend!
Nick! Excellent review of this 🌊 ⌚!!! 👍👍👍
An absolutely review. Nice work!
Nice review. Thanks
Best watch reviewer on KZread & funny AF.
Nice looking watch! Going to pick this one up anytime soon. Great review, love the accent!
Nice watch, I wonder if its going to replace the Citizen Eco-Drive BN0151-09L.
Nick when I saw that Lume, I think I just fell in love with that watch, it feels so fancy. Should I watch the rest of your watch reviews just to see their Lumens? Probably!
Nice, i've been waiting to see this review from you. Cool watch, definitely interested in adding a solar powered watch to my collection. If it was only smaller like you said (ideally 40mm like the sub would be perfecto) AND i would of immediately bought. 45mm is just way too big for my personal preference. Wish they would offer two sizes! Great review and thanks for showing!!
Awesome review! I definitely know what watch to get now!
I’m definitely I’m adding this watch to my collection
+1 Got this watch as a birthday present and it's great!
I got myself one but bezel is gun metal, BN0198-56H. It's not as flashy as the blue one. Very understated and subdued. It looks big on my small 6.5" wrist. Wondering if I should put it on a nato strap so it fits better on my skinny wrist.
I love, love, love Citizen and their Eco-Drive movement. Completely bulletproof. However, I wish they would release a model with smaller dimensions. This watch would be absolutely killer at 40mm.
I just bought this from Jomashop... I wish it didn't have a date complication though. They should've removed the date window, unless they put in a perpetual calendar too. It also only hits around 50 to 60% of the indices. Lastly, it seems a bit slower than my Citizen AT8124. After hacking it to match the seconds hand of my AT8124, it was slower by around 3 seconds after a few days. But i found out that the at8124 actually runs faster than atomic time while the promaster is just slightly faster than atomic time. I do wish they kept the orange minute hand from the BN0151, it could've been the trademark of promasters, and would've made this model stand out a bit more.
Odd to see the watch in wearing now being reviewed. I would like to point out that while the cristal is mineral it is probably the best mineral i have ever had, 0 scratches as of now, has yours scratched even a bit?
I freshwater swim all summer and I have had a Tudor, a Timex W/screw down crown and I will take delivery of one of these. That is how much I have spent on watches since 1975.
How do you feel about the citizen pro master with the different band and different hands.
I have the this exact watch and also the black dial version.. Very accurate
Love watching your videos. How about doing a Seiko SKX007 vs Citizen NY0040 comparison? I know you pretty much focus on quartz watch review but these two michanical watches alway go head to head and I have yet to see a really good video comparing them. Again, love your vids and always look forward to the next. Thanks for the great channel.
Solar watches are the best. I have 2 gshocks and they kept booting my smart watch off my wrist only because I hated charging vs never having to worry about it. Nice watch either way.
I wish they include the date complication in this watch. I hate adjusting the date on watches, which is why I bought the Citizen AT8124 with perpetual calendar.
Eco drives are a great value for money. Love citizen watches.
Mate, I love the New Yorker accent, the factories in Malaysia have improved over the past few years and we can see it in the Seiko and Citizen product. Only one gripe, Citizen Eco's will fail at about 7 years, I know as I have bought them for my wife and Son in the past. Their not worth sending back for refits, so a dilemma arises with the owner. Clever marketing on Citizens account it would seem. All that said what a great review. Cheers from Brisbane, Australia.
I like that black macho background.... Nice relaxed style Nick... Happy marriage secret ? Who knows.... Fascinating watch.
I don’t mind bracelets with pins. Of all the ones I’ve sized, the only two that gave me trouble had screws.
Nice video. Do you think the watch with the bracelet is too heavy for a 7.5-inch wrist? Thank you.
I own this watch. It looks great and build quality is solid. I have an Omega speedmaster reduced, a Seiko Alpinist, a Hamilton Jazzmaster, a Seiko Flightmaster. and a couple of vintage Seiko speedtimers. The Bracelet has solid end links and beats the snot out of everything I own except a couple of Hamiltons I sold and a Glycine Combat sub which it is equal to. Comparing it to my Seiko SKX is pointless. Only the Alpinist gives it a run for it's money.The dial is a deep pie pan and the watch is about 11mm thick. Got it for $80 at a pawn shop. The Omega bracelet is loose and jingles plus the bezel is gold filled so I can't wear it with confidence.
How does it stack up against the Orient Ray II?
"...I gotta be a little but nuts to choose this guy over this one." BRILLIANT! But, come on Nick, an Omega Master Chronometer is a whole different category.
It's good to note that since it's "Divers" 200m, it complies with ISO testing (that individual watch itself was tested) but should be also be noted that 200 meters water resistance is good for only up to shallow recreational diving. Anything used during deeper diving (deeper recreational diving, professional diving, basically anything over 100 feet) should probably be at least 300 meters water resistance.
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
Sure. But considering most Dive Watches aren't used for ANY diving, let's not split hairs :)
@valkyriesurvives5109
6 жыл бұрын
Question since you actually know what you're talking about: Why should you only go 30m deep max with 200m water resistance?
@TrilobiteTerror
6 жыл бұрын
Valkyrie Survives, Because the water resistance ratings are determined through brief, static tests in a pressurized chamber. The conditions are different when you're actually diving to depth with the watch and swimming around (watch/water isn't static) for a prolonged period of time.
@drmoynihan
6 жыл бұрын
TrilobiteTerror I have used the older design of the Citizen Promaster Diver for 10 years as a strickly diving watch with regular diving at 30 to 50 meter. Upon inquiry to Citizen I was told the seals were the same strength between the 200meter and 300meter, the difference was the pressure it was assembled at. At ten years the older Promaster failed and I am excepting a 1/2 price offer from Citzen's repair department.
I like it..
Can this watch be used for muff diving?
Hi trying to get exact size of this 0191. i have a nh 8389, which is ok for me i find still a bit small = 43.75mm bezel diam, 46mm case diam (because 1mm ledge under bezel). ***Can you give me caliper measurement of outer diam of bezel?*** it looks a bit bigger than 0151 because dial is bigger, bezel goes right to the edge of watch, but on some side by side pictures it looks almost exactly same size as 151 many thanks
Love your videos. Please consider including the weight of the watches.
I bought one for 276 what a great value very pleased
Would this be a good first watch to get?
I like how you say "good to go." Interesting mannerism. Oh, the video? Yeah, that's good too.
What are the last nummers and letters on this watch? Is it - 55L or is it - 80L. Im woundering cuz i might buy this watch online and I want this one.
I agree. I loved it.....till I saw it's size.
Im about to WATCH this video, lets DIVE in... Ill show myself out
I'm seriously considering picking one of these up... But I'm scared it might be too ridiculously big on my wrist. Wish I had somewhere near me to try one. Awesome video as always, that is some seriously sexy lum
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
Macy's has them sometimes.
Is the lug to lug size 48mm sir?
Nice video!! I am between this and seiko solar diver's SNE437P1. Which one should I go for? If you could mention some advantages/disadvantages of each one, I would be really thankful.
@thexplode7
6 жыл бұрын
Asteris so which did u choose
@nickkendall3764
5 жыл бұрын
Yea what he said which did ya get lol .hope your enjoying what ever it is .peace
This might be a dumb question but can you hear this watch ticking? That would keep me awake if I left it on the dresser to look at the lume.
Im thinking about buying this watch... I have one question: Is the mineral crystal vs shappire a big thing? Is it that much better?
@ComUnSas
6 жыл бұрын
Sapphire is much better. Mineral isn't the end of the world though. You can buy circular, tempered glass screen protectors for less than a couple of bucks
Huge Citizen fan!!!!
I have 6.3 inches, can I pull a trigger for this watches?
What is lug to lug please?
I love this watch. Yeah, it'd be nice if it had a sapphire crystal but, I've banged it against my desk and walls and haven't managed to scratch the mineral crystal and, if I ever do, then I can just replace it with sapphire.
Can I use it as dress watch?
I bought this watch in Ontario, canada at peoples jewelers store in 2017 and it's been amazing,peoples has excellent service and top quality knowledge about this peice ,I've seen and heard so many bad stories about fake time peices like this one frankly this scares me,I would suggest buying local at a authorized citizen dealer like peoples jewers, you get to physically talk to people who know this watch and if you have any problems you know your in good hands.Buying big ticket items like this should be purchased from trusted sellers that are local and this will also support your community, fakes are fakes and they are not genuine ,a lot of online sellers with 99.9 percent selling numbers dosen't mean anything if there buyer's got fooled by a fake watch,remember unless your a professional on these things they can be extremely difficult to tell the difference .The real deal has built in qualities.This has been the nicest time peice I've ever owned. Be smart and good luck.
Sapphire is not used in actual dive watches for safety reasons, but honestly how many people will actually take this diving.
Gotta love them eco-drive watches. I'm waiting for a GPS or Radio Controlled dive watch. I'm not sure why nobody has done it yet. Please take my money, Citizen or Seiko!
@ComUnSas
6 жыл бұрын
Because GPS doesn't work under water
@uniqu3xperience965
3 жыл бұрын
3 years later citizen just made it and is darn impressive. Gps sat sapphire 200m is rated
@thestig007
3 жыл бұрын
@@uniqu3xperience965 Thanks for the heads up on that! I looked it up and the tech is there, but I'm not sold on the styling. I'd like it if they could simplify the design a bit. Oh well, I'll keep looking.
You need a big magnifying glass to check the date, it is too tiny.
Really wish there were options for titanium watches with sapphire crystal, radio control, solar power, decent water resistance, perpetual calendar (due to radio), good lume, and slim size/uncluttered face.
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
... Casio Oceanus?
@oklahomahank2378
3 жыл бұрын
This watch comes in gray in titanium. Costs more. BN 2000 I think.
I got reosegold color.
the watch that this replaced had a ratcheting divers extension clasp........ why did they remove it 0_0
@glitchedoom
2 жыл бұрын
If watch companies are good at anything, it's charging you more for less.
where in brooklyn are you from.
Good review! I consider to get this watch. But I am a bit concerned about its use of mineral glass instead of saphire. But according to what I read mineral glass is also pretty scratch resistant so it may not be a dealbeaker. I also wonder about the fact that this watch is available under two numbers: bn0191-80L and bn0191-55L. The latter has higher price but still uses mineral glass. These two are identical and I can't see any difference between them.
How long is the lug to lug distance?
@davidvandusen6556
3 жыл бұрын
He said 48mm
nice
If anyone could point me in the right direction for used watch sales that would be much appreciated! This, and the signature diver are calling my name for a first nice watch.
Review the citizen skyhawk eco drive! I have a a citizen skyhawk 2100 eco drive, blues angels special edition. Best.Watch.Ever. if you read this nick, as the bird why he isn't uploading
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
+Chazinator clash royale/clash of clans gameplay Absolutely planning to.
I'll take them little polished edges compared to my Seiko Solar Padi the whole goddamn watch is polished
This or the Seiko sne437p1 propex solar
I agree with everything you said about this watch. Wait, am I you?
Dial and bezel way too reflective for me. It would be like looking into upcoming traffic all the time. I like your comparison watch, the Citizen BM8180 more because that black dial appears flat - much easier on the eyes - at least in your lights.
At first I read Promaster as P**n star... I should really get some sleep. The watch looks nice though.
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
Wrong website.
@Olumin37
6 жыл бұрын
People are censoring the word porn now. What has this world come to.
@NathanChisholm041
3 жыл бұрын
@@Olumin37 Soyboys!
You wear a mechanical every day!? Never thought I'd hear you say that.
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Reyes Me neither. But it turns out that when you pay many thousands of dollars, you can get a mechanical that’s nearly as good as Quartz.
@DanielReyes-hz1qk
6 жыл бұрын
Nick Shabazz I don't wear a watch every day anymore, but even when I did it was the same Rolex Oster Perpetual Datejust I've had since 2002. Could never bring myself back to wearing anything else after that, and slowly but surely sold off the rest of my watch collection including all my Seikos and Citizen Eco Drives and pretty much got out of the watch game. Used the money from selling all that stuff to pay for the service on my watch ten years later, and it's still functioning flawlessly.
is this 45 mm in diameter with crown or without ? thanks
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
+allonzo10586 with
@allonzo10586
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
The bezel on my 191 seized up on me. Never wash your watch and then run it under a hand dryer..
Wheres that NATO strap from?
Is this watch has Shapiro cristal?
So Nick, will you be bidding on Paul Newman's Rolex Daytona ? :-)
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
+Ed Market I am neither wealthy nor crazy enough.
I like the Citizen better than my Seiko turtle. I really do. Felt like wanting to sell my Seiko turtle for this guy. Its durable, far more accurate and have the same crystal glass. Sigh...
Why do you always have to compare to your omega?
any chance of a hublot review?
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
+koloec94 That’d hit my wallet with a pretty Big Bang.
@mountainhobo
6 жыл бұрын
"hublot review" -- Here it is, $100K Big Bang with the looks of a $5 plastic see-through watch: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYSWlJpyhZqrn6w.html
Tony soprano!!
Quick adjust that requires a tool and can cause you to lose the pin in the field should not be called quick adjust. How about cumbersome adjust?
@NickShabazz
6 жыл бұрын
"Quicker than taking out a damned link" adjust
@mountainhobo
6 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's a good name. Rolex and Omega have the right idea of what quick adjust should be like. Meanwhile, for a beater for hiking, etc., I've switched to straps. That's a time proven quick adjust.
This or orient ray ii? Thanks!
@NickShabazz
5 жыл бұрын
This. Quartz wins.
@ceruaphadion
5 жыл бұрын
@@NickShabazz haha! Thanks. Appreciate it!
He sounds like saul rosenburg from the jerky boys😂😂😂
It's not omg"". You funny man