The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? - Ep. 418

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi and Tom Schmidt were joined by Nic Carter, reformed Bitcoin Maxi, and Laura Shin, CEO of the show, to chop it up about Binance’s buyout of FTX.
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Show topics:
🔹 Haseeb's tl;dr of Binance's possible acquisition of FTX
🔹 whether Alameda is the new Three Arrows Capital
🔹 the implications of FTX's collapse for regulators and lawmakers
🔹 what will happen to all the companies that lent money to Alameda
🔹 Sam Bankman-Fried's emergency effort to raise billions of dollars
🔹 whether there could be criminal charges against FTX
🔹 why FTX was not as profitable as other derivative exchanges
🔹 what the probabilities are of Binance actually buying FTX
🔹 whether the enterprise value of FTX is negative
🔹 Tom's concerns about the concentration in the industry
🔹 how FTX's implosion will impact crypto venture capital firms
🔹 whether Solana can survive without SBF's support
🔹 how the lack of transparency kicked off this situation and how blockchains help solve this issue
Hosts
Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital
Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital
Guests
Nic Carter, reformed Bitcoin Maxi
Laura Shin, author, host of Unchained
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Time Stamps:
00:33 Intro
01:17 Context of Binance's acquisition
09:17 Initial thoughts
13:29 FTX's financing
22:58 The deal
28:08 Concentration
32:24 Contagion
36:56 Market impact
42:15 Transparency
52:09 Regulation
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Пікірлер: 38

  • @itsme-le1bg
    @itsme-le1bg Жыл бұрын

    Great show. So will this root Wall St. characters and practices out of Defi? I hope so

  • @jleasy123
    @jleasy123 Жыл бұрын

    Great discussion and very interesting to hear, loved it... But extremely hard to say that its going be a good thing in the long run when people, on the back of all that has happened the past 12 months, potentially have just lost everything (maybe again) as a result of genuine lies. this isn't good in the long run, this is just a terrible day

  • @CogitoErgo1637
    @CogitoErgo1637 Жыл бұрын

    No FTX advert today?

  • @drentrumenbzh7719

    @drentrumenbzh7719

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro ftx have a stadium lol, the FTX Arena in Miami ^^ (20k capacity)

  • @goednieuwskrantje-nl

    @goednieuwskrantje-nl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@drentrumenbzh7719 Which was basically bought with other people's money/pain/sweat, as it turns out.

  • @PinkSummer1017
    @PinkSummer1017 Жыл бұрын

    This is why i invested in INjective Protocol, jeez!

  • @bancambios
    @bancambios Жыл бұрын

    Can we share the mic?

  • @AndreAnyone
    @AndreAnyone Жыл бұрын

    Great episode

  • @yootuub301
    @yootuub301 Жыл бұрын

    These guys are looking forward to a future in which it takes half as much time to discover that twice as much money has vanished!!

  • @theinsanityofideas4569
    @theinsanityofideas4569 Жыл бұрын

    The FTX collapse is not the first and unfortunately not the last...and it's the investor that are hurt.. in fact we wrote about this topic in our book, in the chapter "Idea Oracles" ... "based on entrepreneurial folklore, failures and losses are an essential precursor for future success. However, if this system is responsible for the next generation of idea selection,, how many ideas will it get wrong, or simply miss, before they eventually get it right? What is the cultural and societal cost of getting it wrong as the power and impact of technology morphs and scales? There are many rose-tinted innovation gurus, that feed off the speaking circuit, and lavishly polish the crowns of entrepreneurs while praising them with the rare ability to frame the future. In reality, while some are incredibly gifted in summoning the odd-entrepreneurial genius out of a bottle, very few of them have a full-proof system for continuously pre-selecting winning ideas. This means that our society can’t always confidently rely on delegating our future to the jitters of the capital market or even the world’s best entrepreneurs and investors to get ideas right for our planet, 100% of the time. The system is designed to run on fuzzy logic."

  • @haplon33
    @haplon33 Жыл бұрын

    extremely distracted by Nic's mustache

  • @longfield8978
    @longfield8978 Жыл бұрын

    No, you guys missed major piece from here, sequoia capital. Sequoia Capital didn't pay its seeds fund to Binance and asked token when BNB moon, Binance refused then Sequoia Capital and Binance didn't like each other. And Sequiia did much media damage to Binance Then Sequoia brought large piece of FTX & Binance wants to sell its piece in FTX. CZ defences DeFi/Decentralization? maybe but maybe much complicated.

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын

    Centralization is the Achilles Heel, but blockchain transparency is the medicine. The reflag is where CFi is recreated and same wealth concentration is established.

  • @HansHeinerBuhr
    @HansHeinerBuhr Жыл бұрын

    It's good for decentralization!

  • @mbk1181
    @mbk1181 Жыл бұрын

    Great discussion. I can always tell when stuff is serious when Haseeb gets ramped up and talks at lightning speed. But as a production matter, when it gets code red for Haseeb, you probably shouldn’t have Nic on bec I think that man purposely talks at half-human speed. I thought that dude was high when I first heard him, but he’s too rational to be high. I’d hate to hear him if he ever got high bec I can’t imagine how slow he would talk. Anyway, the question I had was, when SBF described his yield farming business as literally a Ponzi scheme when he spoke with Matt Levine a bit ago (also a pretty smart and rational guy with a challenging voice to listen to) were there red flags that should have been picked up by the crypto community or was it somewhat brushed aside bec of SBF’s prominence? Was wondering bec when you listen to Matt Levine’s interview, he specifically calls out the Ponzi but SBF almost doesn’t seem to understand that that’s what he described.

  • @drentrumenbzh7719

    @drentrumenbzh7719

    Жыл бұрын

    O_o are you really thinking people value is linked to their capacity to speak fast? Lol , what matters is the content not the form, and ofc Haseeb is awesome

  • @RoyReyes
    @RoyReyes Жыл бұрын

    ftt at $1.10 is a gift. bailout of yuga and sequioa should be an easy 5x...

  • @yootuub301
    @yootuub301 Жыл бұрын

    Users demanded they not be scammed and SBF provided that agreement and scammed them anyways.

  • @nutrino75
    @nutrino75 Жыл бұрын

    damn the monologue, jump to 10min mark

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын

    The next shoe to drop will be Securities Declaration of many coins. This will come sooner than later from Gensler to get out ahead of Congress.

  • @RogerThat902
    @RogerThat902 Жыл бұрын

    "looks like there's going to be a red wave. hehe"--Haseeb...whoops.

  • @itsme-le1bg
    @itsme-le1bg Жыл бұрын

    what crypto really needs is self regulation. An org that estb operating criteria and certifies those who meet it. Others are looked at as shady. And an org that publicly reviews code to warn of the potential for hacks. Crypto has to police itself until conscious in DC rises enough to understand it's value

  • @yoelevan3478
    @yoelevan3478 Жыл бұрын

    binance wasn't a behemoth already? so what? they can manage, run it efficiently, n most of all offer a great if not the best product for their customers.

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын

    Proof of reserves does not solve the issue of concentration of wealth.

  • @IamPotato_007
    @IamPotato_007 Жыл бұрын

    Diff than Theronas - how come many a founders lure the investors? Investors have teams. Groupthink is dangerous. At least with decentralized investors - everybody can speak their mind. That would save lots of humanity.

  • @edwardrodriguez9140
    @edwardrodriguez9140 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to present a video! Today could be sad for some and Tragic for some peoples families hopefully people find solace Amongst their peers

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын

    💩Coins attract flies!

  • @goednieuwskrantje-nl
    @goednieuwskrantje-nl Жыл бұрын

    It was basically a scam, it was inevitable that it would collapse on itself. The only thing i bet Sam did not expect it to collapse so soon and so obvious.

  • @TheBeav30
    @TheBeav30 Жыл бұрын

    Cringed when Shin said “SBF effective altruism come out in moments like this” wow some people remain delusional SBF stole customers funds and is only doing what is good for SBF 🤦‍♂️

  • @mbz205
    @mbz205 Жыл бұрын

    Dont mess with chinaman. CZ is godfather

  • @itsme-le1bg
    @itsme-le1bg Жыл бұрын

    On the last point. R u advocating another "personality" to woo the media and the Washington circus. Your talking about decentralization but want to centralize crypto policy promo again. What we need is a coherent, collective community effort with buckets of money represented by the best lawyer lobbyists. That's the way it works in DC.

  • @cutback443
    @cutback443 Жыл бұрын

    love the show. Just get annoyed by Haseeb's misplaced confidence... or more accurately, arrogance. Take away his money and see how different his "take" is

  • @SATOSHINAKAMOTO-gu9jk
    @SATOSHINAKAMOTO-gu9jk Жыл бұрын

    🕋WLUNA, 👽

  • @vadimcheckorsky600
    @vadimcheckorsky600 Жыл бұрын

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