My doctor got angry with me when I refused a statin and said in a very petulant tone "fine then, if you're happy to accept the risk of death". I have not returned to this doctor.

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Hey NS, so sad to hear that your doctor was not very helpful to you and good on you that you've listened to your gut. Sadly, there are still health professionals that are stuck doing their old practices and do not bother to read new information and latest research. Have you found a new doctor though who would listen to you?

@lindaturgeon1618

5 ай бұрын

I got the same deal from my doctor. I refused the statin. Unfortunately, it’s hard to find a doctor who gets it. I’m on the hunt for a functional doc near me. No luck yet!

@morphix9

4 ай бұрын

When I have to pay for these wonderful pills I might consider those extra 3 days, worth every penny especially if I’ve got diabetes and dementia to boot🐥. The money mill payback for government finances is all about population churn . It’s a wonderful life🐥🐥

@beerman204

3 ай бұрын

He did not regret failing with you, he regrets not meeting quotas big pharma expects from him ...

@neilbush9873

2 ай бұрын

Maybe he thinks your dead😢

I'm listening from the 🇺🇸 USA. I can't get enough excellent education from the likes of these two docs! Thank you, and God bless!

@defeatdiabetes

5 ай бұрын

Our pleasure, thanks for watching!

Between about 13 minutes and 15 minutes, Dr. Mason and Dr. Bruckner give their recommendations regarding Triglyceride and HDL levels. They give numbers that are in units of mmol/L (millimoles per Liter). In the U.S. and some other places, the units typically used are mg/dL (milligrams per deciliter). Converting some of the benchmarks they give into the other units, Dr. Mason's recommendation that triglycerides be less than 0.8 (mmol/L) is equivalent to triglycerides less than 70.8 mg/dL. The recommendation that HDL be greater than 1.5 (mmol/L) is equivalent to HDL greater than 58. For the Trig/HDL ratio, Dr. Mason's recommendations of < 0.8 or ideally < 0.5 (in the world of mmol/L) are equivalent to recommendations of

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

We're glad to hear that you successfully achieved your Triglycerides and HDL levels as suggestion by Dr. Mason. We're glad to know that you found this video informative and helpful.

@Mo-yj3wf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 💙

@agostinhacleopatra8273

Жыл бұрын

"triglycerides be less than 0.8 (mmol/L) is equivalent to triglycerides less than 70.8 mg/dL. The recommendation that HDL be greater than 1.5 (mmol/L) is equivalent to HDL greater than 58." Please, how do you make this calculations? I can not figure it out!

@agostinhacleopatra8273

Жыл бұрын

I found out how in National Library of Medicine: Appendix 2. Units of Measure Conversion Formulas Conversion for TC (total cholesterol), HDL (high density lipoprotein) and LDL (low density lipoprotein)* † : To get from SI units (mmol/L) to mg/dL multiply by 38.67. To get from mg/dL to SI (in mmol/L) multiply by 0.02586. Conversion for TG (triglycerides)* † : To get from SI units (mmol/L) to mg/dL multiply by 88.57. To get from mg/dL to SI units, multiply by 0.01129. 😀😀

@TheFrankHummer

Жыл бұрын

@@agostinhacleopatra8273 It sounds like you have it nailed down. If you still have any questions, let me know.

Most doctors don’t have much time for chit chat. They’ve got to get the patients in and out.

@defeatdiabetes

8 ай бұрын

Hey Leah, if you have any questions about our program or simply about low carb and type 2 diabetes, our experts will be happy to help. We are an email away!

@jp2135744

5 ай бұрын

Most doctors make their patients and/or kill. Correlation or causation?

Just asked my GP for a referal for CAC, he laughed and just printed a statin prescription, so i laughed back and said i dont believe the downsides outway the upsides, all 5 days of it, and slide it on the table back to him. Ill just keep being as low carb as i possibly can till i see Dr Mason next May.

@defeatdiabetes

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, there are still GPs/doctors who are still still stuck in their old ways. We're glad to hear that you are seeing Dr Mason soon and following a low carb eating approach. We wish you all the best!

@trotskyite1

6 ай бұрын

4 days is an average over every person over a number of years. Most people die of other things so they have 0 benefits. A lot of people take their meds infrequently so will not benefit maximally. Statins also work over decades not 1-5 years and their benefits are shown later and accumulate. If you benefit from statins you will average years of increased life and remember even if you don't die you avoid disability from heart disease. Don't fall for information from a sports scientist who doesn't understand basic stats.

I am a lmhr on ketovore. 66 years old, but I feel 35! I love ldl and these two Dr's ❤

I was diagnosed T2D in 1999 . I started Keto and Intermittent fasting lifestyle in Nov 2018 when I was 70. Lost 40 kg, and had many other positive health benefits as well. In an effort to get off my 19 yr statin med I did a CAC score in 2019. My calcium score was 2296. After researching high CAC score (Ivor Cummins) I decided to stop my statin in 2019, but do follow up CAC scans to track my score. This of course left my endo aghast, but even under pressure from him, including a letter from him with word “death” in it, I refused to take a statin. It wasn’t easy for me to face down my endo at the time but I did as I was convinced statin and LDL lowering, saturated fats were in my mind a false narrative. In 2020 my score went down to 2175, then after covid Stuff and vax, my next scan in 2022, my last score was 2550. So my progression was around 5% per year. Scheduled to do another scan later this year! At the moment mainly Carnivore.

@defeatdiabetes

2 ай бұрын

Interesting to read this - am sure you've already done plenty of research on the topic, but if you're curious about low carb, type 2 diabetes remission and it's impact on CVD you can read more here --> www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/resources/science/study-reveals-remission-lowers-kidney-heart-disease-risk/

Brilliant! This Q&A with Dr Paul Mason and Dr Peter Bunker answered all my questions. As a 68-year-old who was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes in 2020 and had a stent fitted in 2022 it provides great guidance to continue to develop my metabolic health in a positive way. Many thanks, I just wish I had discovered this information years ago.

@trotskyite1

6 ай бұрын

You'd listen to a sports scientist rather than a cardiologist. Interesting decision

@Astronurd

6 ай бұрын

​@@trotskyite1You bet I will. There are many cardiologists who back everything Dr Mason is saying.

@user-ki2qr2dl1j

6 ай бұрын

​@@Astronurdyes

Thanks for disseminating this info! I’ve been a nurse for 42 years and I’m learning so much from videos like this. The stats on statins prolonging life by four days is my second favourite statistic, ever. My favourite is 99.98 - Bradman’s test batting average.

@defeatdiabetes

9 ай бұрын

You are so welcome, Karina. Thanks for watching!

@trotskyite1

6 ай бұрын

4 days is an average over every person over a number of years. Most people die of other things so they have 0 benefits. A lot of people take their meds infrequently so will not benefit maximally. Statins also work over decades not 1-5 years and their benefits are shown later and accumulate. If you benefit from statins you will average years of increased life and remember even if you don't die you avoid disability from heart disease. Don't fall for information from a sports scientist who doesn't understand basic stats.

Thank you for making this information so accessible for all.

@defeatdiabetes

9 ай бұрын

Our pleasure, Lizzie! ❤️

Excellent easy listening and understanding. Thank you both

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching this discussion, Annette!! Happy New Year!!! 🥳

Deserves more views. Thanks for that lads.

@defeatdiabetes

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! ❤️

Amazing discussion, thank you both, i am in this very situation with my doctor now. I had a heart attack almost 7 years ago and a stent inserted, thankfully discovered Keto very soon after. Turned my health around after a few months, lost 17kgs and been on it ever since Keto/Carnivore. My latest blood results put my Triglycerides at 0.1mmol/L and HDL at 1.4mmol/L that makes my ratio 0.71. My LDL is 4.7mmol/L. My new doctor is insistent that i must lower my LDL. I can not take statins, the side effects are debilitating, my cardiologist want me to take part in a new drug trial for Obicetrapib. Personally i am not confident that the outcome would be better than just continuing with my Low Carb Lifestyle. How i wish there was a Doctor who is as informed as Dr Paul Mason and Dr Peter Brukner here in South Australia. In the meantime i will follow my inner instincts on how i feel.

@defeatdiabetes

Жыл бұрын

Hi Glen, we're sorry that you are having trouble finding a low carb health professional like Dr Mason and Dr Brukner. We have compiled a list of low carb doctors/GPs with this directory: www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/resources/expert/find-a-local-low-carb-health-professional/ Don't give up and we wish you all the best on your health! 🙂

@Glendram

Жыл бұрын

@@defeatdiabetes Thank you 🙂

I have been on Statins for 15 months and my testosterone level has halved. This month I decided to stop taking the statins.

@defeatdiabetes

8 ай бұрын

Hey Daniel, thanks for sharing your story. How are you feeling after you've stopped taking the statins?

@danielengles

8 ай бұрын

I immediately feel better and so will not be going back but my GP and Cardiologist are not happy. I think they all have the same playbook and don’t care about side effects. It’s like it’s not their Department.

Great contribution, thanks 😊

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bruce, glad you enjoyed it! 👌🏻

Thankyou very much. Very interesting conversation.

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Love the fact Paul's kids are in the background, these guy's are "grounded" in a way that makes it so easy to connect with, not patronizing in any way (Like lots of Dr's tend to be). I gave one of Paul's video transcripts and the BMJ review on statins to my Dr. Hopefully he reads it, more importantly, I hope he understands it!

@defeatdiabetes

Жыл бұрын

Hey Tim, we're glad that you enjoyed this recorded webinar with Dr Brukner & Dr Mason. Stay tuned for more live webinars in the future. We'd love for you to join us again!

Great information. 60 year old who have been a carnivore for 4 years due to eczema. Hdl is 3.7 n ldl is 4.7 trig is 0.9. Been told by my dr to do a coronary calcium score, which i guess I have to do becoz of hypercholesterolaemia. Living in Perth. I know there is nothing for me to worry. Never drank smoke or drugs. I look like 40 being 60. Im 5ft 1 n the gravity pulls me down to 46kgs😊

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

Amazing, Geena! ❤️

The fellow who did my calcium scans did mention the politics around the test. Medicare wasn't very keen and he said they have always lobbied to increase the availability. There was a large and complex Medicare review where the radiologists had to plead the case, hence it is now available as outpatient. He also said they are attempting to lower the radiation from the scan, yet still get excellent pictures, all the time. It is quite low already.

I've had two calcium scans now to reassure myself of true disease. It was very low score of 20 then 12. I was then able to do a MESA score to get my true risk of cardiac event. I stay low carb to keep it low.

Thank you. Excellent!

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, Jo!

Thanks for speaking truth and clarity for all to learn. Do either of you docs consult privately? I’m in regional VIC Macedon ranges. No Low Carb docs nearby. Do you do Telehealth consuls Peter or Paul?

@defeatdiabetes

2 ай бұрын

Neither Paul or Pete are running telehealth, but we have a helpful directory of low carb health professionals (including GPs) who may help: www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/resources/expert/find-a-local-low-carb-health-professional/

I have incorporated some 5 years ago with a strict carnivore diet and my type 2 diabetes is in full control.

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Hey Chris, that's good to know that you have put t2d under full control!

I stopped statins in 2016 . No bad effects. I'm glad I did but believe my feet and leg neuropathy was caused by statins. Took statins for at least 30 years

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Good to hear that, Cezanne! 👏🏻

It’s all about added sugar and eating too often. Cholesterol is not the problem, just a marker. The rules keep changing but HDL / Trig ratio works the best.

Great info 👌 my LDL is sky high but I feel healthier then I ever have. I’m sticking to carnivore!

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

That's great to hear, Jim! Glad to see the progress you made through a low carb lifestyle! 😊

Thank you so much

@defeatdiabetes

3 ай бұрын

You're most welcome!

Olive oil is not a seed oil, its made from the flesh of the olive and the seed/stone is discarded. I have a large olive grove in Portugal and produce my own olive oil which is nothing like what you buy in the supermarket.

@brucemckay6615

6 ай бұрын

And there you have it… the supermarket olive oil IS different… and worse… so your complaint while technically correct is wrong at scale….

@nevillegoddard4966

6 ай бұрын

@@anewlifeinportugul Yeah, olive oil is a fruit oil.

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for leaving us this comment @anewlifeinportugal. We're also a fan of olive oil not only for it’s taste, but also for it's added benefits since it is well known for its healthy heart effects. It reduces LDL cholesterol which assist with lowering your risk of heart disease, and improves good protective HDL cholesterol. And despite being heated at high temperatures, it has a stronger resistance to being oxidised compared to other seed and vegetable oils. Studies show it can improve our health, as it contains oleic acid which reduces inflammation and may even have beneficial effects on cancer. You may read more on our take on olive oil here: www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/resources/nutrition/why-were-so-obsessed-with-olive-oil/

@christinebowman90

3 ай бұрын

olive oil has omega 6,just not as bad as vegetable oil

Wonderful presentation, thanks. Would it be possible to reference the discussed journal articles with links here? Thanks!

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in! 🙏🏻

Hi, I noticed that there was some surprise at Dr Paul Mason Trig/HDL ratio values below 0.5. Can I point out the Triglycerides/HDL Ratio usually widely quoted as a healthier target is below 1 is only a valid value when you use mg/dL units. If you use mmol units, to get the same ratio value as in mg/dL units you need to use this formula: (2.29*Triglycerides)/HDL. So in mg/dL Trig/HDL = 71/71 = 1 And in mmol. Trig/HDL = (2.29*.8)/1.83 = 1

@universanima

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this! I live in the UK and the measurements here are in mmol/tg and my ratio is 0.9. If I convert them to mg/dl my ratio is 2.08.

Vit K2 and D3 in combination can REDUCE calcium in the blood (calcium score) and direct it to the bones and teeth where it belongs. In Australia CARUSO's Vitamins make such a supplement. Obviously there will also be other suppliers.

Thank you explained so well. I missed the first part, which I have gone back and I have now seen the whole talk. I was confused on how to view, it was on KZread not Facebook, also I am unable to download the e-book, any advice on this would help.

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lesley. Thank you for the feedback! Our apologies, we experienced a technical glitch at the start of the stream which meant that our Facebook Live was not working. You can sign-up for your copy of the eCookbook here: bit.ly/DDHearty

Excellent article Teachers!!! Keep up the good work I don't consume olive oil, I prefer animal fat, preferably beef, Pork fat is somewhat inflammatory, in my opinion. Success

@defeatdiabetes

Ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

I have the link to the e- book and sent my name and email yesterday. Still no e-book so resent them again over an hour ago - still no email. There must be a glitch? Can you help please?

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jean. Thanks for letting us know! I can see your name and email in our system but it's also saying that the two emails we sent with the eBook bounced. Pop over to our website (www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/) & send us a message confirming your correct email address using the 'support' button and we will makes sure to get you the eCookbook ASAP.

can't find the link to download for the cookbook

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jennifer, if you're still having issues with the eBook download, please don't hesitate to email us!

Good to know more details about the homocysteine meaning... I've got hypothyroid and use thyroid hormone replacement.... which is far from perfect... I also take methylated folate, when I stopped the methylation folate the blood test showed increased homocysteine.... I can't remember exact #, but it was slightly elevated, so I take the methylation folate again.....

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for tuning in! 🙏🏻

Would it be possible to have a list of the literature that Dr. Paul Mason refers to within the presentation please?

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

We'll certainly ask if he can provide this.

@lindaturgeon1618

5 ай бұрын

I would also like a list. Hopefully Dr Paul Masón will be able to provide it to the people who would like to have it!

Dr Mason, could you please give some information on rapatha. Iwas prescribed this took four injections of 140mg and then discontinued, how safe is this. Thank you

@defeatdiabetes

8 ай бұрын

Hi Judith, unfortunately, this is out of the realm of low carb and Type 2 diabetes so we're unable to comment on this matter.

Thank you for expounding my knowledge wrt cholesterol. I have a Tri/HDL ratio of 0.27. T=0.8 and HDL= 3. Do I need to be concerned that my ratio is very low?

@defeatdiabetes

5 ай бұрын

Hey Essellel, a non atherogenic (good) picture is where the HDL is greater than the trigs. Your HDL is more than 3 times greater than the trigs. So you should be very happy with your results.

@Essellel

5 ай бұрын

@@defeatdiabetes Thank you! That’s great news.

Statins lower the large buoyant LDL particles, right?

@defeatdiabetes

5 ай бұрын

Yes, that's correct!

@tomgoff7887

5 ай бұрын

Statins have multiple effects including turning uncalcified plaque into (more stable) calcified plaque. Both large and small LDL partices are atherogenic. See eg 'Low-density lipoproteins cause atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease. 1. Evidence from genetic, epidemiologic, and clinical studies. A consensus statement from the European Atherosclerosis Society Consensus Panel' and 'Low-density lipoproteins cause atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease: pathophysiological, genetic, and therapeutic insights: a consensus statement from the European Atherosclerosis Society Consensus Panel' Mason routinely misstates the facts. Also he deceives by omission. For example, various diseases like various cancers, liver diseases, Alzheimers, heart attacks, infections and traumas cause cholesterol to decline. Since most people in Western societies have high cholesterol, people with lower cholesterol often tend to be those with long term chronic diseases that cause cholesterol to declinde.

NIACIN will help lower cholesterol IF you are concerned. This was an old fashioned treatment many years ago before statins. Plenty of info on KZread......

@johnf.hebert1409

5 ай бұрын

so can Oreos

Dr's in the UK will write a script for statins, on age alone, without a diagnosis for need according to a statin salesrep info to the medical... Surely the longterm cost to health service of unnessary medication is greater than a CAC scan...

@defeatdiabetes

5 ай бұрын

We would agree wholeheartedly!

The low LDL higher mortality connection might be explained by the weight of number of people with mortal illnesses like cancer, having low LDL as a result of the disease

Why can’t I have Calcium test even though I had a stent in 2017? Would it show my calcium score now? I suppose I am hoping that things have improved.

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Glenys, a coronary calcium score is performed to check if you are at risk of heart disease. If you have had a stent then that already means you are at high risk of heart disease so it would not provide any new information and there is the down side of being exposed to radiation which carries a small, but still some, risk. Hope this helps!

@glenyslowden

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your response. But wouldn’t it give me a score now and if I had another one in a couple of years establish if things were stable and not increasing at an exponential rate?

Love the exsprechen .Falling off your perch 😂x

@defeatdiabetes

5 ай бұрын

It is funny! 😆

I am 58, I have "high" cholesterol for at least 20 years, so does my cousin and her daughter. None of us died yet from heart-attack or had any problems related to heart or arteries. I am much closer to get diabetes as I am addicted to saccharides, so if I took the statins I would probably have diabetes already! No thank you!

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comments, Vlad. You may be interested to hear our experts' thoughts on LDL cholesterol and why you should not be worried especially if you're on a low carb eating lifestyle. www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/questions-and-answers/should-i-be-worried-about-high-ldl-cholesterol/

Can’t see the cooking book link

@defeatdiabetes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kathy, here it is bit.ly/DDHearty

@MyContestPix

Жыл бұрын

@@defeatdiabetes Link is dead. :(

Latest bloods on carnivore: total chol: 8.1mmol trig: 0.9mmol HDL: 1.8mmol LDL: 5.9mmol Chol/HDL ratio: 4.5mmol NonHDL: 6.3mmol I am not sure what this nonHDL figure is. My math on the Trig/HDL ratio is 0.5. Is this correct? Doc knows I don't want to take statins. Booked for Calcium Score 4/3/24.

@gloriaharbridge4986

4 ай бұрын

No longer Type2 diabetic. No longer on BP med. Calcium scan $230.00 out of pocket 4/3/24

@defeatdiabetes

4 ай бұрын

Hey Gloria, congrats for reversing your type 2 diabetes and good to know that you're no longer on meds! 🥳🙌🏻

My doctor called and told me my cholesterol was too high....my ratio triglycerides/ HDL is .54 How come doctors dont look at that ratio ?????

@defeatdiabetes

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, many busy GPs don't have time to keep up with the latest science. Perhaps show this video to them to get their opinion!

@nevillegoddard4966

6 ай бұрын

@@fanielledelorme2537 Cos they're way too busy chasing $ than knowledge.

@trotskyite1

6 ай бұрын

Because ratios are meaningless in respect of health outcomes. It's the particle number that counts for everything. If your apob is high it doesn't matter about the ratio.

Statins and CQ10 levels

@nevillegoddard4966

6 ай бұрын

@@jimlofts5433 Statins lower your COQ10, which is BAD. I forget why though sorry!

Seems if one focuses on controlling insulin and blood glucose, good health will follow.

@defeatdiabetes

2 ай бұрын

Improving your blood glucose management will have a flow-on effect for insulin efficiency, which is why the evidence overwhelmingly supports a low-carb approach to improving metabolic health and specifically managing type 2 diabetes and achieving remission. We've got lots more information on this topic at the Defeat Diabetes website --> www.defeatdiabetes.com.au/category/resources/low-carb/

@Crimepaysaskapolitician

2 ай бұрын

@@defeatdiabetes thank you

So mt TR number is 0.8 and my HDL is 2.05 = ratio of 0.4… My HbA1C is 34 mmol/mol…. I’ve been T1D for 40 years…. CAC test done but results not yet through…. Should I be worried??

@defeatdiabetes

6 ай бұрын

Hey Bruce, one of our experts commented that these results are excellent. So nothing to worry about. You'll just need to wait for the calcium score. We hope this helps!

To make the claim of extending someones life by a certain period is absolute garbage . No one can make such a statement and be called credible , because no one knows the time of their death . In effect they are saying they knew the day of your death and by taking their medication they extended your life .

N.B. "People with diabetes", not 'diabetics' is seen as best practice nowadays.

@terryolay4613

8 ай бұрын

Enough with this woke/PC nonsence. If I have diabetes, I'm diabetic. If I have obesity, I'm fat, etc There is nothing wrong with stating reality. Instead of being offended by the accuracy of a "label," you should be excited about the solution these men are offering.

@nevillegoddard4966

6 ай бұрын

@@jennyweyman3039 Best practice for what? Political correctness? What, are you a baby?

@bd_bsl5707

2 ай бұрын

Really? What is the difference? Just political correctness

This comment should be pinned so people are not misinformed. 4 days benefit is an average over every person over a number of years. Most people die of other things so they have 0 benefits. A lot of people take their meds infrequently so will not benefit maximally. Statins also work over decades not 1-5 years and their benefits are shown later and accumulate. If you benefit from statins you will average years of increased life and remember even if you don't die you avoid disability from heart disease. Don't fall for information from a sports scientist who doesn't understand basic stats.

@philleggitt3005

5 ай бұрын

@ trotskyite So out of a 1000 how many benefit from statins...Your staement suggests "most " dont benefit bacause they die of something else...500 left...A lot dont take meds on a regular basis...400...I believe a lot of patients do not have decades left when interduced to statins so benefits dont have time to kick in... How many get complications from statin consumption, like diabetes?

@vladkagreen1824

4 ай бұрын

Keep taking your statins at your own risk Nobody is forcing you to stop. What do you mean by"sports scientists"?