This is a remake of a video I released over 5 years ago before Game of Thrones ended. I still think there are some great ideas in the original video, but I hate the way it was produced. I can't help but cringe whenever I go back and listen to some of my old videos, for various reasons, and I wanted to make some slight changes to the overall theory. Most of the "evidence" is the same, but I wanted to give it a different ending. Just to clarify, I don't think Bran will turn into an ice zombie like we saw in the show. I think he will still look exactly the same, more or less, but it will be his mind that is corrupted. Let me know what you think if you make it all the way through. Thanks for watching!

@TheThirdManu

2 ай бұрын

link to original video?

@tylerchapman9234

2 ай бұрын

I'm not able to buy into your theory. Bloodraven was of house Blackwood. He killed his own kin to follow the Azor Ahai promise

@sanchittandon9196

2 ай бұрын

What is the use of all this? HBO is not going to make any sequels of game of thrones.

@SarahPriceMoore

2 ай бұрын

You’re amazing! I LOVE your videos and I’ve been watching them for YEARS. Thank you for your continued efforts. Also, Jojen paste is one of my favorite theories. Thank you. ❤❤❤

@SarahPriceMoore

2 ай бұрын

@@sanchittandon9196books exist.

I have many times thought that Martin made a trap to Benioff and Weis telling them that Bran will become the king, but in reality Bran will become the Night King.

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Yes! Only not the Night King from the show. Bran will embrace the darkness, like Bloodraven told him, and become the king of the night!

@bambi42

2 ай бұрын

@@TalkingThrones Yes of course not the Night King of the show. I just wish that Martin can finish the books one day so we can read the whole story

@sophiaeressea5687

2 ай бұрын

there is also the option that Bran might become the king of Grendel's children, whoever they might be

@BarrackObamna

2 ай бұрын

@@TalkingThronesyou’re making a giant leap in assuming that any real work is being made on the series. I hope I’m wrong but George will die before finishing it all.

@aussiewanderer6304

2 ай бұрын

But he can never have a Queen of the Night, because that title belongs to Whitney Houston.

this is exactly what crossed my mind when I watched GOT for the second time and noticed how different Bran becomes when he comes back beyond the wall and Meera is upset with him and leaves as if she knew he was dead and gone. Also, Bran knew he was going to become King, and accepted the Kingship as if it was his plan the entire time! The 3 eyed raven won the Game of Thrones without anyone noticing.

@KaiPhD

2 ай бұрын

This!

@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594

2 ай бұрын

D&D did that on purpose

This is exactly why I think D&D were the wrong people for the job. They seriously did not understand the source material, nor did they seem to care.

@MyDevilishLullaby

2 ай бұрын

They did not like the fantasy-magic themes as well, even though they were integral parts of the story

This one of the best videos and theories I've seen in a while.

The children of the forest and the blood raven is one of those mystical elements im not sure George has fully thought out yet

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

I agree with that. There's a lot of potential there. I'm looking forward to Bran's future chapters the most. I NEED to know what's going on in that cave.

@garethmartin6522

2 ай бұрын

I disagree, because GRRM's science fiction based heavily in biological elements. I think this may likely have been one of the first things he thought of.

@GothPaoki

2 ай бұрын

He might have thought of it first but he didn't necessarily flesh it out

D&D not just ruined some plot lines but each and every one of them .. but the best part is they lost the star wars show for which they rushed and ruined GoT

@kennyhudson9201

2 ай бұрын

At least they gave us an ending. I respect that more than never giving one like Martin the soap opera writer.

@SayfumaniMyG

2 ай бұрын

@@kennyhudson9201Couldn’t disagree more 😂

@kennyhudson9201

2 ай бұрын

@@SayfumaniMyG I know, I don't get it. You would rather have nothing than something. Isn't that just a child like tantrum? I'd rather have nothing than something makes no sense to me, but I accept that some people just make no sense to me.

@SayfumaniMyG

2 ай бұрын

@@kennyhudson9201 I disagreed with your point of „respecting that more“, because of the whole context, what could have been, if they just accepted, that they are burnt out and they could give it to someone else who was genuinely passionate about it, instead of making the most pathetic ending which I couldn’t have even thought of, even if my intentions were to make the worst ending. So yes, I respect it more, to know ones limit and not force it, even if that means you’re left with nothing, instead of the biggest crap ever. Maybe with this example it will make sense even for you. Would you prefer non-existence or the most painful and never ending existence?

@SayfumaniMyG

2 ай бұрын

@@kennyhudson9201 The reason why people make no sense to you, is because you probably never really reflected. Of course there will be from human to human differences in what they would rather prefer something instead of nothing, but given the right choices, everyone would prefer in some cases nothing instead this specific something. For example: Would you have no sexual relationship at all or having a sexual relationship with your mother? And if you dare to say none, than you don’t make sense to yourself.

As someone who has never read the books i wish they used this material. It explained so much and would have been awesome to see on screen

@thomasquigley8622

2 ай бұрын

what if Bran's role is to end the whole source of corrupt magic that brought the White Walkers in the first place? The White Walkers were used to fight The First Men. The White Walkers (The Others in the books) are permanent ice shadows cast from the weirwoods, using blood magic. The Children of The Forest were desperate and created a weapon of mass destruction. What if I told you that Old Nan is actually Leaf (the Child of the Forest) using a glamor spell to hide her identity, waiting at Winterfell for "the Bran child" to end all of this?

@PapaEmeritus_4evr

2 ай бұрын

@@thomasquigley8622 Good point. I've heard this theory before and really thought about it. ✌️

@PapaEmeritus_4evr

2 ай бұрын

Do you think you'll read the books? You'll LOVE them. There is just so much more. I have the books but I also have them on Audible. I listen to Roy Dotrice read them then follow along in a PDF format as well. He is REALLY good at narrating. R.I.P. Roy Dotrice.

@daniellerhymes2842

2 ай бұрын

@PapaEmeritus_4evr I actually got the books as a gift years ago and I found the story hard to keep up with but that was before I was really into the show. Now that I'm heavy into it I may give the books another try

If you read previous George Martin writing like And Seven Times Never Kill Man! (which has bachalon the pale child which we have in ice and fire, and the golden core which are bunch of genticists , Planetos is probably located in 1000 worlds) and current one like Elden ring which is literally about a tree collecting souls. The theme always is about a supernatural system that kind of takes over a group of species, eventually dumping them for new ones. Kind of like the bank of Bravos quote, you can take a stone out of the bank temple but the temple keeps its form. The Weirwood network installed itself amongst different species like the children of the forest and now with Bran it will take over the humans since the children are dying out. The others probably want to destroy it because its trying to take control of them

Talking thrones, you see how when you're crafting a theory or story, you consistently reference the books? That's the type of energy we need for all the game of thrones shows. After season 4 they should have hired you to take it from there.

This changes EVERYTHING. (even the miracle of making the TV show's ending better) THANK YOU for still being doing this.

The only way the show makes sense is if a later show tells us Bran/Bloodraven is the true villain of the show representing humanity’s greed that will one day destroy the world and the White Walkers were created to keep him from destruction

@trebrown8144

2 ай бұрын

Not the clear depictions of how satan gets into our world? Cmon agents gotta do better than that😂😂

When reading the books this has always seemed like the logical direction and progression given the history we’re given and the cryptic way the children of the forest talk. Good points, great video

This could set things for the “ SNOW” show. That the night king is now the king of Westeros 😮

@chuckshingledecker2216

2 ай бұрын

I believe HBO has scrapped plans for that show. Kit Harrington said something like that in an interview.

@millieskid

2 ай бұрын

It was Kit.and his team that approached HBO for a SNOW spinoff. They had storylines, plots, & outlines already drawn. I believe they were interested in producing a "character study' about Jon Snow and how he's been affected by the events of his past. Kit hinted at this at the GoT fan convention in 2022. An employee in HBO's programming dept revealed in an interview 2 weeks ago that SNOW was DOA~dead on arrival. Kit recently confirmed it's been cancelled. It's unfortunate.

@potakos25

2 ай бұрын

@@chuckshingledecker2216 what?? Noooo that's sad!! The one storyline they kinda owe to the audience... 🥲

@potakos25

2 ай бұрын

@@millieskid that's truly sad!! I was waiting for that show so bad. Thank for all the info 🥲

@millieskid

2 ай бұрын

@@potakos25 You're welcome. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I'm just as disappointed as you are, as well as many, many other fans. As a result of HBO's decision to scrap the SNOW sequel, I won't be supportive of the other prequels in development.

Bran was so off, I hadn’t thought the 3ER had taken him but that the Night King had. I also just realised and can’t believe I never saw it before. The stones around the tree with the COTF have the same pattern the Others make with the limbs at Last Hearth. I agree too the CTOF and the Others are either in alliance or different breeds perhaps of one enemy. At one time, Bran is asked what the Others want, and he said 'Me.' If that was 3ER responding, why does NK want him? And who ends up on The Iron Throne then? Bran? or 3ER? or NK? And if the CTOF still live, can they not make another Other? I just struggle to accept they were defeated but there are many things I struggle to accept about the show's endings.

Such a genius theory! Thanks for sharing!! Love your ASOIAF/GoT content, looking forward for more - til then, I’ll be awaiting more corn 🌽

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate you 😊

The way Bran changed by his return to Winterfell, I assumed the Children had control of him. Their ultimate victory would be having Bran, their puppet, king of Westeros

Great video. I still think your alternate version of the last season, and a next one were way better than ending we got.

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I put a lot of work into those.

Love this ❤ I’m glad I’m not the only one who can’t move on from Brynden Rivers’ and children of the forest clear involvement in what happened😂

The way I always looked at it is the 3 Eyed Raven got tired of being a tree and decided to be the ruler of Westeros instead. So he guided Bran to his cave, supplanted Bran's consciousness with his own (hijacked his body basically by transferring his consciousness into Bran somehow) and took the actions and lack of action needed for him to end up as King. He needed someone who was nobility because hijacking the body of a "childen of the forest" wouldn't do - imagine a nobody coming to King's Landing and claiming the throne, he would be rejected if not thrown in a dungeon instantly. No legitimacy.

This does make a lot of sense, at first I thought nah grasping at straws, but then you reminded about the crow talking to bran as he fell, and what you say about the children and the others working together, all I can say is every character killed by the others you see them risen but you never see a zombie child of the forest in their ranks. Great episode 🫡

Plz more long content like this. Luv your vids

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Thank u 😊

@lordtx90

2 ай бұрын

He needs some updates to make videos Game of Thrones is over and House of the Dragon is filming .. what will he make videos about if there's no material... whenever there's any news he updates us

@dexxxxed4297

2 ай бұрын

@@lordtx90 he could try the In Deep Geek or Alt Shift X approach. I'm a fan of his & trying to give helpful suggestions

@lordtx90

2 ай бұрын

@@dexxxxed4297Haha i know bro I'm not saying u r hating or criticizing him or calling u a hater .. I'm just saying currently there's nothing to update plus the Dance of the Dragon is already completed so there cant be predictions but yes he can make a lot of videos on Asoiaf books .. i know u r saying it in a positive way 👍

@lordtx90

2 ай бұрын

​@@dexxxxed4297if it helps try David lightbringer.. he makes videos on fan theories and predictions on ASOIAF universe

The Snow show should retcon or redo season 8. If not, we need the white walkers / wights to still be around. Also we need to see the isle of faces, the green men and House Reed.

@AB-ee5tb

2 ай бұрын

I think they already cancelled the show 😢

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Yes, yes, and yes!

@LDW12887

2 ай бұрын

They dont own you anything though

@AB-ee5tb

2 ай бұрын

@@LDW12887 they don’t own anything? That sucks

@stevem2323

2 ай бұрын

@@AB-ee5tb Snow? Not officially.

Awesome I hope this would happen keep em coming TT

Brilliant analysis!

Best content hands down

Great video! I was always so upset they didn't give us more backstory to the children of the forest in the final season. Of course we got nothing on the White Walkers and the Night King either as far as backstory and/or motivations

Well, I do think that the Children of The forest had a non aggression pact with the White Walkers...but all of that ended, the moment Bloodraven was luring Bran to his domain, to take over his body. The Night King saw this as a threat to his existence because he knew that Bloodraven in Bran's body would eventually unite the lords of the south against him. As for serving the Great Other, I see both the Night King and Bloodraven(with the Children) as serving the same master and that their rivalry is compared to two servants feuding over the love and attention of their Master, the Great Other.

Awesome! Maybe you mentioned, but the First Men broke the green pact by making peace with the Andal's. So, that's further motivation for their actions in this theory!

@BarrackObamna

2 ай бұрын

He did, in the first few minutes. Or at least alluded to it by showing the shows clip of the children making the first

Is there a chance the night king is a good guy or not a bad guy and is just controlled by the children of the forest

This is an interesting theory and would make for a great spinoff sequel. Daenyrs could come back to stop the children of the forrest and zombie Bran. And maybe they could explain the fall of Old Valyria in the process.

@bandoogiemanz

Ай бұрын

If interested, you should consider reading Talking thrones season 9 playlist. He basically came up with his own sequel after the end of the show.

Have to be honest, i liked your story and idea what might happen, like it sounds possible, I have looked at many ideas and this is definitely the best

As I had just finished the series ...again... For the 5th time in full. There was soooooooo much left unanswered and unfulfilled

I think you're pretty spot on, given what evidence we *do* have of the lore surrounding the Children of the Forest and Blood Raven specifically. I think Bran was taken over by Blood Raven, who was basically forced to do so via the Children of the Forest, in an attempt to get their lands back via playing the Game of Thrones. Bran became King. They are now the ruling force (be it tiny in reality) now. I hope Bran isn't truly dead, and manages to resurface at some point; like he's trapped in his own mind and has to battle Blood Raven for control, just cause that would be really neat to see. The theories are really neat, but I think this one is def one of the more plausible ones :)

I always thought it was Bran's destiny to fall...but I love the clues you put together and makes this way more interesting than the slip shod method D&D dealt with this very important point.

Lets take a moment to appreciate Leaf.

@thomasquigley8622

2 ай бұрын

Leaf is actually Old Nan using a glamor, waiting centuries at Winterfell for the Bran child. She only left to go back North of the Wall when she thought Bran was killed by Theon Greyjoy. Oh and Leaf/Old Nan is likely also a dragonrider.

This would be a much more satisfying ending than the dross we got served up in season 8

This is seriously one of the better fan theories I've heard.

the sacred "swirl" is the Fibonacci sequence. the 6 and the 9 twining. good vs evil, blue vs red.

I reckon they missed a big story with the children. This is a side of the story a lot of folk wanted to see more of. There's still hope yet to deep dive into this part of the story. Hope to god they do so 👌

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

They really dropped the ball with the whole children, bloodraven, bran storyline. It sucks that so many people hate Bran in the show because his chapters are some of my favorite. He has an incredible story in the books.

@kevinkelly8383

2 ай бұрын

@@TalkingThrones agreed 👌 I just hope someone of our imagination has the right ideas , we are missing so much stories from this world

Great theory!! I’ve always thought bloodraven had to have some bigger role in this story/show! I didn’t know how to put it into words like you did but I’m all in on this one🙌🏼 hopefully if we ever get the “SNOW” sequel maybe they use some lore from this!

9:42 Why does this character remind me of the White Walker child that was nailed to the tree in the opening scene of the first episode??

So with this same logic. Rickon will be the one who takes Bran down. Leaf said the dire wolfs will out last us all. Old Nan said the brother of the man who stopped him( the wording here was kinda strange) and besides Jon and Bran who still has a wolf? Rickon, who is away with the unicorns.....

Your channel keeps my love for ASOIF burning, have you thought about doing This for other book series as well? Such as king killer chronicles or stormlight archive?

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

I've always wanted to!

@Yokar_mova1212

2 ай бұрын

@@TalkingThrones That's amazing! You definitely should check out KKC (king killer chronicles) it has amazing material to analyse and form theories. I can imagine you nailing it down better than others!

I believe that "A Dream of Spring" alludes to them being the main danger in the last book, no longer hidden, rather than just looking toward the end of winter. The idea of Dark Bran, or whatever might control/use him, being crowned King of the seven kingdoms is a much bleaker proposition than in the show.

I’d like a GoT prequel of the children of the forest and why they created the white walkers with it ending with the wall getting built. I haven’t read the books though I thought maybe the CotF created the white walkers to get people to leave Westeros and never come back after that the night king somehow gets killed by the CotF and for a long time Westeros happily belongs to the CotF again before this sort of thing happens all over again.

I've read the books a couple of times. I'm glad i glad i watched this. It made me want to reread them. Thanks.

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Go for it! Thanks 😊

Great vid. I do think it's totally within the theme of the show to have bloodraven ward into bran while bran use the weirwood to warg into bloodraven. A not so dark twist would be for in this moment Bran discover bloodraven's evil secret plan but be able to escape, with the help of mera, and it might be blood raven that gets trapped inside hodor in the hold the door moment, while he is trying to run away from the NK in a different body. But only time will tell.

Think your spot on with this :)

In the novels, the Children of the Forest are the Ravens. They didn't die off like was thought. A few of them survived, but most went into the crows

I thought the lore said Night’s King was thought to be a Bolton. Or am I remembering it wrong?

I understood only half of this but slay!!!

Also, Hodor is a combination of the two "Summer Kings" we know in the stories... Bran and Robert. Robert was huge and not to bright. Bran is crippled and innocent. Hodor is huge and innocent. This is why Bran could ride Hodor and I am sure Bryden Rivers (Almost a Bran, almost a Summer King, but twisting and flowing) can use Brans kindness and Innocence against him, so he could take his body while he is in Hodor. Bran will have to therefore go in animals til he find Jon and can convince him that his brother Bran is not actually on the Throne.

So was Bloodraven inside Howland’s mind when he decided to attack Arthur Dayne from behind? It was an unusually unchivalrous move in a one on one battle between high-born warriors

They could/should have mad more episodes of bran learning and becoming blood raven and the children of the forest background. Amd another 2-3seasons to slow down seasons 6-8. So sad what it turned into. A rushed mess instead of the masterpiece it started off as. It atleast should have been 12 seasons

really cool theory

very interesting and love your videos!

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Bran is the Knight King....We hope the GOT has a sequel one day

Trying to tie show and Book together a bit (and having only read a few select chapters from the books) Could the act of Arya killing The Night King actually release him to also enter Bran? Like Being John Malchovich, all these different personalities living in Bran's head vying for control?

WTH do ppl still believe in the ‘jojen paste’ theory??? Nowhere in the chapters of that book do they ever mention his disappearance or death just that he’s been somewhat depressed. It was Weir wood paste. However, I’ve always wondered the true intentions of the COTF and the different factions of them.

also season 3 episode 8 when sam kills the walker, before it shows up there’s like a noise of a hundred ravens outside and they go silent the moment it appears. like the ravens brought it there and it’s also just in underwear with no armor on and probably the only reason sam was able to stab it in the back.

This is great, I wish this was canon, well there’s still hope it will be

This is a fun theory, but to me it lacks the moral complexity that Martin frequently espouses, and so somehow rings untrue. Martin has long said the books will have a bittersweet ending. Suppose Bran is an effective ruler who ultimately does a world of good for the realms of men , but that he has been effectively “consumed” by his ascension to the mantle of the three eyed raven, lost in the overwhelming volume of thousands of years of collective experience from the children and the weirwood net, as is heavily implied by the show. That is so deliciously bittersweet that it’s hard to argue against: the good guys essentially won by sacrificing a pure, innocent, brave child to dark ritual magics. Suppose also that Bloodraven knew Jojen would have to die to get Bran to the great heart tree, but did it anyways because he deemed it a worthy sacrifice of an otherwise inconsequential pawn. This is messed up, but make no mistake: Bloodraven pulled that kind of stuff ALL the time, even before he went north of the wall and became the three eyed raven. He made lots of morally abhorrent sacrifices to work towards what he saw as the greater good (e.g. executing unarmed prisoners to quash chances for the Blackfire rebellion to resurge, manipulating Egg into causing the Summerhall incident in order to bring dragons back into the world).

This would mean that Jon Snow is being influenced as well. Just think about everything Mormont's crow has been saying to Jon.

@SarahPriceMoore

2 ай бұрын

How did ge get elected? Mormont’s crow shouted ‘SNOW!’

@PapaEmeritus_4evr

2 ай бұрын

@@SarahPriceMoore Exactly!

Well I can see that. We will have to see what George does.🤷🏼‍♀️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

If the 3 Eyed Raven allowed the Children Of The Forest to be exterminated - why did the 3 Eyed Raven become Ruler of Westeros as Bran "I'm Not Really" Stark?

Its interesting in the last small council meeting bran or Bloodraven says after asking about drogon "perhaps i can find him" lol If bran is now bloodraven, then you have an all powerful targaryen tree wizard looking for maybe the last dragon in the world. Sounds pretty ominous...

we need to have a tv series about the children of the forest

I honestly thought at one point Abram was the night king but he had used greensight to travel to the past and has taken over the mind of the night king so the one who set the whole plot of song of ice and fire was Bran. I love the idea of Bran the building being our Bran but alas, the show disappointed and I don’t know how Martin will finish his story. I do agree that Bran died in the caves or at least his mind is trapped somewhere. I believe the night king is the three eyes raven and took over Brand body. I don’t know exactly why it’s happened but I love this theory the most out of all the theories on ASOIAF. It just makes the most sense.

Powerful Greenseers either have blood red or moss green eyes, Bran had Tully blue eyes.

Can someone please tell me what the music is in the background, in this video?

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

It's the White Walker theme music from season 1

I really love this video and theory. I hope when GRRM finishes the last book, we see history repeating itself. Jon has to kill Bran. It would be so cool.

Blood Raven will snatch his body right before he dies? I'm confused - you hypothesized that Blood Raven went into Bran already when the Night King killed him - and Bran was not dead. So how is he going to go into Bran when he dies, when he is already inside him like you were saying? Maybe I am just not getting what your trying to say here - but I thought Bran already "died" in that cave when Blood Raven entered him, but his physical body never died - so if Blood Raven is already inside him, why would he have to wait until Bran's body dies to take him over?

Havent you said in an older video as well Brendan Rivers was a Targaryen bastard? Would also explain why Bran wants to know the location of Drogon at the end of GoT. If he is now actually Brendan Rivers and of Targaryen blood line. He could do alot of damage if he gets a hold of Drogon. Neat to think about.

How did the blood raven know that Bran would become a cripple from the fall and not die? Or avoid permanent damage?

Raven, crow ..samey-same

could be a dracula renfield situation maybe children have to resurrect night king every few thousand years

@greensoplenty6809

3 күн бұрын

tolkein elf thing maybe magic fading and children cant live without it type thing but rr martin usually bit more interesting than predictable stuff

Yeah the day I saw the final episode I said bran was the villain there. Only way anything about him made sense after leaving the north

So they have probably have been manipulating every Greenseer and Dreamer since the beginning. Did they orchestrate the death of the Targaryens to remove the Dragonlords?

Interesting idea, but without the books being finished for another go for the series with a better team they are only hopes for the fans.

Excellent video and intriguing theory. My one point of contention is your assertion that the Children created the White Walkers. I'm aware that the show went that way but I don't believe there's sufficient evidence in the books to indicate that the origin of the Others will be the same. Too many stories link the Others with the Long Night. Even with the subpar historians of Westeros, there's no reason to believe the Long Night coincided with the invasion of the First Men or the Andals.

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

You could be right, but there's a quote in The World of Ice and Fire that makes me believe they did

"Why do you think I came all this way?"

Are you from Philly or around that area?

@TalkingThrones

2 ай бұрын

Near Pittsburgh

@bakionigeri6414

2 ай бұрын

I'm a Jersey guy!

yup. Bran died in the cave. so new bran winning is the enemy winning. just in case danny failed it would ensure evil wins.

blood raven sounds like an evi name for sure in this series. working for evil and always meant to help the blood queen danny. Danny was born through a blood ritual. human sacrifice. thats why she has glowing purple eyes. representing blue aka good on the outside, but she's really red underneath, aka evil. which gives you purple when combined. the 3rd eye raven was evil and using Bran. turning a stark against blue aka good side.

This is interesting, but something in me doesn’t want to learn anything else about the original story since they completely botched the last season

I fully believe that the Starks arent the heros they are made out to be, and instead is a part of the "bad guys"

In the books, there is evidence that the Children of the Forest are the malevolent force controlling the others. The Order of the Green Hand channel produced some amazing videos presenting this evidence. It is a very compelling theory.

Wouldn't bloodraven say " now i become you"?

not to lead the white walkers but to lead the antichrist aka Danny to victory. which is exactly what happened. I'm curious to see what screenplays you have written sir. I'm willing to give it a read.

Just as a point of fact, a good number of characters have disappeared and believed dead and then turned alive. So, Jojin could still be alive. His fate has not been revealed as of yet. Also, Brenden Rivers has the one red eye now. Who else has a single red eye? Bran and The Crow's Eye are both agents of the great other. The difference is Bran doesn't know it yet.

Better THIS outcome, than the crap we actually got in the show. Bran becoming the eventual King of Westeros was the final loogie hawked in all of our faces, at the end of the show, which Dan & Dave had orchestrated in spite.

That last snippet you show... Says more proof. Stark of winterfell and joramun... Not King of winterfell ( i guess it's queen sansa now) and john??? Attack and end the night king once bran turns darker??

Does anyone else think that the White Walker leaders look very similar to Targaryens? The yellow hair and all?

Or maybe the age-old saying ~ EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON~is true?

maybe the children of the forest are attached to the land spiritually and cant leave it. just food for thought

Well shoot; I missed the live. And judging by the title, seems like maybe I shouldn’t ‘t have! Ah! Jane Eyre is my favorite! What, no Jane Austen??? Explosion of emotion… I wonder why we can’t stay connected with that feeling? I’ve never understood why we don’t really allow ourselves to really feel our emotions. It’s why we don’t love ourselves, I think… we don’t trust our own emotions. My own mother would often infer that my feelings, be they joyful, or sadness, were invalid. She didn’t mean to be cruel, she just wanted me to survive in a world that is tough to survive in. Very late in her life she apologized for that. I have always worn my heart on my sleeve, tho it’s a faded, muted version of it. I feel deeply, and it’s taken me this many years to even begin let the bright colors show. And I’VE been lucky! Despite my mother’s suppression of my emotional reality, she actually was loving, generous, sometimes playful… and my dad… well let’s just say that I got a LOT of gifts from both of my parents. They were flawed, imperfect, beautiful human beings. But so many don’t have what I had, so the suppression of emotions, (which is society wide) doesn’t get the counter-balance on the other side. I sometimes get a wild streak and send emails, make phone calls, text, or whatever some of my friends and just let my emotions spill. Ok, I think I will stop now because I’m thinking this may be the foundation for my next YT post. :) Tommy, I love you, I love what you do, and I pray you keep doing it… this world needs more Tommy, (and Reese, too)!

Even if Bran never led the NK to the 3 eyed Raven, the NK was coming south, I mean if he gets rid of men then the 3eyed Raven is useless his knowledge is passed to no one.

I don’t think blood raven uses crows. He doesn’t like or trust crows.

This seems too far fetched to me. How could the Blood Raven be sure that Bran wouldn’t just die after falling? Or maybe never wake up from the coma?