The chances of getting into an Ivy League university are higher than you think.
In this video, Edward explains why Ivy acceptance rates are misleading, and what the real acceptance rate is for these institutions. Do you agree? Let us know in the comments!
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Some very valid points, but I think a lot of the numbers/stats chosen are a bit optimistic
Im impressed that you only have 43 subs, this video has 14 likes, and only 304 views, but this video is actually really high quality and provides important information. Thanks, and I'm subbing for sure
Very nice video, thats a good point that most applicants are sending out more than 1 application. I bet there's a creditable survey somewhere based on the average number applications per applicant.
Watching this even though I matched with QB last week, but, you've also got to consider declining birth rates in the U.S. post 2008. The people graduating in the next few years will have less domestic competition due to there simply being less graduates. Acceptance rates are also deflated by marketing, shot gunning, and TO admissions policies. As a side note, QB finalists will likely have better overall chances of matching due to the overturning of affirmative action. Colleges will probably start looking to QB/other similar programs for diversity. This year saw a lot of schools dramatically increase their QB match rate, particularly MIT, which jumped from around 12 matches last year to 60-70 this year. The ivy plus school I matched with accepted ~30 more of us this year. Hopefully, match rates and general acceptance rates will increase.
this has already been said but great video! very happy to have come across this
It actually makes me more confident
Good video and subscribed! I thought you were going to go with the combinatorics of the situation. As many people know, if you are at a party you can often make easy money by betting that two people there have the same birthday at favorable odds. The chance is much higher than it seems, because there are more positive combinations that most people realize. The trick is that you don't care who the two people are. The same is sort of true of admissions. This is quite difficult to quantify, because the events are correlated but not well correlated. In other words, you might get into Harvard but not Yale. Someone else who is just like you has the opposite happen, but it is not for any identifiable reason whatsoever. It's just luck. Luck plays a big role when admissions officers are looking at 5 candidates who are all of very equal merit. Situations like this make the chance of hitting one or more top tier admissions much more likely that it seems, as long as you apply to many and regard any admission as a "hit.". If you watch admissions reaction videos, you see this all the time. Ivy day comes and someone gets 4 rejections, 3 wait lists, and an admission to Princeton. That is almost certainly not even close to a reproducible result.
Great video!
But on the other hand, you have people like legacies and athletes which have higher consideration and take up a significant amount of the class space
@GettingIntoUniversity
7 ай бұрын
That's a good point, we didn't talk too much about athletes. Around 10% of enrolled students are athletes, so the acceptance rate for regular people does go down a bit (from around 20% to 18%). We'll make sure to keep that in mind if we ever make another video on this subject!
@scopeclips
7 ай бұрын
The legacies are part of what makes the school valuable
@icodestuff6241
6 ай бұрын
you also have to consider race and major. Like if you are black and apply for communications major you prob have a guaranteed chance if your grades are average. But asian in cs, nope
@mrbzliteyear
5 ай бұрын
Fyi, many legacies are also athletes, so these stats are often double counted & less spots are taken than some calculate.
Yo that’s crazy amazing video
Ok so as a preface I go to Dartmouth and i’ve sorta seen the sort of student gets in and there’s a few things u didn’t think about. First, a tonnnnnn of kids get in early decision (which likely means did apply many places) the other problems are fair and i agree but legacy is much more significant than they like to let on, also they hold spots so they can say they have students from all 50 states and x countries and then they recruit athletes on top of that (well over 100 students each class if i had to guess).
Few things: You are taking a lot of the data provided at face value. The 3/4 of applicants being "actually qualified" is a vague statement thst is made by only 1 university. Secondly you need to account for the fact that the distribution of applications and distribution of repeat applications is not the same. Lastly, even post-affirmative action demographics and especially socioeconomic status play a huge role in admissions chances, since test optional admissions have made it even more ambiguous on what a "qualified applicant" even is
@ancellery6430
6 ай бұрын
Your race, income, major are by far the most important factors for how qualified you are. An average (5th decile) black applicant has over a 2x greater chance of getting in than a top 10 percent (1st decile) Asian applicant. When adjusting for GPA's, a black applicant with the same GPA as an Asian applicant will have a 20x greater chance.
This video was amazing! could you do do this with uc schools?
@GettingIntoUniversity
7 ай бұрын
If there's enough data, we can definitely make a UC version of this video. We have a few other videos coming up soon so if we do end up making a UC version, it'll be uploaded in January.
@samuellee2394
7 ай бұрын
This is a load of BS. I had a 1600 SAT, valedictorian with 4.0 unweighted, 4.8 weighted GPA. I took over 20 courses at my state college (I took all the math through graduate school classes with an A+ in every class I ever took) and 20 more at my community college all while taking an additional 8 classes per semester in High School. I was the president of the math club, robotics club, computing olympiad club, and was the software lead for the robotics club as well. We made it to worlds in the FRC robotics competition and I won dean's list in my state. I had two research papers published in high-impact journals in high-energy physics papers, and multiple awards in competitions. Guess where I got in: Harvey Mudd, UPenn, Berkeley, and literally nowhere else in the T20. Chances of getting into top schools are way way lower than you might think; a lot of it is a crapshoot.
@hopsmax2827
6 ай бұрын
@@samuellee2394 Isn't UPENN a very prestigious university? Same with Berkeley. I think a better question would be which colleges you applied to, but didn't get into. That would be interesting to hear. Honestly, based off of what you said, you definitely have an ivy-league caliber application, so I wouldn't see why they would reject you. Unless they think you're too good for them, or think you will join another university. Or maybe you messed up the essays somehow. Because you have a top 1% application, I'm sure this isn't completely standard, right?
@thecode327
6 ай бұрын
Your issue isn’t the odds being low, it’s that they don’t care about quantitative data as much as you would think. A high SAT and GPA qualifies you among the other applicants, but doesn’t get you in. Ah that does is put you on the table. Beyond that it’s going to be mostly if your essay resonated with the admissions counselor, if the major you are looking for has space, if they need a frikking oboe player. It’s randomness, beyond a point. This video is just saying “with stats of a qualified applicant, you have a fine chance of getting into at least one.” And you did get into at least one, as a qualified applicant.
@samuellee2394
6 ай бұрын
@@thecode327 I guess that makes sense. I wrote all my essays within 24-48 hours of the deadline, so maybe that played a role in my results?
Watching this even though I'm only in my second year of middle school😂
@aurora-cc6hk
7 ай бұрын
get off the internet
@fariskashtwari1857
7 ай бұрын
Good to know this as early as possible.
@schoolgirl222
7 ай бұрын
@@aurora-cc6hk lol I should do that more
@ayomide7931
6 ай бұрын
make sure to take algebra I or II during middle school
@schoolgirl222
6 ай бұрын
@ayomide7931 yeah I'm in algebra 1 so hopefully next year I'll be in geometry
interesting way of looking at it. But after u take out the 1/4 bad applicants, the 20% is pretty low for all the qualified applicants.
You think I can still get in an Ivy League even tho early action has already passed
@GettingIntoUniversity
7 ай бұрын
Yes! Most people don't get admitted through Early Decision/Early Action, so if you would've had a chance if you had applied early, you definitely have a chance if you apply Regular Decision.
@theblizardblitz2396
7 ай бұрын
@@GettingIntoUniversitythank you!
Amazing vid.
Your stats and math are all pretty good, but I feel like the concept here is perpetuating a harmful stereotype. If you are applying to college to go to the Ivy League, you are treating the college process wrong. First of all, the Ivy League schools don’t strictly refer to the best schools anymore, as the term Ivy League just refers to an old sports league. And secondly, even if this was about “top 20 schools” instead, that’s still a terrible metric. The best school for me will look absolutely nothing like the best school for someone else, so the rankings mean pretty much nothing. I know you recognize this, because you mentioned it for point 4, but I still think this perpetuates the myth of ivies being some end all be all of education. Let me repeat, nothing against you or the work you did, I just think it’s appealing to the “I’m going to apply to all ivies and nothing else because they are the best” crowd, which just isn’t too healthy.
@GettingIntoUniversity
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, that is unfortunately true. I made this video to try and explain the super-low acceptance rates and get people to be a bit more hopeful about their chances at top universities, but I can see how some people might take away the wrong message.
what makes a qualified student
@GettingIntoUniversity
7 ай бұрын
A qualified student is someone who has good GPA/test scores and would be able to handle the academic content at these universities, so this would be at least around a 3.75 Unweighted GPA and 1400+ on the SAT or 30+ on the ACT. It might be higher or lower depending on the university though. However, this is dependent from school-to-school, so if you have a 3.5 Unweighted GPA but you're in the top 2-3% of class rank because your school just marks really hard, you would also be counted as a qualified student
@davidakin3840
7 ай бұрын
i mean qualified for harvard this is too avergage@@GettingIntoUniversity
@theencryptedpartition4633
7 ай бұрын
I guess like what you can bring to the table. Like a student w perfect or excellent score but w no personal reason to pursue this major might be less appealing than a student who has a good academic score but has that reason to study this particular major. A lot of people study things like Computer Science for money, but some people like to study it to solve theoretical problems of computer to make AN IMPACT. I guess the profile distribution is different for different units, some value STEM focused, some value business oriented, some value diplomacy. But that's just my opinion on how U.S ranks students based on profile
@davidakin3840
6 ай бұрын
of course like its so easy to fake passion passion at its point is a given I'm talking like what difrentates people @@theencryptedpartition4633
Bro is acting like its easy to be "qualified"
is there a chance for me to get in with a 2.8 gpa only in 9th grade that is what is making me nervous is thre any chance????
@canaris261
7 ай бұрын
Show great improvement and uhh... maybe
@azurefps
7 ай бұрын
you gotta start showing up to classes my man
@akhilkorra9495
7 ай бұрын
Was in the same situation 4 years ago. Its very possible I did poorly in 10th also but In 11th and 12th I worked hard and got it up to around 3.3 uW so you definitely can.
@dennypg3d105
7 ай бұрын
you gotta lock in 2.8 is azz
@MSN539
7 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you just finished your 1st semester and if you were to get a 4.0 for your next 4 semesters you would be able to get around a 3.8. You can get into good schools with that GPA. You still have a chance if you can turn that 2.8 around before the semester ends if it hasn’t already to get into the prestigious colleges
This is like exactly how Taylor Swift fans determine when she's going to release an album
@harshjain6269
6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have been surprised if he added up to 13 by the end of the video 😭😭😭
please make this more interesting/engaging everyone is instagram reels no one can pay attention to this stuff
@uglybirds6965
7 ай бұрын
Wtf
@paulblart7378
6 ай бұрын
Either your comment or your intelligence is a joke
@user-mt5uu4pz4j
6 ай бұрын
@j_d1165 you're definitely not qualified to get into ivy schools. Why are your here
@j_d1165
6 ай бұрын
@@user-mt5uu4pz4j *yroeu
This is completely inaccurate
Your voice reminds me of Fireship lol
This is a load of BS. I had a 1600 SAT, valedictorian with 4.0 unweighted, 4.8 weighted GPA. I took over 20 courses at my state college (I took all the math through graduate school classes with an A+ in every class I ever took) and 20 more at my community college all while taking an additional 8 classes per semester in High School. I was the president of the math club, robotics club, computing olympiad club, and was the software lead for the robotics club as well. We made it to worlds in the FRC robotics competition and I won dean's list in my state. I had two research papers published in high-impact journals in high-energy physics papers, and multiple awards in competitions. Guess where I got in: Harvey Mudd, UPenn, Berkeley, and literally nowhere else in the T20. Chances of getting into top schools are way way lower than you might think; a lot of it is a crapshoot.
@CheeseysFunLife
7 ай бұрын
you got into one! basically proving his point lol
@paulblart7378
6 ай бұрын
Wow, what a rude way to flex your amazing achievements. I'm dreaming of getting into ANY T20's, it's ultimately a gamble what you get up there. Please, shut up and enjoy what you have. Maybe it's the attitude that held you down.
@bork5230
6 ай бұрын
I believe you are full of crap
@mangss9602
6 ай бұрын
you’re basically already done with college if u took 40 classes already bruh no need to stress man 😂
@henrysabo8218
6 ай бұрын
So you took 40 college classes and 32 high school classes? lol ok😂
I don't understand prestigemaxxing. Go to school with a good program you want to study, and in a location good for you. Prestigewhoring is not worthwhile
@hopsmax2827
6 ай бұрын
Competition is the one reason. And people love comparing themselves to others, whether that be the parents or students themselves. That's how it is.