When I visited Kanpur in the 1990's schoolchildren came up to me and apologised for the massacre of 1857. Amazing!

@TheHistoryChap

8 ай бұрын

That’s interesting thanks for sharing

@christopher9727

2 ай бұрын

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@aheat3036

2 ай бұрын

If that’s true, then you can forget about it today under their dictator Narendra Modi!… He blames everyone else for India’s abject failures except for himself and his supporters!

Excellent video I wish more people who studied history were as objective as you are you tell Both sides of the story not just one Please keep up the good work

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Very kind of you. Thanks.

@robertcottam8824

Жыл бұрын

@@rajbaniwal3236 You become tiresome, Mr. Rajput. It's really not for you, being of an heritage far more infamous than any Brit, to lecture anyone. If my ancestors were so nasty, what would that make yours, as their jack-boots - as you would term them? Very few Rajputs mutinied, sweetheart. Best wishes, nonetheless.

The Cawnpore Massacre features in Fraser's "Flashman in the Great Game", and as always Flashy is in the thick of things, despite his best endeavours to the contrary. Fraser's attention to historic detail is stunningly impressive. How he weaves it all into a rollocking tale of misadventure is a great literary achievement - a hallmark of the "Flashman" series of novels.

@kleinjahr

Жыл бұрын

Roger that!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

I think a video about Flashman would be fun!

@robertmarsh5960

Жыл бұрын

Love the Flashman books!

@nigelmansfield3011

Жыл бұрын

@@robertmarsh5960 Best books ever

@simondavies4603

Жыл бұрын

Excellent books, great story-telling, and impressively accurate recounting of notable events during the Victorian era. Flashy got around!

Another great episode. Even handed and fair account of one of the saddest parts of the revolt. Much appreciated and I am really looking forward to the next episode on this subject.Thank you for all your hard work.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support.

In the original Errol Flynn "Charge of the Light Brigade," it featured a version of Cawnpore massacre. Of course, in the movie, it happened before the Crimea War. So much for accuracy. Great Video Chris. I really enjoy being subscribed to your channel

@Isildun9

Жыл бұрын

True enough. Additionally, in the Warhammer 40k novel, "Imperial Glory" by Richard Williams, one of the focal points of background lore for the protagonist regiment, the Brimlock Dragoons, is a mutiny by several units during the siege of a world called Cawnpore, sparked by a brutal officer named Carmichael. It took me some time to realize that the story in that novel is very heavily influenced by Britain's colonial wars of the Victorian era, specifically in Afghanistan, India and South Africa. It's a decent read.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub. yes, the Errol Flynn movie plays fast and loose with history.

@robertmarsh5960

Жыл бұрын

One wonders why they called the movie "The Charge of the Light Brigade"...it has nothing to do with it until the last few minutes and then the connection is highly tenuous. An early example of history being rewritten.

@bibekjung7404

Жыл бұрын

ALMIGHTY GOD KABIR--- .. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@douglasherron7534

Жыл бұрын

@@robertmarsh5960 That's Hollywood for you! (Reminds me of a certain film about a Scottish freedom fighter...)

Thank you again Mr Green. Illuminating our incredible history in such a balanced and factual manner, a style that seems to have disappeared in recent times. Your work is so appreciated. Thank you , Derek.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words.

Brilliant historical episode! I can’t wait to see the rest of your videos on the Sepoy Rebellion.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Check them out, I have made 5.

Thank you once again Chris

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

More good and tragic stories. I am learning things in this series I haven't learned before. Keep rolling them out Chris!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Glad that you are finding interesting.

An absolutely riveting history lesson. Thank you so much Chris.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Indian history books especially school books are silent about these horrible massacres. They only make passing references about killing of women and children in the heat of the battle. Your description of events has shaken my belief on people who we Indians consider as heros.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

The fascinating thing about history is that it is all about perspectives. One person's hero is another person's villain.

@Inaf1987

Жыл бұрын

Even Nana Sahib and Mahakarnika were looking out for their own interests. If you look at which political parties benefited the most from a negative portrayal of the British, one can see why the history books covered these massacres like that.

@DaveCollins123

Жыл бұрын

Is there a nation on earth who can't say the same? In the end, we are all as bad as each other....

@mayanksingh3395

Жыл бұрын

They are still Heros to Billions of Indians including me. If I could go back in time. I will participate in this great act.

@mayanksingh3395

Жыл бұрын

They are still Heros to Billions of Indians including me. If I could go back in time. I will participate in this incredible act. No wonder everyone hates you Br*****s.

A wonderful series. Thank You!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Thanks for the effort! This is a great video and very descriptive!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Bravo been waiting for this

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed.

One of the darkest moments in Indian history, along with Jallianwala Bagh. Indian historians only prefer to show things from our perspective, this is not mentioned in any school textbooks in India. History should be taught from an unbiased perspective.

@TheHistoryChap

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. History also has consequences and it is not beyond the realms that General Dyer believed that another Indian uprising could result in another Cawnpore massacre. I don’t support his actions at Amritsar but you can see a warped logic.

@rdsc.455

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheHistoryChapEuropeans excessive imagination of artificial threats of the future !! The same rehortic is continuing presently regarding China and Russia !!

@aheat3036

2 ай бұрын

Now Modi and his supporters are attacking and killing their fellow Indians who happen to be Muslims, Sikhs and Dalits!

@Krishnan.V

Ай бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap I agree with your view pertaining to Dyer, but i feel terrible as to why the soldiers who were indians, choose to obey dyer. in school we were taught about the retribution given to sepoys, with the image of the sepoys being tied to cannon fire and then blasted away. There is no mention of Kanpur massacre, it is a very dark history, the teachers would also tell us that the british too faced hostilities, and no further details would be told.

Excellent episode indeed sir, thanks for sharing.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure

These are so well done and easy to understand Thanks again

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

I have recently found your channel and liked each of the videos I've seen thus far. Your balance, fairness and depth gives me confidence of your accuracy. One aspect I'm happy to see, and often rare to many short, homemade (for lack of a better word) docs on KZread, is your use relevant graphics. The pictures you use are directly related to the content you're describing. In other videos the makers will use pictures only very vaguely specific to the subject matter, which leaves one very doubtful they're seeing the actual person, place or thing being discussed. Thank you for the care and detail you put into your videos. It's why I've now subscribed.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for subscribing. Much appreciated

Another outstanding video!!!

@TheHistoryChap

11 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Excellent and instructive!Congratulations

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Your history programs are presented in such a profession manor turning one's interest into wanting to enjoy your other videos as well. So full of fascinating detailed facts. Viewing your videos can become habit forming! Great job, keep up the good work!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Very kind of you. Takes a heck of a lot of work!

Good research.Lot of effort has been given to prepare this episode.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Brillant historical video cant wait for the next one.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Great presentation Sir.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Honestly an unbelievably talented historian, the excrutiating detail you go into like the '8 shells a second' and '4 surivors on the one boat that got away' are top notch.. Also got the paper 1 of the A Level in 3 days, and your videos on empire provide a nice, more relaxed reivision strategy, thank you.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Glad you find them helpful

I found this channel today, eagerly waiting for the next part sir👍🏻

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Working on it as we speak. Please subscribe so you don't miss next episode. www.thehistorychap.com

Well produced and researched. Fascinating story as I have been to the modern city myself.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

Another excellent video. 👌

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Another great history lesson, thank you so much and stay well.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Thank you for your remarkable storytelling. Growing up in the states, I was taught nothing of "The Indian Mutiny" you describe. How shocking to learn about the details. My God, the suffering of the innocents! When the oppressed become the oppressors, watch out.

@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb

5 ай бұрын

Oppressed become the oppresors ? What a joke the British killed 10million + people just after the mutiny

I grew up near to two streets in Belfast named in honour of Cawnpore and Lucknow. Great video, Chris!

@redwater4778

Жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder why the British would allow any Indians into their own homeland or the colonies.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the link to Belfast.

@jeffpliskin

Жыл бұрын

Because the brit aristocracy( brit east indio Co) are overwhelmingly jewish and bankers they do not represent common anglo saxons.

Thanks for covering this, my (British) family lived in the affected regions during the munity and it was still practically in living memory for my great-grandma who raised my mum. I imagine it would've weighed heavily on the minds of all the Britons living in India after 1858. The massacre of cawnpore was certainly never forgotten in our family and I'm glad to see it getting some coverage. Rest in peace to all the innocents lost.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your family history.

@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb

5 ай бұрын

Do you have any written record of the event? Or pictures from 1850s India ?

@Dryhten1801

2 ай бұрын

@@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb Unfortunately I do not. My great gran had the family bible (and thus most of the family records and photographs) buried with her. Indeed my mum had to reconstruct our family tree herself, finding confirmation and records online that my 4x Great Grandpa + family was indeed in the area during the mutiny. The story of cawnpore was taugt to my mum as a child by my great grandma. Though interestingly she blamed the Muslims

@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb

2 ай бұрын

@@Dryhten1801 also... there's a big deal that I am getting about Indian men of that era being extraordinarily tall. Especially the gangetic plains were said to be inhabited by extremely tall men. There are few records if you dig deeper. And also , there's this special record that says that Scottish highlanders were specifically called to counter these gigantic tall sepoys of India. Interestingly enough, both these indo aryan gangetic plains men and the Scottish highlanders have same paternal Y haplogroup R1a1a Z93

Another great video mate. Can't wait for you to cover the Queen of Jhansi. Did you know there is a poem called "jhansi Wali Rani" (the queen from jhansi) that is taught even today in schools. Further, 1857 mutiny/rebellion/war of independence is not known in great detail to most. However you're doing a great job covering it in such a balanced way. I'd love to see you cover the Jalian walah bagh incident sometime. I believe it's very important to know history as it happened with an unbiased lense. Only then can we forgive the sins of our past and get along with each other better. Just to accept that wrongs were done, and crimes were committed, is bigger than any monitary sum as compensation.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

The Rhani (Queen) of Jhansi is coming soon. Need to get siege of Lucknow out of the way first. I will cover the Amritsar Massacre at some stage later thgis year (along with the Black Hole of Calcutta).

@adisura9904

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap that's good to know. Looking forward to it. Cheers mate 🍻🍻

@douglasherron7534

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap I presume the Jhansi video will also include the massacre of women and children there too?

@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheHistoryChapyou haven't covered anything. Who will tell about the 10 million civilians that the British killed?

Simply another excellent piece Chris ! For years my knowledge of the mutiny was confined to the two novels “the siege of krishnapur” and “Dando on Delhi ridge” recently I’ve started researching it properly and this is a proper kick start for me, how about a feature on William Hall VC ?

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and supporting me.

@robertcottam8824

Жыл бұрын

Or Kavanagh VC? I love his portrayal by George M-F.

Thank you for such an interesting talk. 👍👍👍👍

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Absolutely Excellent!!!!!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thamnk you.

You just earned a new subscriber

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Thank you Chris for the 3rd and final part, really enjoyed; it's nice to relive the memories of History, l can only just remember the lessons we had about life in India under the East India Company some 55y years ago, l like history

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Glad that you are enjoying. Thanks for your support.

@floorskins1108

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap Nana sahib was currying flavour ,,,,,me thinks,,,taint half hot mum,,,,,SHUTUP

Great rendition,great story teller!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Chris your stuff is so interesting. I love hearing these stories as an American whose people were early colonists here

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Glad you find them interesting. Thanks.

wow excellent video

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Brilliant, thank you.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

as a young Indian student with an amateur interest in History and part of the Bengali Military heritage , i particularly left out the Indian British Era as most of the time i only received one sided information, be it in my school history books and other sources and as result i never was able to connect the dots, atrocities were committed by us and i am not scared of saying this as an Indian, as we as well need to learn the repercussions and reasons for it and do better .Your video sir, this right here sets the record straight and im thankful for the unbiased and raw reality of such conflicts and now honestly i might as well shift my focus from the American War of Independence to the Indian British conflicts . I guess i gotta subscribe now😆

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words of support. I'm glad that you are finding my videos helpful.

fantastic work, please tell more

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

More coming soon.

good video keep them coming

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Will do.

Great job.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Properly excellent post my friend, highest props to you.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Very kind. Thanks.

Another great episode. Chris have I missed something, why just audio in your latest posts?

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean. Do you mean why don't I appear on camera or why am I offering a podcast option?

@Mark-lx6xj

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap sorry yes why are you not appearing on camera.

Your explanation is very good about 1857 Indian mutiny and co incidentally i am also reading a book on Indian mutiny 1857

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad you are enjoying.

Brilliant!!!!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

In the movie The Charge of the Light Brigade (1936) there is an scene in the river, very similar to your description. Obviously inspired by this event. One of those who escapes is Errol Flynn.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Someone else has just made the same comment.

@JohnM-cd4ou

Жыл бұрын

Errol Flynn was the original Flashman

As an Indian, I feel that the massacre of Bibhighar, the massacre of women and children by Nana Saheb was shameful and barbaric. May their souls rest in peace.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for those thoughtful sentiments.

@dilipkumar3620

6 ай бұрын

British ne kitne massacre kiye h genocide kiye h pta bhi h

@davidw1634

6 ай бұрын

@@dilipkumar3620oh shut up Any damage or massacre done by the British would have been vastly minimal when compared to that of the Indians

@ektorpolykandriotis635

6 ай бұрын

are you even remotely aware of how many barbaric massacres and how much injustice has been perpetrated by the British against numerous peoples?

@mudra5114

6 ай бұрын

@@ektorpolykandriotis635 Mostly propaganda.

Very interesting and informative. Good show ..i used to be based in Lucknow Barracks ..

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your own connection to the story.

Just wanted to say that you've been killing lately Chris; not that you don't always put out quality content at a steady clip! Maybe I feel this way because this topic is one that I know little about; needless to say, my American education didn't cover the Sepoy Rebellion, or really any Victorian era English colonialism. Hopefully this comment helps appease the Algorithm Gods; keep up the good work!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

It was not something I was taught about in England either. Thanks for your comment.

@damodaran2629

Жыл бұрын

The American education system make them the most ignorant people in the whole world. Americans think that the US is the whole world and the rest of the world is some other planet not worth their precious time to waste to know about. May be this is the reason they are hated all over the world except for some European countries

@robertcottam8824

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap Nor I, Chris. The Raj was touched upon, no more. But - giving my age away - I had a history teacher who had been in the Indian Civil Service in the late '30s. He was 'head-of-table during school mealtimes. A most engaging and capable man: the sort of teacher who 'inspires'. I'm still interested nearly half-a-century on. I sincerely hope that you similarly-create such lasting interests. I believe you will.

Great vid ! As a young lad growing up in the 50’s and 60’s , hearing the words , “ Black hole of Calcutta “was quite common. I am fascinated by the little personal details , like at the end of this vid ! Did you ever hear of the two English ladies who walked into the British Embassy in Kabul at the beginning of the 1900’s ? Survivors of the retreat from Kabul in the 1830’s ? And please ,could you recommend a good book about the “ Mutiny “ ? I have read the Booker prize winning “Siege of Crishnapore “ . Great book for details !

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

I find Saul David's book "The India Mutiny" pretty good.

@curiouskid1547

Жыл бұрын

Black hole never happened

Hi Chris, very well narrated as always. On a side note I used to live in the Havelok ward in Portsmouth, i had absolutely know idea why it was called that but a quick search shows me that it was a district of Southsea laid out after 1857, with roads named after soldiers who took part in the suppression of the Indian Mutiny in that year. More or less unchanged to this date as memory recalls. It used to be pronounced "Hav e lock", whether that is right or wrong I have no idea!! Look forward to the next installment. Have a great weekend and good luck from Spain!!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

I love it how road names link to events and people in Britain's history. Wishing you a great weekend, from a pretty overcast Worcester.

@jcoker423

Жыл бұрын

West Perth (WA) also has many streets named after great British Generals..... shhh.... they'll want to rename them. Play Up Pompey !

Excellent video on a forgotten past of the Jewel in the British Empire.

@TheHistoryChap

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Very interesting

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

icreasingly impressed by your programmes. You aren't quite Richard Holmes but far far better than the ' my dad works in media..'..Dan Snow well done mate enjoy ya programmes and have seen you get better thumbs up and power to ya

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

I will take that compliment, thanks.

Very interesting thank you. I worked in the foreign and commonwealth office. Their were many paintings,(like the releif of Lucknow). and pictures of india, the garrisons, garrison lists, administration documents, administration agents, missionary stations, hospitals, schools, and the indian civil service. A very interesting subject. Thank you for bringing this back to the public eye.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

Im from india 🇮🇳 as indian i know my histrory but thanks for giving information about my history. Cownpore know days known KANPUR famous city for education in North India.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Good to know that Kanpur is famous for education. Far more productive than fighting.

@bclassic2474

Жыл бұрын

Never knew about eduction but definitely know as machester of East due to many mills and leather industry. A major polluter city along ganges

@utkarshverma4365

9 ай бұрын

@@bclassic2474 it is a major polluter along Ganges, but because of it's historical prosperity it has very old and well established educational institutions, some came after independence, some are from colonial period, but certainly Kanpur is the most prominent educational hub in Uttar Pradesh (Indian State previously known as United Provinces in colonial Period). But sad to see the downfall of Kanpur nowadays, it is not making any advancements, the growth in Kanpur has stagnated, old manufacturing units dying, no new development, no investment in this region. I have been to that well and seen the Church from outside, the region around well has now converted to a Community Park known as Nana Rao Park, and the church is interestingly not open to public.

Indian Historians call it the " First War of Independence" Never mind the fact that there were no subsequent "wars of independence" 1857 was a sepoy mutiny that snowballed into a widespread mayhem with individual kings jumping in to , basically, grind their own axe. There was no centralized command structure and no common game plan. Indian subcontinent was a mass of kingdoms and principalities, big and small , and each was technically an independent country. The concept of a united India really blossomed in the late 1800s when Allan Octavian Hume founded the Indian National congress in the 1880s. Annie Besant would also join the Indian National Congress and become President circa 1917 / 1918. But fact remains that the 1857 war / mutiny brought out the worst barbaric and brutal demons in what were essentially human beings. Both sides competed with each other in the most heinous cruelty . Sadly, some 150 something years later we still havent learnt of the futility of legalized mass murder ....................... aka WAR

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

@trigcat3107

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, the term BharatVarsha dates back to ancient Mahabharata times and there are sanskrit and Tamil text which resemble that they had close affinity with each other, other than Hindu principles. A.O hume came very late in picture and sorry brits weren't the ones who united they rather extorted Indian masses to their favor

@jsbedi60

Жыл бұрын

@@trigcat3107 There is no factual evidence that Mahabharat and Ramayan actually happened. Mythology is always a mix of fact and fiction. Now, Ramayana supposedly happened 40 to 70 Thousand years ago. That is the time when Neanderthals roamed the planet. So were the Ramayan characters neanderthals ??? Read actual established history and not invented history that RSS loves to peddle.

Very nice video

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

India and Britain have a long history - some of it good and some of it bad - but it is the journey both peoples have travelled.

@banerjeesiddharth05

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap ...very true sir.

A depressing subject, but a near faultless presentation. Bravo.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Great explanation of the events. I am researching Capt. Athill Turner and family, all died at Cawnpore.

@TheHistoryChap

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching my video and for taking the time to comment

Have you read Byron Farwell’s Books Armies of the Raj and Queen Victoria’s Soldiers. Both are incredibly comprehensive works cover this time period and subjects.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Yes I have. Often use as one of my sources.

Fascinating.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Following your videos of the Indian Mutiny closely as i`m the great great great great grandson of Col William Havelock (14th Light Dragoons) and older brother of Gen Sir Henry Havelock.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Now that is a pretty cool family tree. The best I have uncovered is that one of my ancestors married one of the Huggins painters (They painted images of the EIC ships).

@stormshadow5283

Жыл бұрын

Do you still live in Britain or the US or elsewhere?

@Climpus

Жыл бұрын

@@stormshadow5283 Yes he does.

@Xabia18

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap PS it is pronounced Have-lock not hayve-lock

another very well told story, it certainly got my blood up!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

You can see why British retribution was so viscious.

@ramdev9578

Жыл бұрын

Churchill was correct. The natives cannot rule themselves. This is why Rishi Sunak rules the barbarians and Pakistani men groom and knock up white English lasses. Can't blame the lasses, their men have all become liberals and cant perform. And of course, Indians are the biggest employers in the Kingdom. Did you guys Heat or Eat today? Cost of living crisis pretty bad eh? Poverty. Enjoy the coronation. Still a monarchy, no written constitution and Camilla is your Queen Concubine. In a past life she may have lived in the Ladies Room in Cawnpore.😂 🤣 😅

Here in Northern Ireland there are a few buildings and streets named after General Havelock. It's pronounced Have Lock, as in to have/ possess.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@charlieross-BRM

10 ай бұрын

I live 15 minutes from the town of Havelock in Ontario, Canada.

Quite harrowing, must have been hard to narrate this but you came over quite professional in my humble opinion.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Very kind of you.

Very informative and unbiased video. Though I doubt whether it was really Tatya Tope who was responsible for bibighar massacre. The rebels were hard to control and could have taken this heinous action on their own. Whatever the case, such genocide should have never happened.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding your perspective on Tatya Tope.

@abhishekpawar8458

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap Could you please also create a video on second anglo maratha war. I searched for it online but found very less informative videos. Would love to hear about Wellesley's feats in your voice

Just a correction sir, the picture at 6:46 isnt of Jwala Prasad. Rather it seems to be of Tatya Tope, another one of the rebel commanders, later captured and executed. Just my opinion, if I am wrong, please guide to a trusted source.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

_Our Bones Are Scattered: The Cawnpore Massacres And The Indian Mutiny of 1857_ by Andrew Ward.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

There had been other civilian massacres before Cawnpore - notably that at Jhansi on 8th June. Also, the promise of safe passage that turned out to be a lie is eerily reminiscent of the situation during the retreat from Cabul/ Kabul in 1842...

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@douglasherron7534

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap Thanks for another excellent video!

If I remember correctly, Kipling wrote a little story involving a Mariboo stork and a Mugger reminiscing about the good food they had back then.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Excellent video, as always, and a great choice of subject. Interesting detail, that the rift between British and Indians became bigger, as more British women arrived. I'd never understood where that "aloofness" came from. After all, what's the point of spending a big part or most of your life in a country where you despise the locals and their customs? Thank you!

@TheHistoryChap

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback

The character of Cpt. Gordon, an Irish despised by the Anglos and beloved by the locals who also forms a relationship with an Indian woman, in the 2005 Indian movie "The Ballad of Mangal Pandey" is heavily influenced by Sir Hugh Wheeler

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

@ioannisstratakis7930

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap furthermore the sepoy mutiny and a siege through not specified are part of the plot in an episode of the adventures of Sherlock Holmes by the title of the crooked man which is the tale of a soldier that was captured and forced to endure years of torture and slavery resulting in severe deformities. It's fascinating how close and dear India was to the heart of people just a century ago especially looking at it through Doyle's writings where everyone who is anyone has been in India serving in some capacity.

@bazzatheblue

Жыл бұрын

So many Britons went to India to serve the company ,the civil service or the military and as a consequence many were born there and lived their whole lives there in the 250 years of its colonisation and today after so many years since 1947 there are few left and it seems so remote now but they are still around,famously actress Joanna Lumley who was born in India.her father was an administrator of a region I believe,but that time is drawing to a close and soon it’ll be just for the history books .I’m sure there are Anglo Indians around still but not sure where they consider home.

@abhijeetmacho1027

Жыл бұрын

He converted into Muslim religion and was with mutineers and he killed many in Delhi

@anthonytroisi6682

10 ай бұрын

Princess Diana reportedly was the descendent of an Anglo-Indian union. Merle Oberon had Indian heritage that she tried to keep hidden. Other famous people of Anglo-Indian descent are Vivien Leigh, Ben Kingsley, and George Orwell.

I really feel sorry for those hapless European women and children who were mercilessly slaughtered in Cawnpore and other places

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Murdering civilians is always a low no matter who does it.

The bengal army consisting mostly of upper caste Brahmans and Rajputs along with Muslims from Awadh was used to conquer the Sikhs and Gorkhas who had occupied Garhwal and Kumaon. The East India Company then recruited these warriors in large numbers. (Sikhs and Gorkhas)The Bengal Army ,which had mutinied ( ,because of the issue of cartridges greased with beef and pork tallow, which had to be opened by biting of the end, before loading of the newly issued Enfield rifle) was crushed with Sikh and Gorkha troops , who took this opportunity to avenge their earlier defeat by these Bengal Army regiments. The British stopped further recruitment from eastern u.p. and Bihar , and those soldiers who managed to escape the vengence of the British became outlaws, surviving in the rugged ravines and forests of Bundelkhand. Many of them migrated to south india and settled down there.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to write this in-depth post

Thank you, for touching on this most tragic and haunting history of this 19th century conflict, with sensitivity and objectivity. Wars bring out the best and worst behavior within humanity. Sadly, horrific atrocities continue to happen in the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries with the current wars in Syria, Ukraine and other places. Humankind never learns from history and tends to repeat the sins of the past.

@redwater4778

Жыл бұрын

Events like these are race specific. You can't act if if this was a normal thing in war.

@surajbiradar9827

Жыл бұрын

​@@redwater4778Even jallianwala bagh massacre race specific? Not to forget there was no war at that time.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

A sensitive time in British history. Would be much easier to talk about the Tudors!

@abhinavpankaj4798

Жыл бұрын

Most Tragic?? Heard of Jallianwala Bagh Massacre? In that incident there wasn't even a war going on!

@tankgirl2074

Жыл бұрын

@@abhinavpankaj4798 What comes before affects what comes later. You don't need wars for massacres. Jallianwala Bagh wasn't tragic... it was murder. As much as I dislike Wiki, this does give some background on it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

as an American I have a little bit more respect about British history everytime I hear more about it. good show!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Not always glorious but always interesting!

We have a Lucknow Place and Havelock Street in West Perth in Western Australia. The effect on the British all over the world was truly devastating. The feelings of treachery and disloyalty, palpable. When I grew up in the 1950's we were still taught about the mutiny.

@abhinavpankaj4798

Жыл бұрын

Treachery and Disloyalty?? Why Indians should have been loyal to blood thirsty Britishers? Heard of Jallianwalan Bagh Massacre?

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Do one on the battles between the British and Kunwar Singh, one of the most prominent and undefeated rebel leaders.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

I will add to my list.

I remember reading of “two daughters of the regiment”, (Royal Artillery), selling their lives dearly.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Not sure if that was factual or slightly romanticised at the time.

@jon9021

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap yes, not sure. Probably the latter.

Another excellent episode. The retribution the British Army and Government brought against the mutineers, (“remember Cawnpore!”), may have been disproportionate, but it was definitely “effective”…for want of a more suitable word.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@cheramanirumborai7181

Жыл бұрын

Yes. 6,000 Brits died in the mutiny but 800,000 Indians died from related events!

@djmoh.6509

Жыл бұрын

Happy to see UK doing down. UK represents terror, evil and dirty people.

@douglasherron7534

Жыл бұрын

@@cheramanirumborai7181 Your comment has the same ring of truth as that promise of safe passage to Gen.Wheeler...

@phoenix51472

Жыл бұрын

​@@douglasherron7534 for every British dead (who invited you to come to India anyway) a thousand Indians died in famines and massacres thanks to the British

Would love to know your thoughts on the origins of the Begum's manifest hatred towards her helpless prisoners. One could call it psychopathic, but one would like to try to understand her merciless determination to exterminate everyone in the Bibighar.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Not sure why she had this view. Her lover also hated the British. It seems that his mother might have been one of their “camp followers” and he was ashamed and loathed them in equal measure.

Please make a video on Jalianawalabagh massacre.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Bit out of scope for my military history but it is certainly a story that should be told.

Hope you do a video on siege of bharatpur.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Someone else in India has just requested that one too, so I will add to my list.

20:56 Also, this had been used in medieval times against master-gunners who were captured. Due to extreme losses and near-magical nature of chemical reactions, operating cannons was still considered to be part of the 'black arts', so that plus the casualties they had inflicted meant that master-gunners were often executed by tying them to their own cannons and firing them.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding that information.

@paulbromley6687

10 ай бұрын

Not a bad way to go fast and relatively humane,

Man's inhumanity to knows no boundaries, we never learn

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, we don't seem to.

Any chance you could do video on Anglo-Nepalese War and the Gurkhas.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Both are on the cards. Bear with me. Please do subscribe or join my newsletter (www.thehistorychap.com) so you don't miss them.

Like the Maps! Bophal rings a bell!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@wonderworld7721

Жыл бұрын

It is Bhupal, not "Bophal".. there is a case call 'Bhupal gas tragedy', is an another case/event from Bhupal in modern time, can check it... same as chernobyl ..

@IntheBlood67

Жыл бұрын

@@wonderworld7721 Thanks for the correction. I remember when it was a major event on the evening News. I always remembered it as the "Bhopal Tragedy".

@IntheBlood67

Жыл бұрын

I just checked it out,slick! It was Bhopal after all! Gosh, I had forgotten to place an h in the spelling!

Wondering if you could comment (if you've ever seen it) on the riverside ambush in the old Errol Flynn movie, Charge Of The Light Brigade, and whether it was a re-enactment of the Satichaura Ghat. The drawing of the garrison being murdered in the river always struck me as a template for what was shown in the movie. PS Interesting footnote about Margaret Wheeler.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Gosh a long time since I watched that film. really can't comment but it wouldn't surprise me.

@kmorton54

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I think it was their intention. The evil Khan was later killed by Errol Flynn during the Charge of the Light Brigade. Errol ran him thru with his lance before he died.

@howardjolley2215

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHistoryChap Having just watched it recently, the movie had the garrison, under arms, move to the river where boats were waiting. While the British soldiers and all the civilians were loading, Surat Khan, the rebel leader, ordered his men to open fire. Many soldiers and civilians were killed and the rest, except Flynn and Olivia de Havilland, who escaped (Surat Khan owed his life to Capt. Vickers (Flynn) and allowed him to escape). The survivors of the ambust were rounded up and taken back to the fort, where the women and childern were massacred in a building and the men outside the building. It is very similiar to Cawnpore.

@douglasherron7534

Жыл бұрын

@@howardjolley2215 More than "similar" I would say. Almost definitely based on Cawnpore (including where/how the British were besieged before the massacre at the river).

I read a book where some chap called Sir Harry Paget Flashman survived .

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

The great survivor.

According to some Indian historians, the first shot was fired from the boat. But, anyway, whatever the truth, it was a most despicable event. The other one was simply ghastly. The Bibi, the mastermind, without whom the butchers wouldn't have arrived, however somehow escaped!

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this sad chapter in history.

I've read about the Sepoy Mutiny many years ago. After the mutiny was suppressed with much violence and bloodshed all around, the British launched a wave of retribution throughout the former mutiny region. The Indians named that time, "The Devil's Wind". When Nana Sahib, his supporters, mutinying sepoys, and the rest butchered the surrendered British soldiers and their women and children, this brought to an end any possibility of a remotely civilized suppression of the mutiny. The British would not encounter this same magnitude and degree of savagery and brutality in war until they faced the fanatical Japanese Army in World War Two.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Interesting link to the Japanese. Thanks for sharing.

Their is a beautifull book on the subject called The flight of the pigeons written by Ruskin Bond which was later made into a beautifull movie called Junoon in 1978 by the famous Film Director Shyam Benegal. It is a must see movie, do not miss it.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@matvimat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the name of the movie. I couldn't recall the name. Now I'll watch it.

The Anglo Indian community is little remembered or discussed. They were a key part of British India, both in the civil service and particularly in the railways. Many left after partition, to the UK, Canada and Australia.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Yeah, very interesting. Never heard of this before. The Black Hole of Calcutta yes but not this event. I feel so bad for the children.

@TheHistoryChap

Жыл бұрын

Black Hole of Calcutta is coming later this year.