The Car That Killed VW Motorsports - Driving and Tearing into the MK8 Golf GTI TCR
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►2019 was a phenomenal year for FCP Euro and its motorsports team. Fielding two cars in the SRO TC America championship lead to a crushing manufacturers and drivers championship at seasons. Unfortunately, Volkswagen decided to leave the championship on a high note and elected to forego production of a new Mk8-based GTI touring car, or so we thought. Friend of FCP Euro and Orchid Euro owner, Jamie Orr, took a trip to VW's secret warehouse and discovered the singular functioning prototype Mk8 TCR racer unreleased by VW Motorsports.
The Mk8 TCR represents what could've been for VW and FCP Euro Motorsports, say, maybe another championship or two. Although that never happened, VW was kind enough to ship the prototype over, along with their one-of-one Golf A59, and give it to FCP Euro for a day at Lime Rock Park. With FCP Euro Motorsports Director and former driver of the #72 FCP Euro Motorsports Golf TCR Nate Vincent at the wheel, watch as we get to know the prototype and put it through its paces.
00:00 - Getting Familiar With the Volkswagen Mk8 GTI TCR Prototype
01:40 - Initial Impressions Inside the Mk8 TCR
02:05 - First Drive in the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR
04:05 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Anti-Lag
05:35 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Post Drive Impressions
08:00 - Under the Skin of the Mk8 GTI TCR Prototype
08:34 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine
10:21 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Cooling System
11:38 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine Mounts and Bracing
12:23 - Lowering COG in the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Engine Bay
13:10 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Aerodynamics
18:44 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Rear Wing
19:22 - Getting Underneath the Volkswagen Mk8 TCR
19:35 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Front Suspension Adjustments
20:50 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Exhaust System
21:27 - Transmission Comparison Between the MK8 TCR and MK8 GTI Street Car
22:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Front Subframe Analysis
23:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Rear Suspension Layout and Tuning
25:20 - Volkswagen Mk8 TCR Interior
29:27 - Wrap-Up
Special thanks to: Jamie Orr & Volkswagen Classic
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Amazing work Nathan and the FCP Euro video team! Extra cool seeing your insight based on your racing (and winning) of the Mk7 ❤ And huge thanks again to Volkswagen Classic for helping make this happen, it’s wild that this car was saved and preserved, instead of just crushed and never being seen.
@hotshotfx3502
Жыл бұрын
👍 😃
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
We hope the people who worked so hard to bring this car to life, and those who gave us the opportunity to let it speak for itself on the track can sit back and enjoy this piece as well!
That car didn't kill VW motorsports. VW still trying to make ammends for the emissions scandal they had a few years back is what killed VW motorsports.
@affendyismail2136
Жыл бұрын
Bla bla bla BLA BLA,
@malcolmn.5222
Жыл бұрын
@@affendyismail2136 ?? Don't like the truth?
@GoldNargacuga
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmn.5222 No one does lol. But I agree with you.
@mamixon100
Жыл бұрын
Referencing TCR not VW motorsports. They're past diesel gate. It's VAG.
@muhamadaiman8683
Жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstood the words kiled
Another one I am super proud to be a part of. Thank you to Jamie Orr and Volkswagen Classic for making this video become a reality!
Sweet 8 ounce baby Jesus…the production on this video is NEXT LEVEL😍😍😍😍😍
@jameswilliam3792
Жыл бұрын
8 ounce 2 pounds with a full head of teeth.
@sardonicspartan9343
Жыл бұрын
Looks like old Top Gear.
I feel like a more fitting title would be "the car that died with VW motorsport". Jamie Orr is an incredible person, and it was really nice to meet him on multiple occasions. I know he was busy at the L'oe Show, VAG fair, ect over the last few years- but he always made time to speak to me and my group of friends that accompanied me. Was able to see this and the A59 in person (dont tell anyone, but I touched em)- and coming from a background in mechanical engineering- they're both really impressive in person.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
So glad you got a chance to see both the A59 and Mk8 TCR in the flesh...and don't worry, your secret is safe with us, and literally everyone else who watches this video 🤫😁
absolutely love the videos like this and the A59, would love to see more touring car or street ish prototype content that the world hasn't seen before. keep up the amazing work guys
I love TCR I wish the US embraced it more and I know of Pilot Challenge. We run a TCR series weekly in RaceRoom.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
We wish the same Derek- its hands down some of the best racing , with some of the best cars on a racetrack anywhere. Perfect blend of relatable and aspirational soon.
This is an awesome piece. Very rare look at a cutting edge current generation TCR machine. Much appreciated--thanks!
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
Congrats guys. This is FANTASTIC content. 👏👏
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
What a splendid video and what an opportunity to learn more of the MK 8 TCR race car that never was. I really hope that VAG eventually makes it back to TCR world or a similar world-class homologated tourism racing series. In the meantime, I will keep on racing my MK 7 TCR and enjoying it every second.
We had an old BTCC Toledo/Leon Supercopa Hybrid built by Seat Sport UK using the spares bin with a TDi engine. Those Toledo's had the exact same Camber and Toe adjustment as the Mk8 and Gen 2 Leon TCRs in 2004ish. When you have 3 or 4 races a day you don't have time for strings! Thanks for the video, I did a much less professional version looking around our RS3 TCR!
Realy great car! Thank you for this Video. And what is with the 2017 Polo WRC???
Awesome little beast. Lime rock looks amazing in the fall.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Truly special place during peak fall.
Gorgeous and impressive engineering
Great video
I love my mk8 gti. That tcr exhaust is amazing!
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
It sounded amazing out there... glad you're enjoying your MK8!
Why why in hell did VW stop this 😳 massive disappointment do we know why they didn’t go there with it ? I’m a massive VW Golf fan 🙌 got a MK7R with FBO’s and E85 600HP and I just absolutely love soo seeing this was amazing seen some other companies with pictures but see it and hear it so amazing thank you
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Mk8 TCR is a casualty of the overall direction of the business. We were disappointed to find out it had even existed in the first place, and now after having spent time with the car even more disappointed since it is such a huge step up in competition and performance!
@shepardman993
Жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro so devastating what a amazing car
this is an absolutely brilliant vid!!! but....what are the geometry specs? it should be awesome to take a look and learn a bit more about that :D
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Sadly we didn't have enough time with the car to take any measurements...
Man those wheels look sooooo good
Really sad vw mk8 tcr never got into proper production. Im so so happy with my mk8gti from Malaysia and hope to replicate that tcr brake air ducts for my time attack in sepang international circuit.
They killed this because of their focus on electric power. They pulled out of the TCR completely, worldwide. Sad really because it meant Audi, Seat etc were gone too. For a few years VW won championships etc. I think it's death knell was dieselgate. What a thing though. I'm extremely disappointed. When I see the series in the US it is dominated by Hyundai. ...
@Dukes3677
Жыл бұрын
And vw could've killed them if they kept at it
Love the beauty of engineering. Sad they didn't go through with the project. I wonder if there's a reason for it.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
There really is something magical about proper touring car engineering at its finest. A shame VW left motorsport as a whole, and this being the last glimmer of hope left behind.
@chir0pter
Жыл бұрын
the reason for it is misplaced climate hysteria
@chir0pter
Жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro Porsche can't go public soon enough. Dieselgate broke VW
@ivdubgti
Жыл бұрын
They got Woke now they going broke
@chir0pter
Жыл бұрын
@Joseph C. Porsche makes beaucoup from sports cars, just like Ferrari
I really want that wheel design for my RS3!
That car looks baaaad so sick bros ❤️🔥
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
It's one bad bit - drives as good as it looks!
They did make a limited production Golf TCR Edition. So I am a little confused when you said that they never made a production version of the Gold TCR. what makes this prototype tcr so special?
WOW!!! The GTI mk8 is AMAZING!!! .
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Truly is mirk pro - kills us to know it never had a proper chance.
Who's here after VW announced that they are reviving the Mk8 TCR for the Nurburgring 24h?
@fcpeuro
19 күн бұрын
👀
Hooligan will be having the TCR VW GTI mk8. Peeps from L.A. or Long Beach. Should go ck it out
Great stuff, as a VAG driver n owner for 3 decades, I want one in my garage 😀
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Closest any of us will ever get to that is a poster on our wall 😥
How would have they done WRC car if not for dieselgate? I think think it would be better than the Yaris
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Would have been super competitive without a doubt.
Thanks to Jamie Orr for making this possible
YAH buddy💪🏽
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Yesssssssirrr!
Noce! Wish I could own one.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
So do we Joseph 😂
Nice F1 t shirt
At first I thought it was a Scirocco R
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Another cool car from VW!
They need to sell these!
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
We'd be first on the list to purchase!
@ojj5643
Жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro TCR is dead ....the name TCR will never be on a Golf again. Only the MK 7.5 was branded and sold outside the USA in a TCR Version. VW is also thinking to stop the Golf production. Forever. They are looking forward to push the ID. electric Cars.
What's the difference between this and the blue cars that VW South Africa was racing?
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
The "GTC" cars in South Africa are quite different. As quick as we can: TCR cars are a global specification for FWD-only touring cars. They have a spec wing and splitter, as said in the video, and all make around 350hp. They are based on the factory chassis, and carry over quite a few parts from the street cars most of the time. The GTC cars raced in South Africa are a class that is only raced in South Africa. The cars are a space-frame (aka tube fame) chassis, with a Golf body placed on top - but perhaps most interestingly, they are a longitudinal located engine (the standard GTI is transverse) and the GTC car is also rear wheel drive...and makes something like 600hp. Both very cool cars, but very different from each other.
Volkswagen South Africa races two Golf 8 GTIs in the local Touring Car series....
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Ya, they are some beautiful pieces of engineering as well but much different as they are GTC cars not homologated TCR's.
The TCR is a really cool car. What it puts down on paper definitely translates to your own hands while driving. BUT it’s expensive, and for it’s expense, there is just way more thrill to be had with a RWD platform.
@TassieLorenzo
Жыл бұрын
TCR and GT4 race cars are about the same price and do about the same laptimes AFAIK. Given GT4s are based on more exotic cars like Caymans and AMG GTs, the running costs for things like engines and body panels are probably a bit higher.
Does it have auto car play ?
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
AND cruise control.
Man.... VW and their Motorsport division really, really dropped the ball. Their embrace of the illogical, unsustainable electrictrification movement is such a gut punch to those of us who love cars. Technology improving is always cool, but at the expense of the driving experience and driver control? No thank you.
@tredfxman
10 ай бұрын
Just so happy i got to buy the GTI Clubsport MK7 back in 2017 here in Europe, Sweden. Before VW decided to drop the ball for real car fans! Still own it & keep modding alittle year by year. You can check some vids on my build browsing my channel.
Does it jump
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
It will if you want it to 😁
It makes me happy it's a "gti"
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Golf R is cool but GTI is the original :)
I mean, why?
Anyway .... MK 7.5 will be the one and only real GTI TCR ever.
@ojj5643
Жыл бұрын
@@quicktoreason2722 ??? What are ya talking about ??? The MK7.5 TCR is a real GTI that was sold regular in Europe and other Countries limited -like South Africa / Australia
@dont5363
11 ай бұрын
@@ojj5643 Yes and i own one 🤩 Love from Belgium
I get alot of hate but man I love my gti's , Biden and his wonderful ideas we can even charge cars but let's kill production
No VW just always kills off race cars.. just look at all the past cars. Its almost like clockwork. "Hey lets make a racecar" ok.. "Now that we have 2 glorious models made lets just put it back into storage for 30 more years." " sounds good to me"
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
...you're not wrong. 😥
Why VW? Why?
dude sitting in a race car saying it feels like a mark 7 lmao
@3for4PA
Жыл бұрын
😩.... maybe wrong COMPARISON I getcha
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Nate was referring to the MK7 GTI TCR Racecars we raced for years, not just any ordinary Mk7 😁
Bet you anything Porsche had lots to do with this.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
(puts on tinfoil hat) Tell us more
😪🤧🤕
Battery cars are a scam.
Why did VW pull the plug? Politics and $$?
@zeitgeist2720
Жыл бұрын
Politics had nothing to do with it
@vividvulpe9842
Жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeist2720 politics within Volkswagen, you silly
@lcameeno1
Жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeist2720 yeah politics within vw you ninny
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
Our best guess is that as they are part of a much larger group, other brands (Audi, Porsche, SEAT, Lamborghini) were allowed to continue with ICE motorsport projects, but VW was moved away from this and focused on electric.
@vividvulpe9842
Жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro Understandable
lolz wearing a suit.
@fcpeuro
Жыл бұрын
"Dress for the job you want, not the job you have" :) (also Nate used to drive one of our Mk7 GTI TCRs in TC America.) Check it out here! kzread.info/head/PLe_--lhvXud-VLMINQnox8R9nYq5Q-zOk
Crap build quality and the Taos plus lying killed VW.