The car industry is lying to you (part 2) Feat. ReDriven | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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  • @dandeeteeyem2170
    @dandeeteeyem21702 ай бұрын

    For a dirty old man, your ethical backbone, and moral fortitude is impeccable. Never sell out and you'll have fans for life ❤

  • @dn059

    @dn059

    2 ай бұрын

    I told you these bots are getting absurd 😂

  • @doriangray6985

    @doriangray6985

    2 ай бұрын

    How do you know his personal hygiene is poor?

  • @77jez

    @77jez

    2 ай бұрын

    Did you like his one on novated leasing ev’s ?

  • @rrg6625

    @rrg6625

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @rrg6625

    @rrg6625

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @rEdHoUsE_1969
    @rEdHoUsE_19692 ай бұрын

    Finally an adult conversation(s) about the car industry in Australia & the world. I really enjoyed this two part series from the Redriven team and yourself John.

  • @OnlyOneKich

    @OnlyOneKich

    2 ай бұрын

    We don’t have a car industry in Australia 😂 They are just talking about how international car manufactures ripping Aussie’s off, and they can, and they will.

  • @robertmorris6529

    @robertmorris6529

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@OnlyOneKich do you think we are better off without car manufacturing or not?

  • @OnlyOneKich

    @OnlyOneKich

    Ай бұрын

    @@robertmorris6529 don’t know, just pointing out the fact, that’s all.

  • @gardenwaster
    @gardenwaster2 ай бұрын

    We live in an era where lying has become the norm our Politicians set the standard.

  • @andrewkerr5296

    @andrewkerr5296

    Ай бұрын

    Society accepts comfortable lies Politicians are a reflection of the Culture

  • @danieltynan5301

    @danieltynan5301

    26 күн бұрын

    Not necessarily lying when they can just ignore the truth......

  • @darrennorth929
    @darrennorth9292 ай бұрын

    I had the spare part thing years ago. My Ford Laser was a rebranded Mazda. The 12 volt power socket died. Ford wanted $100. Mazda was the exact same item for $20

  • @somat111

    @somat111

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe Ford have had a rethink with some of their parts pricing, I was after a PCV hose for my 2016 Focus and buying new was cheaper than sourcing second hand from a wrecker.

  • @bobmoss2665
    @bobmoss26652 ай бұрын

    I am 77 and have a new Camry Hybrid. I love it; I can go from the Gold Coast to Sydney on less than the 50-litre tank in comfort. I don’t have a clue about horsepower handling etc., I never read a review from anyone, and it fits my requirements perfectly.

  • @Low760

    @Low760

    2 ай бұрын

    And it's aimed at someone like you.

  • @chrisbuxton1958

    @chrisbuxton1958

    2 ай бұрын

    Toyotas in general are superb vehicles. I’m a fan of their petrol-hybrid technology as well.

  • @lukeclifton4392

    @lukeclifton4392

    2 ай бұрын

    I have an Aurion with over 500,000km’s (in impeccable mechanical condition)… I was looking at upgrading to a RAV4 hybrid, but was questioning the power compared to the Aurion’s 200kw V6. Well F-me, this RAV4 hybrid absolutely smoked me on an up ramp to the highway… needless to say, it’s now on order.

  • @mikldude9376

    @mikldude9376

    2 ай бұрын

    Nothing the matter with the Aurion mate , I have one too , and a 30 year old V8 Lexus, good cars , my Aurion has just has general servicing and is 7 years old and runs like a beauty , and I expect it to last 20 years with minimal problems. i sincerely doubt the EVs will see much more than 9 or 10 years before going to the junk yard.​@@lukeclifton4392

  • @shanechaffey9050

    @shanechaffey9050

    2 ай бұрын

    Who else is drooling re the Porsches in the background

  • @user-yb3hq7qt1s
    @user-yb3hq7qt1s2 ай бұрын

    This is the corrupt world we live in, when the power of money can sap the strength of any criticism. I stopped reading/watching commercial journalism years ago because they simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth. All power to you guys and keep up the good work.

  • @rtmpgt

    @rtmpgt

    Ай бұрын

    Every publication, even independent ones have some form of agenda. At least if you go with an indepedent journalist, you hear _their actualised thoughts_ on a topic, even if it's biased. It's why Journos like John and Friendlyjordies are so refreshing.

  • @SirGregoryFamilyYouTube

    @SirGregoryFamilyYouTube

    Ай бұрын

    KZread influencers generate income from channel views, endorsements and sometimes as lackies of groups such as big farma, big oil, gun lobbyists etc. Can they be trusted any more than commercial journalism? How many KZread channels include a Financial Disclosure with their videos?

  • @SirGregoryFamilyYouTube

    @SirGregoryFamilyYouTube

    Ай бұрын

    Ludicrous Feed is one that does. Any others?

  • @davidarter9670
    @davidarter96702 ай бұрын

    With our current economic woes and the huge costs of living, Channels such as ReDriven are becoming more and more relevant for the average Australian. With his extensive knowledge of cars, Jim Hull might well just be one of the most important people in the car industry!

  • @globalroamer1900
    @globalroamer19002 ай бұрын

    Two of my favourite car channels in one video.......NICE !

  • @duanagusmcbain5931

    @duanagusmcbain5931

    2 ай бұрын

    Haha wrote the same thing on redriven

  • @aubreyramokgonami7

    @aubreyramokgonami7

    2 ай бұрын

    Love it❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @steverodwell2952

    @steverodwell2952

    Ай бұрын

    @@aubreyramokgonami7 me too

  • @randallsmith7885
    @randallsmith78852 ай бұрын

    Years ago, I noticed how car magazines would write about all of the wonderful improvements that the updated model made. Including all of the problems they solved from the previous version. But they never reported on those problems when they were reviewing the previous version. You had to look for subtle nuance to find the truth.

  • @SenseiKreese
    @SenseiKreese2 ай бұрын

    I'm still driving a 2004 Magna I've had for a long time. The fucking thing just won't die and everything still works and it still drives well. The poor man's Camry.

  • @lisadunn6027

    @lisadunn6027

    2 ай бұрын

    I loved my 97 magna. Gave it up after repeated cv joint failures. Great family car

  • @allangibson8494

    @allangibson8494

    Ай бұрын

    The Magna was fine until the computer overheated and wouldn’t start the car until it cooled down (which too until after dark in central Australia)…

  • @ahbeng888

    @ahbeng888

    Ай бұрын

    Driving a 2007 Toyota Yaris myself. I call it the "nuclear wasteland cockroach that won't die" of the car world. Mechanically and HVAC wise nothing is wrong, but the interior is starting to date badly. But I couldn't care less. A few years ago I wanted to get rid of it for something "premium", but after COVID, I can't bear to part with this because of how decently it does its fundamental job: "getting me from A to B safely without breaking down and it's cheap to run".

  • @garynew9637

    @garynew9637

    Ай бұрын

    Haha, still got my 97 camry

  • @edwardt1941

    @edwardt1941

    Ай бұрын

    @@ahbeng888 got a 2010. tough car

  • @Stevegetslucky
    @Stevegetslucky2 ай бұрын

    I just want a fucking Car that gets me around the Town. I don`t need all these silly B.S cameras, sensors and other silly bells and whistles. I just need a Radio and maybe an air conditioner. Cause in 10 years' time, all that B.S just fucks up! Been making Cars a hundred years and still can`t get it right.

  • @josepeixoto3384

    @josepeixoto3384

    2 ай бұрын

    A/C and ABS and No...(No!!) sunroof,moonroof,kids roof,bad hair roof,or whatever name and purpose it has (in 40 years as a mech no one was able to explain it...) that is all i want; a factory screen with (voice nav) GPS would be nice, it does not exist on my older 6 cars, i use cell phone, ok too; no new cars for me ever...

  • @rrvancilful

    @rrvancilful

    2 ай бұрын

    @Stevegetslucky. How do you REALLY feel about it? LOL

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 ай бұрын

    YOU DONT. Neither do I. Some are mandated/ other features are just because the other manufacturers offer those features. And you and I get to pay for all this electronic crapola. No way around it/ but always look for the simple fix/ to what they tell you. Simple worked/ simple still works. The least parts the better.

  • @velocity.3bl

    @velocity.3bl

    27 күн бұрын

    You, my friend, want a Mazda like mine, a BL MZ3. The most techy aspect in this thing is DSC - satnav was optional 😅

  • @jamesrebbechi5247
    @jamesrebbechi52472 ай бұрын

    Brilliant. More with these guys please.

  • @AutoExpertJC

    @AutoExpertJC

    2 ай бұрын

    Will do.

  • @rtmpgt

    @rtmpgt

    Ай бұрын

    @@AutoExpertJC Also have you ever thought about a chat with friendlyjordies? There's another hard-hitting journo that'd have a great chat with you about cars. I've seen you in his comments section before. :D

  • @davidarter9670
    @davidarter96702 ай бұрын

    If there ever was a podcast that tells me to keep my LS430 and keep it serviced to the nth degree (which it always has been) this is it. Many thanks gentlemen.

  • @amitmou2009

    @amitmou2009

    Ай бұрын

    I love that lexus...it's a beast..

  • @kallekas8551

    @kallekas8551

    Ай бұрын

    Lexus…best brand!👍

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh55702 ай бұрын

    Parts costs are why our bloody insurance premiums are so expensive 😢😢

  • @aaadamt964

    @aaadamt964

    2 ай бұрын

    Insurance companies are why insurance is so high. They have politicians in their pockets. I'd say they're the most corrupt industry in existence. You're required to pay every month. When you need the service you've paid into for maybe years or decades they decide what they will and will not pay for.

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. These days they hound you at the dealership to dump your new vehicle before the warranty runs out and put you in a brand new piece of S ...! So they can sell your old vehicle for a sweet profit. My lady friend is getting hounded right now on her 2022 HRV which has had NOTHING go wrong with it, & is 73 years old like me. They did that to her in her 2017 Civic too. They almost 'DEMAND'she sell it to them. Such a scam they run on your dime. Next time she goes to the dealership, I will be there too. Hopefully, I have talked her out of doing any trade-up nonsense. Scum dealership in Ontario North of Barrie.

  • @Theweouthereforrealclub-

    @Theweouthereforrealclub-

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aaadamt964not as bad as international banks, they’re running us into the ground on purpose. Pretty bad though

  • @grimreaper6112

    @grimreaper6112

    Ай бұрын

    @@aaadamt964 There scumbags i waited 8 months for a pay out on a stolen car they tried everything to get out of it untill it was found with 200Vb cans in it and trashed and the lazy Police wouldnt even fingerprint anything.

  • @ag-om6nr

    @ag-om6nr

    Ай бұрын

    Insurance costs do have a relationship with the driving habits of a lot Drivers!

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge2062 ай бұрын

    This is amazing - I have followed ReDriven from the word go so to see you ream up with Adam and Jim is just incredible. The parts thing is insane. Don’t know if you watched Mat Armstrong rebuilding his Lambo? The side repeaters were £60ish from Lambo. When he looked closer, they were actually Focus Mk1 items and £16 off Ebay! Same with the throttle bodies of which he needed four- Lamborghini wanted about £1200 each. When he took the Lambo cover off, underneath was a Bosch part number which when he cross referenced it, turned out to be the identical throttle body used on a 2.4 litre petrol 2000-2007 Volvo V70! About £80 instead. And the ashtray was quoted at over £600! The identical part was identified as an Audi A6 rear door part and with the posh Lambo cover removed and glued onto the Audi part, fitted perfectly! Madness

  • @Tom-ce8ib
    @Tom-ce8ib2 ай бұрын

    I think the 2024 car of the year award should be my 2006 Ford Courier 4x4 5 speed manual, 2.5 diesel ute, 320,000 km.👍

  • @Berserkism

    @Berserkism

    2 ай бұрын

    1999 Ford AU Series 1, Tickford XR8 Ute. 400,000km and still going strong. They simply do not make them like they used to.

  • @HomesickforAlaska

    @HomesickforAlaska

    2 ай бұрын

    I didn't know they still made the Courier. In 1976 my first vehicle was a 74 Ford Courier. (Really just a Mazda) Used mostly on the farm as a work truck, In the winter if we got a big snowstorm I would put 200-300 Lbs in the bed and run around pulling people out of ditches. Drove it till about 1985 and gave it back to Dad to keep using as a farm truck.

  • @mattbrill7909

    @mattbrill7909

    Ай бұрын

    And when these new cars have electronic problems, and cheap components worn out, yours will still be going! Simple and reliable

  • @rsyncd

    @rsyncd

    Ай бұрын

    The B-Series Mazda utes of that era are truly reliable (even when rebadged as Ford Courier's)

  • @imwalking1690
    @imwalking16902 ай бұрын

    100% correct. My family I guess you could say is pretty normal. I have a wife that works 3 days a week and three kids in school. A mortgage that is pretty low compared to most people. A pretty reasonable income I guess you could say, 160k combined gross. I just bought a 5 year old Camry $26k for my wife because that’s about all the cost of living allows for. A 130k ev is just absolutely BS and not even on the radar. Even a hybrid Camry would be a stretch because I’m being careful to make sure we can afford to live through a few more interest rate increases.

  • @steelearmstrong9616

    @steelearmstrong9616

    2 ай бұрын

    Times are hard for sure. Next year Australia will go full CBDC and apparently there is going to be a full cyber attack globally on all banks. Savings will be net Zero. We are living in end times

  • @nigelliam153

    @nigelliam153

    Ай бұрын

    26k for a 5 year old Camry? I’m so out of touch with Aussie car prices

  • @imwalking1690

    @imwalking1690

    Ай бұрын

    That was a cheap one. And I wanted under 50k km. I had to give a deposit on the spot as a Uber driver was waiting behind me and was pissed when I took it.

  • @indeepeterhopwood8106

    @indeepeterhopwood8106

    Ай бұрын

    Buying a 5 year old car and keeping it for 5 years is the way to go. The average car age in Australia is 10 years.

  • @kellyeye7224
    @kellyeye72242 ай бұрын

    Confirmation of something most independent thinkers always knew.

  • @MadMax351
    @MadMax3512 ай бұрын

    The taxi driver where i live still uses a Falcon AU, i have asked him why have you not got a new car, his reply was this just keeps going with minimal maintenance and is not worth updating.

  • @steelearmstrong9616

    @steelearmstrong9616

    2 ай бұрын

    Love it. Go the AU

  • @351tgv

    @351tgv

    2 ай бұрын

    @@steelearmstrong9616 - AU Falcon 4 Life.

  • @robertmorris6529

    @robertmorris6529

    2 ай бұрын

    @MadMax351 doesn't your State Dept. Of Tpt. enforce age or km limit ?

  • @louienajdovski1957

    @louienajdovski1957

    2 ай бұрын

    long live the AU

  • @Berserkism

    @Berserkism

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@robertmorris6529 No. As long the car is road worthy. My work ute is from 1999 and has 400,000km on it, still going strong.

  • @OutbackOutlaw
    @OutbackOutlaw2 ай бұрын

    Car awards, actors awards any kind of awards is nothing but a wank fest! All paid and already decided! Money money money. No honesty these days. That’s why I subscribe to you and Redriven!!

  • @Rapscallion2009
    @Rapscallion20092 ай бұрын

    The *entire* car industry is dedicated to getting you to spend as much as possible. The industry has people believing that the sensible thing is to work out the very maximum you can afford, then go and find something that "uses up" all that money. It's insane!

  • @oldbloke204
    @oldbloke2042 ай бұрын

    I had the opposite experience with a local dealer. I was looking for a particular battery. One of the well known cheap mobs had them so I checked the price and rang one of our local car dealers who were also suppliers of them. Got the guy to tell me the price while expecting to have to ask if they price matched and they were about 40 bucks cheaper. Got great service as well. I'm still going to therapy.

  • @user-qo3er2hc5c
    @user-qo3er2hc5c2 ай бұрын

    Gosh John - I love nearly all of your work but this expose par excellence has inspired me to actually “put pen to paper” to compliment you and your cohorts… thank you

  • @ag-om6nr
    @ag-om6nrАй бұрын

    Overtightening a set of wheel is easy to do with an air tool ! A few years back Canadian Tire ( Crappy Tire ) did that for me ! A days labour and $400 later my wheel was fixed by a great mechanic and his apprentice ! An expensive lesson for me to not go near Crappy Tire ever again !

  • @FlyingScot911
    @FlyingScot91124 күн бұрын

    I'll never forget the time I purchased a brand new Ford Explorer in the early 90's. One day, a few years after the purchase and moving to another city, I was back in the town where I had purchased the Explorer for a visit with friends. After that famous lunch I was on my way home. As I was leaving town I had just turned left onto the road where the dealership is located and was passing right in front of it when suddenly my front passenger side wheel just collapsed off of the axle. Literally right in front of the dealership. Well I grabbed my docs and wandered into the service center. I showed my papers and the guy looks at me and says...wow, you are lucky. Your warranty expires in less than two weeks. Where is your Explorer? I pointed out the window to where you could see it sitting there on the side of the road with a collapsed wheel. As they say, timing is everything.

  • @davidhayter8516
    @davidhayter85162 ай бұрын

    I drive a 1994 GS Nova (Corolla) 5SP. Cost $500…six years ago. Service every six months. Changed timing belt at 200k…oh, and replaced the wiper blades. That’s it…unlike the Fords I suffered with for far too long.

  • @Berserkism

    @Berserkism

    2 ай бұрын

    I have to say I have had the opposite experience with Ford, except the EF, just crush that pile of shit into a cube....anyway, the AU XR8 Ute is 400,000km and going strong. Love it.

  • @rickkinsman7400
    @rickkinsman7400Ай бұрын

    The real take out of this piece is the acknowledgement that not caring what others think of you is the greatest experience of liberation available. Running a close second is the realisation that, when the flak is thickest, you know you're over the target. Bravo, guys! A great segment.

  • @tim8deb
    @tim8deb2 ай бұрын

    Great to see these 2 channels working together.I watch them both and look forward to all that they do together or independently.

  • @MattBlack6
    @MattBlack62 ай бұрын

    Thanks for introducing me to ReDriven. Seem like ethical and knowledgeable gents.

  • @jono.pom-downunder
    @jono.pom-downunder2 ай бұрын

    Reliability and integrity, is that too much to ask from the motor industry, manufacturers to journalists.

  • @gregbailey45

    @gregbailey45

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, clearly.

  • @aimandjulian3195
    @aimandjulian31952 ай бұрын

    toyota corollas and camerys give a great ride and just keep on working for years .

  • @robertceroli3512

    @robertceroli3512

    2 ай бұрын

    In Sydney they are known as the Toongabbie Wentworthville chariot

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 ай бұрын

    Ya. Well, they break just like the rest. Those are tales from the early days. They have made their share of crap trannys and engines too. You and your wallet will find out I guess. I bought a 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross. And if it starts failing me, out she goes. Toyota quality or not. Too old to get swindled now. Good luck to you.

  • @kiwiryker
    @kiwiryker2 ай бұрын

    I’m in NZ , But the only Car journalist I Trust is John , Raw , Straight to point , no Bulls** Simple easy and perfect ✊👍

  • @bkvdpw
    @bkvdpwАй бұрын

    I absolutely loved the format of this video . . . straightforward and no BS!!

  • @andyh5666
    @andyh56662 ай бұрын

    I know Subaru was mentioned here, but have to say I love my 23 BRZ in part because of it's lack of crap. In the 6 speed - no eyesite, no stop/start, no AEB, no bloody nagging. Just a glorious analogue experience. Naturally they've now gone and fitted those things to the updated model due to legislation.

  • @philstabile173
    @philstabile1732 ай бұрын

    Car makers have truly lost the plot.people just want affordable, reliable, reparable car that last end of story.

  • @jasonfrazer741
    @jasonfrazer741Ай бұрын

    John, I'm glad you have joined up with these blokes. Love the content from both channels and have been a fan since you covered a certain car had its sunroof explode. (worked on the car in question)

  • @TheAndrei0425
    @TheAndrei04252 ай бұрын

    Great show as always, love both channels, keep it up.

  • @mik99D
    @mik99D2 ай бұрын

    I had an old Mercedes C class. Failed MOT on brake pipes. Mercedes wanted £400 for the parts. Got identical ones made up at Partco for £11.

  • @josepeixoto3384

    @josepeixoto3384

    2 ай бұрын

    see, merc. benz no like that; next time buy from them, be truthful to the brand i do not

  • @marcmorris-kb9ry

    @marcmorris-kb9ry

    2 ай бұрын

    Partco went skint in UK before I left there even....but yes in UK brake pipe cheap as shit....

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 ай бұрын

    There you go. They put doubt and fear into you so you just say 'YES'. So many parts today on Toyotas are the same as on a Lexus yet they charge you way more. And if you're in the know I bet Mazda & Subaru have duplicate parts with Toyota. In fact I 'KNOW'that is so. All car manufacturers are gouging crooks at heart. And they consider all of us a bunch of Schmucks.

  • @Leonardo555ZZZ

    @Leonardo555ZZZ

    Ай бұрын

    How long will 11 pound pipes last ?

  • @timcollins380
    @timcollins3802 ай бұрын

    I agree with you 100% regarding the i30N (6 speed manual) vs the (F80) M3 as I own both. The i30N is more fun and actually quicker point to point in an urban / suburban environment.

  • @justinfargas2367
    @justinfargas23672 ай бұрын

    Great collab guys. Clicking part 2 right now.

  • @peterbernier6348
    @peterbernier63482 ай бұрын

    I am so glad I found your channel, keep up the great work.

  • @Leosarebetter
    @Leosarebetter2 ай бұрын

    Chrysler Centura - Wheels Australia - "Its not just a pretty face like the Europeans try to sell us" - I have that magazine in my collection...

  • @bbatfink5114
    @bbatfink51142 ай бұрын

    Loved it ,good chat between guys that know there stuff👍

  • @JimboJones-qn4wd
    @JimboJones-qn4wd2 ай бұрын

    The other scam is the lifetime service plans where dealers claim that you will know exactly how much each service will cost for the life of the car. I had a situation recently, where a well-known and popular car brand (a brand that John often mentions in his top brands) wanted to charge me a lot more than the fixed-price service for items that the car marker recommends be replaced. Mine was for the 20,000km / 2-year service where the fixed price for the service is about $320 (to basically change the oil and oil filter). The service desk told me that the car maker recommends that the cabin filter and brake fluid be replaced every 2 years. They told me that the cabin filter will cost $130 and the brake fluid would cost $95. But they claim that the 2-year service cost under their lifetime service plans is $320. Instead of costing me $320, they quoted me $545. Surely this is anti-consumer behaviour and in breach of Australian consumer law. If the car maker is advising their dealers to replace cabin filters and brake fluid every 2 years, then why isn't that cost built into the lifetime service plans? It's not included, because cars sell better if they publish lifetime service plans with every other service costing of $300 to $400 instead of $500 to $600. I told them to go ahead with the brake fluid, but not the cabin filter. The service desk told me that it won't be a problem not replacing the cabin filter and we can look at it again next service. They also advised that the service technicians will just clean out the cabin filter and put it back in. When I got home, I removed the cabin filter to check it. It was a little bit dirty, but I could clearly tell that the service technician did not remove and clean it because it had a couple of leaves or other loose debris laying on top of the filter. I seriously doubt that the service technician even looked at the filter. If I had given them the go-ahead to replace it, they would have removed and replaced it and charged me $130. Out of interest, I contacted the car dealer's spare parts department and asked how much a new cabin filter would cost, they said $116. I then checked online and found a supplier interstate and the cost delivered for the cabin filter was $25.

  • @peterbuckley3877

    @peterbuckley3877

    2 ай бұрын

    Put that down to the individual dealer, I’d take my business elsewhere. Every time I’ve paid for service it’s been charged according to the stated cost and all of these services are included as per the stated warranty.

  • @Theweouthereforrealclub-

    @Theweouthereforrealclub-

    2 ай бұрын

    I saw a video of a dealer service tech talking about how shops use the flat rate system and the effects of that. One of which was the new cabin filters would be thrown away instead of installed to save time but they would still bill the work. It was a common thing to do

  • @shanerobertson6267

    @shanerobertson6267

    2 ай бұрын

    Cabin filter for my Ducati cost me $30. Harbour bridge dealer charged me $125. Last time. When I got in my van there was sawdust everywhere inside (builder) the unsupervised apprentice just stuck a compressed air gun under glove compartment and blew it out without removing it. They were then too dumb to blow it out of the van. They said they were down on staff- so that converts into charges for parts not replaced- when I bought one 75% cheaper; thieves.Dont get me started on workshop supplies on every invoice.

  • @peterbuckley3877

    @peterbuckley3877

    Ай бұрын

    @@Theweouthereforrealclub- that would be a dealer you avoid like the plague

  • @peterbuckley3877

    @peterbuckley3877

    Ай бұрын

    @@shanerobertson6267 I’ve just had my car serviced and usually the big rip off is what they charge you for the oil and injector cleaner, the prices they’ve charged are actually cheaper than you’d pay aftermarket. Fortunately we have a reliable local dealer who does the work listed, I was surprised that they even washed my car as well. I’d just got back from a country trip and the front looked like I’d hit some rather big bugs or a small animal had exploded, the wheels and door jambs had that much fine dust in them you could have top dressed the lawn with it.

  • @SONNTAG10001
    @SONNTAG100012 ай бұрын

    Great to hear the industry truths on a forum that reaches out to so many people, Having been in the industry myself for 50 odd year's the thing that concerns me most is the cost of servicing a new vehicle and the components and materials replaced and not distinguishing between the time or milage, an example being a 2nd or 2 year service on a nissan navara that had only traveled 15,000 km costing $800.00. When questions where asked the owner was told if all materials and parts listed hadn't been replaced, the vehicle warranty would have been forfeited.The item questioned was the wiper blades.

  • @andrewthiesz9079
    @andrewthiesz90792 ай бұрын

    What a brilliant Chat/Conversation, well done.

  • @ianmacpherson8385
    @ianmacpherson83852 ай бұрын

    Brilliant stuff. Thoroughly enlightening and entertaining.

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w2 ай бұрын

    Tremendous! More, please! (watched both)

  • @TheKnobCalledTone.
    @TheKnobCalledTone.2 ай бұрын

    The Three Wise Men of Australian automotive KZread, together at last #respect

  • @lbproductions3613

    @lbproductions3613

    Ай бұрын

    what's the name of their channel?

  • @Seiskid
    @Seiskid2 ай бұрын

    Super informative. Great content.

  • @misterg2269
    @misterg22692 ай бұрын

    Being an average motorist, I have followed John on his journalistic motoring adventures because has something that is lacking in most mainstream media journalists, integrity. As far as the cars I purchase, their reliability and value for money is very important, and I tend to look at what taxi companies and hire car operators use, so at the moment I own a Camry and a Kia Carnival, they haven't let me down yet.

  • @Berserkism

    @Berserkism

    2 ай бұрын

    It's too much to ask from any journalist in any industry. That is why old media is basically dead, and a KZread channel with 2 guys, etc, is the go-to for proper information.

  • @kevinsweeney6709
    @kevinsweeney6709Ай бұрын

    Great work again guys very informative.

  • @peregrinemccauley5010
    @peregrinemccauley50102 ай бұрын

    My Fiat 850 Sports Coupes had only fifty odd 🐎, but through the Canberra roundabouts, on the smooth bitumen, it was bye byes. 108 mph @ redline.

  • @punchbuggyyellow7097
    @punchbuggyyellow70972 ай бұрын

    Loved the colab - more please.

  • @mikeboone4425
    @mikeboone4425Ай бұрын

    Fantastic program John and thanks to all for great show..

  • @windyhill10
    @windyhill102 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. The lads from ReDriven are great value. I love there reviews.

  • @RetroGamerVX
    @RetroGamerVXАй бұрын

    That's why I love Re-driven and John's channels, you know that with most of the channels reviewing new cars, they have to restrain themselves due to their need to retain their relationships with the channels, but you don't need those relationships so we can trust what you say. I remember one particular channel being sponsored by VW, and people noticed that their reviews of VW products had very little criticism suddenly. Ended up with their viewership plummeting and the presenter leaving for another channel.

  • @daveholbert7244
    @daveholbert72442 ай бұрын

    Great report, spot on

  • @TheSpoovy
    @TheSpoovy2 ай бұрын

    One thing I regard as a scam is failing the MOT (here in UK) because of failures of non-critical systems that could otherwise just be turned off. Tyre Pressure Monitoring for example -- a fragile system that I'd happily do without, but when it failed I was not allowed back on the road until it was fixed, at significant expense of course.

  • @Noah_E

    @Noah_E

    2 ай бұрын

    What was wrong with your TPMS? New sensors for my Forester are only $60 USD installed and programmed per wheel. The most expensive one I've had was a Grand Cherokee at $95 each.

  • @TheSpoovy

    @TheSpoovy

    Ай бұрын

    @@Noah_E Short version I was third party in a collision. The other guy's insurer (and therefore garage) had to replace one of my wheels but all four tyres (because AWD, another story there), but they were completely incompetent. TPMS didn't work when they gave it back to me. They had multiple cracks at "fixing" it, with my MOT due in the middle (which failed of course) before I lost patience and decided to take it to my local Subaru dealer. They found out two of the sensors were gone. And they had a job to sort it out even after replacing them, they said it was a 20-minute job but ended up with my car for about 6 hours, who knows why. All round massive pain in the arse basically for a system I don't even want.

  • @matthewgruba8040
    @matthewgruba80402 ай бұрын

    John, you are the KZread equivalent of The Dog and Lemon Guide, which had three Review summaries, the most common of which was "Avoid Like the Plague."

  • @dinger40
    @dinger402 ай бұрын

    Back in the mid 80's Porsche 924 exhaust valves were the same as used the VW 2 ltr LT Van, both using the VW EA831 Audi 2 ltr engine. Needless to say the price difference was huge, nothing changes.

  • @chrissmith2114
    @chrissmith21142 ай бұрын

    Some companies like BMW ( motorbikes and cars ), Mercedes etc and also Harley Davidson sell a lifestyle, not a vehicle, because their stuff is often worse less reliable and badly put together than 'less premium' stuff like Honda and Toyota.

  • @peterbartels1874
    @peterbartels18742 ай бұрын

    Speaking of parts, I had the actuator on the transfer case of my E53 X5 fail and was quoted $3,500 by BMW (looked like a wiper motor to me 😱) and I bought an OEM replacement out of the Us for $700 delivered. All for the sake of a nylon gear that stripped on the actuator. (I understand you can now buy the gear for a couple of dollars 😡). They also quoted me $550 for a genuine Xenon globe and I could buy one buy it out the US but could only buy them in a two pack…they cost me… wait for it…$26 delivered in 3 days from Florida !!!.. now I also have a spare globe 😂

  • @rayjarius387
    @rayjarius38726 күн бұрын

    This is VERY INTERESTING John PLEASE can we have more of this. I am a 70 year old that has lived through some of these problems. very interesting

  • @dougstubbs9637
    @dougstubbs96372 ай бұрын

    Hello AEJC. Great stuff. Thanks. Cheers.

  • @Forever-Humble
    @Forever-Humble2 ай бұрын

    Good work John! This will be a great video 👏🏼

  • @guser7137

    @guser7137

    2 ай бұрын

    hello brother

  • @steelearmstrong9616

    @steelearmstrong9616

    2 ай бұрын

    @@guser7137 Lol

  • @matwalters3889
    @matwalters3889Ай бұрын

    When it comes to parts mark ups its across industries. I work for a construction machinery OEM and when working on a mini excavator had a cracked TX valve on the AC unit, a new one costs $1200 from our parts department and there were none in the country. To try and get the customer going looked up other brands that use the same TX valve, Isuzu had the same valve for $660, and it also matched a mx5 ($120 from Mazda). Aftermarket from Repco the part cost $65, genuine is just a rip off.

  • @nerdy_dav
    @nerdy_dav2 ай бұрын

    Fantastic collab. Still miffed you didn't send Cletus.

  • @gwcrispi
    @gwcrispi2 ай бұрын

    Sorry dude, I realized this back in 1983 when Motor Trend proclaimed that the Renault Alliance was Car of the Year. 41 years later and you guys are finally catching up.

  • @1969cmp

    @1969cmp

    Ай бұрын

    John has been calling BS on COTY titles for years.....and years....

  • @maxwood192
    @maxwood192Ай бұрын

    Another great video, love the content.

  • @hestikakala3027
    @hestikakala30272 ай бұрын

    Premium cars attract thieves, not worth the cost and stress.

  • @chrissmith2114

    @chrissmith2114

    2 ай бұрын

    Also premium cars are inexplicably easier to steal than cheaper ones..

  • @cthorno2991

    @cthorno2991

    2 ай бұрын

    Just buy anything manual, if it doesn't involve a screen it seems like these little turds have no clue.

  • @ArjayMartin
    @ArjayMartinАй бұрын

    great idea for the follow up

  • @rc70ys
    @rc70ys2 ай бұрын

    Great Podcast. Awesome Content.

  • @garageblitztv3215
    @garageblitztv32152 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this … cheers.

  • @philip4193
    @philip4193Ай бұрын

    The OEM spare parts racket is where vehicle manufacturers actually make their real profits, not selling new cars from the factory. I remember back in the 80's where a particular car magazine (Wheels maybe?) undertook an experiment whereby they priced every single OEM part from a dealership service department that was required to build a particular car from scratch (and it wasn't anything fancy but just some regular 1980's Japanese sedan from memory like a Camry or Bluebird or something similar). We're talking the body shell, all doors & panels, engine, drivetrain & suspension components, wheels & tyres, dash & complete interior, and also all the nuts/bolts/fasteners/fixtures/wiring harnesses etc required to complete the job. The cost of all these parts together came to something like almost three times the actual RRP of the brand new vehicle purchased off the dealer showroom floor, and this figure didn't even take into account the additional labour costs of paying a mechanic to fit all these parts together (and also professionally paint the body & panels) in order to build the finished car. And this was 40 years or so ago, when cars were relatively simple & rudimentary, and devoid of most electronics & gadgets when compared to today's vehicles.

  • @guffmam6995
    @guffmam6995Ай бұрын

    In regard to car journalism the question is whether the customer is the reader or the advertiser and in with declining magazine sales it is likely the latter. I'm guilty of helping this situation as 20 years ago I used to buy Wheels, Motor, Two Wheels and Australian Roadrider every month but now I'm just happy with KZread.

  • @debbiegodfrey4843
    @debbiegodfrey484313 күн бұрын

    Fantastic video guys! 👏

  • @Donster888
    @Donster888Ай бұрын

    Extremely relevant topic indeed guys.... Kudos to you all!

  • @FreakinPeanut
    @FreakinPeanutАй бұрын

    Thanks for this, was a beautiful production 😁

  • @craigcottingham35
    @craigcottingham35Ай бұрын

    Thank you John. I've been raving on about this for 30 years.

  • @user-zz1xc3ye9y
    @user-zz1xc3ye9yАй бұрын

    brutally honest review of cars - these are the only guys worth watching

  • @bramscheDave
    @bramscheDaveАй бұрын

    Great video, as usual. Whilst listening to part 1 on Redriven, you were talking about the dealers changing out brake pads early. I actually have the problem the other way round. I used to get the brake pads changed every 18 months to 2 years (140-160,000KM), but my driving has changed drastically and I am now driving less than 1K a month. On my current car, the brake pads are about 60% down after 120,000KM, but the car is now 10 years old. My mechanic looked at the brakes, when he swapped the winter wheels for the summer wheels a couple of weeks back and said that there is still a lot of wear left in them. I've heard of brake pads disintegrating, but never had a mechanic tell me, I need to change the pads due to age and I've never had a set of pads disintegrate. Are pads like tyres and should be replaced anyway after a certain amount of time or can you keep using them until they are worn down? I did have a set, back in the mid-90s that got glazed after an emergency stop at motorway speeds and I could feel the braking performance had suffered, so I changed them out, but other than that, I've always worn them down to

  • @SunRise-ul7ko
    @SunRise-ul7ko2 ай бұрын

    Owned my 2016 VF Commodore for 8 years now. Can't think of a new car I'd prefer to buy.

  • @sodoffbaldrick2994
    @sodoffbaldrick29942 ай бұрын

    Real, honest, data and experience based opinion?!?! I’m lost for words. I didn’t think this existed in car land anymore. I paused to make my first comment. The rest of this post is so encouraging to hear. I’m now going to watch the other half. Very well done gents, bravo.

  • @Luceq
    @Luceq2 ай бұрын

    Great work John!

  • @craigmcpherson6972
    @craigmcpherson6972Ай бұрын

    Brilliant episode!

  • @markw68
    @markw68Ай бұрын

    Mitsubishi L300 Van with 170000 used. Replaced the Conrod Bearings when bought, now have 335000 on clock, never missed a beat.

  • @dieterkoch8414
    @dieterkoch8414Ай бұрын

    Whose garage!! Awesome.... Great chat fellars really enjoyed this format.

  • @CharlesLeyton-eh5ex
    @CharlesLeyton-eh5exАй бұрын

    John/Adam/Jim, that was great. Can you please do more of these discussions.

  • @metalmoto4803
    @metalmoto48032 ай бұрын

    My god the spare parts fiasco! Are car makers really that naive that we wont look online and research the part ourselves? I had that happen about a month ago, $400 part from a dealer compared with $30 aftermarket that does the same thing!!

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 ай бұрын

    Just be careful of the really crappy Chinese electronic substitute parts. I don't use them for ignition not pumps etc. Stick with North American replacement parts. Rock Auto in the USA has lots of substitute parts that are just as good or better. For 30 years now they have saved my bacon dozens of times. And no I have no financial dealings with them at all. Just good parts at a reasonable price. And available for the most part, and has QUICK delivery. I live in Canada and often they are on my front door stem by noon the next day! Always shop around and ask around.

  • @MrDaymien1
    @MrDaymien12 ай бұрын

    Thanks John, really enjoyable.

  • @davidlindburg1921
    @davidlindburg19212 ай бұрын

    Geez, a really candid show this one.

  • @graysono
    @graysono2 ай бұрын

    Good heavens, younger versions of JC! I've subscribed to them. Think you've properly brought them to the Dark Side Lord Palpatine!

  • @RedDog265
    @RedDog2652 ай бұрын

    Thanks John & guests. More of the same please, we all need to know this kind of "insider" information. Excellent.

  • @TheStigHCE09
    @TheStigHCE092 ай бұрын

    Yeah on that whole headlight thing: DRL or indicator module fails on your Range Rover Velar? That'll be $10k thanks. My best quote since being in the parts business was a headlight assembly that retailed for $44,000. Mind you it was for a Porsche 918 Spyder.

  • @flowerguides
    @flowerguidesАй бұрын

    This is the most honest discussion about the car industry i have ever encountered online

  • @uonmedrevue1441
    @uonmedrevue14412 ай бұрын

    This is brilliant! Can we have more?

  • @bellem5
    @bellem5Ай бұрын

    Great interview. Convinced me to keep my 10 year old Mazda 3 until it goes belly up. It’s never needed anything major, regularly serviced. Will always refer to opinions of these 3 when it’s (eventually) time to update.

  • @jackabubba
    @jackabubba2 ай бұрын

    Id like to see the face of a car salesman if you ever walked into a car yard!!!

  • @theairstig9164

    @theairstig9164

    2 ай бұрын

    Dealers loan redriven review items all the time. Go and have a look

  • @drcovell
    @drcovell16 күн бұрын

    My best story about dealership markup is a British friend in Hi needed new brake shoes for his Rolls. The dealer quote was $525 per pair. He called a mate at Rolls in the UK and discovered that the Rolls used the same brake shoes as a 1969 Ford F-150 pickup truck. Cost at Napa in HI for the same brake shoes for that pickup was $25! 😂 😂 😂😂😂

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