Hi all, I hope you are well. If you want me to look at other conflicts in History let me know, rather than WW2 most of the time.

@marciestock7192

9 ай бұрын

My great grandfather, John Vincent, was shot, but survived, during the Battle of Lookout Mountain 1863, November. He was a Union soldier from Illinois. I’d like to know more about that battle. Thank you.

@Boo-dawg.

9 ай бұрын

I've watched everything I have been able to find on this prison. I'm glad he got what was very much due. This was close to the holocaust as far as the treatment.

@johndickle4694

9 ай бұрын

WW1 anything.

@sherirobinson6867

9 ай бұрын

This was a good one for us in the US How about some SMERSH and KGB, or spies from the Cold War?

I have been to Andersonville. You cannot imagine the deplorable conditions and just how small the area was. Easily half of the enclosure was unusable due to the swampy area and the area inside the Deadline. You can still feel the energy and it is horrible.

The American Civil War is an excellent subject to cover.

@Boo-dawg.

9 ай бұрын

​@ib12541 You obviously don't know anything about it or you wouldn't have to ask.

@ShadesofShannon

9 ай бұрын

@@ib12541, I’m so glad you asked this question. I am from the American south. The Civil War is not covered in any real depth here. Additionally, there are initiatives going on in several states to not teach the Civil War the way it needs to be taught. Now, if you’d like to know more on this topic, consider googling. Thank you

In his defense he wrote his commanders he told them he had no more room, storage of food and supplies. He was a scapegoat

@bennyandersen742

9 ай бұрын

Yes, it seems so, he didn't seem like an evil man, but more like he ended up with a hopelessly difficult job. This is the typical dynamics of war. People just want revenge, and some must be "sacrificed ".

Man runs a death camp and you call his mild death brutal

@jamiehudson2519

9 ай бұрын

Union prisoner war camps were just as bad if not worse

@mitchellterry1050

9 ай бұрын

that has nothing to do with what wirtz did@@jamiehudson2519

@modenasolone

9 ай бұрын

@@jamiehudson2519 Yeah, but there is no proof of that besides some randos on the internet said so 158 years later.

@ccrider3435

8 ай бұрын

@@modenasolone "Don't believe everything you read on the internets." - Abraham Lincoln

@modenasolone

8 ай бұрын

@@ccrider3435 cute.

What most people don't realize is that Northern POW camps were just as horrific as Andersonville. Camp Douglas, near Chicago, Point Lookout in Maryland, and the Elmira POW Camp in Elmira, NY, were just as overcrowded and devoid of humanity as the worst of the Southern camps. What makes it so repulsive is that the North had the means to provide adequate care for its Southern prisoners whereas the South didn't. The South had barely enough food to sustain its own people. Wirtz was the convenient fall guy for the Union Army and his rush to judgement was senseless and criminal.

The South couldn't supply their own troops in the field; how were they going to provide for 50,000 prisoners? I'm not excusing the conditions but its fair to ask, "what should he have done?" Prisoner exchanges could have alleviated the suffering.

@DemocracyManifest-vc5jn

9 ай бұрын

There were prisoner exchanges for the first years of war which kept things more sustainable. At some point the union made unsavory demands and took a stance which soured the prisoner exchange with south.

@markmullin4246

9 ай бұрын

Some of the yankee prisoner war camps weren't any better,yet they could afford to feed its army.therefor they should have been able to feed / supply these pow camps! Why weren't any northern pow camps commandments prosecuted??!

@timducote5713

9 ай бұрын

@@markmullin4246 Because it was a victor's justice.

@chriss780

9 ай бұрын

They should have never started the war in the first place. The fact that the war was never winnable and that the southern slaver elites started a war, throwing a tantrum, when there was never a chance of them winning, makes them worse not better. The dumb motherfuckers couldn't even properly feed their own army. Hell the southern plantation owners who owned all the good land were so greedy they were still growing cotton for export for profit instead of using their land to grow food when the south was undergoing a famine, while there people were starving and still they wanted money. they wasted all those lives for nothing.

@chriss780

9 ай бұрын

@@timducote5713 Your slaver grandpappy lost, maybe cry more about it?

The commandant of camp… the phrase that echos in the next 100 years after Andersonville

There were many atrocities committed by both sides during the Civil War. General Sherman's "March to the sea" was the introduction to modern "Scorched Earth" tactics. Also, black union soldiers who were captured were immediately executed as this was the standing order of the Confederate Army.

@chriss780

9 ай бұрын

@@ib12541 Because "black confederates" were like twelve dudes in the last year of the war. Irrelevant. and usually you're referring to personal slaves confederate officers brought with them to the front. And they were only ever fighting for a promise of personal freedom, not for the abolition of slavery as a whole and freedom for their families. the union army on the other hand had 10% of its manpower made up of freedman by freedmen and other black americans, not even remotely the same. its one of the most common and easily disprovable lost cause lies and insane how confidently you people still regurgitate it. And Sherman's destruction of southern military production, fields, and railroads were absolutely justified military targets that directly supported the war effort. The treasonous slavers grandkids still whining about it a hundred years later, because they lost a war they started and faced the consequences just shows how pathetic they are. Your grandpappy lost, get over it. they got off far, far to lightly and still complain. If the entire confederate officer corp and high ranking government officials had been executed, as they should have been as traitors and war criminals we could have avoided 100 years of jim crow and lynching and terrorism. (Aside from Wirz essentially none of the southern officers who had carried out massacres of surrendering black soldiers were held accountable - like Nathan Forrest and Wade Hampton both would have gone on to form terrorist organizations like the kkk and red-shirts.)

@StalinTheMan0fSteel

9 ай бұрын

@@ib12541 There were very few blacks fighting in the Confederate army, however there many Native American tribes fighting with the Confederacy, not because of any love for latter, but because of their hatred of Washington for betraying them so many times.

@danwallach8826

9 ай бұрын

Sherman's March to the Sea was not an atrocity. It was intended to deprive the Confederate armies of supply. It was a rip-roaring success that aided immeasurably in the war's conclusion. Sherman intently studied census data to plan his route -- to sustain his army and to cause as much economic damage as possible. Sherman was a great Army commander and understood modern war as much as Grant and executed the overall war plan exceedingly well.

@StalinTheMan0fSteel

9 ай бұрын

@@danwallach8826 Burning Atlanta to the ground and stealing all the food supplies and livestock of thousands non combatants was necessary? You're repeating the official report, now go study the actual conduct of Sherman's army operations in Georgia. By the way, "Scorched Earth" tactics are now classified as a war crime by the Hague International Criminal Court.

@leeetchells609

8 ай бұрын

​@@danwallach8826it may well have worked but today it would be considered a war crime .

War ‘criminals’ are always on the losing side…

1:18, check the pronunciation of Zurich! the final letters should be more of a K sound!

The Union had POW Camp Douglas it was the Union's Andersonville. Located near Chicago. No one was hung for its high fatality rate.

As a Christian, conservative, Southern man (decidedly in that order), the Civil War is a complex lesson to learn and to pass on to others. As a Christian, I find my soul stirred by the sermons and the writings of the Christian abolitionists of both the North and the South. This must be first. Slavery, especially the race-based, chattel-slavery, executed upon African slaves is one of the greatest sins in our nation's young history. The South was, in a broad paint of the brush, morally wrong. As a conservative, who views Federal power grabs as both constitutionally wrong and politically stupid, I find the Union's legal position as consitutionally wrong. (Constitutional wrongs are without doubt lesser wrongs than moral wrongs.) But I find the argument that secession was consitutional as a convincing argument. It does not lessen the moral evil of slavery, but it muddies the water of what the hypothetical "I" would argue for in such a context. So the North, painted in a broad brush, was constitutionally wrong because there is nothing that locks a state that freely joined the Union from freely leaving that same Union. Nonetheless, the Supreme Court has stated clearly that the proof that secession is illegal is the outcome of the Civil War. In that case, at least, might makes right. (I have always taught my own children that the South was morally wrong and constitutionally right, and the North was morally right and constitutionally wrong. And I have taught them that no matter what a human Constitution states, it matters most what one does morally before the Lord.) And as a Southerner, it gets even muddier. I find the period shameful, the war unnecessary, the secessions legal, the Confederate Constitution racist, Lincoln righteous yet wrong legally, the slaves victims of both their home continent and their new one, the average Confederate soldier patriotic, the slavers sinful, the abolitionist preachers righteous, John Brown a terrorist, Sherman a war criminal, General Lee an enigma, and the Lost Cause a myth. I find myself pridefully chuckling at a bumper sticker that says "North 1 - South 0, Halftime." I find myself ashamed when I see Confederate Flags on the backs of trucks, but angry when politicians want to tear down Confederate statues. When reading history of the Civil War, I find myself mentally substituting "we" for the Confederacy, yet being repulsed by many of the racist quotes that are foriegn to my upbringing and my home today. I, having lived in sub-Saharan Africa and living in the South for the rest of my years, am at home around Black people, yet am opposed to most of my Black friends' politics, yet again wonder on whose side the hypothetical "I" would have fought. Would I have stood with my Black friends, my White state leaders, or would I have fled to the West? I'd like to think I would have would have stood against slavery, but knowing how easily we are blinded, I honestly have no clue what this other version of me would have done. I don't know how other people in similar shoes feel when they read about the Civil War or watch a documentary, but I find myself a confusing mystery as I look into this all too confusing chapter in US history.

@John-kl8mz

9 ай бұрын

the south should have been returned to the stone age

@nosmoking5366

9 ай бұрын

I am an atheist, liberal southerner who agrees with most of your comments. I proudly served in a military unit whose history includes confederate service. This is now problematic for some. But the unit I served in had black men in all ranks from Private up to Lt. Colonel. "I" couldn't even live with the racism of the Vietnam Era, much less that of WWII or the Civil War. Thanks for your comments!

@stuckerfam

9 ай бұрын

@@nosmoking5366 Thank you for sharing your perspective. And for your service to our country.

@stuckerfam

9 ай бұрын

@John-kl8mz I am guessing you are fun at parties.

@BamBamBigelow.

9 ай бұрын

Damn, as a Northern, I understand all to well 😳

Andersonville, the shame of the south!

GOOD ONE

I've read many accounts of Andersonville, and sometimes I wonder if the Nazis weren't inspired by the brutal conditions when making their own concentration camps.

@lisamariepocza4377

9 ай бұрын

I have visited there. IMO Andersonville was worse in some ways. No shelter. SW Georgia is steamy hot with no shade or fresh water. Humans suck.

Victor's Justice, many confererates died in northern POW camps

You say they had no cover but then meeting tents at 5:24 You say they had on food but then mention they did and just robbed each other. You mention he attempted to quell the Irish gangs from their robbery racket by hanging the perpetrators but then mention if was later charged with their 'murders' You mention there were on supplies due to supply lines being but by the union and even the confederate soldiers were starving but blame him for not giving enough done. You call then American soldiers but fail to mention almost all of then were Irish with just a few months in the country illegally. So much disinformation and even contradiction in your own statements, but for what? to justify Washington war crimes as seems to be the only common theme of your "history" channel

@markjulianoriginalhooli2217

9 ай бұрын

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Interesting

At least, the botched hanging made for some suffering in the end......just saying

@stuckerfam

9 ай бұрын

My guess, coming from my own Christian perspective, is that much suffering also followed the hanging.

He was the scape goat. His senior officers who ignored his reqyests for assistance should have been tried.

he had it coming

I think the main reason he was executed was that he was a foreigner who was not born in the US. There were many Confederate commanders who commited worse crimes and were never punished.

@guerrillaradio1

9 ай бұрын

Great point

@Kynos1

9 ай бұрын

@@ib12541 Nathan Bedford Forrest.

@Kynos1

9 ай бұрын

@@ib12541 Fort Pillow Massacre

This really does bring up the same question that I had about Nuremberg. At what point is one allowed to commit war crimes to save their own life? Did they really make a decision based on what they wanted to do or was the decision based on self preservation? I think some cases are clear but others are less so. Some took delight in cruelty while some seemed to just go along with what was needed to survive.

Some of the Union camps weren’t much better. I doubt their commandants were hanged

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@alancrisp1582

9 ай бұрын

🥱🤫 Newsflash - No one cares, you have nothing intelligent to say !...

"General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history." -Dwight D. Eisenhower 1960

We were way too easy on the Rebels. They are back again as MAGA. Same grievances -- new leader -- this time a Yankee grifter with a Gold Toilet..

@briandunne2153

9 ай бұрын

Your economical with the facts. It was Lincoln and Grant that were responsible for all the Union prisoners there they stopped prisoner exchange as a means of winning the war. As for being rebels 1848 Lincoln was all in favour of secession in a speech against Pres Polk. Guarded by old men and kids on the same rations many of them didn't survive Andersonville either. The deaths there were not deliberate as was done in some Union P.o.w camps .

Admit it..When the narrator said "...in France" you thought of saying " I can see your underpants!"