I just hate the frenchie side story, like his 3rd love interest

@kameronwright9925

4 күн бұрын

I can agree.im tired of seeing Frenchie hate himself and making dumb decisions. You did the worst thing imaginable to this dude then you fuck him and start dating him... Why??

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

thats literally my only issue with the season no cap😂

@nebulous8389

3 күн бұрын

Yeah I'm fine with frenchie being bi he always was but he as so good with Kimiko. Other than that the show is just fine to me. I felt the first 3 episodes were kind of clunky but the 4th episode was like ok we back!!

@KelaneRaja

3 күн бұрын

​@@antoineLebrane I don't know why the audience score is so low.. there are some parts that are a bit needless like frenchie being gay and the naked multiplying guy ...but overall its really good

@dariusthegr8one81

2 күн бұрын

Frenchie and kimiko side stories have always been the weak point but they were cute together. Now u splitting them up and it just seems random af

So, they didn't realize that Homelander was the villain in S1 when he let an entire plane full of people die because he wanted to gain political points?

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

right😂😂😂

@poposterous236

3 сағат бұрын

Lots of conservatives believe in 'ends justify the means' type stuff and don't value human life

The Boys has always been an obvious satire.😂😂😂

@poposterous236

3 сағат бұрын

Satire doesn't work when you have an entire generation of mouth-breathers that get offended if you take anything beyond face value.

I don't see any difference, don't know why they only suddenly realised.

I have never, under any circumstance, heard or seen people saying Homelander was the real good guy. The most charitable thing I have heard people say about him is: "I mean he's a sad case, but fuck him. He's literally evil." lol

@jacobwojciechowski1097

3 күн бұрын

Same here. They just took what Eric Kripke said in an interview where he made that claim and parroted it. It’s a baseless and stupid ass claim. Literally NOBODY thinks Homelander is the hero. Eric probably saw Homelander edits on TikTok and thought “wow they really love him they must think he’s the hero!”. Like what? No. People just like Anthony’s performance as Homelander and make edits of it. That doesn’t mean they think he’s the hero lol.

@karaoconnoraliasraidra

3 күн бұрын

The only comments I’ve seen like that were clearly satirical. You go to videos of The Boys promo clips and there are tongue-in-cheek comments like, “I remember when I was little and my parents took me to a meet-and-greet to see Homelander! It was great to meet a real hero!” I’ve never seen anyone un-ironically say that, only as a joke playing along with the lore.

@positiveecho326

2 күн бұрын

I just think Kripke is salty that people are saying his show has become more ham fisted. Unless proven otherwise, I’m filing that under “things that didn’t happen for 100.”

Wasn't the boy alway saterical

@johnwerner69

4 күн бұрын

Yup

@JB-sc1tg

4 күн бұрын

Yup. Since season 1 episode 1

@dre_withwithout

4 күн бұрын

Yes

@freddied8479

4 күн бұрын

It was, but some people were blinded by the violence and gore.

@oIRONITEo

4 күн бұрын

Yes it was, but it now has the subtley of a jack hammer. If you knew, you knew. And in the past the storyline was good enough to ignore the cringy digs at conservatives.

I actually like that boys isn't subtle, not every show needs Shakespearean levels of writing to get its point across.

@banquetoftheleviathan1404

4 күн бұрын

Doesn't seem like it can afford to be subtle with media literacy being non existent to some people.

@Thisisjustname

4 күн бұрын

The show was never really subtle.

@MrGMovieReviews

4 күн бұрын

@@Thisisjustname it was more subtle than this season

@tubguinace

4 күн бұрын

It's still more subtle than the average current day show or movie, at least they're using allegories and fictional situations to hint at real life instead of mainly referencing actual real life politics.

@MrGMovieReviews

4 күн бұрын

@@tubguinace it’s so on the nose and heavily alluded to though.

*4 seasons later* Right Wing Chuds: Wait....Are they making fun of me?

@Zikk0_o

Күн бұрын

4 seasons later Left-wing groomers: We love the EXACT same plotines as the last two seasons!!! Give us more, Consume Consume Consume

I'll be surprised if homelander dies/ mainly because he seems undestructable.

@exiledfrommyself

3 күн бұрын

He dies in the comics.

@BigMisterApple

2 күн бұрын

He dies in the comics due to a crowbar.

@doubletoastedbites5000

2 күн бұрын

Now why did @exiledfrommyself and @BigMisterApple have to go and spoil this shit in the comments?! C'mon y'all! lol - *Nick Diaz* _(Editor, Host of The Chat Attack Podcast)_ kzread.info

@christopherking4932

2 күн бұрын

@@doubletoastedbites5000 I guess it's my fault for putting my comment to begin with but they probably do something different on the show.

@BigMisterApple

2 күн бұрын

@@doubletoastedbites5000 Because the comic and the show are vastly different.

Not to say that there are not valid criticisms for season 4, but a lot of the complaints I have been seeing are from triggered, anti-woke types complaining about the show being political. There is this guy called Critical Drinker (an anti-woke reviewer) that said he is not even going to watch the season, but he had so much to say about how this season has gone downhill. More like Uncritical Drunk. There are people so offended that someone held a mirror to them that they will not even watch the show to form an opinion on it despite seeing the previous seasons and even liking previous seasons.

@camrendavis6650

4 күн бұрын

Oh I can't stand drinker. I used to watch these videos back in the day, and I just thought he was doing a bit, playing a character complaining about the world in a "these kids today" type manner. But he legit believes the shit he says, him and all the other idiots he collaborates with (Nerderotic, Mauler, Shadiversity, etc.). A bunch of self-righteous pricks who see themselves as saviors and ralliers against a cause that has nowhere near as much power or influence as they think and sometimes doesn't even exist They legit believe that children will watch these "woke" shows and turn gay or want to become trans or believe that women are equal or superior to men. That's stupid. And unfortunately, some of these bottom feeders have children of their own. I mean these people are in a great minority, but they are extremely loud and difficult to ignore

@kameronwright9925

4 күн бұрын

It's weird cause usually he has good points

@supertrendymoneymaker0722

3 күн бұрын

Critical Drinker is the same drunk 🥴 guy that would watch that Woke heavy Star Wars Acolyte with Weinstein assistant’s hands all over it, just to criticize it for more views, yet he don’t want to watch The Boys anymore??? 😂Give me a break Drinkerrrr haha… Go away now!!!

@ams914

3 күн бұрын

Well the whole season isn't out. So I assume he meant he won't "finish it."

@theobservarator6424

3 күн бұрын

​@@kameronwright9925 When?

The satire I like of The Boys is on consumerism, shameless marketing, and the evil of corporations.

This season is a very personal season imo they explored each main characters personal lives and I feel they didn’t make any real progress in eliminating homelander or Vicky while Vought is making progress in the background. Felt like a filler season imo

I’m putting some space before this question because it might have a spoiler alert. Has Homelander killed the family in the car yet? For those who don’t know, there was a scene in the comics in which a family won the chance to have Homelander take them on a flight. They got into their car and Homelander took off with them, but instead of going on the nice sightseeing trip they had been promised, the increasingly mentally unstable figure carried them up into the atmosphere where the air was nearly freezing. They asked him what was going on and he went on a rant with controversial comments and slurs. He then dropped the car, causing the family to plummet to their deaths. Why did he do this? Simply because he could. I don’t know if they’ll adapt that scene in the show, though.

If you didn't know, the boys were making fun of the right. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the show. Honestly politics have become so cartoony its hard not to be on the noise with it

@ganggang3788

4 күн бұрын

They been making jokes of the woke left and psycho conspiracy right for 3 years and some people are just now realizing this 🤣

@kneeco.6029

4 күн бұрын

@@ganggang3788They were never making fun of the “woke left”. They were mocking corporations hijacking social justice movements and aesthetics for profit and “progressive” politicians who proclaim values they don’t actually represent.

@exiledfrommyself

3 күн бұрын

​@@ganggang3788The show has made fun of the right and corporations, but it has never made fun of the left. Maybe I missed it somewhere.

@krystofbar9073

Күн бұрын

​@@exiledfrommyselfYeah you missed a lot lol

The Right are so slow it took 4 seasons for them to realise they're being laughed at 😂

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

It’s literally like that clip from That Mitchell and Webb Look with one of the nazis’s in the sketch asking “are we the baddies?”

@dr.wolfstar1765

4 күн бұрын

That's not bad. Look at how many years and bad movies it took Disney to realize no one wants to watch forced propaganda

@wlsntech

4 күн бұрын

It’s not that you didn’t know. It’s just getting too on the nose lately. Which even for me as a liberal leaning person makes me groan

@gcolbyp

4 күн бұрын

@@wlsntechIt’s always been on the nose since Season 1 😆

@Maxrepfitgm

4 күн бұрын

It's that homeschooling doing them no favors.

Homelander is clearly the hero, though.

The show's messaging in season 4 is just as "on the nose" as it was since season 1. The people that are just realizing this stuff NOW are so funny to me.

@RayvinKrossing

3 күн бұрын

No one is saying that the show was never political or even that it never made fun of the right (it obviously did). The complaint is that the writing for the political stuff just isn't as good this season. I think its pretty telling that people almost universally loved the first three seasons and season 4 has almost completely spit the fanbase in half.

@phantomprism7659

3 күн бұрын

You are dead ass wrong. This new season is way more "on the nose". The showrunner himself pretty much confirmed it. Quit gaslighting the fans.

@jacobwojciechowski1097

2 күн бұрын

@@loco_logic you are just lying to yourself if you think season 1 was as on the nose with its politics as season 4.

Season four has been amazing so far I don’t understand the complaining probably just a bunch of fickle ungrateful fans

@doubletoastedbites5000

2 күн бұрын

It could be a lot of people trying to stand out for saying the "unpopular opinion" just to stand out, not realizing that so many others are doing the same and now they all look stupid lol - *Nick Diaz* _(Editor, Host of The Chat Attack Podcast)_ kzread.info

Show me one video of someone saying Homelander is the hero of the show. Yall were better when you were Spill

@Zikk0_o

Күн бұрын

They won't. The typical excuse for a lot of media today is the easy right-wing target when the real problem is that companies milking franchises until they become husks of what people loved. The show's plot has just alowed to a crawl, and the fact that they've already announced another season just reeks of padding and milking the last drops they can before it's over.

I just don't like Frenchie side story because is already been done with his guilt of letting the top boss' grandson pass away

People act like it’s better to be subtle and that same group wasn’t able to understand that South Park episode was also making fun of both sides not just Disney. If a show claims outright a cast is lying and letting a person go after lazing them in public and they are confusing people into attacking innocent people and your mad cause you feel offended that their talking about your side then maybe look inward. If your side is good just ignore it and know it’s exaggerated satire if your side is like the show then idk what to say. I’m sure men who see men on tv beating woman don’t go ugh their making me look bad as a man since they said that man beats women. No it has nothing to say about you since you don’t do that. You say you are on the side that doesn’t do what the boys made fun of so just ignore it.

Some stuff in this season comes off as tone deaf to me. Overall still enjoying it though.

You know the show has always been criticizing the right because all of the left “criticism” was really just left-wing critiques about performative rainbow capitalism where corporations pat themselves on the back about how inclusive they are just to make a quick and easy buck. Even the “AOC” character isn’t really an AOC criticism and is just vaguely there due to both being young women in congress. In terms of actual actions Neuman doesn’t have much in common with AOC at all. I think she was just made to be an AOC type to make the twist in Season 2 hit much harder. I think the Boys has always worn its politics on its sleeve and it gets away with it because it’s such an over the top, exaggerated world. I think too many people think subtlety is inherently the only way to talk about these issues, but I disagree. Subtlety is a tool like any other. I think being this on the nose works for how absurd The Boys can be. Plus real-life politics is absurd to the point it’s hard for satire to not be on the nose. I remember the Onion saying a few years back that real-life politics is already a satire that it was harder for them to come up with material.

I enjoy the political commentary even if it's turned up to eleven, but I don't like how they maneuver some scenes like the vent escape, Annie losing control, Butcher contacting Ryan through online gaming and Victoria taking her assassination attempt too casually, to name a few. They could have done better in execution-use better scenarios.

I gotta see butcher take the temp v one more time tho. Like have him take it one more time he finishes homelander off and then dies

Great video bro

I'm not enjoying the subplots with Frenchie and Kimiko, almost feels like a waste of time. I actually was enjoying Hughie's subplot, but they ruined it by the end. We only have one more season, the show is wasting time with too many unrelated stories. They should focus on ending Neuman and Homelander and then go to the final conclusion to the story.

the boys actually accomplished it’s narrative to split the fanbase which is perfect

This narrative is such nonesense. I can't believe Double Toasted is buying into it. The idea that 50% of the fanbase is right wing Homelander apologists is ridiculous.

@LymphNode125

2 күн бұрын

Well it is..

There's some wonky stuff going on with the writing, but I mainly watch for the personal plots of the characters (human and super) which tend to be pretty good. The one that definitely seems forced is Frenchies. Where the dude should know not to even try to get romantically involved knowing what he did. As well as Firecrackers petty reason for hating Starlight.

@supertrendymoneymaker0722

3 күн бұрын

I can agree with you on Frenchie that is definitely forced, but Firecracker story against Starlight makes way more sense. She is the polar opposite of Starlight that was the point. I think too many people got their asses slapped 👋 by the mainstream media over Trump trial, and people are just in the mood to criticize everything. Suddenly The Boys is all Woke for some reason 😂 As soon as Critical Drinker made his point, every Antiwoke KZreadr follow in his footsteps joining the bandwagon. This damn show has been making fun of the Left and Right since season 1!!! Even the comics that was created during the Bush Administration, was a political satire to the Bush era!!! Why can’t people see that fact alone?

This show has always been political. The first season with the Religious Alt Right with the gay pastor stretch dude.

If you can ignore the gore, nasty scenes, and dumb shock humor, it does have a decent story.

Yeah... people not realizing Homelander isn't the villain, people's standards are pretty mess up, I mean... yes Homelander was made as a "product" and threaten as one growing up... and that can mess up a person... to make them a monster, kinda like a "Frankenstein monster" as he kinda was a lab rat and poster boy product to the company. Homelander is a literally a mess-up man-made corporation of "Superman", with fake back stories "he's an alien" until the lies leaks out. If companies can sell supers powers like products, they would, and wouldn't care any human health side effects or life lost, they only care of money and they can cut off or lie on the loses and get away with it.

I'm sorry, if you think The Boys is over the top now, you're not very bright. The show has been overtop with political commentary since day one.

@nichescenes

3 күн бұрын

Exactly. People act like it’s better to be subtle and don’t realize what you said. The same group wasn’t able to understand that South Park episode was also making fun of both sides not just Disney. If a show claims outright a cast is lying and letting a person go after lazing them in public and they are confusing people into attacking innocent people and your mad cause you feel offended that their talking about your side then maybe look inward. If your side is good just ignore it and know it’s exaggerated satire if your side is like the show then idk what to say. I’m sure men who see men on tv beating woman don’t go ugh their making me look bad as a man since they said that man beats women. No it has nothing to say about you since you don’t do that. You say you are on the side that doesn’t do what the boys made fun of so just ignore it.

Yeah some people complaining, “Man The Boys is too political now!” It’s always been political and they’ve never been subtle about it. All those dumbasses starting to realize the show was making fun of them the whole time. Even Anthony Starr was shocked that some fans really think he was like Homelander in real life. 😆 I have some criticisms with Season 4 but I am enjoying it so far.

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

It really goes to show that media literacy is dead

@keithmichael112

4 күн бұрын

I would say you could just enjoy the story before, and take or leave the other elements. Which is how it should be. The new seasons story is just not very interesting

@gcolbyp

4 күн бұрын

@@keithmichael112I mean we got 4 episodes so far and I want to see how the rest of the season goes. And while some subplots are more interesting than others, I still think the quality is still there, even if starting to show some cracks. Episode 4 though was great.

@jacobwojciechowski1097

2 күн бұрын

@@gcolbyp it is too political now. If you don’t think the show has gotten more political as time goes on you must be watching with your eyes closed. As for season four it’s wayyyyy more political. You think the 51% audience score came from no where? Compare the audience score to the other seasons. That alone is enough evidence to conclude that this season is more political than the rest. Also notice how every episode so far this season has a political satire in it which was absolutely not the case for other seasons. Firecrackers conventions, Sages joke of calling them “cousin f*ckers”, the news outlets parodying CNN, Firecracker calling Starlight a “baby killer” for getting an abortion, critical supe theory, Firecracker “confessing her sin” of sleeping with an underage boy, the list goes on… And can we just put the “now they’re realizing the show was making fun of them the whole time!1!!1!” To rest already?? In season 3 people were mentioning the politics becoming more blunt. I remember making posts on the boys subreddit and seeing several right leaning individuals point out how the show was making fun of right wing politics. Hell, I realized it too and I’m more right leaning but I just didn’t really care because it wasn’t so in my face. This stupid idea of saying people are “only now just realizing” is a baseless claim with zero evidence. It’s just a cope to negate the criticisms that the boys is getting too political. Even LEFT LEANING people are saying the show is too on the nose… I can link it if you really want 🤷‍♂️.

There's no way that people could be complaining about Season 4 suddenly getting "political". It was very obvious where things were going since at least Season 2, even the comics themselves weren't above satirizing aspects of the Bush administration IIRC. They'd have to be some real crayon eaters to not notice and complain Homelander always being the villain. That said, season 4 still doesn't feel satisfying either. Black Noir 2 just feels like a one note joke compared to the character arc last season, some of the references to current events just feel dated like it did in Season 3 with not much of an interesting spin on them, and there's just too many sideplots being thrown around and pointless scenes of people talking that it takes time away from the main plot. I'll still be interested in the spinoffs, but it feels like its time for the main series to wrap things up. They're starting to run out of steam and it feels like they're delaying the finale as much as they can.

Homelander let two planes go down with children on board? How could anyone possibly think he's the hero?

@jacobwojciechowski1097

3 күн бұрын

Exactly, that being said nobody thinks that. Thats just some bullshit they got from what the Director said in an interview. It’s a baseless claim and they’re just parroting it.

@sproductionsinc

2 күн бұрын

@@jacobwojciechowski1097I guess since you personally haven’t seen anyone say it…

@jacobwojciechowski1097

2 күн бұрын

@@sproductionsinc I mean I’ve yet to seen any proof of that statement and many people relate. If people really think Homelander is the hero then they are such a small percentage that it shouldn’t affect the writers like it is in season 4 anyway. But I’m open to see any source that proves an individual thinks Homelander is the hero. Otherwise I won’t believe it.

@sproductionsinc

2 күн бұрын

@@jacobwojciechowski1097 It was because right wingers don’t understand satire.

@jacobwojciechowski1097

2 күн бұрын

@@sproductionsinc cool, so all right wingers don’t understand satire? It’s not as if several of the Daily Wire faces (a right wing organization) creates satirical content. Jeez, do people not know how to critically think anymore?

The latest episode actually did make Homelander sympathetic in a psychopath "so this is why he's insane" way, at least to me. He was an experiment that turned on the people who experimented on him and many other kids, so I didnt exactly feel bad or angry at Homelander for what he did, as fucking crazy as it was

@Spoonky92

4 күн бұрын

More episodes like that are what I like or the moral dilemmas characters have about supers on whether they need to be killed or not if given the chance. But the blatant parallels to current events just feels weak in comparison in terms of writing.

@Chris_MKII

4 күн бұрын

@@Spoonky92 Yeah they're trying a little too hard on the political shit this season imo, but I mostly just put it to the back of my mind and focus on the side plots, like A Train and his arc, or the new characters, the relationship between Sage and The Deep is the most cringe worthy yet kind of sweet romance story

@loco_logic

4 күн бұрын

​@@Spoonky92 if they didn't include real world "ripped from the headlines" parallels, then it wouldn't be The Boys. That's been a major component of this show since season 1.

@mania4270

4 күн бұрын

​@Spoonky92 but that's what art is. It's all just a reflection of our current society and it's always been like that.

@supertrendymoneymaker0722

3 күн бұрын

@@loco_logic People minds have been broken from the polarization from both the left and right. It’s to the point where they can’t take a joke anymore. Everything is either too WOKE or Too Racist!!! Season 1 literally told us how our government truly operates if people actually listen 👂 like the plot where Homelander turn Terrorist into evil Sups smuggling compound V, only to bait and switch, being the hero against the very thing he created! Our government had CIA operations for years creating enemies to bait and switch, brainwashing the people.

Completely missing the point. Enough with the “oh they’re just now realizing they’re being made fun of” that’s not it. People are just tired of how on the nose the politics are. It happened during season 3 too where people mentioned that the show seemed to be getting more political. Only this season it’s ramped up a lot so more people are speaking up about it. With so many on-the-nose political beliefs disguised as jokes or satire are put into the show it takes you out of the world. Why do we need BLM mentioned? Why do we need “critical supe theory”? Why do we need Sage mentioning race and gender in every joke? Why do we need a parody of right wing conventions and extremist ideas? This takes you out from the world. It’s saying “HEY LOOK AT HOW STUPID THIS REAL LIFE THING IS!” When the setting is in a world of superheroes where the audience wants to escape into a fantasy world. The problem isn’t what side the boys are attacking. The problem is they are shoving their politics in the audiences faces so much that season four is unappealing to watch because people can’t focus on the actual story and characters. Another thing: nobody thought homelander was a hero. I would love to see one example of someone who thought that. It’s clear you heard Eric Kripke say that in that one interview and parroted it even though it’s a baseless claim. The closest thing to people thinking Homelander is the hero is edits of Homelander simply because Anthony Starr is a great actor. People make edits of his performances and put them into memes because Anthony conveys a lot of emotion that people relate to on some level and want to express. It’s not because they idolize homelander. They just just see Anthony acting a certain way as Homelander and think “this clip could be used for a meme or an edit”. Thats literally it. Nobody thinks homelander is the hero stop with this delusional statement already.

@phantomprism7659

3 күн бұрын

You completely nailed it! I can't believe the BS narrative that is surrounding the show right now. It's more annoying than the show itself. I mean sure this new season is more "in your face" with its politics but it's still pretty good overall. I still wanna watch it. But these toxic extremist fans are making me NOT wanna watch it. I hear all this chatter about "homelander apologists" but they are nowhere to be found. Instead all I see are preachy liberals who think they're better than everyone who doesn't completely agree with 100% of their opinions... and that includes other liberals lol. There's plenty of left leaning people who think this show has gotten too political and far removed from what made season 1 great to begin with and it's almost hilarious seeing thiese left leaning fans who have criticisms be demonized and categorized as "evil right wingers". Like seriously what a joke!

@slammermchammer

3 күн бұрын

Dude it was up front about its politics during season 1 if it's taking you to season 4 to figure that out that's your problem not the shows Media literacy is not what it used to be i guess

@jacobwojciechowski1097

3 күн бұрын

@@slammermchammer bro I know it’s always made political jokes against the right even in season 1. But season 1 was FAR more subtle and it didn’t take you out of the world. Season 1 was focused on building things up. In season 4 every single episode mocks far right politics. Even the most recent episode with Firecracker saying sleeping with an underage boy and confessing it before calling Starlight a baby killer for having an abortion. The other seasons didn’t have this problem where half the season was satirizing one side of politics. It simply didn’t happen. It’s not that I didn’t realize the right was being made fun of. It’s that I ignored it and still enjoyed the show until this point where it’s so in my face with mocking politics several times per every episode that it’s frustrating because it takes me out of the world. Stop with that stupid parroting “you just now figure out? 🤓”. No mf. Listen. Season 4 is way more on the nose and in your face compared to the other seasons, especially season 1. If you think season 1 was as equally expressive with the writers political views you’re just lying to yourself.

@jacobwojciechowski1097

3 күн бұрын

@@phantomprism7659 agreed. I’ve seen several left leaning individuals say they think the show is too political in season 4 as well. It’s a genuine concern. It’s not just that the right is triggered or something. People just don’t like ideas shoved in their face. It’s funny, because a lot of the time left leaning people say things like “don’t shove your religion down our throats” or etc to the right. Yet, I guarantee some of those same people are completely fine with the writers of The Boys shoving their political opinions down our throats because they agree with them. It’s so stupid.

@sproductionsinc

2 күн бұрын

It depends what you believe is an “opinion” or “belief.”

Anthony starr needs a Grammy e4 was like really good

@gcolbyp

4 күн бұрын

I think you meant Emmy cause Grammys is music

@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg

2 күн бұрын

Emmy*

"On the nose" I feel like somethings have to be bc so many stupid people will not get unless it's obvious AF

@LuznoLindo

4 күн бұрын

I respect creative works that don't make things "on the noise" at all more, though, since it actually forces people to think.

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

*nose

@banquetoftheleviathan1404

4 күн бұрын

Doesn't "force" people to think if they can just misinterpret it tho. But the original message of the boys comic kinda sucks tbh

@anuph.3806

4 күн бұрын

speaking for yourself?

MAGAbros review-bombing the show because they couldn't handle the conspiracy convention episode gives me so much life. That hushed "these people are lifeless losers that no one will remember" bit was so strong.

@Zikk0_o

Күн бұрын

More like we want the damn plot to move on. It's boring and just dragging at this point. How many more times do we have to sit here and watch Homelander about to snap and be doesn't? How many more Frenchie and Kimiko side quests that go nowhere do we need to endure? How many more times do we need to see Butcher down in the dumps? It's getting bad reviews because NOTHING is happening outside of the same old song n dance.

@FishSkeleton-

Күн бұрын

@Zikk0_o I'm with you on 2/3 of those. While I'm enjoying the current Homelander stuff a lot, I've always found Frenchie and most of his subplot rather boring. Butcher I'm feeling neutral about right now, but the boring back-and-forth between M.M. and him about who's in charge is getting old fast. Regardless, that doesn't change the mountain of complaints people have been lodging about how they feel the show's gotten "too woke," or about how they feel Homelander's now being "made to look like a bad guy now." Just hilarious stuff.

@Zikk0_o

Күн бұрын

@FishSkeleton- Show me someone who thinks Homelander is a good guy who isn't being sarcastic. Nobody's disputing that there are political jabs, but it's so on the nose that it's taken over too much of the story. It's become too obvious that the writer's own agenda has been put at the forefront of the show. Like, I shouldn't be able to predict exactly what's about to happen in most moments or that things conveniently line up to real-life events. I mean, let's be honest. A joke about right wingers is about the most overused concept in today's media, and if you're gonna tell me that they make fun of both sides at the same level, then you're being disingenuous. I can almost assure you that they're lazy enough to make a Jan 6th reference by the end of this season because that's how predictable it is. Politics in media has become so ingrained in this era that it's no wonder the movie industry is failing.

@FishSkeleton-

Күн бұрын

@Zikk0_o The show's always been really on the nose though. That's part of why I think it's so fun. Senator 'Newman' who looks like AOC from the Freshman Four, references to GamerGate and #MeToo, and plenty else. You're wrong that I'd say it's equal on both sides, since it's always leaned hard away from conservative values. Homelander's outfit was originally very Nazi-themed, but they felt that was too much and not interesting enough, so they draped him in the flag instead, inspired by the quote "the last refuge of a scoundrel is patriotism." Very anti-right sentiment.

@Zikk0_o

Күн бұрын

@FishSkeleton- It wasn't anywhere near what it is now. It wasn't until the show became a hit that it was brought to the forefront. There's literally no reason Homelander should still be playing along with what he deems as "playthings," after all that's happened. Like I said before, how many more episodes is he gonna toe the line in snapping before someone convenietly talks him down? They're deliberately dragging the political and election plotline out in what is conveniently happening during a real-life election year. Looking like AOC isn't portraying AOC, though, is it? At no point do they portray Newman acting like AOC, where as they'll happily portray a right leaning character or situation as a direct reference to something in real life with intent.

This is the thing with social and political commentary, people (especially right-wing folks) get upset if a message is too obvious but if it's not obvious and more subtle it completely flies over their heads and they misinterpret it. I genuinely think with SW for example, a lot of these guys didn't pick up on the fascist overtones from the Empire despite their uniform scheme (and even some of the names of their military units) being base on the Nazis.

@freddied8479

4 күн бұрын

Yeah it's like some people complaining about X-Men being "woke" now... like it's always been "woke," how do you not get that? 😂

You'd have to be deliberately looking for people who actually think that. I have yet to see anyone actually view Homelander as good or relatable. The real criticisms are getting swept under the rug while blaming right-wingers because it's an easy way out. The show's progression is slow as hell, and the overall plot is just dragging on and on to the point where you'd have to be very naive to not see how they're just milking every last drop. How many more times are we gonna sit here and watch the same plotlines play out again and again? Frenchie and Kmiko on yet another PTSD side story? Butcher and MM bickering over NOTHING? More Homelander media blackmail? Like the show is just in limbo, and nothing is really happening. It's Walking Dead 2.0

I just wasn't all that impressed with this season. all the praise antho Anthony star is getting is well deserved but at this point I wasn't as surprised as I was in earlier seasons. Still a fantastic show

This show always been saterical

The first season was making fun of a lot of Bush era stuff. The whole plot with getting supes in the military and Homelander using the plane crash to get the government to approve sending supes to fight in the Middle East was a parody of the faulty and falsified intelligence used to start the second Iraq War. They were pretty much quoting Bush and Fox News talking points from that time. But that was 15 years ago. It's just not as fresh in people's minds. Now they're making fun of more recent events. And people think it's more obvious because we just experienced it. Also, those people are going to be even more pissed if the show uses the supe uprising plot from the comics.

@Thisisjustname

4 күн бұрын

Seriously, maybe because I came into politics deeply during the Bush era, but the show has never been subtle and has always been making fun of right wing politics the most. Plus, I never cared about the books

It’s obviously left-leaning, but they’ve gotten a little sloppy and too on-the-nose over the past season to the point of getting cringe

@doubletoastedbites5000

2 күн бұрын

This I can agree with for sure. It's too manufactured and very surface level shit that I feel like anyone could write. - *Nick Diaz* _(Editor, Host of The Chat Attack Podcast)_ kzread.info

What criticism?, he only one's i've been seeing are from the weirdos that keeps complaining about fallout tv show, "reviewers" from triggered clown channels that complain about everything smh. Also was this show not always satirical, or am I thinking beyond the lenses.

If you think this show was ever subtle at any point, you weren't paying attention. Bit weird to see people suddenly saying the political commentary is too on the nose like we didn't just come from a season where they introduced a character who may as well have just been named Watt Malsh

Personally, I don’t care. This show has always been political. It really goes to show that media literacy is dead. But I guess in this case, It doesn’t really help that this season is coming out while political tensions are already high as it is with the election coming.

@Peer165

4 күн бұрын

Maybe it's exactly what we need right now.

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

Maybe, but most people don’t see it that way. They would rather be ignorant about the world.

Both sides of politics are lame

5 episodes in and what is the plot? Seriously they arent even advancing any plot anymore. Just a bunch of useless subplots that nobody cares about.

I couldn’t get past the first episode.

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

you a hater

@vkain100

3 күн бұрын

@@antoineLebrane It’s not for me or people like me 🤷🏿‍♂️

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

@@vkain100 i hope its not cuz of "political stuff" cuz that would make you a lame

@vkain100

3 күн бұрын

@@antoineLebrane People with politics different from yours are lame? If you must know, I didn’t like all the gay stuff.

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

@@vkain100 i dont even care about politics and the frenchie storyline sucks i agree with that but the political aspect isnt bad

"Sees title" Oh this could actually be a really interesting discussion if they approach it in good faith, I wonder what they will say. "Almost immediately says that everyone that are criticizing the show are part of Qanon, the proud boys, conspiracy theorists, Maga, etc and they also believed that Homelander was the good guy".

@tiphanieseantay958

3 күн бұрын

Ditto

@TheCaptainhowdy11

2 күн бұрын

You have no idea what good faith is.... especially if you listen to Critical Drinker 😂

These are the same people saying 'I liked Rage Against The Machine before they got all political!'

I think the people who are review bombing are the people that just watch homelander edits and haven't watched the show. Alot of ppl think homelander is the hero and it's scary as fuck.😮

@oIRONITEo

4 күн бұрын

I promise you not one person truly believes that Homelander is a good guy, let alone the hero of the show.

@jaydixon9452

3 күн бұрын

@@oIRONITEo well they definitely look up to him and like him but not in an ironic way that you would like a villain for being a villain. Truly look at the comments of videos on homelander, they love his violent and sadistic ways shits. I like homelander as a villain as a force to go against, not a dude I'd want to grab a beer with or review bomb a show for like 😒

@antoineLebrane

3 күн бұрын

@@jaydixon9452naw go grab a beer with him😂

@jaydixon9452

3 күн бұрын

@@antoineLebrane yeah and get my guts ripped through my ass as homelander laughs maniacally because I said something wrong or right.

@theobservarator6424

3 күн бұрын

​@@oIRONITEo I promise you there are people that absolutely think he is the hero.

I dig this season.🤘🏻🎱🤘🏻

I don’t think the show is bad now but there are plot lines and character choices that are messing with the good stuff they have going on. I don’t really care about Huey’s mom. Firecracker is annoying and Starlight isn’t doing much about it. MM is weirdly dumb when he is leading the Boys. The whole thing with Colin and Frenchie came out of nowhere and could’ve been cut entirely! Meanwhile, the good stuff they got going on with Butcher, Homelander and Ryan is interesting. I also want to see what’s the deal with Kimiko tracking down her captors. This should be the focus going forward for sure! Also I’ve always thought the show was satirical but never subtle so all of that is going about how I expected this show to be. If somehow you have a problem with the show as someone who’s more politically right-leaning then I hate to break it to you, but the shows always been left-leaning satire. (I don’t know how the Gun Show from season 3 didn’t make that obvious to you.)

I think it's because Homelander is supposed to be a dig on Trump.

Who said homelander was a hero? Me personally im getting tired of all the male nudity.

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

There are people who are unironically fans of Homelander. But not in a “I like him as villain” way, more like “Homelander did nothing wrong” way.

@totallyradwithjosie3225

4 күн бұрын

@comixproviderftw_02 ill admit there's a few times where homelander was justified like in the recent episode but those moments are very rare.

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

@@totallyradwithjosie3225While you may argue that it was justified, at the end day, he’s still a bad person who did bad things.

@madfox1006

4 күн бұрын

​@@comixproviderftw_02The Wanda fans should learn from this

@totallyradwithjosie3225

4 күн бұрын

@comixproviderftw_02 oh I'm not arguing that it wasn't bad, it was. He's a villain through and through.

I haven't watched this show yet, but isn't Homelander being a "superhero" _[citation needed]_ with extreme political beliefs pretty much the whole point of his character?

@comixproviderftw_02

4 күн бұрын

Not just Homelander but pretty much supporters of the Seven in general

I love it.

this season of the boys is so good that you guys finished the video talking about an entirely different show

I only have issues with the subplots, hueys dad, Frenchies love life, kimikos sibling or whatever. Too much side fluff

I'm going to watch this series until the end, but I also recognize the show as gaslighting, and not hitting the way the first 2-3 seasons did. The show actually did seem to be way more even-handed with its satire, now it doesn't feel that way anymore. Just more cartoonish and often false depictions of MAGA or whatever. When they show MAGA warring against the other side, why isn't the other side Antifa? Instead they're the "Starlighters" who are good guys? The show would hit so much harder if it didn't take a side, but just skewered both sides, and did it with accuracy. They could have a storyline where they convince The Deep to transition into being a woman as a part of mending his image and gaining followers. NOW THAT, would be funny and dangerously true to life. Why don't they force Homelander to do diversity training and he winds up killing the instructor because she's so annoying? See where I'm going with this? Unless you're partisan and on the left, it's just trite to make fun of the right at this point. And if you're going to do it, you gotta hit the other side, too. But I suspect that Kripke is too political himself to be able to even do this. That's a problem. Watching a human centipede of eating ass isn't bold. It's just gross.

@exiledfrommyself

3 күн бұрын

They're not making fun of the right. It's an accurate portrayal of them.

@sproductionsinc

2 күн бұрын

You definitely don’t have to pick on both sides to make it enjoyable as long as it’s written well. A specific side has far more vile beliefs than the other.. just a fact.

@sproductionsinc

2 күн бұрын

@@exiledfrommyselfThey were accurate in Don’t Look Up, too, & maga complained lol

Isn't it ironic that the ones who love to call people snowflakes are actually themselves, looking in the mirror😅

Made it to season 2, and stopped. I don't appreciate propaganda from any corporation, and this crap is too on the nose. Anti-corporate philosophy brought to you by Amazon is over the line. Everything in media has to be dark and edgy for the sake of being dark and edgy.

@TrentonSmith-vd9wf

4 күн бұрын

That’s a terrible take

@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg

4 күн бұрын

Vought is doing exactly what a corporation would do in a world where superheroes and politics collide lol...and the show like the comic is dark, brutal, graphic, etc.

@Psilocybin77

3 күн бұрын

@@TrentonSmith-vd9wf anything I’ve learned from YT and social media, there are lots of really dumb people that eat up propaganda and ask for more.

I know I can skip this video because… there isn’t any criticisms.

The only reason homelander was a interesting character was because he was revered as a hero in the universe but the audience and the boys know how diabolical he is. Way to strawman legit criticisms tho.

They arent making fun of trump supporters. If they were, everbody would be laughing and it would have 100% audience score and not 50%. They are making fun of their delusional idea of trump supporters. Its so cringey. You have to have tds to enjoy season 4 to the fullest. Oh and no one thought homelander was the hero. Where do yall get this? Making the villian trump is getting old btw. Its sooo over done and it doesnt make any since. No average person wants writers delusional politics and an agenda in their show. Thats why the audience scores are so bad.

I enjoyed the first season of the boy's but similar to the walking dead i lost interest after the 3rd season

@Mr.Nyongo

4 күн бұрын

The third season was pretty lame. You could tell they didn't know where to go and even worse how to end it. The finale was not great. BUT season four has been WAAAY better than the third.