Glenn hughes didnt quit he was let go, glenn had a bad cocaine habit at the time and the stipulation to him singing in sabbath was he couldnt do cocaine, but he was allowed to drink booze, undersupervision of tony or the manager. Long story short their was an altercation between glenn and the manager and glenn got his nose broken causing blood and mucas to pool around his vocal chords then the blood dried causing him not to be able to sing for i think 1-2 yrs. There are interviews of glenn and tony recounting this story and footage of his performance that night with blood in his throat. Ray gillen was broughtin to finish the tour with glenn still techinally still in the band.

@thomasclarke2880

3 ай бұрын

There's definitely a few belters on the The 1996 Dep Sessions with Iommi and Glenn.

Recently revisited these albums, some definite magic in there

Thanks for making this video Alan, there's many golden nuggets in these under appreciated albums. I have a lot of love for "Born Again" it's rough and ready - fun to listen to!

Love the Ray Gillen takes on the bonus cd Deluxe Eternal Idol. Odd considering the title guide you discussed a Dio record anyway.

Excellent Video 🤘

I would give Headless Cross full marks. Tony Martin is a great singer for sure. His latest solo album Thorns also shows his interesting songwriting ideas - definitely worth checking out!

UP!

Interesting fact- Black Sabbath never used the same band logo twice. Thanks for this video, it's about one of my favourite topics!

Tony Martin era fuckin rules! Born Again fuckin rules too!

I've always loved the Tony Martin albums (sans Forbidden, like most). They're really soaring, majestic works. And yes, Tony was undeniably the most skilled singer Sabbath ever had, and easily my favorite.

Excellent video here Alan mate. Dio and Martin era for me are very underrated. Top stuff as always dude 😉

@AlanAverillNemtheanga

3 ай бұрын

Do people under rate the Dio era still? I guess there are people who under rate anything that ain't Ozzy.....but almost all these albums I'm chatting about here I prefer to for example 'Never say die' or 'technical ecstasy'.....but this all said there isn't really any Sabbath album I actively dislike....

@HM2dylanpowell

3 ай бұрын

@@AlanAverillNemtheanga from what I’ve seen they get shit on? But yeah I’m with you mate very objective honest review as always Al mate

I agree. Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath!!! Ozzy & and Sharon do everything in their power to rewrite Black Sabbath's history and discredit the non Ozzy albums and aggressively and disrespectfully shit on their vocalists mainly RJD. I guess the fact that Ozzy is the worst vocalist in the bands history must make them (paranoid) and so defensive. It's really laughable, if you think about it, but also proves money can't buy everything. Ozzy's legacy is cemented as one of the greatest, so show some class, be proud of it, and let it do your talking for you. There is no need to shit on and try to erase or cancel others. Having said that, there's only 2 albums in the entire Sabbath catalog that I do not really like and that's "Never Say Die" & "Forbidden," and it is not because of the vocalist or their performance on either of those and even those albums have some good stuff on them. Take some time and read up on Ray Gillen.. (there's some crazy shit out there). Another Good One Alan!

I have all of these on CD. Born Again is a mixed bag, but far from terrible, but Eternal Idol, Seventh Star, Headless Cross and Tyr are fantastic albums! I'm so glad that they get a re-release abd more attention. Cross Purposes is decent, but Forbidden is mediocre at best, but even that has some good rifs. They whole story of this band is so fascinating. To think that there was a tile when Sabbath had to cancel shows... There are many thibgs that could be better today, but thankfully the love of classic metal lives on stronger than ever, so that old masters get their deserved attention.

Hey Alan, would love a Judas Priest discography video someday. I'm curious about your opinion on Turbo (and whether I should buy it or not).

I can't wait for someone to do an AI of Ian Gillan singing The Seventh Star album.

i acquired Headless Cross for free, left behind by some guy that had moved out of a house we partied in. we were told to work away at them great album.

I don’t understand the dislike for Born Again. It’s a killer metal record. I like the Martin albums too, but, Born Again blows them out of the water.

Criminally overlooked and include myself in that. I remember those albums being released to ridicule by the magazines. I was pnly interested in thrash at the time. You have to respect tony iommi for keeping going. You have to question the mnagement or guidance he was recieving. Thanks for another great video. Thats my listening fior today sorted out.

Couldn’t agree more. Tony Martin is sorely underrated

You’ve got Halford performance with BS on yt.

Headless Cross is my favorite Martin era album, The Eternal Idol is also super killer, very underrated era of the band. Born Again I like the production but it's only got a couple really good songs can't hold a candle to the Martin era

TV Crimes from Dehumanizer is a effing rager!

Born Again is underrated and i think is Rob Death Dealer's favourite album.

Some of the songs on Forbidden are not that bad. It has its place. 'Can't get close enough' and 'I won't cry for you' are probably my favorite songs. The production and mix was bad, and Tony was not sounding as great as on earlier records. I will still definitely check out the remixed version that's coming out soon.

Ray Gilen wasn't in Damn YAnkees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@AlanAverillNemtheanga

3 ай бұрын

Badlands right!?….

Born Again, Tyr, Forbidden, Cross Purposes, Dehumanizer, Headless Cross ... I'll take them over all the Ozzy albums.

obviously not Appice on Heaven and Hell but Mob Rules....ahem....one metal point against me

@mikelarson8790

3 ай бұрын

Fuckin hell Alan, yet again I find you spouting obscure, semi-unpopular opinions on albums that no one fucking even talks about. I worship Seventh Star. Check out “Eighth Star,” when ya got a moment. Love Tony Martin era with Eternal Idol and Headless being my favorites. There’s a killer Ray Gillen demo of Eternal Idol, also the live gig in Montreal from that era Btw: I’m mates with Darragh, play in Slutvomit/Hexenslaught. Was meaning to hit ya up cause I reckon you’re comin to my necka the woods (Seattle.) I’ll try n find another way to reach out to you.

@AlanAverillNemtheanga

3 ай бұрын

@@mikelarson8790 try that indeed! yeah I know 8th star! who can argue with 'Angr y Heart'?

@MrAaronbathory

3 ай бұрын

​@@mikelarson87901:47 Your bands are bloody great.

@mikelarson8790

3 ай бұрын

@@MrAaronbathory cheers bud! Appreciate it!

I think Forbidden is a much better album than people claim it to be.

Ray Gillen had AIDS and died in December 1993 due to the associated circumstances

@AlanAverillNemtheanga

3 ай бұрын

damn! i did not remember that....must be thinking of someone else, Powell died in a car crash right? his version of eternal idol is on the new double disc correct?

@johnmurphy5739

3 ай бұрын

Both correct!

@EdwardMonk

3 ай бұрын

Ray Gillen purposely infected women with AIDS. The families of the victims sued his estate and part of the law suite was that none of the albums that he sang on could ever be released again! Very weird.

@johanneskonig5385

3 ай бұрын

Forbidden will be released with a new mix. Guitar and Drums Sound has been improved. So the drum now sounds the way Cozy would have wanted it to

@bcek007

3 ай бұрын

@@AlanAverillNemtheanga He was not a good person. He knew about his illness (AIDS), took his pills and had sex with a girls without telling them about it. One of groupies died because it. I remember that on Eddie Trunk show was hold an interview with Jake E. Lee I guess. He said that because of agree between families of his victims and band there is no reissiues of their albums. There are not in the streaming services too. I checked on my Tidal and there is only a band, but without music. He lied his bandmates about it too, when they asked him. Yeap, but his vocals on the album rules. BTW: If you can, you should read before the talk with Addi bio of Tony Iommi - Iron Man. It's not typical biography, it's more like pack of the impressions, thoughts and funny situations about Sabbs.