Sounds like Alexander would have been better off spiking the ball into the ground on every single pitch.

@andrewpadaetz5549

Жыл бұрын

I'm wondering what the baseball equivalent of the 39.6 QB rating would be-maybe WAR of 0.0?

@bench8535

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewpadaetz5549 probably more like -3.0 war

@OhThankKevin

Жыл бұрын

Well played

Alexander went 9-0 for the Tigers in 1987 after being acquired from the Braves in midseason, and led the Tigers to the AL East championship. As you mentioned, he made his first All-Star Game with the Tigers in 1988. However, it’s safe to say that many Tigers fans don’t look back on Alexander’s acquisition with a great deal of fondness.

@michaelwall213

Жыл бұрын

As a lifelong Braves fan, I remember that 1987 trade very well. In exchange, the Braves got some kid named John Smoltz - I wonder whatever became of him...

@markbrown4039

Жыл бұрын

As a Tigers fan, I actually enjoyed watching Alexander work. He was a very solid starter. Too bad he'll only be remembered in Tigers lore for the Smoltz trade.

@philipyu1611

Жыл бұрын

He was loved in Toronto upon being acquired by the Blue Jays and reviled after he gave them fits in '87 in that Tigers uniform. But it did end up working out up here with Alexander being flipped for a then-raw Duane Ward.

@CutterHistorical

Жыл бұрын

DONT MENTION THAT 1987 RUN TO A JAYS FAN LIKE ME!!!

@muggsyaxton8085

Жыл бұрын

Got knocked around in the '87 LCS by the Twins too.

This is the pitcher who infamously got traded to Detroit for John Smoltz, and before while he was in Atlanta, helped get a former honorably discharged MP named Kevin Nash a job at a nightclub, which would eventually lead to a career in wrestling. This was when the Yankees became the Bronx Burners for a few years (traded power for speed) and it didn't really work too well. This is also about the time they had the mascot Dandy.

@Salvatore1268

Жыл бұрын

No foolin wow great story

@OhThankKevin

Жыл бұрын

Oh Dandy

I’m no fan of George Steinbrenner, but I have to take his side here. I have a feeling this won’t be the last video you make involving The Boss

the thing people leave out when mentioning the doyle alexander for john smoltz trade: braves gave up duane ward to get him from the jays, ward helping them win more world series than smoltz and doyle managed to get. as a result of the trades, at least one of them managed to make the playoffs every year from 1987-2005 with the exceptions of 1988 and 1990 (tigers in 87, blue jays in 89,91-93 and braves from 91-05, though no playoffs in 1994 plus smoltz was injured all of 2000, but braves still made postseason). it's also not the only 1987 trade that worked out for both teams, even if worked out means 2 different things (pads/giants made a trade that year, pads getting 1989 cy young winner mark davis out of it, giants getting 1989 nl mvp kevin mitchell out of it

You neglected to mention the strike shortened season of 1981. Which explains why his 11- 7 record wasn't as unimpressive as it sounds.

@Robert-qm5so

9 ай бұрын

I thought he was pretty good that year 👌

In addition to Smoltz, Alexander was traded with others for Frank Robinson in 1972. Imagine bookending a career being traded for HOFs.

"He practicing deep breathing and was calm about being taken out.... actually no he punched a wall." I love this channel.

Fun Fact #1: Alexander started Game 1 of the 1976 World Series for the Yankees. Fun Fact #2: Red Sox Pitcher Al Nipper took of his glove after he hit a batter and said batter rushed the mound. Nipper then proceeded to throw punches with his non-pitching hand.

@andrewpadaetz5549

Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing that batter was Darryl Strawberry in 1987 spring training after what happened in the '86 WS?

@creeper2054

Жыл бұрын

I believe it was actually Phil Bradley of the Mariners. Hit him square on the jaw with a left hook at Fenway.

Not the first time the Jays fleeced the Yankees in the 80s after getting Doyle Alexander, Fred McGriff anyone?

@philipyu1611

Жыл бұрын

Sure as hell helped that Pat Gillick had been in the Yankees' front office, as he definitely took his knowledge of their farm system with him!

@thomasconaboy1441

9 ай бұрын

McGriff was in Dec. 1982 for Dale Murray among others. Alexander was released by the Yankees in May 1983 and signed by Toronto. Not a trade.

@thomasconaboy1441

9 ай бұрын

@@philipyu1611 Gillick had been gone from NY and in Toronto by the time McGriff was drafted by the NYY. But I agree he left NY and took a wealth of knowledge with him and made good with it.

Love these stories 😀love this channel Jaguar Gator

So much drama with the Yankees in the 80s. Pretty much extreme version of days of our steelers with multiple feuds

It would be good for JG to realize that he can just provide context without an extended announcement that he is going to provide context. One day it may happen.

Made no difference--Milwaukee and Baltimore were way better than the Yankees that year

Probably the craziest season in Yankees history.

By the late 1980s, George Steinbrenner was saying the same thing about Dave Winfield.

@pronkb000

Жыл бұрын

IIRC Winfield did not have an XBH in postseason until his game-winning double in extra innings of Game 6 of the '92 WS. Granted, he went about 11 years between postseason appearances.

i ran onto the field of CNE Stadium the afternoon Doyle clinched the pennant for the Toronto Blue Jays in 1985. The entire Blue Jays team hoisted up Dour Doyle and Doyle body surfed from the Pitcher's Mound to the dug out. Talk About FUn!

I love the channel

Glad to see you doing some baseball stuff.. love the NFL and college football chaannels. Have a few ideas for videos for you.. one is Marty Bergen, Catcher for the Boston Beaneaters in the 1890's... went insane, literally... Then there's Len Koenecke, played for the Dodgers in the 1930's.. got drunk on an airplane and fought with the pilot.. There are LOTS of interesting stories from baseball's early days that many channels don't cover.. those are 2

@brianthomas2434

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, there's no VIDEO of that stuff. Interesting, sure, visual, no.

@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace

Жыл бұрын

@@brianthomas2434 There are pictures of the players and teams.. Can work with that. 90% of the time when I'm "watching" these.. I'm just listening to the narration while my eyes are on other things. You don't need VIDEO to tell the story, and the NFL and College channels have some GREAT stories. Such a shame that we have a generation that NEEDS video to be entertained

@brianthomas2434

Жыл бұрын

@@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace don't need to convince me. OTHER channels do exactly what you suggest. Mr. JaguarGator has not done that on his channels. Maybe your advocacy will make him change.

@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace

Жыл бұрын

@@brianthomas2434 I've seen a few NFL videos where he says "unfortunately, there is no video of the play" and the video is highlights of players involved.. he could do something similer. Baseball's best stories happened before every pitch was filmed and saved. And some happened off the field.

@brianthomas2434

Жыл бұрын

@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace well said! I'll go you one, no, TWO better. Podcasts? Well researched, no need for a visual element. OR.... When I was a boy, we had this technology, it was called "print " and they had these wonderful items called books. Seriously though. I would be surprised if Mr. Gator ventured much before the video era. IT'S JUST NOT WHAT HE DOES. I don't picture him looking for newspaper accounts from the Forties or Twenties. But again, I am not the person to discuss this with. I don't think it's in Mr. JaguarGator's wheelhouse.... But I could be wrong.

This is very similar to what happened that same year with another NY team the Cosmos of the NASL & legendary Brazilian defender Carlos Alberto. Unlike this, Alberto had been reacquired by the Cosmos at the beginning of the 1982 season after spending the 1981 season in Anaheim with the California Surf. Prior to that however, Alberto had spent 3 years in NY with the Cosmos from 1977-80 & even though Pele personally brought him in, he caused mayhem during that time as he beat up a stadium worker at Giants Stadium during a practice, attempted to fight the entire Vancouver Whitecaps squad during a game in 1979 & spat in the face of a referee during a playoff game that same year & was suspended, which cost the Cosmos a berth in Soccer Bowl 79 because he was their top defender. Despite all of these incidents I mentioned in the previous stint, the Cosmos welcomed Alberto back under the condition that he would not cause any trouble. That only lasted a few weeks as Alberto refused to come off the bench & demanded a starting spot even though he was better suited to a bench player role given his age. However the Cosmos learned their lesson from before as the drama was quickly quelled after they told Alberto to either come off the bench or risk losing all of salary for that season. This worked as the Cosmos won that year's Soccer Bowl & Alberto was able to retire with one more trophy to go along with the 1970 World Cup he won with Brazil.

The 1982 Yankees lost Reggie to free agency. In response, the Boss decreed a speed/contact offense so Ken Griffey Sr. and Dave Collins became Yankees aka the Bronx Burners. Other 1982 NYY drama: three managers none named Martin, Bucky Dent, Lee Mazzilli, Bert Campaneris...I leave those topics hanging in case JG7 is going there.

@Unknown-bq9id

Жыл бұрын

Their treatment of Ken Griffey Sr. caused his son, Ken Griffey, Jr., to refuse to play for the Yankees...

@pronkb000

Жыл бұрын

Bill James on the Yankees' new speed/contact-based offense after the season: "The chances that this might work were about the same as the chances that Ronald Reagan might elope with Joan Baez."

@thomasconaboy1441

9 ай бұрын

Campaneris was on the team in 1983.

@NJGuy1973

5 ай бұрын

And who could forget Rich Gossage's tirade at the media?

When I saw the title I thought this was gonna be about the Yankees players who traded wives, but that was 1972, not 1982.

I guess the team was rocked for 1982 losing Reggie Jackson but did seem to rebound in 1983 back into contention? They did win 91 games in 1983

The Minnesota Timberwolves have entered the chat.

Fortunately this would be the last time any team would regret trading for Doyle Alexander lol

6:02 to 6:26 10/10 EPIC TROLL!

Why didn't the Yankees juts keep Alexander in the bullpen?

Some decent pitchers just can't find success in New York: Doyle Alexander, Ed Whitson, and Steve Trout, who pitched back-to-back shutouts with the Cubs in 1987 before being traded to the Yankees and going 0-4 with a 6.60 ERA.

2:00 - "...between *him* and the Yankees..."

Alexander is a guy that in my head was always in his 40s

@thomasconaboy1441

9 ай бұрын

And retired at 39

Orioles sent two malcontents to Yankees in that favorably lopsided 5-for-5 trade deadline deal in 1976. One was Doyle Alexander, other was Ken Holtzman. Remember watching a water-logged White Sox game at Comiskey Park with Alexander having one of his Texas Rangers infield teammates clean the accumulated clay from his spikes. Most pitchers do this on their own.

@randall44lee

9 ай бұрын

Yet it was the Yankees who went on to win the world series in 77 and 78, and the Orioles doing what they did best under Earl Weaver, choke in big games.

@NJGuy1973

4 ай бұрын

@@randall44lee But in 1983, under Joe Altobelli, the Orioles won the Series, and three of the Yankees they got in that trade were key players: Rick Dempsey, Tippy Martinez, and Scott McGregor. So both teams benefitted.

I side with the Yankees on this matter. Alexander clearly wasn't right when he started his rehab in Columbus. He injured himself doing something he had no business doing, so trying to pitch better vs. AAA hitters in another game was the least he could do.

Kevin. brown. did. the. same thing with the 2004. yankees. but. it was. his. non pitching Hand

Before I comment we need some context it is a Friday and I am eating lunch at my computer. Just kidding nice video. I wonder how Billy Martin would have handled this if he had been the Yankee manager then. May have ended up in a fight?

@humanbeing2420

2 күн бұрын

It would be good for JG to realize that he can just provide context without an extended announcement that he is going to provide context. One day it may happen.

You think punching the wall is bad? How about this one pitcher in the 80s who missed two starts because while going #2 and reaching inside the TP dispenser, a screw or something inside cut open one of his fingers on his pitching hand!

You could do a dumb decision video on the Cubs Dodgers game tonight. The Cubs were up 1-0 in the bottom of the 9th and the Dodgers had second and third and genius David Ross decides to play the infield in

The 1980s Yankees had a lot of Drama and not good Drama Ed Whitson Fight with Billy Martin 1985 the Pine Tar Game Billy Martin also in a altercation in a Texas Bar and a Dave Winfield Book

I thought he was a pretty good solid pitcher , if it weren't for that waste of time 1981 strike season he could of definitely got 200 victories for his career, but instead had to settle for 194 wins .... also want to mention that Doyle Alexander had 98 complete games with 18 shutouts during his 18 year career in which he established a not so bad era of 3.76 including a total of 1,500 k's .... he also helped the Yankees win the pennant in 1976 with a fine 10-5 record and yet again 11 years later he helped the Detroit Tigers win the eastern division with a stellar 9-0 record , a magnificent 1.56 era with 3 completed game shutouts in 11 starts 😳 , and though he pitched for eight different teams , he had 10 or more wins for 7 of them , plus he was a 17 game winner three times, probably would of been four times but the1981 strike season ruined his chances ✌️

Doyle Alexander was one of the biggest bums to ever pitch the yankees, and going back the yankees got that bum for Rick Dempsey Scott mcgregor Tippy martinez A disastrous trade in 1976

@Salvatore1268

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 i always wonder what history is like for the yankees and if this trade isn’t made. He was a veteran presence on the dodgers in 88

@CTubeMan

Жыл бұрын

I believe Ken Holtzman also went to the Yankees in that trade.

@Salvatore1268

Жыл бұрын

@@CTubeMan he did

@joea7565

Жыл бұрын

Along with Alexander, I believe the Yankees got Ken Holtzman, Elrod Hendricks and Grant Jackson. What a bad trade for the Yanks

@Salvatore1268

Жыл бұрын

@@joea7565 one of the worst

#AYearAfterTheTumultuous1981WorldSeriesInAnEarlierVideoFromThisChannelsHistory!

Perry well might be the last 300 game winner, but who cares about pitching wins anymore?

He was one pitcher i didnt want the yankees to go out & get i knew he would be a problem for the yankees instead of a plus 1982 was just not a good season for the yankees and he was not the solution he was bombed everytime he pitched one of the worst player the yankees ever had