Elieko is better because that cylindrical bar just looks way more comfortable and being able to rack it makes it 100x more versatile and useful

Man I love coop haha never stop what you’re doing bud

@portastsic

3 жыл бұрын

Especially now that he’s clearly on Tren -as per his aggression

@powertreadssupremacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@portastsic ???????????

They’re both great and I can’t afford either. Nice

@SirSketchable

3 жыл бұрын

We'll just have to get satisfaction out of knowing they exist

@riffdex

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like my ex wife

@chaosdisciple3052

3 жыл бұрын

Bells of Steel has one for just under $300

@cryptomando

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaosdisciple3052 nice, great price but the name lol

@chaosdisciple3052

3 жыл бұрын

@@cryptomando lol- Yeah. Not a great choice.

The Eleiko is better balanced , is rackable and can be used for more exercises - it is the clear winner against the Kabuki.

The Cap trap bar I bought 5 years ago and stored at a commercial gym (because they didn’t have a trap bar) for 3 of those years is still just as nice as the day I bought it. I’ve been waiting for it to snap, never has. Bought it for $100-150.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

3 жыл бұрын

This is not a discussion of entry level cap bar

@Miles_Teg

3 жыл бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Agreed. Just giving all the people who can’t afford these an option.

@bobdole7292

2 жыл бұрын

Because the only time any of the bars are going to be better than any other is when you start lifting a shit ton of weight. For 95% of people a lower end trap bar/ barbell is just fine because they’re not putting 5, 6, 700+ pounds on it

Had fun with it; I like your style. Keep the videos up my Good Man you are one of a kind and original 🔥

I believe you were looking for the phrase “mandrel bent” when referring to the Eleiko. This same type of pipe bending is used in automotive exhaust systems.

Coop - could you do a review on the Prime Trap Bar? Heard some great things about it as well!

I been mulling over these two bars for a year now. Finally, a complete side by side review of them. I’ll go with the Eleiko, final answer!

@P3ak930

2 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about your decision today!? You still have it?

@hitleractually8180

7 ай бұрын

I ended up buying both! lol

I was just down at Kabuki in Portland last week. Fantastic people and a great experience, made in the USA by people that make you want to do business with them.

The videos just get better every single time!

Looking swole Coop, I can't wait for that ultimate trap bar comparison video

thanks to your channel I have focused more on my grip strength so I don't have to be as much of a p**sy and worry about knurling or even care if there's knurling or what kind of knurling in fact I've been tempted to file off almost all my knurling at this point

Kabuki Trap Bar owner here. I like the meaner look of this bar. I like the narrow grip option as I bought this moreso for lower body work. I like the high handles option rather than putting the eleiko on small blocks to raise the bottom position. Kabuki is rackable with an extra set of collars- just can’t do cambered style movements. Fat grips with knurling that is so choice. I sold my old fat grip bar when this came in. American made too! I do wish the jacks (feet?) had bigger surface area though- when putting plates on and the bar is standing on the jacks then that second it’s being lowered to get into lifting position I hear some crunching in my plywood lifting platform. I’m only loading it to high 300’s (lbs) so I’d imagine 500+ might leave some marks.

For the review of all open trap bars Will you buy the prime fitness One? Coop: this is the way

Another nice review. Thanks! Iron Sport Gym in Glen Olden, PA has a Eleiko Öppen Trap Bar. I used it for over a year. It's a great bar, but the handles seem slightly too wide and uncomfortable. When the pandemic hit, I bought a Kabuki Trap Bar and am very glad that I chose the Kabuki. I fell that it is a better quality bar with greater versatility than the Eleiko bar is. I disagree with the balance issue; I find the Kabuki better than the Eleiko.

Again, just such high content and production quality. Companies must be throwing products at you, just to get airtime. Namaste x

Im in IL and I have never in my life noticed we say OP-Pen LOL. I say it exactly like you. I didn’t even think it was wrong until you mentioned it!!

they use a mandrel bender like exhaust manufacturers, they put something inside the steel tube to prevent the bar from collapsing during the bend.

Yay. Can't Afford but I love coop.

@martinrios-ayala6152

3 жыл бұрын

RIP in chat

@higherlifts420

3 жыл бұрын

Put $100 away a month and you can in 7 months lol.

@chaosdisciple3052

3 жыл бұрын

Bells of Steel has one for just under $300

@higherlifts420

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaosdisciple3052 I would buy the vulcan ox before BOS. Already got the kabuki myself tho

@chaosdisciple3052

3 жыл бұрын

@@higherlifts420 that's also a nice one. I prefer the classic handle & knurl on the BoS, personally.

The eleiko won't ruin the way your gym looks. Or living room, for that matter.

Looking at the welds of both bars, the Kabuki has superior welds as the welder has taken the time to weld correctly and with skill i.e. "stacked dimes" finish. The welds on the Eileko looks like it was made in China by an apprentice/inexperienced/lazy welder. i.e. blobs instead of stacked dimes. No way is the build quality of the Eileko even close to that of the Kabuki. And I am not an American just in case anyone thinks that I have a chauvinistic bias on this.

Just ordered the Eleiko Oppen bar... for incredible 935€ (1047$US)😭incl. shipping to Germany. can't wait for it to arrive. Gonna be amazing! thanks for the great review!!

I've had my open trap bar for at least 15 years. Power Systems, is the brand. Basic, not self-jacking, but it does the job.

Balance and versatility makes Eleiko better.

Coop. Duffin has made a post about the kabuki being rackable, it’s worth checking why they dont say it

@randomOAS7

3 жыл бұрын

instagram.com/p/CPWhLvrgpcj/ Just what I figured you could do with some extra collars.

Coop, the issue with balance on the Kabuki bar is something I've noticed and generally come to dislike about the bar. It absolutely makes the lift far more difficult when you start getting heavy loads on there. I've pulled 800 on the rogue bar before, and I know I would get nowhere close to that on the Kabuki. I find myself constantly fighting bar "swing", which then of course shifts a lot of that pressure onto my lower back. It's a good bar, but I think it still needs to be dramatically improved. Also... I was really disappointed when I missed out on the 25 kg v1 and they made the HD 30 kg... stop making bars that aren't 20 kg or 25 kg... us calibrated people hate it!!

@wilsonsun4895

3 жыл бұрын

Try to get the legs copied by a local cnc shop. If you add 2 more legs on each side, it does balance the bar. I just added 2 more legs each side and changed the length of the bolts to a 2.25 hex bolt. Fixed the balance issue with the Kabuki Bar. This is something Kabuki could of fixed themselves but maybe it was done so intentional to avoid the legal issues of being too similar to the Eleiko Oppen bar.

Good review Coop. Just a suggestion add attainability as another review point. I looked at these a few months ago and both had long lead times if I remember correctly. That factors into people’s purchase decisions. Keep up the good work!

Great review as always Coop ! being up north, selection is pretty limited. I went with the Gorila Fitness free turtle bar which is open ended and very rugged. It is quite heavy at around 85 pounds and my only complaint is the absence of knurling on the handles. Perhaps you could review it !

I got mine from Bells of Steel and paid under $300 USD. Sleeves are a little short, but it's working great so far.

Coop, the 1” handles are actually 25.4mm which, as an owner of the Kabuki Trap Bar HD, I have found to be way too small for males with even average to smaller sized hands. When I go heavy with the 1” handles it’s a giant pain. If they were 28mm (or even 27mm like a DL bar) that’d be much better. Just wanted to call that out since you said they were 28mm in the video. Great video though!

Your help is more than awsome

that intro is freaking siiiickkkk!!!!!!

Nice timing, kabuki trap bar got delivered to me less than an hour ago, got a cosmetic blemish one for a discount

I would love to see a review on the Prime Fitness Trap bar. Open design as well and the adjustable handles. Similar price point as well.

Just FYI: Trap bars are named after its shape, a trapezoid, not the body part. They're often called "hex bars" for the same reason :)

@williamharding1319

3 жыл бұрын

For a while I thought it was because they look like a huge bear trap! lol

@ristretto24

3 жыл бұрын

FYI the trapezius is named that way due to its shape. Minds are blown.

@williamharding1319

3 жыл бұрын

@@ristretto24 I thought the muscle was named after the bar!

@ErikBlekeberg

3 жыл бұрын

Actually they are named after the muscle and the shape of the muscle. Al Gerard had the original trademark for the trap bar. Because the initial bar was actually a diamond shape not trapezoid. Because he held the patent on the initial design that was the diamond shape they decided to add some angles and it became a hexagon and then because the name was already taken they had to call it hex bars.

@ristretto24

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamharding1319 Yeah, buddy!

According to a recently filed patent lawsuit eiliko is saying an open-ended trap bar with a self-supporting built-in Jack is their invention and Kabuki is inappropriately using their IP by selling theirs. They have requested monetary damages and destruction of all Kabuki strength open-ended trap bars...

@theowaf8822

3 жыл бұрын

Then I must buy one from Kabuki!

@AIC95

3 жыл бұрын

@@theowaf8822 don’t support kabuki, they’re just money hungry… bought some recovery tools under the guise that I would receive extra instructional material and they made it into a subscription you have to pay instead. False advertising for an extra $10-15 a month

@theowaf8822

3 жыл бұрын

@@AIC95 3 of my best bars are Kabuki… I’ll give them credit as they have deserved it

Love the approachability 😆😆😆

I think intek trap bar deserves honorable mention. Open. Rackable. Modular. Built in jack. Roll pad for squats. Would be interested on your take.

@chrislarsen5133

2 жыл бұрын

I have both of these bars and the intek . My intek does not have built in Jack’s if it did it would be my favorite

@rasslinjd73

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrislarsen5133 My intek bar has an optional built in jack -- there should be a spot for one and if you contact customer support they may let you buy the jack piece separate?

Coop, can you try the Prime Fitness Trap Bar?

Love the Eleiko!

seeing that dad sweatshirt in the video is all i need in my life at this point

Coop the best so far is the Vulcan Open trap bar. Check it out . Also is 68lbs and rackable.

As a welder and fabricator the Kabuki wins on build quality by far

The Elieko trap bar just went on pre-sale again today and I just paid $799 TOTAL. No shipping cost. I know, It's still a ton of money but what the hell. This is my Xmas present to myself and a legacy gift to my son. I spent hours pouring over videos and images of Kabuki and Elieko trap bars and finally pulled the trigger on Elieko. Kabuki, you guys still rock...I own your Transformer, Kadillac and Shoulderok bars and they're freakin awesome!!! Best powerlifting tools ever.

The Kabuki welds look a lot cleaner and stronger; might not ever matter unless you're Brian Shaw but just something to consider.

hey man, I thing you should do a video explaining all different types of bearings and which would be selected for which application!

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly unless you are a competitive weightlifter and can feel the difference of bearings a bushing bar is just fine.

Gotta see a review on the Intek and Vulcan open trap bars please and thank you!

I just bought the Vulcan Open Hex Bar/ Ox Bar. It'd be nice to see how it compares to these.

would love to see a comparison/review of the Bells of steel new industrial rackable open trap bar

Coop which power rack is the most versatile, rep, sorinex, rogue, etc..

Can you do the Vulcan open hex bar next!? Looks like they combined the best parts of both of these!

Hey Coop, from Garage gym reviews. Can you review the Domyos Rack 900?

Now you need to compare the less expensive Vulcan Ox bar. It’s a blend of both of these bars so to see a review on it would be awesome

Coop living in the perfect world 😎

Real talk - why have you (or the other major reviewers) never done the Prime Fitness Trap Bar? Also open, cool adjustable feature, changeable handles, and similar price point. Plus, made in USA. It's a weird blindspot.

The Eleiko is a great bar but it doesn't like to be dropped when loaded up. Broke off at the weld. A buddy tig welded it back on and its been fine since. Surprised how thin the tubing was when it was apart!

Can I use the Rouge ISO arms to attach my gym rings to my power rack???

Legendary reviews.

I can’t afford either of those and never tried them. But I’d disagree about the point about the balance. I think the point you should have made was that both handles on the kabuki bar are elevated from the centerline so when you’re actually lifting the weight doesn’t go out of balance. The Eleiko has handles right down the center so the weights going to tip forward or backwards unless you’re set up dead center on the handles. Here’s what I mean. When I max out on my cheap normal cap trap bar using the in line handles the bar tips forward or backwards. No problems at all using the raised handles though. The weight is lower than the handles so it just hangs there. That’s Chris duffins whole “playground physics” thing. Like with the kadillac bar.

@P3ak930

3 жыл бұрын

That’s Chris duffins mad scientist mind. An amazing feature very few give credit too. 👏🏻

@Tony-pb2gi

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@chrisingram7836

3 жыл бұрын

Theres also Force USA walkthrough trap bar retails for $400 right. Similar design to the Kabuki a little less quality.

@brandonhoover2120

3 жыл бұрын

Duffin is a genius. The difference in my Rogue Swiss bar and the kabuki Swiss bar is absolutely mind blowing. Dude just nails the little details most don’t talk about. Most reviewers throw some shit together based on what stats are on a piece of paper, and nothing to do with the use of it.

@jongyoon7337

3 жыл бұрын

I've used both, and this is not true. Eleiko wins in balance when using it 100%. Kabuki low handle just has balance issues when using. High handle does not.

Coop out here destroying lawsuits in a KZread video.

God dam it Coop! I want that Eleko bar.

What about the Vulcan Open Hex "Ox" Bar?...

@senseforsale

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. The long sleeves are great for bumper plates, nice built-in platform for easily loading weights, and great price point. I also own one and can vouch for it. The knurling is a little aggressive for my taste and I wish the fat grips could be easily adjusted in and out, but that's about the only negative I can think of.

Do a budget open trap bar review next. Bells of Steel, etc.

I have the BLK Box Open Hex bar, and it’s the best of both these bars… for less than half the price. Same bar as the Vulcan Ox Bar etc, and another unfortunate case of the cheap Chinese knockoff becoming better than the originals - a la the Titan SSB

@gokuryu

3 жыл бұрын

Does it balance like the eiliko?

@DaveSchneider7

3 жыл бұрын

@@gokuryu I’ve heard the Eleiko can be squirrelly at high weights, like a football or Swiss bar. The BLK Box bar’s handles are both above the center of gravity, so it feels extremely stable at any weight. Edit: or were you asking about the jack stands? Yes, it has those

@neiloppa2620

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have the version 1 of the bar or the version 2?

@BarbellThor

2 жыл бұрын

Well, much if not most of Titan is still made overseas, but they're not a "Chinese knockoff." They're an American company.

Just wondering if you've got the Titan Hex Bar or their endless rope on your list to review in future videos.

Eleiko all the way. 💪🏽

Love this Chanel!! as a poor MS Boy, it's like watching vids on European Sports Cars, but for the Gym! :D :D Keep it up, Coop! I'll keep Dreaming as well!! \,,/

Where can I get a standard 1inch trap bar I'm not paying for new plates

Intenks modular trap bar should def be in there as a contender

Decided to go for the Prime Fitness Trap with both KAZ and RO-T8 handles. Going to see how it goes.

@curtislaketek2822

Жыл бұрын

How did it go?

gotta love it

Amazing intro 😆

When the prize was mention I instantly gave up on getting the eleiko lol but I really wanted it dang

Coop please do the prime open trap bar

What about these compared to the bells of steel open trap bar?

BOTH!!!!

Would you use the playmates while using the kabuki trap bar?

After getting to try both (I own the eleiko, and borrowed a friends kabuki trapbar) the eleiko wins for me….the biggest factor is the balance in hand. When I would touch the floor the kabuki always wanted to tilt to the closed side….not so with the eleiko…it feels balanced whether the weight is on or off the floor.

Me waiting for the TM to hit on the "lets get ready to rumble".

Would be nice to know how the prime bar compares

The kabuki feet leave indentations (waffling) in my platform which is maple plywood, that’s annoying.

@Garage Gym Review your Kabuki link doesnt work. Are these still being sold.

I haven’t seen all of it yet but it seems like you can squat the eleiko like a camber bar

Shout out to my fellow Trap Bar Deadlift only club👍

I got the ForceUSA open trap bar...meh? I think my biggest complaint is the placement of the handles? And that the handles spin... no me gusta...I guess you could get some lock washers or something to keep em from spinning but still...

Can you please review the Prime Fitness Trap bar (:

I've played with the Eleiko at a local gym and it is such a nice bar. The weight feels awesome as you're lifting, great balance, props itself up and down with little effort. It's a clear coated powder coat and I would be blown away if you could scratch it, amazing finish on it, I'm surprised the warranty isn't for longer.

@dooglasii753

3 жыл бұрын

Warranty is an interesting thing. Eleiko is probably going on the theory that if it doesn't break in the warranty period, its definitely not a manufacturing defect. Also with lifetime warranties, a lot of the time you end up paying for a warranty.

Remember this, the best one, the ultimate trap bar you’ll ever buy, it’s gonna be the one that I’m creating, regards from México 🇲🇽

Thoughts about the Les Mills smart band??

The welds on the American are perfect i wonder if they're man or machine welded

Can we get your thoughts on the Bells of Steel open trap bar? It’s a lot more affordable and similar in design to these.

@ChristianStJulian

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on how heavy you want to lift. The BoS bar is much thinner and less robust than either of these. It has shorter weight sleeves and also a lower weight capacity. Probably ok for beginners but you could outgrown it depending on your goals.

All knurl marks are not equal. Balance and rackable are huge benefits of the oppen. my go to for overhead presses.

Just received the oppen. Sold the kabuki to purchase this one. Can 100% say the eleiko is simplicity combined with beauty engineering and effectiveness. Absolutely prefer the eleiko over the trap bar hd. They are black now. I assume the clear coating on the older style was an issue at some point, not too sure. But it’s An amazing bar. Rackable is def useful for neutral grip shoukder press.

Prime didn’t make the cut? Or budget like Force USA?

For those prices ,they can SHOVE it.

Review on the Rogue Donkey please. =)

Coop, you with the mic in hand should be the thumbnail, best intro EVER, thanks!! American made Kabuki breaks the tie.

Elieko rackability could be considered as a feature. I've used other trap bars with swappable handles and have had issues with the handle spin slightly is that an issue with the kabuki?

@markhalstead2386

2 жыл бұрын

The Kabuki handle can be installed as fixed or spinning.

The Eleiko is better because it's rackable and the cylindrical bar shape makes it comfortable to do cambered squats with which is a major selling point!