I know this is just a testing video but i just wannawt you know that you helped me with every single drone problem i have aver had and im so glad that your channel exists and that you do what you do , thank you so much

everyone in fpv be having a sick ass house and shit

Lovely episode, Joshua. Thank you!

I noticed the change. Awesome seeing you fly those gates.

Just put this on my mobula 6 such a massive difference having so much fun with it now 👍

Notification squad 👊👊 Now that I've watched, I'm convinced. Putting emuflight on my mobula now. Thanks jb

Fancy flying there Josh very informative thank you

Thankyou Sooo much for this video, I was so frustrated with my mobula 6 not performing well, I changed from beta flight to emu flight and snap it’s so much fun to fly now.

Thanx JB, did all that and now it flies like a rocket. At first i thought it was a 2s whoop😳

Dude... like I could totally notice how your flying got smoother and faster in this video and you started flying and pushing it harder. Glad you are liking it and glad that Kevin was willing to try some crazy ideas to push Angle flying further

@Quick-Flash

4 жыл бұрын

emu FTW

@bradcurtis9560

4 жыл бұрын

Quick question, is the link for the download broke on the facebook group?

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

@@bradcurtis9560 yeah, all links to the dev hexes are gone now as .30 official release is coming. Be on the lookout for a new PMB for it, and it will also be a preset!

@M.TTT.

4 жыл бұрын

@@ProjectMockingbird hey, is there a video explaining the presets for the mob6 using Emu? I haven't looked yet, but just got my mob6 today. Thank you.

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

@@M.TTT. my website and FB group have a new .3.0 tube that works great with the Mob6

Thanks for another lesson Joshua!

PLEASE NOTE: The video shows flashing Emu 2.0 RC1 via the Emuflight configurator. That is the incorrect version for use with Project Mockingbird. Please download the dev version linked in the Facebook page. In the video I say that the Mob6 and Meteor65 crash well. Then later I complain about how when they crash they stick to the wall or ceiling on Betaflight, and they don't do that on Emuflight. What I mean is, compared to a brushed Whoop, they crash well, in that they have so much torque that when they hit something they can instantly correct and often keep flying. But then sometimes Betaflight air mode flips out and the motors rev up and they stick to the wall or ceiling until you disarm. Upon re-watching the video a few times, it's clear that I'm crashing more on Emu, and I'm overshooting corners more too. My personal take on this is that the Emu tune feels so much better that it's encouraging me to try to go faster, and then I'm getting less precise. In addition, the PMB default rates were a little different than the ones I was using on BF. I think that with more practice, or with a more skilled pilot, the Emu tune would definitely be faster around a track, and it was no-question more exciting to fly. But some pilots are going to be faster on the Betaflight tune (or a slightly de-tuned version of the Emu/PMB tune) because they'll be more in control.

@KnizzleHizzle

4 жыл бұрын

Curious to see how emuflight would do without the tune for a more FW to FW comparison :-)

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

@@KnizzleHizzle Funny. The last time I tested Emu and flew it on defaults for exactly this reason, some people criticized me for not flying it "at its best". Just goes to show.

@KnizzleHizzle

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bardwell oh, sorry, didn't mean to critize, I found it quite informative. But as I don't have a BNF whoop so I was curious what emuflight brings to the table ;-)

@ianrmurphy

4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious why you consider the rates part of the tune? For me rates are distinct - a good tune gets the best out of the rates I like to fly and I would always put my rates onto a quad before evaluating how I feel it flies.

@hoonam814

4 жыл бұрын

I want to see you do 3d mode with the mobula 6

nice i had already ordered a 25k version and then saw ur vid saying it would be a battery killer glad i saw this before changing my order

"There's just no question it's better. It's really something!" Joshua Bardwell

I'd recommend playing with throttle curves rather than a limit, that way you can tame your low & mid stick throttle, but keeping full power available for when you're about to plow into the bottom of a gate :)

For amazing indoor footage see Nick Burns. Very hypnotic viewing. He witters all the way through every video. Very entertaining.

I was not expecting those pants.

That scene with your doggies was funny. I can’t help but let my doggies distract me too, and yes sometimes they stink too lol. Looks like I might have to do a modification of my mobula 6 to get more flight time, I got the 25000 kv version, love it, so does my friend who flies 5 inch, he loves to fly inside at times and he’s now thinking about getting one himself.

WOW, my Mobula 7 just goes full throttle freaking out when I hit something TOO ! The fact that yours does that too makes me feel so much better. Also, my Mobula saw you flying your Mobula. Now it doesn't me flying it or touching it. It says I make it feel icky......... Z

@Clif_Brown

4 жыл бұрын

Disable air mode and that should stop the full throttle freak outs when it hits something.

@fpvnube4908

4 жыл бұрын

@@Clif_Brown Thank you for your help, I thought I did that by turning on angle mode and turning off horizon mode. Is there something else in betaflight that I am missing ? Fyi, it's me Zaineman

Great vid. You mention you liked how it flew with PMB and Emu, but have you done it on your 19000kv version? Does this change your recommendation toward the 25000kv model?

see i cant wait to have a transmitter witha scrren on like yours lol ill be flying even higher and further then for sure....im almost to the point of doing so already oh and better get upgraded goggles to lol....i am ripping and ramping everything in our yard its so awesome and i am so seriuos and glad to have your help in getting to the right spot in my life finally

Love project mockingbird!!!!!

Nice kilter, nice flying, I'm gonna move from bf to ef now gotta see wht all the hype is about

Great Video- Thanks

The last few models I have gotten from HappyModel have been surprisingly good flyers and honestly the tune out of the box to me is excellent in comparison I thought the out of the box tune on the Meteor65 was terrible I had to spend some time fidgeting with it until it was decent “for me” and I still prefer the untouched Mob6

I could watch an entire video of you just petting your dogs :)

The C.I.A. mockingbird is a pretty interesting read as well.

Cool that my Mob is in parts atm, it sucked the battery empty immediately (I guess a short somewhere...?). Definately gonna try that out asap.

Nice ORQA’s!

The dress strikes back!!!

I really liked it to on my mobula 6 as well

Honest DVR. Fun!

Nice desk punching bag 👊 lol

I’d love to see how the 25000kv and 19000kv editions perform outdoors. Maybe a comparison vid between the two with some freestyle???🤔

Josh, did you disable airmode in BF? My mobula recovers just as well once I turn that off. I believe Patrick has it turned off in his emuflight config

In the video you grabbed an earlier version of EmuFlight, rather than Patrick's link to the newer 0.2.15 beta binary. I'd recommend using his binary, as it may have additional features and tweaks that aren't present in the one you grabbed. I made the same mistake the first time I did this.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Oh hell. I thought the RC was newer! Well, in a week it won't matter anyway so the video will be correct eventually.

I came back again to see the doggies!

nice dogs pal

I've just updated Mobula7 2s It's flyes much better now

@joshua the meteor65 gets another full minute with the 48hz esc fix. At least in my case with the betarpv batteries.

On mobula 6 with 25000kv motors i saw big differnce with jesc 96khz. A plus 30 seconds from jesc 48khz (setup with emuflight and PMB settings). At 3:30 flight time i take out the battery at 3,7v resting voltage and at 4:00 flight time, resting voltage is 3,5-3,6v.

I lost it when you were like "... but you gotta shut the hell up!"

Can you make another video with the 19kv and give your finale Thoughts on battery handling... in my expérience i flew it with 450mah and 550 with a throttle curv to get an easy hoovering and it stay really fun to fly ... and flew sooo long! i suppose that suit Better to the low kv due to more torque... perhaps i say BS if someone knows tell me.

emuflight flyes very good without any mods in stock .. you just need to setup pids .

I love my Mob 6 hd and been watching this, your jesc vid and another,,, so what do I do first? Jesc esc update or put emu flight on it? I hate updating, still fly an old mrm225 on whatever betaflight they had four years ago

Naisu

So... do you still recommend the 19k version to "fun fliers", or the higher version?

I just received my Mobula 6 yesterday. I am trying to follow your steps to get emuflight running. And I stumble when I try to past the diff. CLI hangs/freezes when it is trying to build the autocomplete cache… I used the links from your Video and installed the crazybee F4 Fr Hex-File. Everything else in the configurator works fine… tried the 32 and the 64-Bit version of Emuflight With the same results.Freeze Right after I opened the CLI Tab. Any suggestions would be great!

Will you put emuflight on the meteor65 with the mob6 tune? I was talking to Patrick and he said that it will work on the meteor65 as well. Other people on the Facebook page have tried it too.

JB, you rockin a shirt here?!

Hi Joshua. Did you have crash recovery turned on in BF/emuflight? it does wonders.

Dude, you flew best with the stock tune.

@mdo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he seemed to have the best flow and precision with stock tune and throttle limit.

Could I suggest a video that would seem to be in your wheelhouse? There are folks breaking Mobula6 boards trying to solder ufl connectors on to use dipoles or CP antennas. From my experience, the stock wire antenna seems to outperform even the best CP antennas on the market. Would love to see a comparison to save people the hassle and possible damage to their FC for the sake of worse video performance!🦾🤓

@scootroter4859

4 жыл бұрын

The first thing I learned after buying my first HappyModel product with the Crazybee FC, is to NOT FUC% with anything on that ULTRA FRAGILE board! If it works out of the box, DON'T TOUCH IT! Trying to solder or add anything and you are just looking for trouble, and having to buy a new FC! LEAVE IT ALONE!

JB. Are the Orqa you new choice of everyday flying goggles 🔥🔥💪👽🤘

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

I use Orqa, HDO, and DJI depending on my mood. They are all excellent.

@highdrone69fpvakamasterroshi

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bardwell if you had to choose one out of the 3 which one will be 🙈

Hi JB, I notice you are using batteries without cables (not sure on the correct way to discribe); does this work OK? I have the opportunity to get some cheap GNB 300mah 1s without cables but was concerned they would stick out too far or move the COG. Any advise from anyone? Thanks in advance..

Hey Joshua, giving Emuflight a go. I'm setting up Emuflight LUA script and the pids.lua file has the same name as the Betaflight file hence it isn't working for me. Have you run in to this error and did you find a solution to it? If not is there somewhere I can go for support with this sort of problem?

Hi Joshua, is it compatible with the Flysky FS-i6X radio 🤔 Thx for answer

Hi Joshua, can you help me with betaflight, please? When I connect the quad, main screen works (I can move with the quad and see it) but after I click on some command, the whole betaflight freezes and I have to shut it down. I can't literally do anything including getting into CLI. I've tried to update firmware but that didn't help. Do you have any solution please? Have a good day :)

I am having trouble with my Mobula6. I updated the firmware, added project mockingbird settings, flew it and now it isn't seen on the USB at all. all my other quads connect and it is receiving power from the USB, but that is all. This was with Betaflight and about 3 weeks ago.

It seems that EmuFlight doesn't support LBT, as a result cannot bind my QX7s my mobula6.

So, what about the flight times after flashing to EmuFlight & PM? What kind of flight times do you get with the 19000kv and better batteries?

@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench

4 жыл бұрын

19 minutes on a 2s lithium ion :-0 including a stripped down GoPro!!!

Great Video, but am I missing something? I can't find the links for project mockingbird, the t16 throttle video or EMUflight.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how but the video description seems to have been reset. I've fixed it now. Sorry about that.

Great video as usual! Very informative! Obviously you are a man of taste (you have a beagle)! I have to ask, is that a skirt?

@MoMadNU

4 жыл бұрын

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@heliharris69

4 жыл бұрын

I go commando all the time.. so i can see where he's at... with wearing something comfortable and lose.... Man's a frigging legend with all things Quad... So.. For me he can post video's stark naked if he likes.. as I'm sure his wealth of knowledge and expertise has helped thousands enjoy this hobby to the best of our ability.

@PropDusting

4 жыл бұрын

@@MoMadNU thank you! Let 'em swing! Lol! I was curious, thanks for the link!

@PropDusting

4 жыл бұрын

@@heliharris69 I am not sure if I want to see him naked but, he is great with quads! I started watching him when he helped another guy that I follow Ken Heron. He is definitely above my level and I am learning alot from him!

@heliharris69

4 жыл бұрын

@@PropDusting Yes at my age it's hard to get a grasp of the technical side of things and my flying will never be great... But i enjoy it none the less and need help more often than i chose to admit... That's why I'm thankful to him and a few others that share there knowledge and know how on here... Long may they do so.

I tried the PMB emu flight tune for mobula6 and really didn't like it. The quad just felt way looser, particularly on yaw, which felt positively mushy compared to Betaflight. Mind you neither emu flight or Betaflight 4.1 on the mobula6 flew as nicely as my UR65 with 0802 19kv motors, JESC 48khz and a very slightly tweaked 4.1 F3 performance edition PMB tune. For me the combination of razor sharp handling with slightly more momentum is better for my style of flying. Which is not to say that the PMB/Emuflight team aren't awesome, just interesting that I seem to have a different experience to most of the other people who have tried this particular tune.

Hi JB, is it possible to fly acro-trainer with emuflight + mocking project ?

Hey hope someone can help me out - my first drone is the Mobula6 and I'm unsure about when I should be landing and ending the flight. The OSD says "low battery" after about 40 seconds of flying and then it says "Land Now" with the voltage at 3.3V after just 1 minute of flying. Are there some settings I should change? this is after having done the firmware change to JESC 48khz which is supposed to increase flight time. These are brand new GNB 300MAH batteries so I'm not sure what the problem is. Should i just keep flying down to 3V or will that damage the batteries badly? Cheers

you need to have that ceiling fan turned on with only one gate on it.. should be fun

What was capacity of the battery? on the recording is shows you are consuming over 1000 mAh? thx

Hey Joshua, can you post a link for those pants, or at least what they are called?

FIRST! (always wanted to do that).

Caddx vista for mobula possible? U play guitar for ur dogs!

Newbie question: Would reflashing a Mob6 HD to Emuflight and JESC make any sense at all? I understand, that the Mob6 HD is not a good choice for racing, but would JESC flashing also increase flight time for the HD and would the emuflight tune also improve the "handling"?

@mdo

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Afaik they're basically the same quad just a different camera system.

@kristof007

2 жыл бұрын

JESC or Bluejay or any other ESC firmware with 48khz or 96khz PWM frequency will increase your flight time on the Mob6 HD.

I found with betaflight disabling air mode and putting it on the same switch as the modes switch (so air mode is disabled in angle mode but on in acro for outdoor stuff - I have a mob7) virtually stopped the sticking to the wall syndrome whenever you hit anything. I keep meaning to try this EMU/PMB but the Mob7 just flies so well and I have limited flying time, but I will one day...

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Disabling air mode does fix it. But then you have to set up idle up to keep the motors spinning at zero throttle.

@jibbajabba4597

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bardwell given how badly I fly, having the motors spinning at zero throttle isn't the best idea lol

Help please anyone!.. Can I swap the roll with the yaw on a transmitter? That's how I learned on 4 channel helicopters, and I was able to swap them for my Mavic Air. Thanks

Can you send a new link to the facebook group and specifically mobula 6 setup

why do dogs love eating quadcopter or any rc when my dogs get out i am worried about having low battery 🔋 i usually land on my shed roof or car because my mastif took a bite out of my lipo thank god he was okay i grab him before the next chomp .....been wanting a indoor micro but same issues with my dogs...yes when i buy this i will use you’re affiliate links

@IveGotWood1000

4 жыл бұрын

I have same issue i have to put up a child gate on my stairs in order to fly

In acro, I get a strange auto pitch up as if I were in angle mode, any suggestions on a fix?

@PadiwanFPV

4 жыл бұрын

I tried adjusting the I pitch value in the pids and turning off the accelerometer and no luck.

I’m new to the hobby and just learning to fly a tiny whoop, was learning about lipo care and was wondering what you usually run your 1s batteries to? Is it okay to run it passed 3.5V? Thanks

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

As long as you stay over about 3.0 or 3.1 volts, they won't take damage. The reason I usually stop at 3.5v is because below that, the battery can't deliver as much power. With bigger quads, when you get below about 3.5, they sag the minute you hit the throttle and you can't fly very aggressively. With micros though, they don't pull as much current, and the battery is so small that you get short flight times if you stop at 3.5. Also, they have more sag to begin with, so they hi 3.5 volts earlier. So bottom line, I run 1S whoop batteries down to 3.1 or so. They don't last long, but that's just the way it is.

@alexbrensing

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bardwell thanks man!

Also what's the difference between betaflight and emuflight for these micros. Like what's the filtering diff and pid diff and the actual math in the software. If it's just a different feature set that could be enabled in betaflight is prefer that. Uav tech already showed there was nothing different in emuflight vs betaflight when. It first came out. Is that true still?

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

JL FPV Emuflight added new code for Angle mode specifically. It’s got a new way it handles Angle PID’s over the old Betaflight way, new code that handles crashing and wall sucking (it has a “high and low” PID setting based on stick deflection), expo in angle mode, and feed forward in angle mode. It also has a new way (well, it’s the Silverware way) of calculating yaw. It does it around the gravity vector and it is less likely to i-term windup overflow...it does have it’s own downsides, but overall better.

set the amp value to 1175-1179 to get the correct mah draw.

Okay...so I know I am super late on this video, but just wondering if anyone out there can help me. I recently got a mobula 6 and went to put emuflight and JESC on it. everything seemed to go smoothly, but after setting everything up after arming once throttle up it goes into a spin of death. The motors appear to be spinning in the proper directions, and I didn't physically move anything around, not really sure where to start trouble shooting....thanks ahead for any help

Can we use the firmware for Meteor 65 as well ?

Will the firmware for the esc work for flight One

I fly acro will the tune still work? I just can't do stability anymore. It just feels wrong.

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

JL FPV yeah, it’s still a solid PID tune as all of my tunes start out in Acro, but if you are wanting to do Whoop racing, Angle mode has been proven superior and even Vanny, NURK, JET, GAB, Phluxy, and NUB (and little old me) all fly whoops in Angle for racing.

I get just over 3 mins on the JESC 48khz / Betaflight setup (from your last video) on my Mobula6, what flight time did you get on the Mockingbird setup? I may have missed it, but the last flight was just over 2 mins. Are you getting 3 mins still with Mockingbird?

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Flight time between EMU and BF was not noticeably different, but I wasn't really doing controlled tests either.

@myklobe

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell Perfect, thank you! Going to flash it now to test. Just having the ability to recover better from touching a wall is enough for me to want to try it!

So did you get more than 3 minutes flight time after flashing JESC and Emuflight?

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

JESC did extend the flight time a little bit, but not a huge amount. I didn't fly repeatably enough to be able to say more than that.

after tring emuflight my mobula6 cpu working 100%... and it happens after adjustment modes, from 50% too 100%. while in betaflight from the start cpu working only 15-20% cpu

Would you be making a video on the newbeedrone brushless

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Probably coming out next week.

Key to no freak on hitting stuff is turning off Airmode (in any firmware).

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

True but then the quad has no authority at low throttle.

@uavtech

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell yep that is the difference. In Airmode, you don't need 0 throttle authority. That and a lower I-term or lower I-term limits as when you hit a wall, I-term starts to wind up as Angle Mode tries to correct.

@Quick-Flash

4 жыл бұрын

@@uavtech emu does have it's own ways of dealing with that. And as you can see it crashes well.

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, turning off airmode definitely helps but Emuflight has extra things to keep that windup from happening and recover more quickly.

@uavtech

4 жыл бұрын

@@Quick-Flash , oh yeah? Please elaborate on what that is.

Sucks its not available anywhere for a few more months... by that time winter will be over and we will all be back outside on our normal quads.

@pippifpv

4 жыл бұрын

It really sucks.. And further delayed by Chinese new year and then Corona.. How ever, me missing a mobula 6 is nothing compared to China in danger of Corona spreading with the wind. Still sucks though

It looks flying better before the esc ans emiflight flash 🤔

JB What goggles are you using in this video?

@l3d3ni

4 жыл бұрын

Orqa FPV One

I enabled rpm filter / bidirectional dshot on this drone. Makes a huge difference. I haven’t tried mocking bird yet. But that’s next.

🔥🧀Love from Kush🧀🔥

@WrongWayFPV

4 жыл бұрын

Wassup bro👊👊🧀🧀

@MCsCreations

4 жыл бұрын

🖖😊

The Facebook Page for emuflight is down... any way someone can send me it? I buildet a New one and didnt saved the config:(

My main issue with my Mob6 is that the accelerometer seems to lose Calibration in the slightest crash. I need to land, disarm, sometimes reboot for it to calibrate then take off again

@ProjectMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Renwick have you tried Emuflight? They have new code that helps in that respect. It’s probably not your acc, it’s gyro overflow causing it to freak out

@jordan1991r

4 жыл бұрын

Project Mockingbird I did try your tune on it a month or so ago, will maybe try again. It’s a case of crashing then if you just give it some throttle instead of hovering in place it will be hugely off

Is EMU keeping up with elrs? (Specifically spi-based elrs receivers)

@JoshuaBardwell

Жыл бұрын

Emu doesn't support spi-based receivers at this time.

@xmonstar420x

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for saving me hours of head/heartache! xD

that's one steady voltage meter. or do my batteries suck...

Annnnnd now I’m buying a Mobula 6😂😂😂😐😅

where is the video to flash the esc so you get 50 % more flight time... Tried looking it up can't find it as quick.

@ElevatedVisionz

4 жыл бұрын

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