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00:00:00 - Carnivorious goats!!!
00:01:31 - TINY WHOOPS!!!
00:03:05 - HDZero finally made a proper digital cinewhoop!
00:04:33 - Motors, props, FC
00:07:16 - HDZero nano video transmitter and camera
00:07:56 - How does it fly?
00:13:00 - Range test
00:15:47 - The real strength of HDZero
Пікірлер: 289
"I'm Joshua Bardwell and you're gonna HERD something today."
@2strokeme64
Жыл бұрын
you misspelled NERD
@cityproofdad
11 ай бұрын
you mean passion??
"People criticize me for having a messy patio, but it's really just a race course" 😂😂😂. That's it. The best excuse. Now I have to get into drone racing. 😂😂😂
Thank you Mr. Bardwell, As your name suggests you are a wonderful storyteller, You also have taught me a whole lot in the process.
i live in a farm and we have our goats just running around the house like in this video. and just when im wondering about digital tinywhoops, i bump into this video. Thanks again Joshua
This whoop gets a 4/10 in goat herding capabilities
@richardamiss7000
Жыл бұрын
Operator error to be fair. Loveyoumeanit JB
Thank you for all the great tips Joshua God bless you
I love this HDZero board on my 2S 3.5" toothpick as well. I fly with Crosshair Xtreme antennas on my Scout HD, positioning myself at a corner of my flying area to cover the whole area with the beam, and the antennas have enough range and penetration to give me a perfectly clean image even a couple hundreds of yards away and behind some trees. In direct line of sight there are no breakup sparks even half a kilometer out (the furthest I can fly legally here). HDZero is not as good as DJI with an equal setup, but with some good directional antennas you can make it look and perform really nice.
Goddamn the “intro” aka. Half the video was so entertaining 😂 you’re the best Joshua.
I really love this whoop. Combined with Hdzero and Elrs it’s pure perfection!
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
Except when you want to upgrade that ELRS SPI receiver and can't do it! I'll not be investing in any ELRS with SPI receivers, for sure. Seems like a dead end. Same idea with HDZero - Great if you want to fly circles around the picnic tables, but as soon as you try to fly around a solid object, FORGIT 'BOUT IT! 🥴 I fly around my big house with all sorts of thick trees, all the time, with no distortion or fuzz, snow, or vertical rainbow black out....ERRRR....color out! lol Not even being able to fly around your own house because it looses picture is super limiting and a total bummer. Range is ZiLcH! SPI on the ELRS, and terrible penetration on the HDZero, two big bummers that keep me away from both!!! This is a start, but not the answer. 🤷 😫
@gmivisualsjason3729
Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yes, I can’t disagree with that. For my use it is perfect. Brilliant to have plenty of options now.
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 i took mine around my house today.... not even a bit of break up..... i was pretty impressed to be honest.... i wasnt expecting the preformance that i got from it.... it is slugish in the current config...... but i have a few sets of 25000kv motors that need a good home... lol
Awesome flying and review, Joshua! 😃 Pretty amazing little quad! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 BTW, devils are a great animal... But they do bite you! 😂
Thanks for the review!
Awesome review. I hope Walksnail will make a 1S digital lite board like the HDZero
The Mobula's are my favorite micros right now. The M6HDZL is surprisingly good. Was only getting 1 min of flight time on GNB 380's. Went to EMAX 450's and am getting much longer flight times even with the extra weight. Fly outdoors mostly and don't do a lot of stunts which is probably why I don't notice the extra weight too much. Plenty of pep for the way I fly.
@the_robo_hobo
Жыл бұрын
How do you mount those to the frame? I’m trying to do it on my build but can’t seem to find a way that’s secure.
I put one these boards in my Tinyhawk FS II. Amaaaaazing!
The goat thing was quite unique and fun. Nice work dude. EDIT: Your flying is excellent.
I love it. I’ve gone with tri blades and JESC and it’s even better.
Wow, great review. 👍
Nice video - and very interesting to see this review! Please continue looking at 1 and 2S quads with digital video! Digital VTX for 1 and 2S quads is what I am looking for and I guess many others. Love my Mobula6, UZ80 (modified ESC software, propellers and camera, solid 7 minutes flightime) and Crux3 for low-noise flying in the garden and parks: but they are analog and from my digital VTX in my 4" and 5" I got spoiled. The 2" prop´s on the 4S GEPRC Rocket Lite are just too noisy for flights in the garden or parks and all other small quads with 4S are basically same: too noisy.
You rarely add the links to videos mentioned... Thank you this is one of my favorite channels
If you are willing to go to 75mm, Dax was able to put a naked vista on the mobula 7 and it still flies amazingly well.
Good thoughts. I prefer this mobula6 with 25000kV and triblades. Reduced my flight time down to 2:30, but it is way more peppy
@avgvstvs96
Жыл бұрын
u need better batteries! if you're already using nitro nectars or tattus then you might have a bad pigtail, 2:30 is terrible, i get 3:30-3:45 on the green mobula on triblades with good batteries and a solid pin ph2.0, and that was a heavyy quad, needed tri blades.
@beeradfpv
Жыл бұрын
i'm hoping they make one of these with this setup.
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
Put 48khz and Emuflight on it and get far better flight times with no disadvantages! :)
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
@@avgvstvs96 that isnt horrible for the weight of this whoop.... 25000kv motors are hard on batteries.... i get around 3 mins from factory settings on this whoop now.... i would give up 30 seconds for it to feel more like my mob6 race
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
ive been thinking hard about doing this myself....
I don’t typically comment on videos, but the goat stuff was actually hilarious
Tell you what mr.Bardwell, if your so upset with the old tiny whoops I'd gladly take them off your hands 😅🤣
Thx, great video again! 😀
I got one of these and have been really enjoying it. I had forgotten how much fun 1s 65mm was and have been having a blast. HDZero for the win on this!
You have such cute B-roll :D
I just got my hdzero 65mm. Can't wait for a few hours of free time to set up a little track and rip this thing.
Never say never JB. I still remember that video where you said there's no way we will ever have HD... This thing looks awesome great and very funny review
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
I didn't say that though.
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell i think it was more along the lines of it would be almost impossible.... lol
I trimmed just a little of the heat shrink off in order to get my nbd lipo to fit in. Seems all the models have this short lead. But with a little trim it fits perfectly. Until I need to swap power lead
Literally... chasing the goat!!!!
This video was great. especially the goats (which, as I'm sure you know, will eat pretty much anything -- including your quad). I have a Mobula6 standard and would like to get into the HD stuff, but I'm wondering what goggles to use with that. Especially since I'm thinking of getting an Avata as my next quad.
YaHOOOOOOOOOOO. Broad street hear we come! Mikey
Hi, Joshua, good video, as always, thanks! Pls, advise, if HDZero goggles match this drone. What else shall I buy with it? Some patch or antenna? (I already have Commando8 and DJI Goggles).
Looks nice 👍
I’ve got further than 52 secs into this vid yet but Bardwell plus little goat has made me happy..
That was the most sentual" I'm Joshua Bardwell, and you're gonna learn something today" ever :)
it looks way better than analoge a far cry from the tiny hawk I started with I recently view some of my old analogue videos and am so glad I'm an hd pilot now
Best thing I did with mine was to put it in a 75mm frame with 450mah battery. More than doubled flight times
What goggles are you using? I’m starting from scratch. So I have TOO many possibilities. So many options out there it’s kinda daunting on what to actually purchase
JB herding his goats with a whoop... oh yeah!
I'll order two (i like having a backup) when an equivalent comes out with a non-spi based ELRS rx. Ideally that comes out when the new HDZero goggles come out.
@junkheadrc7397
Жыл бұрын
Hey the hd zero module and hd zero digital cameras, will all this be compatible with the Goggles when they come out?
@gadgetmerc
Жыл бұрын
@@junkheadrc7397 yup, they'll all be compatible
I Heard that Walksnail Digital system Is about to make a 1s version too. So I am Just waiting for this to happen and than I Will probably go for It. Eventhough I finally started flying freestyle with 3inch quad I still love tinywhoops. It would be grat having the same quality for both worlds
@anthonyfpvminiquad1728
Жыл бұрын
They need both a 1s vtx 4g or under and they need a camera 1.7g or lighter to make it work.
Very Impresived
Thanks Joshua, I fly exclusively micros.
Great Mr JB .. i have only Question .. i want to know what kind of Fpv Googles use for HD video like that or like some other fpv drone with HD video ? Can i use ordinary fpv googles like eachine ev800d or vr009 googles for that kind of HD video?
goats r fantastic 😍
Buying one on RDQ. And then KZread recommends my dudes video from 2 weeks ago sick !!
I've taken a 1y break from FPV and all the related content. It's good to see Joshua is even weirder than when I left
Great video Joshua! Quick question, Pretty new to FPV. I have the Tinyhawk 2. Can I put the HDzero set up in it and maybe the Tinyhawk 2 freestyle?
@KaizerTest
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't bother putting HDzero on the TH2 or Freestyle. Not saying it can't be done but because the Flight controller shape is proprietary to that quad it will be hard to stack the HDzero on top. Also the video transmitter is hard soldered and bolted to the Flight controller. It can be taken off and replaced but the HDzero stacking issue may be a challenge. You could drill holes and fit it to the underside of the top plate but not worth the trouble in my opinion.
@CopperStateAerialPhotography
Жыл бұрын
@@KaizerTest Thank you for your input. As I said I'm a noob. Had no idea how much work it would be to swap. I thought maybe it would be just unsoldering a few wires and re-soldering the new system in I.E. plug n play system. Thanks😁👍🏽
I wonder if adding a dipole antenna would be worth the weight / improve your range?
Mr. Bardwell, The Academy has your nomination ready.
What if you were able to cut a DJI cadaxx vista and re wire it and dodder it. Maybe a try and order a custom one?
Hey buddy love the vids even though I don't own a one. Hey can you do a vid on shutting down vtx power so if my drone gets stuck up a tree I don't burn anything out
@MrAlucardDante
Жыл бұрын
In the vtx tab in betaflight configurator, you can set low power disarm to ON and it will go back to 25mw once you disarm. Be aware that if you crash far away, you will lose video until you get very close. You can also set the vtx to pit mode with an aux channel if you want
muy buenaa tio joshua !
I love you J.B.
I just built a whoop with the same 0802s, and it gets 50% longer flight times on the biblades than the Mob6 ELRS with 0702 26000kv. I was expecting it to be terrible.
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've done 0702's and they seemed very under powered. Wasn't impressed. Now, maybe for ultra light whoops hovering in the 15-ish grams region, they might be fine, but otherwise, 0802's are the way to go.
@avgvstvs96
Жыл бұрын
yeah the green mobula 6 is genuinely bad. far too heavy and underpowered, those motors were supposed to be for the mobeetle, 5g lighter than the mob6
@jupiterboltt7540
Жыл бұрын
What Kv 0802?
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
@@jupiterboltt7540 I think 19K KV is the usual favorite.
@ccurrivan
Жыл бұрын
@@jupiterboltt7540 19000
Hey Joshua, thanks for your videos.. I almost see them all. Hahahhaa... I want to buy a new Tiny Whoop that I can flight FPV with my DJI Googles v2 and tba tango 2 .. Which one do you recommend me?
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
There aren't any true tiny whoops with DJI because the vTX weighs too much. The closest is the iFlight alpha a85. Or maybe they make an a75 version.
Dang i got to say if fatsnail comes out with a Modular Bay that you could use the avitar system on other style goggals then hands down the new hdzero goggals are looking like a good solid option. The hdzero goggals would be the first true all in one headset hmmmm
we'll been hearing the sound of music as an intro soon especially the Goat herder track.
amazing video, Joshua. I have a question: on 5:30 you say it's standard all in one flight controller with 5A. Is this *5A per motor* or for the whole board? If for motor, how can it work on 5*4=20A if ph2 connector specs says it can't get more than 5A? thanks
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
5A per motor. It's a max rating the motors don't pull that continuously. And PH sags voltage a lot when excess amps are pulled, which is why it's not a great connector.
Fcking love so much the JB actings🤣🤣😭😭😭🙌🏻
Maybe they used bi-blades to keep the on paper weight low.
Alright, that was a cute into. Totes mah'goats!
Now we're getting there! This is what I've been waiting for.
It appears this quad has a linear VTX antenna? You should have used a linear omni and a linear patch on the VRX? I have the older analog Mob6 ELRS and video is great with the linear patch I have :)
Bad things can happen when Goats, Reflections and Cars come together 🤣. .
GOAT !
New drone job: Herding. Like it Bardwell.
that's brilliant acting :D
🔥🔥🔥
What is the range trough concrete? I live in a concrete house so this is quite important to me.
Great video! What remote and goggles did you use with this quad? Newby really looking into just getting started with tiny Whoops. I live in Minnesota so a lot of winter months. I appreciate all the knowledge that you share!
@MukiFPV
Жыл бұрын
Most common remote is radio matter t xxx 16s and for goggles if you're new you could wait since hd zero is expecting to release their own goggles in October. Right now I'm using fatshark hdo with the hdz video transmitter
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
@@MukiFPV Plus, DJI V3 in Sept. Bad time to buy right now! :(
@csg2000
Жыл бұрын
If whoops are going to be your main focus I would get a radio with expressLRS. Seems like almost all of the whoop flight controllers are pivoting to expressLRS, which is great because frsky spi receivers blow. A radio with a 4in1 and an expressLRS module is the slightly spendy but 100% coverage option.
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
@@csg2000 I use Crossfire, and don't see the benefit of ELRS, for weight savings. I just weighed the smallest Crossfire receiver with the little wire "T" antenna (no Immortal T plastic holder) and some wire to solder it up with very short leads. It weighs a total of 1.2 grams! Not enough weight savings to make it worthwhile switching from Crossfire.
@csg2000
Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 yeah I'm also a crossfire loyalist as well, but if I was starting fresh and looking at mostly whoops it's hard to beat the ELRS options right now.
As a noob getting into FPV and getting all my gear together I'm looking at DJI HD goggles, so I'd have to pass on this. Would be real nice if it was compatible, or DJI brought out a 1S HD vTX that would fit on a 65mm whoop. That would make a great 1st training drone, before upsizing to a 5" fully fledged freestyle drone
@RandoManFPV
8 ай бұрын
I never flew before and jumped right into a 5inch it really is no problem just prsctice on sims first
Is that a MOON GOAT!!?? Can we get team of black sheep for the next episode??
Only thing I dislike is the canopy.
Goat Chasing is the new review standard for all things FPV. I have spoken.
HI, I made a mistake earlier on beatflight and updated my fc board. I didnt realize that I do not have my connector for my shark byte to the vtx on the whoop now it will not bind any ideas??
Liftoff needs to add goats following lol
intro 10/10 lmao
Woulda liked to have seen a line-of-sight no obstruction range test.
@richardamiss7000
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
Analog video range on my whoop definitely has better range than the example shown here for hdzero. Does it look better than HDzero? No, but my meteor 65 definitely has less breakup at further range. I feel i can fly out further with it
@TheohoSignal
Жыл бұрын
That was also my experience. The HDZero video range in this video seems rather poor and I'm almost certain the analog version of this quad outperforms it in terms of range.
@KOrnhOliO1
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
I'll stick with my moby6 with FRSKY receiver for now.
Good review, I tried to buy but couldn’t find out which battery I needed fo the radio & drone. So I have lost all interest in trying drones out.
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
I mean if you want answers to what product to buy you can just email me jb@joshuabardwell.com. Or you can check out my web site which is specifically intended to help people in your position: www.fpvknowitall.com/fpv-shopping-list-tiny-whoop/ But frankly, this is going to be the least of your difficulties if you do get into drones and FPV, so if you are giving up this early, maybe best you don't get started.
@kensmith6236
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell I guess I am spoiled with great customer service such as Motion RC & other fixed wing aircraft vendors. I was very surprised that none of the people you recommended hadn’t a customer service for questions. I did get my need info, very basic as to what were the connectors on the drone, through RCGroups. I did follow you recommendations as to the radio, so you got a little commission. Compared to some of my larger models these aren’t complicated at all. Thanks for taking the time to replay, I will watch more of your videos. They are very good.
I’m really new I have mobula 6 could you link me to everything I need like what controller and bits and bobs
Laughed my butt off!!! Just knew it,,, goat herder! LOL Question. Is Carl going to send you a set of goggles for testing?
Love goats... and yes they eat just about anything. Have a friend who uses animal crackers as treats for them.
HDZero 1S whoop VTX 200mW - 4.5g Naked Avatar HD VTX 1200mW - 7g With upcoming 1S Avatar VTX, I can not justify buying HDZero system.
I like how they're afraid of the drone like it's some kind of ginormous wasp.
That would teach them for trying to eat the Tiniwhoop.
Living the goaot life
Got me with the goats, lost me with the tiny whoops 🤣
@Fly_High_FPV
Жыл бұрын
Lol, i watched the whole thing anyway, i love you joshua, thanks for everything you do 🙌
where do you keep the soda?
What radio and googles are you using?
I came for the goat
hy Joshua that tiny whoop , record in hd and run analog , right
That's not a messy patio, that's a used patio. Not a show piece 😂. Love your videos btw
Will the tiny whoop be confined to indoors and frias when remote ID is finalized? Or will there be an exception to the rule?
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
SUAS under 250g don't need RemoteID except when flown for commercial purposes.
@Rang62455
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell I'm glad you clarified this because I haven't seen on the FAA web site where it states this. I guess if you are flying for a gov agency (fire dept) you could get a waiver.
Where’s the links to the batteries that are the same as the new bee drone nectars? Did I over look it?
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
Oh crap. I'm sorry yeah I spaced it. I'll get it added but not until tonight.
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
Ok they're added.
@MadManFPV
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
Curried goat for dinner then, Mr Bardwell? 😅
So is there a bundle with the HD googles, drone, and transmitter?
@numberjuanfpv
Жыл бұрын
If you put together in a bundle with what he is flying with it will be something like 200 tiny whoop+250vrx+200radio+500goggles+50 tx + batteries.
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
@@numberjuanfpv im into my set up for 600 including ( used but works great) tango 2 with elrs module.... shark byte vtx.... fatshark hdos ( that included rapidfire).... nbd nitro nectars and tinywhoop lipos and tiny whoop hdzero ( new).... ther is always a deal to be had with used gear....
@numberjuanfpv
Жыл бұрын
@@toxicfpv304 I have not bought used but yes, getting used should save good amount. I have all the equipment, but just yesterday my wife reminded me how much do I spend in drone stuff😅
@numberjuanfpv
Жыл бұрын
@@toxicfpv304 I have tango 2 elrs. Tx16s. Sky04x with sharkbyte. This tiny whoop is already sold out in getfpv. I ordered yesterday the 1s vtx through affiliate link. I'll make a 1s hd meteor75.
@toxicfpv304
Жыл бұрын
@@numberjuanfpv check over at fpv exchange. Zenakis had a bunch of them new in box he ordered from hdzero.