I'm 3 years into a 2001 Vulcan 750. Bought it with 4,800 miles on it. It now has over 20,000 miles. $2,200. Best money I ever spent.

@thomasduane6863

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a spanking new Sportster for $1863 OTD.

@papatorr3669

Жыл бұрын

Thomas, great choice. I have an 01 VN750 as well, with 7,800 miles. It's comfortable, pulls hard, handles well, gets good gas mileage, is reliable, etc. It's a bike I like to hop on for an errand, or a quick ride.

Now this is something that the broke people like me were waiting for!

@jjbing3

4 жыл бұрын

K Boodhun You are not alone!!!!

@mastergogoy6166

4 жыл бұрын

you aint alone bro. haha

@mountainbikerdave

4 жыл бұрын

Cheap ass myself 😂🤣😂

@patrickdecambra2219

4 жыл бұрын

I am cheap my FJR 1300 only cost me twenty-five hundred bucks. You just have to look for them they're out there.

@manilamartin1001

4 жыл бұрын

Everybody is now broke ass. Great show.

I cannot believe they didn't mention the Suzuki VStrom 650/1000. The first gen in very good condition would be within their budget, too. The bike is bullet-proof, fun to ride, has plenty power, good on gas and can fit to any riding style. It is also less buzzier than a KLR650 since it is a V-Twin.

@jimnotbob

Жыл бұрын

They never mention the V Strom, the KLR wouldn't be in the same league as a commuter or tourer.

@adampennington8954

Жыл бұрын

I've owned both a DR650 and a VStrom 650. The VStrom is MUCH more comfortable. If you are just commuting and very light exploring, that would be the way I go.

@AlexDenton0451

Жыл бұрын

Its not really available under 3K anymore it seems.

Qualifications 1:34 Commuting 4:15 Track day 16:45 Touring 28:36

@ddy8739

4 жыл бұрын

Ty wish u put all the bike to but beggers can't be choosers😂👍

@GrantWood.

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@dadalotamus3512

4 жыл бұрын

Fart 26:47

@joandodds7626

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@GarlicPizzaCrust

3 жыл бұрын

thank you lol

Zack!!! Cant wait for the content you and Ari are going to put out!

@tigercs1

4 жыл бұрын

Zack Courts, for all your Gold Wing drifting needs. Braaaap!

@chrisredfield3240

4 жыл бұрын

Revzilla just got 1000x bet now we have Zack.

@yukinarija8204

4 жыл бұрын

I did not start to watch the guys on MTOD :) Happy I dont need to start. Or do I? ;)

@boomer8393

3 жыл бұрын

Zack Courts Where's the video of the Mexico City adventure..?

I think we need an MC commute with Zack on a Zuma

@bamdacoco8453

4 жыл бұрын

They've done it already on the "on two wheels" segment with Ari. He rides the Zuma 50cc along with Ari's Ruckus

Kawi Versys 650! In July '17, post divorce and 50 years old, I flew from NJ to Vegas, got a ride up to St. George, Utah to buy (all pre-arranged) a beautiful, PRISTINE '09 Versys with 9,600 miles on it for $3,000!!! Then took 22 days to ride it 7,218 miles thru UT, NV, CA, OR, WA, ID, MT, WY, SD, MN, WI, MI, OH, PA, and home to NJ! Camped (OFTEN backcountry/BLM) 17 nights + a few cheap AirBnB's. TRIP OF A LIFETIME!!! And I still have, ride, and love this Versys!!!!! (Seller LOVED my Fly-n-Ride idea, and the balls to do it, so, as a gift he installed a brand new front tire for me. After tightening a few times, I had to get a new chain installed in ID. Other than that, PERFECT, FUN, SAFE, COMFORTABLE adventure!!!). GREAT BIKE! DO A FLY-N-RIDE!!!!!

Obviously Lemmy was needed for this episode to defend our cruisers lol 😂

@isaaceberly5939

4 жыл бұрын

FRFR you can get alot of variety in cruisers for under 3k

@usmcvet0313

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed! 😄

@Fred82muchPi

4 жыл бұрын

We scored an R-titled 2000 Ninja 250R (the ex-F model) for $600. It had 5,000 miles on it. I commuted in it, it was my son's commuter in college, and it's ridden all of US-17. With the full Yoshi exhaust, it sounds like a beast. I agree totally, it's just fun to ride. I'll keep it forever.

@c_wonder

4 жыл бұрын

got a 2014 Vulcan 900 with 2200 miles for $700

@marshmallowblaster

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah as a Kawasaki Vulcan S owner Zack was mercilessly roasting my bike. First he went after metric cruisers then he was dissing parallel twins.

Wow having Zack on here improves the format drastically! So cool that Zack and Ari have come over to RevZilla.

@mstoker5821

4 жыл бұрын

@Zack Courts thanks for the reply! On Two Wheels with you and Ari is some of the best motorcycle content on KZread. Your review of the Street Triple 765 had a huge impact on my decision to buy one.

@mr.b3168

4 жыл бұрын

@Zack Courts Cruiser hater

@robertp457

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.b3168 He doesn't hate cruisers.

@robertp457

4 жыл бұрын

@Zack Courts So happy you and Ari are back. Love your content. Its so good to see you with the Revzilla guys to me it seems like a perfect fit.

“Mid displacement sport bike maybe” Zack: I kinda like the Zuma

Hear more from the guys (and the rest of the RevZilla crew) with daily moto musings on Common Tread: www.revzilla.com/common-tread?.com&HSLS_S2_E9&LDl9GKNpOI

Haha, I had a Honda Shadow, I left the key in the ignition and turned on (not running) down town (not a great area)went had lunch, came back the bike was still there just dead. Spurge isn't wrong haha

@UncleDon226

4 жыл бұрын

My first and second bikes I never took the key out of them. Plopped the keys in when I bought them and sold 'em without taking the keys out I live in a small town though. Even my new bike I leave the key in it when I'm at work lol

@Yutter89

4 жыл бұрын

My dad sold his to a friend (think it was a 500) but for some reason he could just not figure out the emergency tank. Think we ended up bringing him gas like 5 times over a year haha

@usernamemykel

4 ай бұрын

HATED my heavy, sluggish Shadow. I'll never buy a bike without a gasoline gauge again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@RickR69

2 ай бұрын

​@@usernamemykelThe "go fuel up some time in the next 30 miles" light really is too complicated for some people. The bike wasn't sluggish it's you.

@usernamemykel

2 ай бұрын

@@RickR69 Light never turned on. Compared to my Kawasaki Ninja 400 and even my Honda Grom, the Shadow was unresponsive, dead weight. I could practically ride the Kawi just giving it telepathic controls - it was that responsive and agile.

Joe's nicknames this episode: Joe the Ripper Average Joe Zito Old Dirty Joe

@dadalotamus3512

4 жыл бұрын

26:48

Fabulous to see Zack and Ari are back!

@lemotorbiker6226

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more! Getting not just your own content, but Ari and Zack, too! Was great to see you in person at the eXCel in London a few years back. Can't wait for all this COVID environment to blow over and revert to normal. Have you found that it has changed your way of vlogging?

@kombo731

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And high praise indeed. In moto videos, TMF, Zack and Ari are top of the heap.

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@lemotorbiker6226 Nice to meet you too! Lockdown stopped me riding at all for two months but other than that, not really no....

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@kombo731 You're too kind to put me in Zack and Ari's company"!!

This high side low side is my garage. My Commuter: gy6 150 $300 or 2017 hawk 250 $600 + about $100 in parts (jets sprockets chain uni and cat delete) My Track Day: 89 Kawasaki EX500. Got it for free when I bought a bike trailer. Put $1000 in it now she rips My Touring Bike: 1999 XR 650 paid $1000. New tubes, tires, and basic maintenance 6800 miles last year . 4000 or so on highway. So a whole stable for $3000 + maintenance.

You guys mentioned the SV650, but I was surprised you didn't talk about the V-Strom

@fullthrottle2stroke

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@johndoward3275

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would have tossed the Wee strom in there as well!

@danielpliszka8220

4 жыл бұрын

Really low ground clearance

@Dreadmantisthe2nd

4 жыл бұрын

hard to find

@FoXracing5185

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dreadmantisthe2nd Bought my Vstrom 1000 for $1800 with 30,000mi, bone stock and well-maintained. Sub $3k Vstroms pop up all the time.

This is the first pod cast I have listened to ever and it was brilliant!! I will definitely tune in for future episodes. Great work guys!!😁👍🏾

I headed over to the states from Australia , spent $2500 on a VMAX 1200. Was awesome. Did 6000 miles in 5 weeks and rode the west coast 😀 I did put new tyres on. I left the bike with a friend in Phoenix and it's still going

@jimstenlund6017

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great story, so much better than renting, and it’s a awesome bike !

I just purchased a 2014 Yamaha xt250 for just about 3,000. I'm 5'3 and a beginner rider and I feel very comfortable with the seat height. Great video!

@gogogeedus

3 жыл бұрын

the older xt's and dt's always had low seat heights, not sure about the newer ones, I had a DR250 back in the 80's it was as boring as hell, just a lame bike,didn't excite at all so I sold it and bought a ts250 2 sroke it was a good work horse and a bit of fun, I never liked 4 strokes, the 80's 4 strokes were really lame,and the ones that had power were to heavy and would bottom out.

@ws8080

Жыл бұрын

@@gogogeedus Correct - the XT250 has the lowest seat in the class, unless you count the TW200 (which I don't cuz I think of it as a ranch bike). I almost bought one.... might do it in a year as I still want a dualsport....

You all missed the best option. 2 versions of the Suzuki V-Strom. Talk about tried and tested as well as bullet-proof.

Loved this topic guys. Way to speak to a larger audience with smaller wallets! I think you guys gave some great options for all the categories. I’ve got the “poor mans Ducati” myself and enjoy doing track days with it. Had my 2006 sv650 for 5 years now and think I’ll probably never sell it.

@Cleffa168

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts as well. I see so many reviews on flashy new bikes that I won't be able to afford anyway and then I also get shamed for riding scooters as if Asia is not a thing people in Asia commute with scooters all the time. At least here in this video my scooter is recognized and not shamed for, thank you!

@ColeenBownes

4 жыл бұрын

I have the 2007 sv1000 and wouldn't sell her either! 👍🏻

Triumph Speed Triples come to mind. Absolutely loved mine (1998). Lacking wind protection (mostly fixable), but a real performer in the twisties and great, great motor. Cheers

I own a kLR650 and agree100%. Too bad they stopped making them. Although, an updated KLR650 with fuel injection and ABS would be a killer bike.

@TommyAngelo1337

4 жыл бұрын

There will be, kind of. They will replace the KLR with a Versys with spoked wheels.

@DolfVeenvliet

4 жыл бұрын

@@TommyAngelo1337 That'd be a nice bike too... maybe the KLR crowd needs to look more towards enfield now.

@chrisredfield3240

4 жыл бұрын

In the UK we had a really stripped back klr 650 . More like the dr650. Small tank, minimal headlight. In 1998 we had the klx650 and the klr650 both available. Klr was about £4k klx was £5.5k I think. (More power lighter better suspension)

@MrRandomnoodle

4 жыл бұрын

Don't need ABS on a KLR, the brakes aren't powerful enough to lock up in the first place

@chrisredfield3240

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrRandomnoodle probably right. I had a really crap tyre on the front of a xr125l it would lock up so easy even in the dry. Got a new tyre and it stopped on a dime. That tyre was lethal!

I am so pumped that Zach and Ari are on Revzilla now. I've been getting my motorcycle fix from them while they were on the Motorcycle Magazine KZread channel, and now have to come the superior Revzilla. Thanks for bringing them on!

Loved my '98 VFR800. Regret having to sell it at the time, and wish I had it back. Bang for buck, they're stellar, and the motor is a gem.

Paid 2800. for my ‘07 KLX 250... 13000 miles, and several mods (and repairs) later, it’s still going strong, and ripping WNC gravel... 👍

I mean, I feel cheated that in sub-$3000 touring category, nobody talked about a 90's, or an early 2000's Goldwing... They are plentiful, cheap, and super capable... I can't really argue with the choices you made, but the 'Oldwing definitely deserves an honorable mention... I did really enjoy the show, as usual... Keep up the good work gentleman.

@assikopp123

4 жыл бұрын

Or 80's Goldwing! Totally not biased ;)

@HiroNguy

4 жыл бұрын

Also, that's a category of bike that's less likely to have been molested and thrashed.

@hermanpanzerwerferhorkheim9853

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody wants those big-ass, old-ass, car-sized, dinosaur, grandpa motorcycles.

@pedlpower

4 жыл бұрын

@@hermanpanzerwerferhorkheim9853 Not true.

@coolhandchunk

4 жыл бұрын

An old wing...especially a GL1000 or GL1100...is a fantastic bike. They can be stripped down if you want to...they can be loaded up with toys if you want to. Lots of aftermarket and used parts to be had. Relatively easy to work on (except the carbs). And, they rip.

I spent $1100 on an 04 Ninja 250. It was in spectacular condition and had 17,000 miles on it. Three years and 18,000 miles later, I'm finally upgrading. Can't recommend them enough!

Hey guys love this. I have a Honda Silverwing 600. Picked it up for $1700. Like you said great dry storage, great wind protection, and the 600 really really moves! I run it on the interstate at 80 all day long and its very comfortable 2 up. (Big comfy seat!) I also picked up a Suzuki Vstrom 1000 for $2800. Another great bike for the value!

I am a simple person, I see Zack, I press like!

@hermanpanzerwerferhorkheim9853

4 жыл бұрын

So, you have a thing for Zack eh?

@michalrybinski3233

4 жыл бұрын

@@hermanpanzerwerferhorkheim9853 yup

Wow, this video is an absolute gem! 🌟 The content is not only informative but also presented in such an engaging and entertaining way. The visuals are top-notch, keeping me hooked from start to finish. Keep up the fantastic work! 👏👏"

In the dual sport/commuter category you can't forget the TW200! I have one for my wife but it is the perfect the perfect in town commuter and it's actually pretty fun on the trails if you keep your speed under control. I love playing around on it. I bought our 06 for $1800 3 yrs ago and its been a blast.

Touring: Suzuki Bandit 600/650 series, OR Suzuki V-Strom track day: YZF600R or the fairing version of Suzuki's GS500 Commuter: GS500, Ninja 500

@glennmcc64

4 жыл бұрын

My GS500F was a killer commuter. I did ride 1400kms each way on it from Adelaide to Sydney, it did pretty well. At Sydney I rode it around Eastern Creek (ex MotoGP track)for advanced rider training, it didn't enjoy that so much.

@BassOutcast

4 ай бұрын

The GS has a tendency to burn oil at higher revs. Not a bad commuter, had one for 60K myself, but I wouldn't use it as a track bike.

Paid $1,650- for my present bike, a sweet 93 Nighthawk 750- Prior to that I purchased an R65 which broke down within 50 miles... The prior owner took it back, an absolute gentleman, thanks!! In 2000 I bought another 750 Nighthawk a 92 for a $1,000- And these are the only bikes I would buy...I live in NYC!!

Loved the show guys!!

Always enjoy your videos guys !

Yamaha tw200 , suzuki sv650 , yamaha fz6 (actually own that one), honda valkyrie , honda vfr

@2littletime2sleep

4 жыл бұрын

I bought a 06 fz6 with 6000 miles for $1800. I love that bike. Probably my favorite bike I've ever owned

@Powertoolz

4 жыл бұрын

Vfr are hard to find sub 3k in my area. Older triumphs tripple are nice

@davidb9323

4 жыл бұрын

I saw a Honda 250L for sale last year, seemed like a nice ride. I think a Ninja 500 would be a good pick for commuter, Sunday rides. I really enjoyed mine as my first bike sporty but upright. Also good for passengers. I hear they are even used on the track.

@battlecattx

4 жыл бұрын

@LastRaven The FZ6 was made with ABS on some models but they might be hard to find outside of Europe.

Excellent point about scooters being a good introduction to the two-wheeled world. I've had motorcycles since 1983, but I couldn't get my wife on one until I rented a scooter, in Grand Cayman, during a cruise stop a few years ago. We got on it and rode around town, then just picked a direction and rode. She had such a blast she agreed to ride on my motorcycle when we got home. I had a Yamaha 1700 Road Star Silverado at the time, but I 100% agree a scooter is a legit thing.

That is awesome. I had an identical 1970 Yamaha R5 two stroke torque induction giant killer! Best 350 ever built. Thanks for the great content! Stay healthy!

I’m 3 yrs late but the shout out to a sprint shed a tear in my eye. Long live the true sport tourer.

being a terribly broke college kid i specialize in sub 2k bikes that took a couple years to save i live in houston and bikes are cheap and very good condition first bike i bought -used 2016 ninja 300 abs mint condition for $2000 under 5k miles my options were - used 2018 honda grom for $2000-2500 under 2k miles -used 02-06 honda shadow’s $1500-2000 -any 250-450 dirt bike sub 2k mint condition my current forever bike is a -03-04 kawasaki zx6r 636 $2000 under 14k miles legal point being come to houston with 3k and you can get speed triples any 600 cheap 1000’s any cruiser any dirt bike 3k in houston will get you anything you want a busa or even a new gold wing

@big-boned477

4 жыл бұрын

there's absolutely 0 where i live lol

@rapidicus6487

4 жыл бұрын

I live in Houston too and I am seeing tons of r3 for right around the 3k mark

Sport touring: Fz6 Fazer with extended windshield. Unless you're really tall.

@jjbing3

4 жыл бұрын

Dimitar Yanev I have one of those. I might have to get a taller windshield. My damn full face is always covered with bug guts!

@jameslamon6947

4 жыл бұрын

I would also second a Gen 1 Yamaha FZ1 as an excellent Sport Tourer for $3000 or slightly under. Plus theres a 100,000 mile club for them, bulletproof!

@muffin4600

4 жыл бұрын

@@jameslamon6947 oh yeah, gen 1 fz1 is a great bike. I got mine for $700, but that was from a salvage auction so not really typical and it needed some work. But you can absolutely get one in fair shape for sub $3000, and won't regret it. One rider is up over 280,000 miles!

@odawg2661

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a mk1 fz1, sub 18k miles great shape for 2400 dollars. Threw some heated grips, tank grips, voltmeter / water temp gauge, LED headlights Kreiga US tank and tail bags. Smooth, capable and very quick tourer. People also track and stunt these bikes.

@mikesmotorcycles1521

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I have a 2005 FZ6 and I think it works for both the sport touring and commuting categories. I use mine for both and love it.

Excellent discussion, great hosts. Not that it matters, but my two cents worth. I'm in the county, so no 50cc's on two lane country roads. I've had three Helix 250's: 70mpg at 70mph, grocery store runs, cross country touring, fun (not fast) in the twisties, one of the most comfortable rides ever, can add a GIVI trunk, great weather protection, capable of two up 150lb riders, easy to push around and park, made for over two decades. Met a guy in the Smokies that was going round the globe on a Helix. This is one of the top ten motorcycles ever made. Have seen several this past year for under $1,500!

Yamaha TW200 is a great dual sport grocery getter for under 3k with a low seat height.

Long distance touring sub $3k, Suzuki Bandit 1200. Easy find from early 2000's, like 03-09.

@cesartapia610

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think that might be too much to handle for a newer rider? Would someone upgrading to their second or third bike be comfortable with that much power? Asking for a friend.

@christophepoteaux3932

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say 3rd bike. .. unless you're a big fella

Man, the prices in this became obsolete within only a couple months. (Recorded 04/20). Even a _1st gen_ Versys is really tough to find for under 3k, assuming you want good condition and less than a million miles.

Guys, nice show. I recently bought a 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250r for $200 dollars because it sat outside and didn’t start. I brought it home changed the oil, put new fuel in it, changed the battery and it started right up. Total cost including the bike $400. Use it to teach my kids how to ride.

I have an 86' Honda Elite 250 for commuting, paid $200; it's amazing! I was sad you didn't list a Kawasaki Concours, and then you honorably mentioned it. I have a 94' Concours for touring, I bought for $2,000. It is a bit of a boat; I'm 6'2" 250#, so it never seemed big to me. It is horrible to ride in traffic, but once you are on an open road it is a sport tourer. And you can put a lot of miles down comfortably, and two up touring comfortably. Loved this content!

I got my 2004 SV650 about 14 months ago for $1700. You can find good bikes out there at a really good price if you're patient and look hard enough.

@theguitarhero898

4 жыл бұрын

Hell ya. Bought my mint Honda Shadow 750 for $2150. Was super patient and it payed off.

The 5th gen VFR IS an excellent sport tour choice. For the weight, they handle well and inspire rider confidence. With a pipe, they sound so sweet. Long distance touring is a breeze on it.

Nice job guys I enjoyed this and learned some things. Keep them coming. Primo

Great discussion guys! I enjoyed your gentleman banter as well. Keep it up!

Great seeing Zach. I miss him and Arie on their old channel. I completely agree with the VFR 800 pick. I've owned two of them and it would absolutely be the bike I would pick.

@duncanwilliams3320

4 жыл бұрын

I borrowed a friend's VFR recently, what a lovely bike!

@Piercebelton

2 жыл бұрын

I had a VFR that I did a 12,000 mile 4 corners trip of the country on. Absolutely amazing motorcycle. Loved it.

Choice two: Suzuki TU250x... squishy suspension but super fun... can certainly get sub 3G... loved mine...

@dasko3

3 жыл бұрын

This!

Just picked up 2001 Suzuki tl1000s with all the upgrades (street fighter) super clean 15kmiles and scary fast... $2200

Fun and useful video guys, well done 👍

I bought a 2003 VStrom 1000 in Nov 2019 for $2500.

@Genisin

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to ask, "Why wasn't the Vstrom mentioned?" I just bought an 06 Vstrom 650 in November with 38K miles for $2500. It's been great so far.

@exploringhistory5796

4 жыл бұрын

Bill Ellis the VStrom 650 is a great bike-wish I kept mine! I’m sure you’ll be happy with it.

@loneridar

4 жыл бұрын

@@Genisin great bike

@BracaPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I'll jump in... Just bought an 06 wee 650 with only 9k miles... Full Givi bags $2600... Love that bike - probably wont sell it because wife is comfortable riding with the trunk and backrest on

@fullthrottle2stroke

4 жыл бұрын

@@BracaPhoto I got a 06 wee 650 with 19k

Awww sh*t! (Gets the popcorn). Finally something for us less fortunate bikers. 🙌🏾

Great show guys!

I have a sub-$3,000 bike. She’s 22 years old and my faithful companion. I paid $1,400. She was sitting for 7 years. Then: fresh fuel, rebuilt carb, new battery, oil and filter change, new petcock valve, new tires (and balanced), new front brake pads, fresh brake fluid, changed out mirrors, added rear luggage rack, moved the rear lights to the license plate frame, and added hard leather saddlebags. I love her. And best of all, I owe nothing.

Holy Cow! Zack Courts and the RevZilla gang all in one room. Imagine if only Lem was there too! (Mind blowing..!)

@thinkdunson

4 жыл бұрын

imagine if lemmy AND ari were there too

VFR800Fi, you can tour; commute in the city and go to the track, all with the same bike, without any mods; and under $3000!

@trantas4

3 жыл бұрын

just got a 99' one for 1900....i think i'm in love

You guys are doing great job making this fun and friendly for newbies like me!

I really appreciate that a scooterist was representing on this episode. As far as with the touring bike discussion, I would probably go for a 2015 Honda pcx, it is only a 150cc, but it is super comfortable to ride long distance, and plenty of storage space.

"cruisers aren't comfortable" Man, can I get some of whatever you guys are smoking? It must be amazing!

@donaldoehl7690

3 жыл бұрын

Spend a few hrs on a supersport torture rack and get back to me...

I currently own 1998 VFR 800fi, 106.800km on clock. (60.000+ miles) Pick a destination as long is not off road, I'll be there. It's endlessly reliable, V4 gear driven , still goes like a new bike. It's worth far more than it costs.

@sleepindragon179

4 жыл бұрын

I owned one too, (1998) V4 gear driven cams. Sweet sound. Bulletproof. Over engineered if that's possible. Future classic too. They can be bought in good condition very cheap. 👍I would buy another tomorrow!

Great insight. Concur on the cruiser being uncomfortable for this long upper torso'd bruiser. Standard all the way here. Thanks gentlemen

Still here in 2023. Agreeing with the 955i option. Bought a Triumph Tiger 955i for 2500 $ from 2002 that got 45000 miles on it and it’s a blast. Lots of power (107hp), good brakes, nice wind protection and comfy to ride. Only downside is no ABS and the color options. Get one that got a good service history and you’ll not be disappointed.

This episode was created just so Spurgeon can talk about his VFR again. And rightly so! I paid $2k for a 98 VFR800 with 32k miles in Nov 2019. Stupidly underrated and undervalued bikes today, and often owned by more mature riders who took decent care of them.

What?! No mention of the Suzuki Bandit in the sport touring area? I love mine.

@Buckarooskiczek

3 жыл бұрын

Best bang fir the buck out there! Got my Craigslist special B12 for $1700 and after $500 of TLC this sleeping monster has awakened!

I really like these podcasts with at least 3 people because you get to see different point of views about motorcycles. Keep it up 😄

Excellent stuff bro

Zack Courts: "cruisers are a passionless heap of metal to me" Also Zack Courts: "I ride a scooter guys, weeeee! It's got storage compartments too! Weeeee!"

@jeeves6490

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, man enough to have an opinion. Ever ridden a scooter? They're practical as hell. I've had all kinds of bikes, scooters are fun, cruisers can be too. Cruisers seem to have a higher proportion of wankers though.

First gen FZ1 or SV1000 for the VFR alternative! I think you guys nailed it on all of these though🤘🏼

Ari and Zack are coming to Revzilla?! That's boss!!! Can't wait to see what all of you guys put out to educate and entertain us!

Perfect discussion for quarantine. Thanks

Yamaha XT225 or XT250 or the TW200 are other choices for small dual sport

@apodski

3 жыл бұрын

The Xt350 blows all of them out of the water. Might have to do some maintenance on one tho.

@braydicus

3 жыл бұрын

My first bike was a xt225, keyword was.. freaking bike thieves.

Love having Zack on the show!

@mr.b3168

4 жыл бұрын

@Zack Courts FU cruiser hater

First bike I got was an 06 Honda Shadow Aero 750. $1900 at 8000 miles in near perfect conditions. And I love it. Granted, I changed the seat for a touring seat. But it was everything I wanted in a bike. Super comfortable with power to spare.

Honda NC700x got mine cheap! Great storage and 70 miles to the gallon for a fun bike! Don't know why so many over look this bike?

Fazer 1000 . Sv650. Vstrom 650. Great bikes

Gen 2 fz1s. They're normal risers so nice for long trips. 150hp so fast (detuned r1 engine) so could track day them. And if you can find one fully faired they even look sporty.

I bought a 1993 ZZR1100/ZX11 40,000 miles for £750 (UK) so well under a $1000 5 years ago, 2 years before this video. The guy said it sometimes had a problem turning over. It rode 60 miles home great, I went to start it again and it didn't turn over at first then started. I tightened the battery terminal and it works perfect now. Spent a little on it as it had a bent clutch lever and a few bits and pieces to do but stayed under $1000.

Zack totally changed the atmosphere on this show/episode. I think you guys discussed intensely haha and everyone had fun and alot to say. Hope to see one with Ari as well. :)

Proud owner of '74 RD350 , best bike to rip around town in .

@partlycloudy9443

4 жыл бұрын

I remember when those bikes came out in the 70‘s...they rip, very cool bike.

I've gone cross country on a CRF230L and long trek on a Nighthawk 250. Definitely capable touring machines!

@IvanRides

4 жыл бұрын

HSWAM wow how long the trip last you?

I enjoyed this talk. Thanks!!

Just bought a 1985 Yamaha Virago that's all bobbed out and what not. I'm a new rider and I gotta say I love the thing already.

I will agree with the recommendation for the Versys 650. I got my 2011 Versys 650 with 6,400 miles on it for $2,900.

A well maintained, garage kept first or second generation DL650 V-Strom with reasonable mileage can often be found for less than $3000. They live a long time and are one of the finest values in motorcycledom.

@AlexDenton0451

Жыл бұрын

Where are you looking, like actually? I cannot find one for the life of me.

@ralphcantrell3214

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexDenton0451 In very early 2019, I gave $2900 for my 2013 DL650 ABS Adventure model with every single factory option - aluminum trunk and saddle bags, skid plate, engine guards, and deluxe windshield. It was in absolute mint condition and had 10,000 miles on the clock. In the last 50 years I have owned around 40 nice, dependable motorcycles that were the envy of my riding buddies, and only one was new. I always get a good deal too, and this is how I do it: First, know exactly what you want, and be patient, and watch ALL the publications several times a day - e.g. Craigslist, FB Marketplace, ebay etc.. Then, when you see the perfect deal, you will instantly know it and won't hesitate. Try to close the deal on the phone immediately, and head out to pick it up without delay, before somebody offers them more money. I have closed the deal within an hour of a bike being posted at least a dozen times. And this is probably the single best tip I can give you: ALWAYS SEARCH A WIDE AREA, and be prepared to drive a reasonably long distance to get it. The perfect bike for the perfect price is rarely ever found just around the corner. I drove 6 hours one way to get my 'Strom. I drove over 11 hours to get my other street bike in the garage. I have driven even farther many times. What is a day or two of your life for something you will probably keep and enjoy for a decade or more? I still smile from ear to ear every time I throw a leg over any of my 5 current bikes. When I decide it is time to buy a bike, I will even inform my work that I am searching for a bike, and that I will probably be taking a day or two off without notice when I find it. This has worked for me without a single hiccup. The key is to buy "mint" or "nearly mint", garage kept bikes with really low miles, even if they are several years old. "Mint" is very difficult for a seller to misrepresent. All bets are off with extremely used and high mileage bikes however. I'm not sure I would take a long distance chance on something "iffy". Good luck!

@ralphcantrell3214

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexDenton0451 ...and remember, bikes are not like cars. Thousands of people buy them every year, and wind up just letting them collect dust in a corner of their garage. Extremely low mileage motorcycles that are several years old, but with decades of life left in them are definitely out there - LOTS of them.

@AlexDenton0451

Жыл бұрын

@@ralphcantrell3214 bless you brother, I'm new to motorcycle buying in general so I'm gonna take every bit of advice I can get! Thank you so much.

@ralphcantrell3214

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexDenton0451 You're welcome! And happy trails 👍

Nice podcast guys! Now I need to catch up!! Can't wait for Zach's and Ari's content!!

Excellent episode!!! Got my 2002 SV650s for $2200 with under 15k miles and LOVIN IT!!!

I'd say a late 90s early 2000 DR650 would be ideal for dual sports for inseam challenged riders. Can still cruise on the highway and bulletproof on trails.

@gogogeedus

3 жыл бұрын

Yer they would be great but maybe a bit dearer?this is about cheap bikes after all.

I’ve been riding for 57 years. I’ve only owned Yamaha, Honda, many models, and currently own 2012 Harley Heritage Classic which I love but find VERY HEAVY and difficult to handle at sub 10 mph. My favorite bike was a four banger Yamaha 1100cc Special but it was only a little sporty and I never pushed it. My very first real motorcycle was a Honda 360 Scrambler ( metal body parts added soon after Ha Ha! ) which was THRILLING! I don’t like the low center of gravity of scooters but had a 90cc Rabbit scooter with motorcycle tires that was an upgrade from my 1947 Briggs and Scranton scooter I began with before puberty. Yeah, I’m old, but will love motorcycles until I die. Life is like a motorcycle . . . . . To stay balanced you have to keep riding! I’m a cruiser at heart, love power and comfort, easy handling with adventure and style. What would be the right bike for me?

@bhagat6127

4 жыл бұрын

Try the Royal Enfield Himalyan or Classic 350 You can find used examples for around 3k

Good to see u, Zack!

Enjoyable and informative, thanks.

The KLR 650 is my choice for the price limit!

@markbd9775

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo! A 3k KLR 650 and you good to go anywhere

@scottg9481

4 жыл бұрын

They lost me at scooter. Lol

@theknifesong

4 жыл бұрын

I was lucky enough to find a totally decked out one with low miles near me for around 3k, it's awesome but it is tall - a DRZ 400 would be a good alternative

@kadx11

4 жыл бұрын

Was gonna say.. They bring up solid budget duel sports and don't talk about the KLR.. Lol

@toddmichaels42

4 жыл бұрын

It was mine.

Everytime these guys say "commuting" what they really mean is "around town." My commute is an hour and a half, one way. There is no way in hell I'm taking a metropolitan or a little 250 dual sport on the highway.

Don’t beat me here but I have put thousands of miles on Chinese scooters. I have ridden a couple 250cc scooters I’ve bought for around $1,500 new, out the door after TT&L. Great mileage, fun little scoots, cheap to maintain, and as long as you don’t leave them sitting for a couple months I’ve never had one fail to start. I had a spinal surgery once and left my Wolf scooter sitting for almost three months and all it took was a can of Sea Foam to clean the carb and fired right up. Parts can be bought online for a couple bucks (replaced a broken brake handle for $20 after shipping). The thing would carry my 6’1”, 280 pounds at 60MPH on level ground all day long. With the trunk I could carry a ton of groceries. If I need to hit the highway I’d jump on the Star Venture or Tracer (or whichever big bike I had back then) but when most of my bikes had been big displacement V-twins it is a lot easier to hop on the scoot and roll to the store up the street for some milk and bread than to muscle the old 800 pound M109R to the store with a backpack. I’m currently in between scooters but as soon as I can get my wife to agree to let me take up some more garage space I’m headed down to pick it another little GY6 based scooter. Apparently three bikes is too many from what she says so looking for four is a hard sell.

@eddesong

4 жыл бұрын

If I may inquire... as a noob researching 125-250cc motorcycles, was your main factor for choosing Chinese brands on price point as the top priority, with quality/ reliability next on the line? If Chinese brand bikes are just as reliable as the tried and true... I'm down to at least research and look into them. Thanks for the 2 cents either way.

@josh8494

4 жыл бұрын

Eddie Song, I think to clarify things, I would never even try to pit a Chinese GY6 (the engine that is common to many, maybe most, Chinese scooters) based scooter against one of the Japanese Big 4 or the Italians. There’s a huge difference in fit and finish and if you don’t do regular maintenance or live in a cold climate where you may go months between rides, you will definitely have some work to do to keep them running. I live in south east Texas so my riding season is about 11 months and three weeks. Part will be more inclined to break as well. My wife knocked one off the side stand and the impact of a slow fall to the driveway broke the end off of the cast aluminum break handle. Again, $20 after shipping and I was back on the road. If you have a little mechanical aptitude or aren’t afraid to rip things apart and learn you could have a scoot that will last for many years. Now to circle back around, I put less maintenance and efforts in keeping any of my Chinese scooters running than my lawnmower. None of mine have been prone to breaking down out of the four I’ve owned in my more than 30 years of riding on the road. I had one as a kid which I played with to learn how they work. I got it cheap and rebuilt it because I came up poor.two I lost in a divorce almost a decade ago. One was my project bike I was building up, jetting, big boring, upgrading thro rollers, and performance exhaust. A few more tweaks as well. The goal was 90MPH on 13” wheels. The second was my daily commuter. For the record, at the same time I had a 2008 Boulevard C90T. After the divorce I picked up a Wolf brand 250. Loved that scoot. At that point I had moved on to a 2016 Boulevard M109R BOSS. Still wouldn’t give up the scooter until I road the 2019 Tracer 900GT. My current wife said I couldn’t have a third two wheeler in the garage so I had to make the hard choice. I traded the scooter in for the Tracer because I wanted to get the Disabled Vet plates transferred and if I sold it I couldn’t get more than a couple hundred bucks for it. I basically gave it to my dealership in trade for the cost of TT&L. After that the boss (wife) said she wanted to start two up motorcycle touring so the M109R got swapped out for the 2018 Star Venture TC. Long story short, I’ve finally convinced the wife if I clear out some junk from the garage she will talk about letting me get another scooter. I hack some really nice and new bikes but if it means anything, I am going back for another Chinese GY 6 based 250cc scooter as soon as I can get a yes and stay married. Sorry for the long note here but I guess I wanted to have you understand the context of my discussion. I grew up on rebuilding hand me down dirt bikes which I repaired by scrapping worn out used parts off of other hand me down hanger queens until I final had a real road bike in the mid ‘80s when my brother-in-law said if I could get his Honda CM400T running again I could have it for $50. Done. Now I have become successful, financially, and have new truck, wife has a new SUV, I bought all three of my kids decent used cars, own my home, all the “successful stuff” and even though I could afford a Vespa I want another GY6. I just like to tinker on them, they are easy to work on. I Like to ride them. Short wheelbase, turn on a dime, and yes you can drag peg on a Chinese scooter, it just sounds like plastic sliding and leaves grind marks on the bottoms of the lower plastic. Reliability; I may just be lucky but I’ve never had to make a major repair to one of these. I’ve replaced parts I broke off (or my wife followed a month after fixing, the same part when my daughter bumped it with her car pulling into the driveway). I stress, I broke them. The only thing I’ve ever had “fail” was gummed up fuel lines after not draining it before a spinal surgery that kept me off the road for a few months. Cleaned the carb and the lines, no more problems. Quality/fit and finish; You feat what you pay for and a cheap scooter is made from cheap parts. If you let it live in the driveway the clear coat will peal off from the cheap finish on plastic. I fixed this by spray painting the plastic bits and decorating it like a Mad Max type motif. Sometimes, because I could and I wasn’t worried about ruining the resale value, that happened when I bought it, I would change it up and paint it red with flames. Just use your imagination and have fun. If nothing else, seeing the Army Disabled Vet plates on the back warned people I may not be right in the head so while people smiled at it a lot nobody ever gave me too much grief about it. The plastic over the dials would yellow but every couple years I polished it the same as fogged headlights. Piece of cake. The alternator is seriously under powered so either upgrade or kick start them if they sat for a couple weeks. I just hooked up a battery tender. These scooters do still have kick starters, just in case. My next one I will put on a bigger alternator because I wand a USB charger in the glovebox and some speakers I can hook to the phone. Cost of ownership; I have a good driving record and paid cash for my scooters, around $1,500 out the door on the last one, so I just carry liability on them. The insurance would cost more than replacing the engine, I’m sure. I paid about $40/year for insurance on it. Gas? Well, I was a big boy at my fighting weight, around 230Lbs, when I was in the Army (no, not fat) but have put on some weight since then, around 12 years ago. I was still in the 65 to 70MPG range. Oil changes and filters every 3,000 miles or twice a year, whichever came first. There’s another $12 or so depending on shipping. If you want to trick it out then the sky is the limit but outside of the already mentioned costs I really didn’t spend anything on it. Performance; Here’s the give and take. They are fun and nimble but you won’t beat anyone off the line. I mean anyone. That kid on the Big Wheel still rubs it in. You can actually replace the rollers in the transmission to get a higher top speed but slower acceleration or better acceleration with lower top speed, just decide what’s more important to you.i was shooting to increase top speed while increasing HP to help on the line. They ride pretty smooth until you hit high speeds. My last three got a little vibration after 50MPH. Not the death wobble, just vibrated. Breaks are what one might call, “there”. As in, they exists but only just. Like that uncle who claims to be a master chef but when he grills he always bring little charred pucks he swears are cheeseburgers. He’s proud of them and you make fun of him while you choke them down but he’s funny, if just a bit quirky, so you enjoy the day anyway even though it took three cans of root beer to get the burger down your throat. You just know it’s coming so you prepare ahead of time by lubing the bun with three times the ketchup and mayo. Just predict when you will need to stop and break before that. Way before that. Bottom line; In my humble opinion, the most fun/dollar 2 wheeler I’ve had. I love riding them. Completely different kind of riding than a “real motorcycle”. Just remember, your left hand is the rear break, like a bicycle, not the clutch. Don’t get me wrong, I still want a Vespa but it will live next to my GY6. I couldn’t hot dog and tinker on the Vespa the way I would my mood machine. As in I modify it or paint it to match whatever mood I’m in that week. And by the way, expect whatever you paint it to be temporary because even not exposed to sunlight the clear coat will peel off. Hey, that’s half the fun though. Gives you a chance to change it up and paint it a new color. I hope this never ending writing has helped, at least a little bit. Good luck and have fun on whatever you end up riding. That’s what it’s really about, enjoying ourselves.

Zak, you know the business! Kawa 650 versys easily tops,and qualifies all categories. I've had both the 2007 and 2017 models. They truly are versatile. They Excel in sporty twisty mountains. Perfect ergonomics-Sit down, stand up, comfortable long distance highway miles. Commute and town filtering. Knobbly tires and do all the non- technical off road. Now have the r1200gs and drz400sm for specific reasons, but prefer my happy days on the versys, and I sold my 2007 for 2000 euro with 25000 km. And if you can do a track day on a grom, or Honda kids bike, imagine what you can do on a Versys.