GarlicOS 2.0.1 (Public Alpha) supports the Anbernic RG35XX+ by Nov 14, 2023!

@Godiekgaming

5 ай бұрын

Please upvote this!

@hiddenleaf414

2 ай бұрын

Does it allow suspended gameplay?

@geggyboy1269

Күн бұрын

Does this allow suspended gameplay???????

An important upgrade not focused on was the Bluetooth capability so you can use separate controllers

@JCDenton.

6 ай бұрын

It's a Gameboy? Why would you use separate controllers on a Gameboy?

@kasperl2009

6 ай бұрын

@@JCDenton. HDMI output is the reason.

@colinmartin9797

6 ай бұрын

@@JCDenton. the thing has HDMI out. and also, a bluetooth controller with analog sticks lets you play n64, psp and dreamcast games that it runs but require a stick.

@phinyo2066

6 ай бұрын

It's also 1080p output

@phinyo2066

6 ай бұрын

Did he even talk about the wifi capabilities?

I love the bits you do for most ad reads, but this was such a step up, thanks for doing what you do

Getting mine today. Was considering the original rg35xx, especially seeing as I have a Steam Deck, but the Plus feels like it's a big enough boost to justify it. Not to mention I'm confident that community support will be there, so things should improve over time.

@CoquiFamilyChannel

6 ай бұрын

I think if you don't have the original, get this one then. It has a bunch of things like Bluetooth!

@bdf2660

6 ай бұрын

you mind trying out a ds dragon quest game (4,5, or 6) for me? how is it in dual screen? is it too small? then try 1 screen, does take away from anything? thanks.

@BenRK90

6 ай бұрын

@@bdf2660 It's going to depend on the game, but from my experience with DS games, the RPGs tend to be very single screen friendly. When having both DS screens displayed, it's not really ideal in my opinion, but swapping between top and bottom screen is a single button press.

Thank you for the great video! I sold my RG35XX to get the Plus. It's a good little handheld, even if it has some firmware issues and annoyances. Once a stable release hits, I can't wait to get GarlicOS 2.0 on it! It's gonna be a little powerhouse!

I purchased the RG35XX following your recommendation in one of your videos. I agree that the RG35XX Plus is an excellent upgrade, but it might be wise to wait until the custom firmware is available. Additionally, I believe this model features Bluetooth connectivity, enabling the pairing of a controller, which is particularly helpful for analog stick functionality

In January of this year, I bought the RG35XX for myself and my girlfriend got one, too. I’ve played it far more than any video game device I own this year (including a Steam Deck and OLED Switch). BlackSeraph made this device into absolute amazingness with very little downside. As it stands, I’m banking on BlackSeraph to do it again with GarlicOS 2.0 and will be purchasing a Plus. Here’s my reasoning as someone absolutely in love with his original and who quite literally carries it with me alongside my phone everywhere I go: * upgraded shoulder buttons * upgraded battery * support for Bluetooth so my 8BitDo controllers would work, along with my HDMI adapter, turning this into my ultimate “play anywhere” device * a larger library of games * more consistent PSX emulation (Jumping Flash didn’t work properly on GarlicOS 1.4.9) * whatever benefits and libraries the new GarlicOS will bring I’m willing to make that bet that GarlicOS will make this thing even more magical.

@supergluehotty

5 ай бұрын

Huh I bought one in the first week of January. By the second week the internals were dead. Cheap Chinese electronics. Beware!These are some risky electronics.

@robhulson

5 ай бұрын

@@supergluehotty what do you mean, “the internals were dead”? I’ve bought five handhelds (three from Ambernic, two from Retroid) and I’ve never had a problem with one. But yes, you are taking a risk. If your tolerance for risk is low, but through Amazon for a higher price and easier return policy.

@GeoffreyCapes

4 ай бұрын

@@robhulson - I think what he means is don’t plug it into any usb-C charger and fry it.

@robhulson

4 ай бұрын

@@GeoffreyCapes probably so. Ive used Apple and Anker chargers without any problems.

@GrimReaper_TTV

2 ай бұрын

@@GeoffreyCapesisn’t that the type of charger it came with?

Bob, love ya, but I think you need to distance yourself from Jirard. No more tweets or anything about it him, just stay away.

I actually threw in a purchase order for an RG35XX about 4 days ago for a total of 49 Euros (53 USD) from Geekbuying. I've basically just wanted a GBA emulator but handheld for the past few years and it'll do what I need it to - I'm glad to see that these companies can continue improving whilst keeping costs down. The return of retro these past few years has been an absolute delight.

@supergluehotty

5 ай бұрын

Hope yours is better than mine was. Dead by week two. Never dropped.

@GrimReaper_TTV

2 ай бұрын

@@supergluehottyI’d say send a report to hopefully get ur money back

THE AD YOU MADE WAS AMAZING! MORE SKITS PLS!

In Retroarch, you can enable shaders and use sharp bilinear simple, which does an integer scale as high as possible and then bilinear filtering the rest of the way. You get most of the sharpness of a full native integer upscale, but it will fill the screen at the cost of a tiny bit of blur. And that filter “just works” for every system.

First things first, I'd like to thank you for this type of video, I finally decided to order a Miyoo Mini + this month after I saw your video on it. The fact they don't charge for shipping is a great plus! About this device, it looks great but tbh, I never felt like playing consoles that are over 16 bits like N64 or Dreamcast on such a small screen. There might be some exception for games like Rayman on PS1, but overall, this never was a matter to me if the device can play those. I'll still look forward to any potential upgrades through custom firmware though, as they can improve the quality of use for such devices.

I have it to play older systems with some lcd or crt shaders, it works well but custom firmwares are strongly awaited. Still a really cool nostalgic feeling with a nice screen and great controls (100 % shoryukenable for me)

Jirard is not a nice guy just because he’s your friend Bob, he scammed his fans. Good video very informative.

@Wasoy17

6 ай бұрын

Will be unsubscribing

I was quickly looking at the KZread frames preview of this video because I'm not super interested in the device, but I saw your ad skit part and I've reached the point where I'm genuinely curious of what skit you come up with this time. Damn it, can't believe you made me interested in ads.

That Metroid Fusion Music opening hits so good

They released an updated that lets you tap the power button once on DS games that makes the dpad control the virtual stylus

The retro game handheld market always amazes me

Thank you for a great review! My brother just picked one up used for crazy cheap and I think this is what I’m gonna go also.

Seriously tho… I get hype for every Wulff Den upload bc the ad spots alone are the most entertaining on the platform. AND there’s gaming. Peak

B. Wulff, you my guy. I'm not into this handheld at all but you kept the review interesting. So much so that I even sat thru your commercial. (And I have YT premium so I really didn't have to) Keep doing what you do and you'll always have a fan.

The miyoo mini plus now supports drastic for ds emulation. One shoulder button swaps screens the other shoulder button toggles the dpad and a button to use the touch screen

@jacobporter419

5 ай бұрын

No GPU though = bad ds emulation 🤨

@AzeroxDoomraider

4 ай бұрын

@@jacobporter419 Works pretty good, played all the pokemon games on it without any problems.

@calebcretella2472

26 күн бұрын

@@jacobporter419not at all lmao

Very cool, I just wish they'd have kept the bezels from the original. The original grey looked so good.

Loved the choices for OST in this

I bought RG35XX because of what it was physically capable of. Which is being a good enough modern solution to playing all my GB and GBA games for less than 100$. Buying an upgrade to play games that requires analog sticks or a touch screen is baffling to me. Why go through all the trouble of remapping buttons and shortcuts just to have a worse gaming experience than the original hardware? And this is coming from me, a guy that would spend half a day tinkering with custom Android roms or Steam Deck plugins just to end up not playing anything.

of all the retro handlhelds out there, this (RG35XX Plus) just caught my attention especially the gameboy themed variant!! sure there's a lot of more powerful handhelds out there with the dual joysticks and plays much later consoles (PS2, GC) but this one.. for a retro handheld is just enough to bring back the whole 80's & 90's gaming era in the pocket.. the buetooth upgrade is great for earbuds and for connecting arcade sticks and tv.. damn, how I missed the OG GameBoy so much

We need a compilation of all of your ad reads, I would binge those on their own...

I bought one, my first retro handheld and I have nothing to compare it to. Ignorance is bliss. So my experience has been amazing. I find this community has insane hype and full of insane criticism for ultimately cheap devices which is good but can cause option paralysis. I would happily recommend this to anyone I love it :)

@rondroider8904

6 ай бұрын

Same here. Haven't had bad experience on this device.

I went with the 353V personally. Yeah it cost more, but having a touchscreen, analog joysticks, wifi, and Android made the whole experience so much more satisfying.

@Artificial.Unintelligence

6 ай бұрын

Was gonna say, he mentioned no sticks but a version has it. Curious about the performance of the internals vs this new rg35xx plus etc

@TeenieTinyTina

6 ай бұрын

353v display was always weird to me. It looks washed out.

@turnbasedtoddy7664

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is the right right thing to do the 35XX plus has all these upgrades but you can’t play any of the games that the upgrades allow, it makes no sense.

@Artificial.Unintelligence

6 ай бұрын

@@turnbasedtoddy7664 does the 353V work better or at least the same vs the 35xx or 35xx plus? It's hard to tell in product listings and I don't really see anyone doing solid benchmark comparisons because it's kinda overkill and it's hard to compare over time for reasons like bob mentioned the updates etc..

@turnbasedtoddy7664

6 ай бұрын

@@Artificial.Unintelligence I have both and the 353v definitely plays games better than the 35Xx plus when we’re talking about Dreamcast and Nintendo, 64. It also plays Nintendo DS way better because it has a touchscreen .The 353 also comes with android as well, so you can use either Lenix or android when you boot into it depending on what you like.

Ive been loving the flip for basically everything lately. Sure its not perfect for some things. But i love having a clamshell. Wish one of these companies could do that, but with a metal shell.

@rushmore3927

5 ай бұрын

I have a Flip and like it bunches- Plays all N64 peachy, but still considering this in the Gameboy version color. It would be for 16Bit on down and Final Burn.

@NovaIsTheBot

5 ай бұрын

@@rushmore3927 if I didn't have the Miyoo plus. I probably would too. Tho having both these handhelds I'm still wanting a decent flat one. I have the steamdeck but its to big to really use like that alot. Gonna wait at least a little while to see if someone's gonna make a metal flip, or something decently more powerful comes out. Happy with what I have for rn at least.

This device is getting as close as I believe is possible for a perfect experience of pre-2000 console video games. I’ve played my RG35XX this year far more than any other video game device by a large margin.

@rcmatheus02

6 ай бұрын

Same bro. I bought a 3DS and a Switch this year, and I played a thousand times more in my RG35XX. Definitely a great handheld console.

@tydshiin5783

6 ай бұрын

Probably because that this unit actually has a size that's relatively pocketable that isn't too uncomfortable to hold for long periods(Kinda debatable) and I don't think Nintendo has made retro games available outside an online subscription+DLC And your alternatives are either too poorly stocked or too big to conveniently carry around or too expensive Speaking from someone who also has a N3DS and Switch OLED

@robhulson

6 ай бұрын

I got a Steam Deck in November 2022, and I still bought the RG35XX in January of this year. Already owned a Retroid Pocket 2, a Switch OLED, N3DS (soft modded), Wii U (soft modded), and I even tried getting a Tracfone Galaxy a10e with an 8BitDo Pro2 and phone holder. Clearly, I was looking for something. The RG35XX goes with me everywhere. I play it in line at the supermarket, I’ll play it at the dentist office. I’ll play it on the couch next to my kids, I’ll play it in bed alone. My girlfriend has one and we’ll play side by side. I was close to buying the Miyoo Mini but it wasn’t ever available. This device really hit the sweetest of spots with its form factor and availability, and I’ll take slight iterative improvements on it and will probably upgrade to every version that comes out. Probably the best thing I did was narrowing my ROM set. I’ve been following emulation closely since the late 90’s, and my collection has evolved over the years until I have pretty much an exhaustive list of pre-1999 mainstream console games. I simply went through every folder, line by line, asking myself, “Do I actually like this game? Was I genuinely curious about this game?” and made a curated version of my library. Threw it on my RG35XX and voila, couldn’t put it down. Meanwhile my Steam Deck had EVERYTHING. And there it sat, collecting dust (until I decided to play RE2 and RE3 Remakes late this year). Been focusing not just on beating the old classics, but mastering them. And also got into the improvement ROMhacks and wow are they amazing. I love this thing.

@robhulson

5 ай бұрын

I love you guys, we are in the same boat. In 2022, I got a N3DS (which I softmodded), a Wii U (which I softmodded), and a Steam Deck (in November). I got my RG35XX in January of 2023. Just got the Plus last week and put MinUI on it as I wait for Garlic to improve. It’s important to me that I both support current good faith efforts my devs to preserve classic games (hence I have a NSO subscription, and I bought Metroid Prime Remastered and am about to get Mario RPG), but I don’t want that to ever take the place of my own ownership over the hardware and software side of video games.

I got this for Xmas and OH BOY does it need updates. Bluetooth is spotty, N64 doesn't work yet, PS1 emulation is spotty, but the back buttons are nice....early console so I'm sure it will all be fixed. HDMI out works well. (Update, just got N64 working but only a few games work well so far, JS)

@Dracossaint

6 ай бұрын

This is the second Gen of said console.

@sideshowtgf

6 ай бұрын

@@Dracossaint Yes it is....hence the plus 😂 I have the original as well.

@idkwhattohaveasausername5828

6 ай бұрын

Even when N64 support gets added, it’s still gonna feel like garbage to play with a dpad and no analog sticks at all.

@ALC570

6 ай бұрын

Here we go with the time travelers in the comments again

@sideshowtgf

6 ай бұрын

@@ALC570 Who's time traveling?

Just here for the completionist comments lmao

Ordered one a few days ago for over the standard 35XX due to the PSP capabilities. I’m an RPG lover so I’m really only going to be playing things like the PSP Persona 2 ports, which should run excellently. I’m very excited.

@suhtangwong

6 ай бұрын

How about persona 3?

@wulf2863

6 ай бұрын

​@@suhtangwongp3 portableis not worth it, better play playstation 2 enhanced version or wait for reload in February that is the remake

@jamesondiskin

6 ай бұрын

I've played P3P in the past, but I'd recommend playing FES. I'm not going to replay Persona 3 until Reload is out though.@@suhtangwong

My 35XX Plus just got delivered!! Perfect timing 😂

I love the XX. Its the perfect modern gameboy. However, I will stick to my RG351V for now because I'm not a garlicOS fan. I prefer AmberElec, which isn't compatible to the XX line. Plus the 351V's one stick (no one needs two) is a nice benifit.

one thing I want to add is when custom firmware comes out, this might be the best way to play gba and PS1 because of specific reasons. For GBA, you would have the benefit of using mGBA for all games which is a emulator that has higher compatibility and less graphical issues comepare to others emulator like gpsp. Don't know about the RG35XX but I know for the Miyoo Mini Plus, it has performance issues for some games running mGBA like FF6 or Monkey Ball for example. For PS1, you might have the option for better audio. For pcsx rearmed, they have a audio option which helps the game sound like they did on PS1. On low end devices, its usally put on Simple or Off because it cause performance issues. If you play a game you're really familiar with, you can that your game doesnt sound right. For me, FF7 sounded crunchy. Just for the bit increase in accuracy and performance, I think it will be worth it if it had custom firmware.

I was gonna buy 35XX plus because I got the normal 35XX’s for my 2 kids(as per your recommendation thanks Bob) for Christmas gifts. And I wanted one for myself because I liked it so much. But after watching the content I have decided to wait it out for garlic to release for the plus and buy some drinktrade coffee instead 🙌🏻 Happy Holidays Bob 🎁

@danross1038

6 ай бұрын

You don't have to buy every thing he shills for

@user-cv7ey6fb4c

6 ай бұрын

Also good to wait a big to see what Christmas, boxing day, and new year sales there might be

I KICKSTARTED THE COIN. It worked about 20% of the time, but I loved it. Thanks for reminding me.

Literally just bought this last night after watching your short on this device

Mine should arrive an Saturday. I just want to play retro games up to GBA or PS1 I haven't tried in the past and use it for some quick gaming while waiting somewhere. I decided to get the Plus version because of the better d-pad. I have no issue with waiting for GarlicOS. I think one important point you should have mentioned is that it has Wifi which enables you to use Retro Achievements.

At this price point, the perfect use for this seems like as a gift for your kids/nieces/nephews/et al, just like the GameBoys we got for our birthdays and christmases back in the day. Especially as a Switch alternative, even if the family already has one. Unwrapping this or finding it in your stocking, set up and full of 8-bit/16-bit/ps1 games, would be really exciting as a youngster.

Thanks, bought the original, for mainly gb, gba, ns and sns emulation throught your link.

for me, the thing that has me considering it is the bluetooth. it was the only thing holding back my original 35xx really from an hdmi out portable switch-like device. so bluetooth is huge, but there seems to be one issue, the video out is still stretched all wrong. if custom firmware fixes that, I'll upgrade instantly. Also the d pad is more rounded and looks more comfortable.

@Lucifronz

6 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure I've seen a video already showing the beta for Garlic OS 2.0 and it has options for toggling your HDMI-out aspect ratio. Don't take my word for that, though. Even if I'm misremembering, I'm sure it'll be a feature. It *has* to be, that's essential! But we'll see.

8:00 aww, I haven't been reminded of Elite Beat Agents in a long time. Now I kinda wanna play Osu Tatakae Ouendan. Those & the Trauma Center series. DS had such neat titles.

I didn’t realize the PSP functionality this is an instant buy now! Thought I’d be playing Smackdown 2 but it looks like I’ll have SvR on the go

I know it's more expensive, but to play N64 and PSP in that form factor, the RG353 VS is your best option, or the V model if you want android, I have the 353V since last year and it is one of the best gaming purchases I've ever made

Garlic OS is pretty neat. I bought 2 RG35XX for my nephews and was considering buying the rg35xx plus for me, but I ended buying a retroid pocket 3+

Bob! I know this isn't related to the topic of the video but are you really using your Podmic for the audio in this video? If so how are you getting it so loud and clear from that far away without sounding far away.

Thanks for the info Wulff, just won one in a give away and I just wanted to know what I was dipping my toes into

Your ads are the best ❤

Is new boost enough to play Saturn games? I’ve played most of the library and hardly any games require the analog stick…it’s more like a bonus on a few games or required if you want to master a few games.

Hipster Bob is so focused on the coffee!

I would make the case for the RG353P. It has come down in price. I can play anything up to PS1, PSP, and Dreamcast pretty well.

The stock OS on this is actually better than the original because on this one you can go into all the retroarch settings and tinker to your hearts content. On the original RG35XX you couldn’t do that so that alone is reason enough to buy this over the original. Also, on drastic, you could’ve used HD resolution, and that would have got rid of the jaggedness on your DS games

I don’t know if the BGM at the beginning is Metroid or FF or a whole other franchise, but it made me realize how similar their soundtracks are lol.

Pretty cool these companies are listening to customer feedback like on those shoulder buttons. Looking forward to see what improvements custom firmware can do for this thing. Once that happens I think this will be one of the best values on the market.

Just paid 55$ shipped for it on eBay with a coupon. With it being that relatively cheap, I’m pretty confident i made a good purchase. I was looking at these for hours and hours trying to decide which one before deciding I only need to play up to snes anyway on this thing. N64 and psp just wouldn’t feel right on a vertical format anyway. If I ever wanna play those I’ll probably invest in a larger retroid or rg405m.

I always happen to be drinking coffee when I watch your videos that it’s become a ritual at this point.

you kinda sound like john krasinski from the office. new sub

If you're new to all of this, whats the better entry an RG35XX Plus without a better OS currently out or a Miyoo Mini Plus that you can put OnionOS on now?

So I bought this back in December because of this video. One of the things not mentioned that people like myself are catching onto is the lack of firmware and os support. The stock os isn’t the best, roms are not that good, but the device is flawless. I wished there was a proper os that can utilize roms more easily other than stock.

Are you linked to the charity fraudster?

I'm still using an original LDK vertical with RetroFW on it. I kinda want a Powkiddy X55 as I want a physically bigger machine (my eyes are kinda old, I need to book an eye test). Otherwise I've been considering a R36s as they're stupid cheap!

I love my Miyoo mini plus but this is tempting. I’d love to be able to play Dreamcast psp and ds

bought a Miyoo mini plus bc it had WiFi then Anbernic announced this two weeks later -_- might buy it once GarlicOS gets updated

I just ordered a plus. I’ve loved the original for a while, and all I really want is a little better performance from some games exhibiting slowdown on the base version (GBA Pokemon games, front mission 3, etc.). Can’t wait for it to arrive!

@inshal6420

13 күн бұрын

Damn wanted it just for Pokémon. Its $46 vs $105 difference for store shipping to Canada lol

Ordered one of these, and was waiting for you to make a video. Hasn't shown up yet sadly.

The Fusion music is goated

Ouch, I really felt that $16 for a cup of coffee 🤣 We might actually get there with the way prices keep going up 😬

I wish more in video Sponsorships were done the way you do them. I wouldn't hate them as much lol

9:45, you have to restart the game/emulator after changing the internal resolution to not get the stretching screen

Is this not the Miyoo Mini plus? Sorry for the silly question but I’m brand new to hand helds. Got into them maybe a week ago and it’s hard to keep track of all of them

Thanks man. I appreciate your time and effort here. I got a Anbernic 405V cuz of you.

Did you get that with Jirard's charity money?

@IkaSchmika

6 ай бұрын

​@@NotAnInternetTrollwow, you are just as selfish as the guy I was talking about :D

thanks for the review! any idea how the original n64 animal crossing may play on this?

Are you using December 8 firmware? Mine doesn’t have a lot of the issues you got there. (* mine was shipped by Anbernic from China directly couple days ago, with the latest firmware pre installed.

No talk of the new Bluetooth controller functionality? Perfect for the new chip power for DC/N64!

You’re the only person I willingly choose to watch sponsorships for

Bob, would love to see the RG35XX H video from you, it will provide me emotional security after my purchase, thanks.

Wi-Fi for Retro Achievements and multiplayer games with other people who want to use an easier-to-handle device when compared to the Miyoo Mini+, which is NOT a bad device, but it IS slightly harder to grip.

Just curious what you think the best rg variant is with either one or 2 joysticks? Between RG350, RG350P, RG350M, RG280M, RG351P, RG351V, RG353V/RG353VS, RG35XX H. Just curious which one is the most powerful/and or best choice out of these

So I’m seeing that garlic os is comparable with the + now that it was released on the 24th of Nov? I saw through Reddit/X not sure if it’s still more in a beta state?

I keep thinking about getting an emu console but can't figure out if I'd actually play it or not, how much do all you guys actually play it and what games do you play the most?

Mine’s on the way now, I legitimately only want it for pokemon gba rom and rom hacks, also the pokemon ds games

Hi Bob! Quick request... The last scene in your video seems wobbly (I wouldn't report on it, but it triggered nausea on me).

I can't believe you support the completionist. SHAME ON YOU.

Fairly sure Garlic 2.0 has been on the device since launch, though the thing that Taki pointed out though is that the CFW has fewer emulators for now, so no DS or PSP or DC, so that might still be up in the air.

@norezplaysgames

6 ай бұрын

The biggest thing missing from GarlicOS 2.0 is proper GPU support. With Garlic installed, it's basically a Miyoo Mini+.

Did you try other plug-ins for n64, such as the Rice plug-in? You should notice better performance.

not mention upgrade of bluetooth, wifi, battery size？besides chips, these are also major upgrades and future proof.

please do a review on the R36S ! things a goat!

I don't know how many times I have seen this video, even after buying this thing!

Would've been nice if the MM, MM+, RG35XX, and RG35XX Plus had touch screen for the DS support. Waiting for my RP4 Pro to play DS games properly.

I got my RG35XX+ last week, and installed Garlic OS 2.0 on it just fine. Not sure if you filmed this video before Garlic OS 2.0 was out, or if you just haven't seen it? Luv u bob

@Kamakazie27

6 ай бұрын

Have you actually tried using it? It's basically just a proof of concept right now, it performs noticeably worse than the stock firmware.

Shenmue is a Dreamcast game that would use the D-pad as its primary controls. I know you don't have it for testing, though.

With all these good affordable emulators is the analogue pocket worth it’s price?

You sponsored ad was hilarious. You're the only youtube channel that I actively watch the sponsored ads for and dont skip through them. Honestly, if you made a video compiling all of your sponsored ads, I'd watch it.

Please note that the original RG35XX can play DS games as well thanks to an unofficial port of drastic

I’ve been playing my rip of Mario 64 DS, it’s nice and you only need the touchpad for the menu after getting a star.

Does Pico-8 Splore work over WiFi and does Pico-8 perform better? Does 8bitdo bluetooth controllers work? These are the potential reasons why I'd want to upgrade. I can't get answers on them tho.