Nice 🙏

Very good video TheDarthDesigner but there is a mistake with the cost of the F100 Álvaro de Bazán class. The first four costed 430 million € (465,33 million $) and the F105 Cristobal Colon (the last one) costed 822,99 million € (890,61 million $). Not to mention that although the Álvaro de Bazán class are officially frigates for their mission and design are AWD (air warfare destroyers).

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'll correct the video in the next update :-)

@javierolivan9646

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner The AEGIS system puts the F100 many positions above, near 1 or 2 position.

Make video top 10 Coast Guard Ship & cost ship.

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

I will ;)

Stupid ranking. No other has a trio of Kablibr/Onyx/Zircon like does Admiral Gorshkov, so what is the most powerful frigate?

@swunt10

3 жыл бұрын

soviet and russian ships always have way to much weapons stuffed into them with most of them not working and the rest being more of a liability than anything else. like with tanks, ships should be a good balance of fire power, protection, mobility and modern sensor systems. not just a smal boat packed to the max with large rockets.

9:54 ........ Nice setup mang.. I'm jelly

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

It took 5 years to achieve it so I'm glad you like it bro ahah

Jai Hind nice vedio 👏👏

Most modern ships classification of countries is more complicated (´･_･`)... Some EU countries use frigates as their main force, just like destroyers. I think the position of frigates in naval ships : "The cost and tonnage should not exceed the Destroyer. (Less than 5,000 tons) "Acts as a guard and air defense and anti-submarine support (Ocean Fleet) "Independently nearshore operations (1000 to 1200 nm)

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Good points, in this moment it's really a mess how they classify these ships eheh

@swunt10

3 жыл бұрын

the name Destroyer comes from shortening the actual name which is torpedoboat-destroyer. meaning a vessel that was developed during the age of battleships to preotect the battleship formations from small torpedo boats which where using swarm tactic to attack. destroyer as a name therefore doesn't have anything to do with size nor is it a menaingfull name for todays situations and tactics. frigate on the other hand has been a name for a mid sized war ship since the age of sails. I have no idea why americans think that destroyers are somehow suppoesedto be larger than frigates? size doesn't come into the naming convention at all. the next lager vessel than a frigate would be a cruiser which name comes from a ship crusing through the 7 seas far away from home port which requires a larger vessel.

Inaccurate info👊👊

Hands down. This is the best, very well explained, detailed video I've found on KZread of frigates. Thankyou so much.

FREMM IT with SCALP - endless range!

Over huttfield class for ph Navy frigate .

I prefer french frigates all the way...state of art

@CriscCiaddu

Жыл бұрын

IMHO The French Frigate🇫🇷 it must always be together with the Italian Frigate🇮🇹 in the videos where the Frigates are compared. 🟥The 2 FREMMs have pros and cons. 1) 🇫🇷The French MTU engine(+27 knots) was designed to escort the CV CdG, thus reaching speeds of 27 knots. 🇮🇹The Isotta-Fraschini engine favors a speed of +30 knots because it has to escort the Cavour traveling at 29 knots. 2) The French Fremm🇫🇷 is more Stealth and with deep strike capability with MdCN(1000km) missiles, CAPTAS-4 for all 2 Versions(AAW and ASW) but has a vulnerable M-PESA 3D Radar, the Herakles, no place for special Ops units and no 127mm for close surface battles. -The Italian Fremm🇮🇹 has a M-AESA 3D Radar, Kronos Grand Naval(MFRA), 127mm(120km of range) for close Naval Battles, 200 place for special force units, MILAS torpedo but has a limited deep strike/coastal bombing capability with the 76mm Strales/Davide(only 40km), less stealth design and CAPTAS-4 only for FREMM in ASW configuration.

I take it this guy is French or Italian so a Franco/Italian ship being Numero uno is not biased then.

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

I'm Italian but not biased, actually this is the only time my country is first and just one of the few times is even present in the lists. I always follow criteria, don't care about countries like most of the people I see commenting

@clitoralrosary9474

4 жыл бұрын

FREMM has superior armament, avionics, electronics, and maneuverability. It also has different configurations optimised for specific roles. It has state of the art weapons including Aster 30, Vulcano rocket assisted shells, and MILAS torpedo delivery missiles.

@vivekkaushik9508

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner honesty is the best policy. I appreciate that.

The only one frigate fitted with Aegis System in 6th place 🤔... that smells bad dude

@DarthDesigner

3 жыл бұрын

Well the aegis system is not the only valid naval combat system in the world and you can't value a ship only by that without considering also everything else 👍🏼

@antoniomarino6022

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner Agree, but you will concur with me that it's a high value factor, taking into account that it implies the aaw superiority

Non è difficile riconoscere un accento "maccheronico" anche se molto ben mascherato; i dati sono attendibili e seguono un filo logico molto stabile e definito, per cui, italiano o non la classifica rimane invariata fino a prova di errore

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Ti ringrazio tantissimo, sto lavorando sull'accento e spero pian piano di ridurlo al minimo. Per quanto riguarda la classifica, faccio del mio meglio per portare dati oggettivi da cui poi ognuno può trarre conclusioni e, nel caso, smentirmi. C'è sempre da imparare! :)

In my humble opinion,all western boats are outgunned in the antiship aspect.HARPOON is already an old weapon and KALIBR,ONIX AND BRAHMOS ARE FAR SUPERIOR.HOPE,THOUGH,TO BE WRONG

@Mael1er

2 жыл бұрын

French MdCN...

I think Gorshkov class cant be on this list cause it's under construction. If Gorshkov is on the list, then you should put in the Belhara too! For the Russian navy you should put Admiral Grigorovich. Anyway, great video my friend! Greetings from Hellas! PS: Sorry for my english!

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

The Gorshkov entered into service in 2018 while a second ship is under sea trials! The Belhara is a different story, under construction and with the first commissioning planned in 5 years from now :)

@Yiannis_Kak1995

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner Oh ok, sorry i thought the first Gorshkov is under sea trials again! Thanks bro!

Shivalik class 😎😎😎 But I thing India 's Nilgiri class in at rank 1 or rank 2

Number one is Belhara.

gorskov id the no. 1 frigate

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah, it can be :)

Franco Bergamini & AQouitaine?

I'd think the zeven provinciën is the best of the three air defence frigates in this video (meaning huitfeldt and f125, they are basically the same platform with some variations). But what puts the zeven provinciën ahead of all these other ship, are it's radars. The new radars, the SMART-L EWC increases the range from 400km to 2000km. This makes it the only naval ship that's truly able to detect and track ballistic missiles, making it ready for a ballistic missile defence role. This makes the zeven provinciën a superior air defence frigate, and that's why it's superior to the huitfeldt for example. It doesn't really change anything to the top 2, because those are not really air defence ships. So I'd say the zeven provinciën should probably be 3rd place, being the best frigate from the three 'brothers' (zeven prov., sachsen and huitfeldt) within their role.

@bartdekoning6047

4 жыл бұрын

Also having 8 more VLS in the normal configuration gives it a huge edge over the other two, and it even has room for 8 more VLS, bringing the total to 48, thus having 50% more VLS than the other two ships. This means it can easily add 8 SM-3's in the VLS without losing space, which will make it a true BMD frigate/destroyer.

@vincentbarnhard

3 жыл бұрын

@leonardimas1 the US Navy has Dutch radar systems on-board, Italian French hull build is cost-effective their advanced equipment isn't

The French / Italian FREMM Frigates are the best !!! Even Americans are ordering then as we speak ! The best ! Best radar and stealth !

@Emperor_Roblox_fruits

4 жыл бұрын

Viva le fremm from egypt 😁

Finally my country is first! 🇮🇹

@remihu1802

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too :-D 🇫🇷

@ColVedo

4 жыл бұрын

@Gretal Turdberg Gretal vaffanculo. Gli austriaci sono impauriti ancora oggi.

@kasmidjan

4 жыл бұрын

Fremm is very Famous in making frigatte

There are some ships that blur the line between destroyer and frigates. Take for eg Shivalik class of India . It has a displacement of about 6800 tons equivalent to a destroyer . But due to it's less armaments it is considered as a frigate.Basically a heavy frigate or light destroyer.

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Completely right, is quite difficult in the modern era to perfectly find the right role of a ship. It's the same with some destroyers very close to cruisers

@Sid-bd5pt

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner There's another. Back in WW1 and WW2 era Carriers we're escorted by Battleship because they posses superior firepower. Nowadays destroyer too posses firepower equivalent to a WW2 battleship. Some destroyer posses nuke cruise missile ( Kolkata class , don't know any other ). In other words , a destroyer can fulfill a role of any ship even Aircraft carrier ( Jsmdf Kaga ).

The Baden Würtenberg had 6 Torpedos and is a anti submarin frigate

In this day and ages frigates and destroyers are indistinguishable, cause now you can have rather large frigates doing the AAW role and ASW role, and have destroyers do the AAW and ASW role too, only difference being tonnage what it was specifically designed for in the first place, and amount of VLS it has

@DarthDesigner

2 ай бұрын

Very true. And modern destroyers are sometimes even larger (and more capable) than previous cruisers

@commodorce6431

2 ай бұрын

@@DarthDesigner true but then again you have European monster frigates that rival the size and in cases the tonnage of destroyers (for example Type 26 class frigate is 148 metres long while Type 45 class destroyer is 152]

@DarthDesigner

2 ай бұрын

@@commodorce6431 True as well. At this point frigates,destroyers and cruisers can be grouped in a single category like "multi-purpose missile Launcher ships" MPMLSh sounds good too lol

@commodorce6431

2 ай бұрын

@@DarthDesigner yeah, but I guess that’s what general purpose frigates are

Interesting Chinese 054A has longer range, more missiles than some, costs less and the most in number is not rank higher!

Nehi nehi acha acha

@5fatlittlerabbits

What!!! These are mostly very old European ships. Why bother to put a Chinese and Indian ships here

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Because they deserved a spot :)

@moo76man

4 жыл бұрын

Or may be you had to put in some ships other than european ships. I say this european old ship ranking +.

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

I don't have to put ships if they don't deserve a place. I don't care about countries but only about quality, if a machine is good has a spot, easy

@RobertTapia

4 жыл бұрын

Because they suck. Japan also nothing against china. American frigates also very poor.. ie lcs.

A ver, solo hay que mirar el costo de cada una de las fragatas eso de indica su capacidad.

@Christian-gq1oj

3 жыл бұрын

De hecho, no

Есть одно НО, в России классификация отличается от натовской. По классификации НАТО Адмирал Горшков классом повыше, чем фрегаты НАТО. Под определения фрегатов(по общенатовской классификации) подходят новые российские корветы, так что прежде чем составлять подобные рейтинги разберись в классификациях, назначениях и вооружениях

Admiral Gorshkov Class need to be first.

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Why? :D

@xpressmoto9605

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarthDesigner It has more fire power .

@mohnishm1372

4 жыл бұрын

@@xpressmoto9605 you can hit a target only when you see it, no matter how much is your firepower. Hence electronic warfare and stealth are necessary today.

@faridadungca5822

4 жыл бұрын

Mohnish M those Russian fanboys only know about firepower 😂 they forgot that EW, ECM, advanced radar/electronic and stealth matter nowaday.

It is ridiculous to look at your reviews, where you, having seen enough, do not take into account the real possibilities of Russian equipment and equipment, including their cost.

@silvermitriy

4 жыл бұрын

And if possible, so far all the others in the ass))

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Why I don't take into account the russian possibilities :/ I'm simply objective and not biased :)

The first Project 17A Frigate of India was launched last month. it would possibly be the best frigate in the world once commissioned in 2022-23? :P

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Well it's very possible. I still didn't get enough info on it (I always wait the commissioning to study the machine) but at a first look it really seems a masterpiece.I was impressed the first time I've seen it. I have to admit indians are working so well on their ships. Can't wait to see the new aircraft carriers too!

I think FREMM shouldn’t be in 1st place: they are exceptional ships and surely the most advanced frigates in the world... but the Italian FREMMs only have 16 VLS cells for Aster missiles (very light armament for a 7000 ton frigate), while the French FREMM have double the VLS cells but with inferior radar system (and without a backup radar!). At the moment, the best frigate overall is likely the Iver Huitfeld... really good design, advanced and modular. Admiral Gorshkov has impressive firepower but inferior systems compared to western ships. The Baden-Wurttemberg class shouldn’t even be on the list: they are basically upsized offshore patrol vessels designed only for anti-piracy duties and land-attack, without any tangible anti-air capability.

@clitoralrosary9474

4 жыл бұрын

With respect the 16 cells does not do justice to the ships air defense capabilities. The Bergamini class is the only ship in the world armed with advanced Aster 30 long range anti-air missiles and the vessels themselves can synchronize with the PAAMS radar/tracking system from Italian navy destroyers in order to track all objects in an 800 km circle. Lastly, the Bergamini class has 32 cells. But the latter 16 are reserved and only used if absolutely necessary, like in wartime for example.

@pincopallino6765

4 жыл бұрын

Prince Stingy No, both Bergamini (general purpose variant) and Fasan (ASW variant) only have 16-cells; the other 16-cells are only “fitted for but not with), meaning that there’s theoretically enough space to install them but they are not installed... to be equipped, the ships would require an upgrade and modifications in drydock, and obviously the VLS itself and the missiles for the extra cells would also need to be procured. The Bergamini general-purpose version currently uses the space reserved for the extra cells as accomodation for a detachment of San Marco Regiment soldiers (basically the Italian Marines); this role might be taken up by the PPAs frigates currently under construction, freeing up the space for the 16 extra VLS... but the Italian Navy was running out of budget even before the coronavirus economic crisis (the Navy managed to secure a lot of new ships being built, but with limited funds remaining for their weapons), so it’s unlikely the fitted for but not with weapons will ever be installed.

@clitoralrosary9474

4 жыл бұрын

@@pincopallino6765To elaborate, the FREMM of both variants are equipped with DAVIDE/STRALES Oto Melara 76mm gun which uses DART guided munitions in an 80-85 round magazine with reserve ammunition aboard. This allows the 76mm gun to engage aircraft and missiles with a range of up to 10 km, double the range of any CIWS. So in effect, it's equivalent to a short range missile system. My point is the lack of cells is actually an illegitimate criticism of the FREMM's anti-air capabilities. In reality unlike most major surface combatants, FREMM actually has multilayered air defence. Aster 30 (long range), Aster 15 (medium range), and DART (short range).

@pincopallino6765

4 жыл бұрын

Prince Stingy Strales is an effective CIWS system... but a maximum of 16 missiles means that the ship can’t properly survive an intense saturation attack or engage many targets during a prolonged deployment (can’t reload the cells at sea). Things may improve in the future once the CAMM-ER will enter service; on the frigates it will replace Aster-15, with 2 x CAMMs packed in a single cell (but this is still far from the “efficiency” of the Mark 41 VLS found on most other European frigates, that enables a mix of Standard missiles and quad-packed Evolved Sea Sparrows).

@pincopallino6765

4 жыл бұрын

leonardimas1 The 127/64 is not an effective anti-air weapon; its rate of fire is 32 rounds per minute and it is not equipped with guided anti-missile projectiles like the 76mm DART.

Germany 🇩🇪 the only country that has 2 spots on this top, even #4 was produced since over 20 years. Germans are outstanding on whatever they decide to do.

@DarthDesigner

3 жыл бұрын

They really deserve it

@tulsiramupadhaya9854

2 жыл бұрын

Good love from india 🤙🤙🤙🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳😁

Why Chinese fregate have Greek flag?

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you can find different flags on the ships when they meet without hostile intentions. You can notice the same during RIMPAC videos where many ships have different flags :) If you don't know what RIMPAC is here a fast link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_RIMPAC

Funny how people here are acting like they know all of ranking

Необъективно , горшков лучший в своем классе

How is the Chinese ship so cheap,maybe just buy from them

@DarthDesigner

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because everything is cheaper there....this is the same reason why almost every product you have at home is built there even if the company is from another country :)

The Russian frigate at number two....! I haven't laughed so much in a long time. Obsolete junk.

@ekarus4360

2 жыл бұрын

Russian ships are superior no other ship can become a submarine that fast

Where is the Turkish Frigates ‼‼ Which is from the Top 5 from every aspect

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Under development

@GeoBBB123

4 жыл бұрын

In Mongolia

@Toyhub2345

4 жыл бұрын

Turkey only has good submarines, the rest of their fleet is not that great

@clitoralrosary9474

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck Turkey.

Glaubt ihr wirklich das die Leute nicht selber lesen können? Aber wahrscheinlich wollt ihr nur das Video in die länge ziehen um KOHLE zu machen.

Pakistan Navy buy four ,type054A frigate from chaina

chinas long range missiles can finish the top 9 off easily

@DarthDesigner

4 жыл бұрын

Not so sure but maybe you're right :D