The Beautiful Lies of Sound Design | Tasos Frantzolas | TEDxAthens
From gunshots in a canyon to underwater submarine engines, this audio-rich talk explores the role of sound design in modern storytelling.
Soundsnap.com founder Tasos Frantzolas looks at a variety of multimedia examples to show the ways that sound designers ‘lie’ in creating the sonic palette of film, television and interactive media.
Tasos Frantzolas grew up in Athens and began producing music at the age of 13. After attending SAE London for Audio Engineering, he enjoyed a brief stint in the UK’s music and post-production industries. In 2006, he returned to Greece to found Soundsnap.com, a sound effects and loop library that has since grown to encompass over one million users and become the most popular sound effects destination worldwide.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
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Sound design and Foley is a great job; when working with animations you create the world from nothing, letting your creativity and imagination flow. I remember my first attempt at composing music and organising sound design for an animation project of a university student a year above. One of the things I needed to do was to recreate the sound of a sword being drawn to go in tandem with the demon onscreen revealing his claws (directors decision). I could've called a friend who has a katana but I wanted to be creative. So I got a butter knife and a sharpening stone and dragged the knife across it for the main sound, then took a wine glass and flicked it for the 'ding' of the claw tips. Putting them together I got a good result, and from that moment on I got hooked. Since then I've taken up a part time job of creating sound design and composing music for short films and I'm having the time of my life.
@thomaswilliams6869
7 жыл бұрын
DJ Shuffle r u a foley artist?
@thomaswilliams6869
7 жыл бұрын
DJ Shuffle did u hav to get a degree of some kind? Or is it on the job training
@HarmonicaMustang
7 жыл бұрын
Its sort of both. I studied Audio Production which included a brief overview of Foley and Sound Design. After doing some research I bought some equipment (portable recorder and a shotgun microphone) and began experimenting. My university also did courses in film production and animation, so I teamed up with a few students who were also experimenting with different techniques and had lots of small projects that didn't lead anywhere. I asked them if I could record Foley and create Sound Design for their test projects, to which they happily agreed. Next thing I know, they began working on their major projects and required sound. They remembered me and asked if I was willing to participate. Up to this point I gathered enough experience to know what I'm doing and how to achieve certain effects. I agreed and we got some great films and animations together. Using their work as examples of past work, I asked around local post production studios and I managed to find a place. I got further training from a fellow experienced Foley artist working there, which mainly included breathing techniques (to minimise interference) and fine tuning my synchronisation.
@thomaswilliams6869
7 жыл бұрын
thanks!! where abouts are u based?
@sebaba001
7 жыл бұрын
Any shotgun will do, in fact, almost any decent mic will do. How your room sounds is 100 times more important than your mic. Little noise, little reverberation/echo is what you're looking for, with a solid floor (if your house is made of wood it's gonna be trouble, your footsteps are always gonna have some extra boxy low-mids). Best tip to learn foley is to see someone else do it. So ask for internships at any studio that does foley, or even people that do it independently. If there's a college in your city that teaches audio, at bare minimum one of the teachers probably does sound design as a freelancer, ask him if he needs an intern and that you will bring him coffee and tidy the place up and clean up the place if he teaches you. Work is cheaper than any college, and you learn more if your boss is good.
No layperson seems to understand how important sound design is in media but luckily they always seem to get their minds blown when you show them the inner workings of it. I love that bacon example
@hightaurusdoro2826
2 жыл бұрын
great now I'm hungry.
This is such an underrated video. This deserves more views.
But can you use rain sound for bacon video??? :D
@pontram
5 жыл бұрын
Of course you can. You can also use silence for bacon frying video. Creates a lot of tension with you and the producer, and the director, and finally, the audience (if it happens to have one) ;-)
@tiberiu_nicolae
5 жыл бұрын
I did some experiments so here are my results: DO NOT FRY BACON IN THE RAIN
@OfficialStevenCravis
5 жыл бұрын
Belated LOL, *Justinas Nargela* - Good one! (I'm late to this video as you can see).
Only thing I found tougher than doing sound design (Foley) for a film, is doing it LIVE with a full-house audience during a live production. Timing must be perfect every time to prevent spoiling a scene. Wizard of Oz required 35 sound effects which I created from scratch, and used the original film script for the play. Wrote special software to cue each effect for instant play.
"I actually lied, they're all bacon..." [thunderous applause] is really quite cracking me up right now
@Depuratumba
6 жыл бұрын
I would like to make an edit where right after he says that, it cuts to the ending with him saying "Thank You"
@Kolutic4723
5 жыл бұрын
Guido Flichman It's been seven months, where is it
@abrampainter3764
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm imagining someone literally waiting 7 months to see if the edit was was made, checking back every few weeks hoping to god the comment hasn't been buried by comments like "Fart at 00:12" and "MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD" (which is the only true thing that's been said thus far), only to get frustrated enough after 7 months to write, "It's been seven months! WHERE IS IT!!!!!???"
@kiaeshghi6999
3 жыл бұрын
@@abrampainter3764 waiting for this edit tbh
@maddywade5081
3 жыл бұрын
that wasn't real applause.
by far the best TED talk about sound
@AdamBechtol
6 жыл бұрын
Well, there was that one along time ago where the guy focuses and directs sound across the audience with some device, that was neat
@DhirajKyawal
6 жыл бұрын
+Adam Bechtol Interesting. What was it called?
@archologyzero
6 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture had me trying to clean my phone screen for five minutes
So fascinated by sound now!!! crazy what the film industry can do with it, it is so creative
I put this recommendation on a list, I knew it was going to be quite useful and, I wasn't wrong: As music producer, I've found his assertion to the sound design as as language and how it plays around illusion very enlightening.
As a sound designer I bet he's mad at his microphone when he's talking.
@oysteinsoreide4323
3 жыл бұрын
It was adequate. But of course not perfect. But was only the words that were important. It was not a vocal in a musical piece. A narrator versus vocals in movies or music has very different requirements. Accuracy is not important in speech. But clearness and easy to discern words are. In my mind the only negative about the sound on his mike was because it was placed slightly too close to the airflow from the mouth creating popping sounds.
@natepelham9028
3 жыл бұрын
@@brysenbowie4024 Thats an invasion of her privacy, bud. Not a good look
This is one of the best presentation ever....and the audience haven't grown to understand it...
Thanks for doing this seminar. I am presenting at Texas Frightmare this year on horror film sound. Some of your vocabulary and terms for describing sound were very inspiring. Indy film sound is quite messy and many just kick it to the curb, do not budget, and sometimes think of it as a red headed step child to the point of disrespect. I'm struggling a bit with having to be diplomatic to my film maker audience while trying to bridge the gap between director and mix engineer. We have so many misconseptions and problems.
@aspirestudios8167
6 жыл бұрын
are you in Texas? if so, I gotta chat with you re: sound design :-)
@Spiderhip
5 жыл бұрын
My newborn baby's screams are perfectly suitable for sudden scared woman scream sounds. He starts with whining like engine sounds before the drag race. At around 4th or 5th step he makes his peak sound which is that screams. :D
@Spiderhip
5 жыл бұрын
Oh and I believe with a little bit editing, you can make lots of usefull sound effects from his long and juicy farts :D
"- Don't you hate that? - Hate what? - Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullshit in order to be comfortable? - I don't know. That's a good question." btw I love to simply listen to movies without the picture, draws my attention to more details, I recommend it...
@jp3813
2 жыл бұрын
Never let anyone tell you that cinema is exclusively a visual medium.
Thank you that was VERY INTERESTING! Every day we are confronted with and surrounded by sound and never really recognize how much it impacts our feelings and thoughts!
Can we take a moment to appreciate the stage decor?
Best Presentation On Sound I Seen So Far
You did great Tasos! thank you for shearing the knowledge.
This is quite encouraging for anybody looking to get into sound business.
Yes , sounds and music are powerfull. But most powerfull is the creativity associated. Creativity often comes when you take an idea from its original context and you move it somewhere else; it's amazing. I love the magic moment where things are different and interesting but stay in the same format .
Sir, I love creating foleys and just enjoy providing, setting and mixing sound effects and ambience and all to a video... and whosoever had watched my work, they were shocked at my perfection. SHOULD I CHOOSE THIS PASSION AS MY CARRIER ??? and if YES, WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST !!???
This made my day honestly
He has so many ideas to keep my concentration. I love this ted.
Love this! Plan for weekend: Make ambient tracks.
Fascinating Ted Talk. Excellent job Tasos Fratzolas. Thank you!
brilliant talk. very encouraging re: truth vs lies haha I'm in the process designing the sound for my short film (genre: war) and the various elements are just mind boggling.
i have been making a movie and i do believe this helped me a lot. well done presentation.
This was great! An invitation to appreciate and PLAY with perception. I liked the juxtaposition of the baby and the congas.
The bit on the dynamic contrast... the play between loudness and silence can't be overstated.
This is a great explanation for film editors
I love foley art 💖
That was fun, thanks and God Bless! 😊🙏🏻❤
08:00 "A real big one": that was when - listening in the kitchen, windows opened - church bells started ringing outside
My life will never be the same !!
If anyone is interested, the movie "Stoker" had some amazing sound design in my opinion
In summary: *_MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD_*
excellent and inspiring
Dropin gems left and right
such amazing clip for sound define
awsome man .great lessons
Frank Serafine is a legend! Glad to hear his name.
Thank you so much.❤
Boom~ its cool for my interview questions ~ well ~ keep enjoy ~😉
I'm adding this video to my lecture on Radio and Movie appreciation.
Great talk! I should join a TEDx when I come to Athens next time :-)
This is great! thanks!!
Great talk to, among other things, get someone interested in sound design.
Very entertaining and informative video.
Where is the best place to study a degree of Sound Design? Thank you.
Watching this for the second time cuz I forgot I already did. Still, absolutely worth watching again
Wonderful talk!
Beautiful presentation.బాగుంది.మెచ్చుకుంటున్నాను.
sounds like he put a laugh track in here?....
@julioflores8352
7 жыл бұрын
Sound Design...
@D3TOSS
7 жыл бұрын
too much gate...
@gerritgenis1685
6 жыл бұрын
That's because of the noise gate. Pretty badly set up
@BlackinVegas
6 жыл бұрын
ok now I know I'm not the only one
@iemgote7249
5 жыл бұрын
I'd think HE out of all people would do a better job, so it's the noise gate.
Silence is golden
@OliverOsborneMusic
5 жыл бұрын
Also bacon.
this was awesome & inspiring !!!
One of The best i have ever watched
Ok this is the best ted talk i've seen )))
This is awesome.
Lovely!
Learned so much from this video. 🤯
“we can now make this gunshot sound like it was recorded inside a bathroom- a church-- an elementary school”
So was the applause at the end rain?
@OliverOsborneMusic
5 жыл бұрын
Bacon
Sometimes they push it too far. Like when National Geographic makes a hyena getting bit by a lion cry out using a canned moose call.
Very funny guy, and interesting talk. That was a good moment to witness.
Love it....very interesting...nice...thanks.
Awesome talk. Thanks.
I too stab cabbages
@OthO67
6 жыл бұрын
DaikFlowkes DaikFlowkes & The Cabbage Stabbers would make a great band name. 😎
Thank you Tasos
Best commercial for a website ever.
love me some good foley
Takes me back to foley work in my degree, and treading in a tray of corn flakes (any brand will suffice) to replicate the sound of walking in deep snow...
"Recording of time square" where's the trick? I've never been in Times Square, but I'm pretty sure that if you turn on a mic there by chance you won't get a perfect car honk.
Pretty bad sound for a video about sound design..
@EminoMeneko
5 жыл бұрын
No.
@itssmee1597
5 жыл бұрын
@@EminoMeneko yes
@skyleraloe4072
4 жыл бұрын
😂😭 true!
@Sharkistas
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same hahaha
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I'm an amateur mixing engineer. I found this very interesting and somewhat correlated to what I do.
What an eye/ear opener
wooow..............learned alot
nice talk.
I believe the reason people think fake sounds are more real is because they've been conditioned over the decades by fake sounds. It's like if you only ever taste artificial banana flavor, and then eat a real banana, it wouldn't taste right to you.
@jeremyhume5563
5 жыл бұрын
Wow.. ..for whatever reason, I read your comment and read "fart" sounds (instead of "fake"), not once.....but twice - reading it at the end of the first sentence. Needless to say, my version of the comment was much more entertaining.
@turnerofwheels
5 жыл бұрын
There's a surprisingly non-subjective and technical answer to your question. Both sounds are made out of many tiny random events: rain sounds are made of thousands of raindrops impacting. Bacon, hundreds, perhaps thousands of tiny bubbles splattering. Both are in a similar frequency range. So you have two sounds that share the similarity of being a composite of many tiny random events, and what you hear is the result of all of that. These can be modeled as stochastic (random events in a fixed range over time) processes and you can simulate a lot of sounds pretty easily with common stochastic sound design tools, from applause, to leaves in trees to fire (think of what the sound of plastic crumpling is made of--many tiny creaking sounds, whereas fire is made of many tiny cracks as gas escapes the wood etc). Stochastic sounds are found throughout the natural and manmade world and there's been research into this since the mid 20th century, starting with Iannis Xenakis. So yeah, this isn't just because of deception--the sounds share real similarities in their properties. You can also use rice to simulate the sounds of rain quite effectively, for the same reason--just put a bunch of dry grains in a container and shake it around. Sound designers have used this trick for decades.
@anispm7508
4 жыл бұрын
The point makes a lot of sense. That's true. But how we are conditioned so..? is a question worth consideration..We always are fed up with the shabby boring life..We keep looking for fantasy..Something that has more effect in our sense than real. Cinema definitely is designed for fantasy. Real elements are very cleverly blended with this design to outsmart the brain of audience.
@GameyRaccoon
4 жыл бұрын
The reason artificial banana flavor tastes different is because its supposed to taste like an extinct species of banana. Today's bananas are called cavendish bananas and taste completely different. So, not the best analogy
so nice
For a talk about sound design (or any live event, honestly) - why in the world was his dialogue gated in this edit?
who else thought that this was going to be about serum???
@andre4768
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
Fantastic :)
Brilliantly explained the meaning of sound, i want to more about meaning behind the sound as the example of breaking of glass depicts breaking of relationship is sow. Kindly help me with the links where i can study more about it.
This is great for anyone who knows nothing about post production and humor.
Nice!
For a video about sound, you'd think they would have worked out a way to reduce the vocal popping.
Awesome
Nice to know.
Speaking about sound, his microphone records plosives and there is some Larsen effect...;) Great video though!
Thank god I had headphones, I could hear that it was all bacon :D That talk was awesome, I'm gonna implement that
my best friend REVEEEEEEEERB
did he just took the bacon vs rain video from youtube and didn't even bother to edit? noice
Art never meant to be identical to reality, but a (free, hence, artistic) interpretation of life's moments. Like a pic from a camera. It hasn't to be exactly same as the real thing (it has no sense). Thus, a painting of a real image, a record of a sound, are interpretations of reality, not reality itself. We don't copy, we transform. The most you transform a sound recording, photo, or describe with lyrics a moment of life, you're creating Art. Calling it a lie or deception is foolish. Sound design or Foley, in a movie is a true art, when people try to record in their homestudios for the first time, they start to realize HOW difficult is to record something decent, clear, clean, and artistic ''in situ''. For a movie, recording a sound in the same place where are the actors, cameras, assistants, etc, is impossible: you need to isolate the soundsource without background noises, and that's only possible in a professional studio with sound isolation treatment (that costs lots of money).
I'm so sorry for this comment .... I really LOVEDDDDDDD the presentation..... But was that a fart at 9:09 🤣🤣🤣
now this is epic
dope
Your favorite AFX? I loved you before you said it, but adore you after!
When did TEDx came in Athens??? D:
Good presentation !!!
Great speech!very enlightening!