This is a video for Chris to explain to his wife why he needed a new firearm.

@Kevin-kb8gj

3 жыл бұрын

Boom, roasted!

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

"I already had this lower" = not a new firearm :D

@OutsideTheTargetDemographic

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner^^^ and judging by this reply, we can see this isn't his first rodeo.

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner nothing beats the Uzi Pro with a side folding stock.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz

3 жыл бұрын

@@jond5939 TP9

I'm an apartment dweller, and I might be evacuated from my building, so I just want a way to take one of my rifles with me while filing out with a large crowd of other people. That means a broken down 16" AR15 is entirely viable. Just pointing out the "backpack gun" concept has some realistic contexts.

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that makes sense. For your context, you could get away with a much bigger backpack/bag since you're not looking at a strictly EDC use case.

@Predalien195

3 жыл бұрын

The concept of a backpack gun in regards to the context has been around for a long time. Think about a bug out bag... Most people live in urban environments and in situations like that they don't want it to be a massive obviously large gun bag. Overall, there are plenty of realistic scenarios I could imagine where it may be useful.

@charlesrudd3886

3 жыл бұрын

If you're looking at preparing for a SHTF bug out situation you could keep your rifle in standard long format and invest in a good sling and a loose body cover like a serape.

@lolcatyt2066

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesrudd3886 With the serape you will need one of those little cigars. And lessons how to squint. and don't forget the jingling spurs.

@cdgonepotatoes4219

3 жыл бұрын

@@Predalien195 at the same time, bug out bags have been criticized as a bogus way to think about stuff because a home base will always be far better than going around doing whatever in the woods. A "get home" bag with the objective of bringing you safely home where you have a normal size rifle is ways better, you just have to imagine "home" could be as foreign as a motel or your car (where you will have your vehicle bag). If you're in trouble, your absolute first objective will always be to get away and to safety.

Remember, switching to your sidearm is always quicker than pulling out your backpack gun

@chrisfarr6955

2 жыл бұрын

My plan would be to use a high capacity handgun to buy me time to get to my truck gun….

@nemo5335

9 ай бұрын

Remember, even the worst rifle is better than the best pistol.

@robertneal3364

8 ай бұрын

@@nemo5335 idk ab that one bro

@perikoglopez6276

8 ай бұрын

​@nemo5335 tell that to my boy in greenwood

@perikoglopez6276

8 ай бұрын

🤫🤫

I remember as a child seeing the "corporals killing" on TV. It was when two soldiers in Northern Ireland took a wrong turn, and a mob quickly descended on them. They were both armed AND fired their weapons, but it took literally seconds for them to be dragged from the car and disarmed by the mob. Pretty scary situation.

@painfulorwhat8872

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that.

@rickdeckard1075

2 жыл бұрын

@@painfulorwhat8872 sounds like the typical MI6 false flag... "took a wrong turn"? lol not likely.

@jcee2259

Жыл бұрын

Haiti welcomes any foreigner with cash to lose. At best a pre-paid departure flight will allow boarding of anyone stripped naked by Haitians with nothing else to lose.

@weareallbeingwatched4602

27 күн бұрын

​@@rickdeckard1075the irish are that deadly, I can assure you. One headbutt can kill, and my boys are the London Irish, not the Dublin business.

@rickdeckard1075

27 күн бұрын

@@weareallbeingwatched4602 except they all work/ed for the Crown, paid by MI5/6 to terrorize their own people. now theyre not even needed anymore, as the irish, british, etc citizens enact their own deathwish and let their freemason cops run muslim gangs that traffic their kids.

Guy that literally works for an ammo company: "My range ammo supply is low right now" Everyone else: Wait, WHAT?!

@Not_Mussolini_

3 жыл бұрын

@@ReptilianLepton Sir, this is Wendy's.

@garybrown422

3 жыл бұрын

I walked into a Sportsman's Warehouse to see if they had a bore sight for a 9mm. Long story short i saw they had ammo. 200 rd boxes naturally got my juices flowing. I bought them before i realized the price. $150 after taxes. 70 cents a round is just to much. I'm keeping them but God bless Academy sports and Bass pro shops.. Shooters love you guys. $99.95 for the same ammo at Academy.

@TupDigital

2 жыл бұрын

As opposed to the people who _figuratively_ work for an ammo company, people.

And this is one main reason I keep coming back to this channel for your videos; you stay away from the alarmist, unrealistic doom & gloom hysteria of so many gun-related channels nowadays and make rational, logical points about not only firearm use but social interactions in general. Many thanks, your reasoned approach is very refreshing and much needed in these weird times.

I personally take a Bazooka to the office. When people ask me about it, i simply tell them that it's my bong.

@K1NGK0NG404

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

There is something to be said about "Show of Force". A PDW greatly increases that over a standard pistol.

@jcee2259

Жыл бұрын

Lawyer-up, because why wait for your free telephone call after any arrest ?

@jcee2259

Жыл бұрын

Retainer rates might be cheaper than your next search for a get out of jail card.

@kylelever

Жыл бұрын

​@@jcee2259Confused. Why do I need a lawyer for a legal weapon?

@rickybobby8224

Жыл бұрын

@@kylelever sorry bro but if you are confused then you got issues my man. Same thing with your show of force comment. As we have already seen that show of force makes others see you as a threat or opportunity. Just look what Kyle Rittenhouse went through because he was carrying a long gun. Lucky for him the rioters were incompetent or he'd be dead and the jury came out in his favor.

@noonenoesbutme

6 ай бұрын

​@@jcee2259literally had nothing to do with this comment wtf bro.

20 round ar mags are great for maneuverability. I have used them as my initial magazine quite a bit on vehicle crews while I was enlisted. Love em

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

They really do make a big difference in how the gun handles and how/where you can stash it. I wish they were more common.

@JaronActual

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner More common as in more used by people or more available? I see 20-round Lancers available all the time ( and have a couple myself ).

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

@Jaron More common as in more popular so as to demand more options from manufacturers. The 20-round PMAGs were somewhat problematic for a long time, for example. And still no windowed 20-rd PMAGs or 300 BLK-specific 20-rd PMAGs. Lancer mags are decent, but I hate how difficult they are to insert on a closed bolt, even when down-loaded by a couple of rounds.

@dfl19034

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner regarding the 20 rnd PMAG issues; are those issues for both the Gen2 and Gen3?

@Chalz108

3 жыл бұрын

I have a few 20 round mags for this reason. For instance my AR won't fit in my ATV rifle rack with a 30 round mag but will with a 20.

The only thing I learned in this video is that “switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading” Captain Price was right all along

@B.V.Luminous

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I like drum magazines 😆

@adamr9720

3 жыл бұрын

Watch those corners!

@Legatus2kx

3 жыл бұрын

That's something a lot of people don't really train on, and try to become super speed reloaders and mess up during the process.

@magasaurus7210

3 жыл бұрын

60 round PMAG drums are perfect for a backpack setup

@tacticaltruth6Actual

3 жыл бұрын

@@B.V.Luminous " This is why I like drum magazines 😆 " Too heavy and not reliable.

I like how you’re actually rational and cover all bases in your reasoning and thinking.

Top notch channel! You're easy to listen to, dont ramble, have interesting topics. Quickly becoming one of my favorite GunTubers. If you want some criticism, more B roll please, most videos are just shots of you talking to us from across a table. Thanks for the quality content.

My backpack gun: gently used CZ Scorpion that came with upgrades grip and safety lever, tailhook brace, and 6 mags for $750...😁

@atomicsmith

3 жыл бұрын

That's a screaming deal!

@tommcfarland5368

3 жыл бұрын

I have a standard cz evo, do they fit in a backpack?

@ttropp

3 жыл бұрын

Tom Mcfarland My Evo is SBR’d and its 16” when folded. I have a mess. bag that I carry it in along with mags and a SiCo Osprey suppressor.

@brandonedwards1057

3 жыл бұрын

@@tommcfarland5368 with the tailhook brace folded, it fits nicely in a backpack.

@amusedcookie

3 жыл бұрын

Damn lucky

An excellent, common sense discussion about this subject! While we all pray that we never have to use a firearm for protection, things happen that are out of our control. As a retired LEO who has been in that situation, we hope for the best but train, plan, and prepare for the worst. Great content and information. Please keep driving this type of information in your video. Thanks.

The first 8 minutes of this video is the most fair I've seen when seeking information about firearms in general. Great job man!

I already respected the hell out of this channel, but this video really heightened that respect. Thank you for putting a lot of thought into what you say beforehand.

"Just like everybody else my supply of range ammo is looking pretty sad these days" - Lucky Gunner Ammo, an online ammo seller in 2020. :(

@kirk2767

3 жыл бұрын

I guess he's following the adage: "Don't get high on your own supply."

@mitubogoogle

3 жыл бұрын

😀

@Matt_The_Hugenot

3 жыл бұрын

Meaning I'm not going to burn up all my stock when I could be selling it to you people.

@j.t.4072

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matt_The_Hugenot What stock? I've been checking several times a day and they've had no 9mm, 45acp, 223 or 5.56. Crazy stuff.

@Matt_The_Hugenot

3 жыл бұрын

@@j.t.4072 They've got stock as I type, though the crazy price stuff.

Chris, I’ve said it before- you’re knocking it out of the park, here. Great job.

Just wanted to say I like the level headed thoughts near the beginning , especially "If a long gun it's coming out of my bag, I've probably made some bad judgement calls before that point" (paraphrased)

Excellent, no stone left unturned. You covered it all. Hats off to Mr. Baker everybody!

Carson Daily looks really good. I didn’t know he was a rifle enthusiast.

@ronniehardison8712

3 жыл бұрын

THAT is FUNNY!!

@SB-ts2ro

3 жыл бұрын

😭

@bryanzen300

3 жыл бұрын

omg I was looking for this comment XD

@1101agaoj

3 жыл бұрын

You haven't seen a picture of Czar Nicholas II...could be family.

@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS

3 жыл бұрын

He's more of a shotgun dork, but he does look good for being so far out of MTV

I love the concept of this video, and would love to see it be a series! I've been debating the merits/cons of a backpack gun, and it seems like my thoughts on it are things you've taken into account for yourself, so I definitely would be in favor of seeing more content on this subject. Keep up the awesome work as always!

Thank you for the solid content. The detail you go into on the topic is much appreciated. Keep up the great work!

I'll probably never have a backpack gun, but I loved learning about yours. Thank you!

I've been putting one together for the past 8 months. Started with the idea of suppressing a 300 blackout in a compact size. I incorporated a Law Tactical Folding adapter into it, and achieved just over 19" when folded (including the blast forwarder) with a 7.5" barrel. When my can gets out of NFA jail It will add a claimed 2.9" to the length. With the blast forwarder being about that long itself and being removed, I expect an overall length increase of only 2 inches or so. Fits in a single strap sling bag that's marketed for pickleball. Full length side unzip, draw, unfold, rack, and it's ready.

I can only imagine the time it takes from Chris to choose every word he says... and then translate into this clean video. I just say... thanks. As always

@lowkeyliberty7105

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... He's very well spoken, articulate, and logical. Good channel

All this honesty is just so cathartic and refreshing. 🇺🇸

I'll stick to my Shield for edc, but I did just build myself a 7.5" AR pistol which fits perfectly inside my Cannae duffle bag along with plenty of mags and my body armor. The entire bundle fits in the spare tire well in the back of my Jeep. I even have room in there for my tools and some food/water supplies.👍🏻🍻

It's really cool to hear you're from Knoxville. I go to UT and I am always happy to see so many prominent pro 2A influencers in Tennessee!

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Hey, neighbor!

@PhlippinPhil

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I had no idea! Love it. If you enjoy shooting steel, check out Windrock Park outdoor shooting range just outside of Knoxville. Im a member there and love it.

@thebondofunity

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner I'm out in Murfreesboro! Ever been to Middle TN?

@zedhiro6131

2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know I live down the road. Keep voting for Kane.😁

I hope CMMG makes adapter kits for the 20 round mags as well, I was thinking earlier in the video that the 30 round stuck out a bit far for the concept behind this rifle. Great video as always.

@timelessautoworks8415

3 жыл бұрын

I cut one of my adapters down and put it in a 20rd pmag. Hundreds of rounds later and no malfunctions. only drawback is that it is a little more complicated to install. LOL I just got to the part that he did the same thing but I didn't melt it back together.

@LuckyGunner

3 жыл бұрын

@Timeless Auto Works So you just hacked off the bottom and didn't bother with any of the internal floorplate and stuff? I was going to try that next, but wasn't sure if it would work.

@timelessautoworks8415

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyGunner I was going to put the bottom plate back on like you did but could not think of a reason that it actually needed it. I understand why they put it on, its impossible to install wrong. With the bottom all loose I must be really careful to put everything in the correct spot. The mag also holds 21 rounds now but I only put 20 in.

Thank you for adding another project to my huge list of things I wish I had the money for

Yes, I would be interested in seeing other backpack gun configurations that you may have.

Wow! Just Wow! That was the most complete and well thought out information on the topic I have seen and I find it informative and very valuable! Thank you! The only point we differ is if things have devolved to the point I need or want more than my sidearm, I want something more than a 9mm. I already have a 9mm and now I want to make some noise and present myself has highly dangerous and someone they want to leave alone. So a rifle caliber for me. Nice work! More please!

Thank you for discussing today's climate with just facts and absolutely NO POLITICAL bull or scare tactics. That's why I watch your videos (and buy your ammo with expensive shipping ;).

@RabidMortal1

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously? The whole premise of this is predicated on the politics of fear.

@Jaji813

3 жыл бұрын

@@RabidMortal1 fear is an emotion and has been embedded in us for legitimate reasons. If you don't believe me, try crossing a highway without looking.

I am also dying for a 20rd version of the cmmg mag. I just love the look!

I personally went with 300 blk, a 7.5" bull barrel, and a Maxim PDW stock. OAL is 21". I can side step through doorways while looking down the sights at the target without the barrel hitting the door frame. Also, a 125 grain 300blk round with a high powder loading should penetrate level 3a armor, a major advantage over 9mm. Not to mention significantly more muzzle energy.

Would love to see the other contenders for this project

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

Uzi Pro

@Matt_The_Hugenot

3 жыл бұрын

The biggest issue when choosing a bag gun is barrel length and the time it takes to get a tax stamp. Without waiting the main options to keep it small are a pistol brace with all its compromises, a folder like the Sub 2000 though that's blowback, or a bullpup. Personally I'd ditch the $1200 limit and no blowback limitation and get a PS90. Ideally SBR it and install a 10.4" barrel.

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matt_The_Hugenot I have tried various backpack guns over the years. So far the Uzi really fits the bill. And IWI has amazing customer service.

@Matt_The_Hugenot

3 жыл бұрын

@@jond5939 IWI only does the Pro version with a 4.5" barrel now, an odd looking pistol to put it politely.

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matt_The_Hugenot looks aren't really important to me. It is even more simple than an AK47. Has enough customization to make it whatever you want. And is able to go anywhere a full size handgun can go. It's a better sidearm than any pistol and able to be a decent mid range PDW that can go anywhere.

This instructor is scary competent and looks like “NEEGAN.”

@johnandstephanie377

3 жыл бұрын

He has always produced excellent, level headed and informative videos.

@forester057

3 жыл бұрын

Neegan mixed with Zac Efron lol

I live like 30 min from Knoxville in a tiny ass town in TN and I still carry every where every day. You never know brother 💯

This is probably and most informative video I have ever watched Thank you for your advanced edicate and vocabulary in how to explain the life and vulnerability of carrying a long gun Having a forward assist Brake on the front of the gun will help mitigate the sound compression (Concussion) on the ears best regards, Rick

Sub 2000 chambered in 9mm with glock 17 mags has been my go to.

@magasaurus7210

3 жыл бұрын

willy Jilly Great setup. Is it the one that folds in half?

@willyjilly9684

3 жыл бұрын

@@magasaurus7210 yes sir!

@RubberDucky8734

3 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@withinmyscope

3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually really confused why he didn't pick that one or something similar. Instead it looks like he spent about $800 more just because he doesn't like the mild inconvenience of blowback.

@willyjilly9684

3 жыл бұрын

@@withinmyscope Also confused why he would spend that much on a rifle that you cant keep a round chambered because its not drop safe +1 for the keltec sub 2000

You know things are getting bad when even the guy who works directly with an ammo retailer is having trouble getting ammo.

@str8.shooter533

3 жыл бұрын

^^ what you said! although it puts me to mind of that ancient Chinese proverb... "the best time to plant a tree is 30 years ago."

@Punishthefalse

3 жыл бұрын

@Norse Woodman Point and laugh at the Chinese communist regime that went through great lengths to purge their own Imperial history.

@scaredofghosts6813

3 жыл бұрын

@The league of whites theyll boil the non fresh water

Appreciate the info, great advice on restraint and recognizing a real threat with escape being the first option. Good solid advice

6:07.........thankyou!!!!! thankyou for being one of the ONLY "gun guys" I have seen acknowledge this very VERY real distinction

I want to see the others you tried bagging. Those 20s are great for bags.

10.5” AR-15,556 broken down fits perfectly in my 3day bag,3 30 rnd magizines go well with it.takes a few seconds to reassemble load and be ready

@Darkpara1

3 жыл бұрын

Just prepare to go deaf if you ever have to fire it

@jackieeastom8758

2 жыл бұрын

@@Darkpara1 ,lol! Already half deaf anyway. It’s not an issue when fighting for your life!

Wow, I can't believe that this dude without me realizing it convinced me to stay on the video for almost 30 mins. So, important takeaway, I learned a new brand of backpack. I'm digging the gun btw.

It sounds like we're talking about a firearm equivalent of a "get home bag". It's not meant to get you through the apocalypse (zombie or otherwise), but it's there for when the obstacles to your safely getting home are more severe than usual.

@conman1395

Жыл бұрын

So, an incredibly unrealistic scenario that most people don't carry the bag for anyway?

@zerstorer335

Жыл бұрын

@@conman1395 I don't know if it's "unrealistic" as much as its "unlikely". It's not like violent mobs are things of fiction that don't happen in real life. But it's not as though they happen with any particular degree of regularity, either. So it's not like getting ready for hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards or whatever kind of extreme weather may beset the areas where we live.

@georgewhitworth9742

6 ай бұрын

@@conman1395Given that the riots and how many (not all) protesters are willing to get violent with normal citizens trying to get home/on with their lives, I'd say it's not totally outside the relm of possibility.

Why not just go with a Sig MPX and skip the whole NFA nightmare. That’s what I would suggest.

@SandstormGT

3 жыл бұрын

$1500+ vs. $900 max?

@ronwilliams329

3 жыл бұрын

@@SandstormGT Most of the pistol configs on Broker are going for north of $2,000 some with 2-4% CC surcharge too. Good guns but I'll stick with my own custom builds. Paying top dollar ain't an issue for me most of the time but I don't like throwing it away either.

@tacticaltruth6Actual

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Or an MP5K like I carry.

@thenkk4914

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacticaltruth6Actual Mr.Moneybags here 😂

@richb2229

3 жыл бұрын

Tactical Truth MP5 is old school!

Backpack guns are an interesting concept. Seems pretty niche though. I agree it can do things easier than a Beretta 92. But I can actually CC my Beretta 92 (when the weather isn't so extremely hot). I think I'm likely to leave the backpack at home unless I feel I will actually need it. If I feel that way, I'm likely to stay home myself unless going out is extremely necessary.

@mitchellgolston2726

2 жыл бұрын

Well I was in California when their cities went up in flames my PSA ar9 came in handle trust me

@Fudmottin

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchellgolston2726 I have the AR-15 option for now.

Easily, one of the best "Lucky Gunner" thought out videos.

Great vid! Like the way you break it all down. Thanks for sharing your load out!

Looks like a new job for my CZ Scorpion w/ SB folding brace. And, 20 round mag. On the other hand, seems like a 300 Blackout pistol would be made for this set up. More firepower and the ammo is made for short barrels.

I there are NOT very many scenarios where taking out your long gun from your backpack and putting rounds downrange instead of retreating that also couldn't be handled by your concealed pistol. This backpack gun trend screams of manufacturers inventing a new market segment.

@tacticaltruth6Actual

3 жыл бұрын

My "backpack" firearm is my MP5K. It folds perfectly into my sling bag. The POU is when you need more sustained, accurate volumes of fire. It shares the same ammo as my side arm. HOWEVER, it is highly maneuverable, more accurate given 4 points of contact, holds more rounds (25-30), has a longer barrel (5.6 and 8.9) for better ballistics and longer sight radius and no significant felt recoil. Also, it uses a sling so you can go hands free and keep it ready without re-holstering. So if you really are getting into a prolonged/running gun battle this is a better option.

@BoleDaPole

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe if you work private security for a PMC or maybe even bodyguard work for VIPs.

@richb2229

3 жыл бұрын

Truth! Especially when there are options already available for those few specialists that really need to have a more offensive capability on hand. Bodyguards, armor car guards and a few others. In the case of mob violence, situational awareness I’d much better than a bag gun.

@rockhopper01

3 жыл бұрын

Plenty of situation preclude retreating. If I’m with my family, or a large group of kids. Also, not sure if you’ve been staying aware, but violence is increasing. Slowly, sure, but still increasing.

@ryanpeck3377

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure its manufactures, i think its more enthusiasts who are just coming up with excuses/direction for new builds. Guys who have a Home defense AR, Truck gun, shtf rifle etc and are saying i want to setup a new gun and not just another 16” AR .... I havent really seen manufacturers pushing “backpack guns” per se.

You put out some fantastic content, dude. Quality stuff.

My original bag gun was a 7" 300 BO pistol. I've now started to build a 9mm PCC. I have been very happy with my Olight PL 2 mini Valkyrie. It will be fitted with a Cry Havoc quick release barrel system vs using a law tactical side folder. Love the video great information, insight into carrying a bag gun and implications during a heightened threat scenarios.

For even more compactness and still having the advantage of an increased chance of putting rounds on target (and to look less like you're just out for trouble with an AR-type firearm), try a Glock 17/19 with an Endo Tactical adapter along with a pistol buffer/brace.

My backpack gun is cz scorpion micro. Love it.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz

3 жыл бұрын

Good choice. Do you use the magpul mags?

@ryankiesow8440

3 жыл бұрын

I have the PSA akv 9mm and it uses scorpion mags.

@mattwebster7835

3 жыл бұрын

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I have some of the magpul 35rnd mags they work great but I keep the 20rnd in the gun and 30-35roundeea for reloads

Great video. Personally, a 10.5" Brownell's BRN-180 upper paired with a folding stock/brace would make for a pretty good bag gun as well. It would be just as short as that AR9 and within $1200. I have a Sentinel Concepts Revelation II backpack and it fits this kind of setup perfectly. It also has a padded bottom to protect the muzzle and to prevent the bag from making a metallic "gun" sound when you place it on a hard surface. I have spoken to 3 different cops who've had to fire their patrol rifles indoors with no hearing protection and all have said that in the heat of the moment the blast was imperceptible to them, so that's something to consider. For something even more compact, a Sig P320 with the Flux MP17 chassis looks really promising. It weighs less than 3 pounds loaded, can fit a laptop sized bag and is borderline concealable under a thick jacket or raincoat.

New favorite! Concise. Thorough. Seriously....A fkn PLUS friend. A real breath of fresh air. The time spent on making it just that, is artful. Damn thats nice. And I'm talking about the info, and articulation, never mind the weapon. A genuine thank you🙏

Earned even more respect from me with this video! Keep it up

Love this content! Huge kudos!

Dude, your videos are SOLID! I love em!

I love that you put that like that to me I always say my first line of defense is my brain do everything not to get in a sketchy situation watch your surroundings pay attention.

Depending on your CC or sidearm, a Stern defense adapter might work well. I have Cx4 30rd mags for my pistol build, and regular 15rd for my 92fs. both mags are interchangeable between the guns, and although it does add some weight, I can also keep a regular lower while using the adapter.

While it certainly merits discussion, I think the scope where having a backpack gun is both merited and legally defensible is pretty narrow. I’m glad you touched on this. I’ll stick with my pistol EDC and just do my best steer clear of trouble. *Edit: I live in a city where rioting and looting have been happening.

@Darkpara1

3 жыл бұрын

A jury will take one look at that thing and be like "psycho walking around with that" so the only time this is really viable to bring out would be if shit really hit the fan. These days I'm just carrying a couple of extra spare pistol mags in my every day gear and vehicle.

@3PercentNeanderhal

3 жыл бұрын

Stay frosty

@farwalker3672

3 жыл бұрын

Vincent Langel Stay safe.

@cjdaking

3 жыл бұрын

Vincent Langel amen to just staying out of trouble. When you have a hammer everything starts to look like a nail

@SgtRudySmithbRet

3 жыл бұрын

Vinc - I'd say an SBR is the worst option. 1 if you use it the cops will take it 2 pain in the A$$ to transport across state lines, and even some cities.

Great video man, helping me narrow down decisions for my own bag gun

Great video! I hadn’t thought about this type option. I really like it. It makes a lot of sense in certain situations as opposed to only having a hand gun. It provides a much better opportunity to defend yourself in an area or possible situation especially in places more remote and possibly against multiple attackers or ones with rifles. I have been thinking about a home defense rifle and from a financial perspective I think this is a great solution as a first rifle choice. Giving me more options. Like a 2 in 1 for the moment. I can take more time before I buy something dedicated for my in home self defense. Thank you for the time you took to make this video for us!

Thanks for going in and making the distinction with the protesting/rioting/mobs, it really gives you a more nuanced view that a lot in the gun community don't have. Much appreciated.

I would like to see what the future holds for concepts like this. I'm still not on the PCC train, but with different, more powerful calibers in a similar compact package, I could be swayed.

@Paelorian

3 жыл бұрын

You could already get the gun in this video chambered in 10mm (mags might be different). Personally, I'd go with a rifle caliber and a quick-detach/attach silencer to fix the broken eardrums problem. If I have time to take off my backpack and pull it out, I probably have time to stick on the silencer and give it a twist (takes about a second, I reckon). Then it's quieter and has much better ballistics. An alternative would be to go the route of a folding handguard and barrel system. Then you could have a longer barrel, perhaps even an integrally suppressed barrel, without increasing overall length in the backpack. Again, probably taking an extra second to deploy. But with a longer barrel, it's quieter and has better ballistics and you could use a standard stock and buffer tube to save money. An alternative for even smaller bags is to make a little cube-shaped AR pistol: folding brace, folding forend with shirt barrel, QD silencer. Overall length under 10". Or you could go even smaller with other PDWs. A PS90 wouldn't be a bad option and holds 50rds in the mag. Last stop in PDW land before you get to conventional handguns is something like the B&T TP9, which is small enough to be holstered on the body if necessary and certainly fits in most common bags people carry. It would fit in almost any backpack or satchel or purse. Some people could even conceal it well enough with a shoulder holster and a jacket. Works well with a QD silencer if desired, which could be kept in the bag alongside it.

@stevenbobbybills

3 жыл бұрын

@@Paelorian if you're going to be considering something like an SBR'd PS90, we may as well go all-out price wise and consider an SP5 that has been SBR'd, with an SP5K being the logical option if you're going as small as you can go.

I like your presentation. You are sensible with your choices and not pushing your style. Thanks

Excellent & intelligently presented discussion on this topic - well done!

Kel-Tec Sub 2K w/ Glock 19 grip best combo with G19 or G26 one complements the other.

@DARTHDANSAN

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@Saku19

3 жыл бұрын

Is a Sub2K reliable enough though?

@tonymatulonis2136

3 жыл бұрын

@@Saku19 yes blowback design is simple and reliable. Has a threaded barrel for more options.

@DARTHDANSAN

3 жыл бұрын

Saku19 it works great for me . I also have a lot of the mcarbo upgrades that really make the sub 2k shine . I have the metal trigger , trigger spring kit and the mcarbo optic mount with red dot . I just need the muzzle break one day

@scdave100

3 жыл бұрын

@@DARTHDANSAN if you had to guess, how many rounds do you have through it?

I live in the Portland suburbs.. I’ll let you guess when I started carrying a bag gun.

@Funkmasterphat

3 жыл бұрын

I’m also I Portland. I carry a backpack gun as well

@AK3289

3 жыл бұрын

Funkmasterphat stay smart man and stay safe!

@AK3289

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Cabada no sense of security at all. Have to be smart, avoid any possible situation that’s puts you at risk while trying to work. Pray for peace but prepare for the alternative.

@AK3289

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Cabada couldn’t agree more. They’re already marching through residential neighborhoods. They’ll be in the burbs in less than a month.

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

@@AK3289 the real question is why are you still there?

Outstanding presentation! I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary. Semper Fi

A really good video. Very thoughtful, very informative. Good job.

When I was considering setting up a backpack gun, I struggled and failed in my project. You said something that made great sense, a backpack gun is a purpose built firearm, not a do all gun... Generally my firearms serve multiple roles, but for a backpack gun it needs to only be what it is... Thank you for your insight.

@jond5939

3 жыл бұрын

Uzi Pro

@RustyOpel

3 жыл бұрын

@@IlIlllIllIlIIIll Until you come across a non permitted "protest" on your way home? Not fully disagreeing with you, but preparing for all scenarios is prudent I'd think.

@andrewcramer7214

3 жыл бұрын

@@IlIlllIllIlIIIll Tons of fair points here, but it's not always police escalating, sometimes its a non-protester using the protest to hide their criminal activity, much like Chris said in the video. Agree 100% on all other points, except if you also call your backpack gun a truck gun, think Sutherland Springs shooting. There are plenty of scenarios where trouble can find you, and if it's not a burden to prepare for them, why not? That being said, my G48 and awareness are all I burden myself with at this point, definitely no backpack gun in my future. Maybe a truck gun someday though haha.

@hawkins71

3 жыл бұрын

@@IlIlllIllIlIIIll When I look at my use case, it is when I travel and hotel stays. It would be much easier to have something smaller than a 11.5' AR Pistol.

Got a Ruger PC Charger for this purpose and love it!

@megatron184

3 жыл бұрын

Dude that thing looks badass especially for the price! I'm glad to hear you like it.

@keithmiller2714

3 жыл бұрын

What do you use for Red dot and light?

@rclem87

3 жыл бұрын

Keith Miller right now just a cheep red dot and a olight I already had. Will upgrade down the road.

@rclem87

3 жыл бұрын

megatron184 yeah it’s a great gun for the money!

@curtisboynton

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Put a sig red dot and a folding brace. Thing is super sweet to shoot. Eventually I'll upgrade the trigger and add bigger controls, but the stock trigger is pretty decent already.

Good information, great job with the project for folks who may be in need of such a package.

Great review! A backpack carbine is my next project, and this video is extremely helpful. Thank you!

I’ll bet a law tactical folder would make that stock setup the perfect length of pull. Plus you could get the gun even shorter if needed.

One piece of advice that I’ve read that resonates with me is “don’t hang around to watch the show.” That is as true of a criminal attack on a third party as it is of a protest. If I see something that looks like it might go south, I GTFO immediately. The best way to win a fight is to not be there. Two people involved in a domestic? Call the police and GTFO. Three police cars involved in a traffic stop? GTFO. Demonstrators protesting? GTFO. The local baseball team having a parade because they won the pennant? I read about the planned parade the day before and I’m long gone.

@Scientist_Salarian

3 жыл бұрын

This, right here. Dead on.

@Wardinson

3 жыл бұрын

cowardly

@Washius

3 жыл бұрын

Come on, you apes! Do you wanta live forever!? -Some soldier in 1918

Very educational and very well organized content!

I’ve got a FM AR9 I absolutely love. Will have to look into that shorter stock. My woman told me 2” makes a huge difference.

My back pack gun has been the Kel-tec sub 2k Gen 2, it’s great for pairing with the Glock 17 or even G19 as they have compatible mags, great gun for the price and not to mention the ammo capacity options for it lol

@augustshades

6 ай бұрын

do you still have the sub2k? does it still work?

Even though I can't play the guitar, I regularly carry a guitar case 😎

@zedhiro6131

2 жыл бұрын

Beware bro, guitars are expensive and people have been known to swipe them.

This video came out right before I decided I really wanted to build a rifle--specifically an AR-15. I'm not sure if it had any impact on that decision, but that's why I came back: to find out. Looking forward to watching part one in a new light and then seeing how big of a difference there could have been had I decided against an AR build (I have the opposite of regrets).

Knoxville, so cool. My ole stomping grounds. I have a place in Mascot and Powell Valley Farm. Live in Poughkeepsie, NY and started feeling the need to started looking at your videos....

Chris, Great video! CMMG mentions that ejection port might need to be enlarged to run their RDB bolt. Did you modify your Aero Precision upper or did it work without mods? Keep the great videos coming.

@cincinnatus230

3 жыл бұрын

I've been wondering the same thing. He may have used the Aero Precision XL upper which comes with an already enlarged ejection port. Unfortunately they seem to be out of stock absolutely everywhere right now...

LAW Folder AR or MCX with a 6-8” barrel in .300 BLK Or, A SBR side folding AK in 7.62x39.

@MrGabrielJude

3 жыл бұрын

How about a Deadfoot arms MCS or SCW. On my 8.5” PSA 300blk, the scw4 makes it right at 21.5” OAL. Fits perfect in my Vertx gamut checkpoint.

@YenzHouse

3 жыл бұрын

Essentially what I said!!

@str8.shooter533

3 жыл бұрын

@@YenzHouse ^^Yes, that!

@buglepong

3 жыл бұрын

yep 30 cal for short barrell

Excellent articulation, keep up the great work.

I'm up in Seattle. They called Chaz/Chop a, "love festival". Drove through Portland as well last year. I agree, it's not, "Escape from New York", but I think we're at the top of that, "slippery slope". I also completely agree that most if not nearly all dangerous situations can be avoided.

This reminds me of those leather briefcases with a MP5 built into it or the Russian one with some kind of Russian SMG.

@stevenbobbybills

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, the HK Operational Briefcase. There were also a MAC versions of it for the M10 and M11.

I am running a Sig copper head in a “grey man” type backpack..It’s perfect for this application..People say its to small but I am infinitely more accurate shooting the copper head than any pistol I own..

@kerbalairforce8802

3 жыл бұрын

SBRs and AR pistols are plenty accurate for any distance that a court of law would believe as "self defense".

I bought a KelTec Sub2000 Gen II 9mm M&P version more than 3 years ago specifically as a backpack gun for my Jeep when I go camping and wheeling. Obviously works just as well in my truck. Easy to grab and go. I matched it with an M&P 9mm full size and can use the magazines in either the Sub2000 or the handgun. I can literally switch out on the spot. I have extended and 17-round magazines, it works out pretty well, and didn't break the bank.

I never watched gun videos until I came across yours. Very cool.

I've been running a backpack gun intermittently since 2014, whenever there have been riots or whatnot. One thing that I keep in mine that you may consider is a piece of soft body armor. I have a level 2A vest that can be (mostly) concealed under a t-shirt. If you have time to deploy your long gun, you probably also have time to throw on a vest. It doesn't take up much space or weight, but you'll be glad you have it.

@nottaexpert2690

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen Leatherback Gear backpacks? Plate carrier backpacks that separate into a makeshift vest and have plates front and rear. You can get them with soft panels or you can put in hard plates for up to level IV protection if you need it.

@charleschristianson2730

3 жыл бұрын

@@nottaexpert2690 Thanks for the recommendation! I just checked it out, and it looks like a good product. Not really my kind of thing, but I'm sure a lot of people will find value in it.

@saltyp7573

3 жыл бұрын

@@charleschristianson2730 I'd definitely recommend something with a plate in it. Alot of people are now packing 5.7 pistols. They defeat type III soft body armor, but bounce off any metal plate. I like my 5.7😜 9mm can defeat soft body armor with certain rounds, like fort Scott munitions TUI rounds.

@charleschristianson2730

3 жыл бұрын

@@saltyp7573Do you even carry a backpack gun, and if so do you ACTUALLY keep armor with plates in the same rig? Of course you don't.... I have vests with level IV plates set up for other occasions, but I don't see the practicality for this particular application. Nearly all shootings in the US are with common handgun calibers such as 9mm, .40, or .45. Plates would double the weight of the system, and it's already a low probability that I would have to deploy it. If things got super-hot, I would be running a full-size carbine with a combat loadout anyway, not a "backpack gun".

@saltyp7573

3 жыл бұрын

@@charleschristianson2730 actually yes my PC9 carbine fits perfectly in my backpack. No I don't use plates, I don't have ANY body armor. I'm not the one here saying that "I have a level 2A vest that can be (mostly) concealed under a T-shirt". That was all you. I just pointed out the fact that your 2A vest WON'T HELP AT ALL against most rounds today.👍

If its registered already, why not put a vfg on it. Ergonomically that might be better than useing the handgaurd.

More than the gun stuff, it's really nice to see a prominent voice in the community who frequently uses critical thinking and doesn't just peddle all the groupthinking that is common from gun youtubers

Always a great content!