If you or someone you know has ANY access to an Aston Martin Diagnostic tool (AMDS) please contact me samcracauto@gmail.com

@m.anejante1687

11 ай бұрын

Ussually data stored in electronic devices is also encrypted and encryption keys are stored in a different chip on the same board. Maybe they could'nt read the original chip's data because they didn't pulled the encription keys on the corresponding chip also

@Beer_Dad1975

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure how the dealer came to that figure - it's a "I don't want to deal with your hooptie, go away!" figure! 😀

@_CryptoNoob_

11 ай бұрын

Most likely it'll be simple NAND flash chip, or possibly a NOR chip, similar to let's say, a Playstation or something. It's simple memory, so it shouldn't really be too difficult to find someone

@g60force

11 ай бұрын

@@Beer_Dad1975 why do you reply that here that's not what he asked

@The_Sword3

11 ай бұрын

@@g60force It's a comment section, genius

Florida floods - keeping car KZreadrs in business

@woodbutcher5794

11 ай бұрын

Almost like watching the same show over and over again 😅

@superjuggie14

11 ай бұрын

Conspiracy theory: copart secretly is behind all of these videos

@adamk9652

11 ай бұрын

Yep I got my 80s-90s GM flood car guy, my Mclaren P1 guy and here is my obscure car guy

@dannsmcshane1233

11 ай бұрын

Defiantly

@sunsetlights100

11 ай бұрын

He'll make way more outa utube than what it cost to fix cars! J club

This is why we need to support "Right to Repair" laws so that dealers cannot continue to monopolize service/repair like this.

@kewlztertc5386

3 ай бұрын

I don't understand how RTR would apply here? You have every right to repair your car. Does RTR laws force dealers or MFGs to provide tool availability?

@jackm6307

2 ай бұрын

​@@kewlztertc5386 Can the general public even purchase such tools?

@kewlztertc5386

2 ай бұрын

@@jackm6307 only if manufacturers open the software. There's always third parties out there that can make the tools, but mfgs instantly claim intellectual property, and shut them down.

@mikeroberts8914

27 күн бұрын

Wasn’t this a big portion of the clusterF with Saab after GM bankrupted the iconic car manufacturer? (RIP, little jets)

@azynkron

23 күн бұрын

It's an Aston Martin. If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford to own one of these. End of story.

I’m sorry, but I think I may be bringing very unwelcome news. I’m a marine and auto electrician by trade, specialising in motor boat electrical system design and repair. In the marine world there are two common standards for wiring harnesses. For salt water craft, all wiring needs to be fully tinned and all connectors need to be gold plated, in order to ensure a reasonable service life. For fresh water, it’s much less stringent and plain copper wiring with brass or tinned connectors work fine, provided they’re kept dry. That’s important. If water manages to wick up along the wires, the plain copper quickly turns into green fur, as soon as a battery is connected. If the wiring is immersed in salt water, with the battery connected, the transition from copper to copper oxide happens so quickly you can see the water fizzing. This results in the total diameter of the copper strands reducing until it reaches zero, at which point the current can no longer pass, rendering the wire useless. All of this happens inside the pvc sheath, so you can’t actually see that the wire is broken, though if you remove the sheath, you’ll see the previously shiny copper is now black or even green and large chunks of it will have vanished entirely. I think you’ll have to bite the bullet and replace the harness. In truth, only those wires that were connected to a positive voltage will have suffered, but without a full schematic and unlimited time to play with it, you’ll struggle to identify which ones those are. A full replacement will be very expensive, but far less heartbreaking to fit. It will also eliminate residual salt left behind inside the wire sheathing, waiting for you to turn something on and expose it to positive charge, resulting in further breakdown of cables that are presently not damaged. You definitely don’t want to be paying dealer rates for that. You probably need to fully remove the interior, including the dash, in order to access all the connectors, which is not a quick job, even with dealership knowledge. My advice would be to bite the bullet, order a wiring harness from a dealership you have not had a row with, then spend a couple of weeks fitting it yourself and post videos of you doing it. You may even show up their estimate for what you clearly believe it to be… a scam! Only then will you be in a reasonable position to program the various ecus and get them talking to each other. Thanks to the power of YT, you should have found a way to do that, by then.

@ebaystars

11 күн бұрын

yep im british naval eng he's bought a salty lemon sadly

@spookscool

2 күн бұрын

Well explained, salt ingress is not only at the connectors. Wish I could find the end result of this video.

When I had my V8 Vantage, I'd go into the AM dealer near Seattle and tell them I needed parts to fix thing myself. I'd always get the eye roll and the "oh, it's you again....".🤣🤣🤣🤣

Might be worth having a word with an auto locksmith. They often pay for access to factory encryption data so they can program keys for dealers. They may also be able to do an 'all keys lost' reprogram if the keys are still good and are able to be programmed to another module. Probably new keys needed if not.

@gen.arnavpoe4633

10 ай бұрын

What a retard...call.a.lock Smith? 😂😂😂😂

Well done Sam, that dealer full story was wonderfully told!

@Samcrac

11 ай бұрын

I'd rather have had a more positive outcome story to tell

@dizcret

11 ай бұрын

Man, those 'Dealers' are just that...as low life scum as fentanyl "Dealers".

@henkholdingastate

10 ай бұрын

917 dollar for an relays????? crooks. Making money is becoming more and more a matter of how do I rob someone without going to jail. I'll be worried about the dealer.

@The_North0

7 ай бұрын

So you can’t fix it? I am seeing this car is back on auction

I come to this after being in dealership service for almost 30 years. Good luck. The damage to your recovered vehicle is extensive, and most dealerships really tend to stay away from flood cars. I remember a case back in the day, when a boatload of Porsches became flood vehicles. The insurance companies totaled all of them. There are tons of them out there in the aftermarket, the buyers often became married to them. I have read some of the other comments and very much agree with many of them. During my tenure in the business, I was for several years the Used Car Recon Manager. If they got past the buyer, which they seldom do, I had the tech confirm and the car was totaled. I want to watch you replace the wiring harness in the time that you mentioned.

The reason the dealer estimate is so high is because they think that they are the only option because they can't imagine a universe where a DBS owner would go to a pick your part and look through multiple Volvos trying to find the parts they need.

@ayo9057

11 ай бұрын

The reason is they don’t want to mess with it.

@chrisjones2224

10 ай бұрын

Worked as a claims engineer years ago, got a call from a main dealer demanding a brand new auto transmission, Okay why, what's wrong with it? We don't know, just supply a new unit. Our procedure was strip and inspect, not just replace, the dealer didn't have that ability, their reasoning was, they would like 2 techs while they were being trained, have to buy special tools from the manufacturer, if the techs quit, they would have to train someone else, and most importantly if they stripped and repaired the trans, they would be liable for 12 months if it failed, demanding a new unit, took the liability off them

@LynxStarAuto

9 ай бұрын

@@ayo9057bingo. That was a scare them away estimate. Too much liability in a loss like this. The dealer doesn't want to get married to the car. Then go through a war to get paid. I'm not knocking Sam, but you saw how he complained about the two hour charge? And they reduced it? So who do you think got screwed there? The mechanic (who probably gets paid 20-30 bucks an hour). A two hour charge is feasible in this case, because in a flood loss, everything gets thrown out the window. Direction is hard to surmise because everything is compromised. It wouldn't surprise me if they did invest at least an hour and a half in the vehicle chasing direction, and billed 2 hours which is standard industry practice.

@sentree9857

4 ай бұрын

@@LynxStarAutoI was thinking the same thing. 1 hour for the program *assuming vehicle arrives in somewhat “normal” condition. I work as a tech and imo the warranty and book times are assuming perfect world scenarios ie no one else has worked on the car and already screwed it up, previous damage, unusual circumstances, etc. Now that doesn’t mean many dealerships don’t have shady practices but it’s usually the tech and the customer getting screwed.

@alanedwards8144

3 ай бұрын

@@sentree9857❤😂

I would image right-to-repair laws would go a ways to helping issues like this.

@TheBorre

11 ай бұрын

​@@festuspunky what

@MrKnowwun

11 ай бұрын

Nope - its written off, and subsequent buyer wont have any right to repair.

@potatochobit

11 ай бұрын

he has every right to repair his salt water rust bucket. the dealer has every right not to lift a finger if he does not pay.

@miscbits6399

11 ай бұрын

@@MrKnowwun it doesn't work like that - and Sam should be able to source the programming kit from Europe as right to repair laws already exist here

@cup_and_cone

11 ай бұрын

Biden Admin just killed any chance of right to repair ever happening.

24:45 man, why wouldn't you just spend a little bit more time and grab the whole harness? that shit was perfect. Seems like it'd be a helluva lot more work soldering all those wires back together than just ripping the dash out of the junkyard car, you're probably gonna have to take your dash out anyway to solder those connections way up there. and you've been running power thru the car so who knows how far that corrosion has spread through the harness. I know a harness is more expensive than pigtails but christ, that's gotta be at least 100 wires.

@o.m383

11 ай бұрын

I was literally thinking the same thing ! those connectors were perfect

@jackpalczynski7884

11 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. Just take your time and even if you have to come back to finish it, take the whole thing

@Belal-Khan

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same, but the issue is that although the connectors are the same, the pin layout/modules are almost certainly different between the two cars. This way Sam can splice into the connections he needs right at the connector instead of guessing why things aren't working after replacing the entire harness.

@GSP-76

11 ай бұрын

​@@Belal-KhanI thought the harness was identical, wasn't it?

@Belal-Khan

11 ай бұрын

@@GSP-76 The connector was identical, but not too sure about the harness. Depending on what features are present on the Aston vs the Volvo, there may be additional or less wires on the actual harness. This is just an example, but since the Aston is a convertible it could have additional wires that go to some sort of motor/sensor that the Volvo doesn't have. In which case there would be additional wires on the harness for the Aston. This is all speculation, the harness could also be identical, but I'm saying that by removing that unknown, it is easier to troubleshoot. With just the connector, Sam can match up the wires and splice them together. If there are some missing, he can pin them right onto the connector directly instead of troubleshooting the Volvo harness.

Sam, you can take second hand CEM and connect to your car w/o starting the engine, so your mileage will be copied from DIM to CEM when you switch on the ignition. Then you need to reflash CEM (using dealer's tool) with your VIN before you start the car. There is also possible to copy your CEM content to fully functioning CEM if you want to keep your keys and do not have the seed codes attached, however this can be done by experienced programmers. Your donor CEM must have the same hardware number

@tylerh6315

11 ай бұрын

Pin this comment

@lightning5273

11 ай бұрын

Did you not watch the video? He already tried to copy the CEM, it's too far gone.

@DuvalDashCams

11 ай бұрын

This is exactly what he tried to do, however the existing CEM was to toasted to work

Take out the entire intact harness from the volvo, then add some aston martin bits to it. That way you will have a good complete harness. Also see if a volvo dealer could possibly program the cem for you. The encryption protocol should be the same.

Steel Wings in Ivyland PA has the AMDS. They do all my service on my DB9

The reason why they want to replace the entire wiring harness is because the wires that carry the data are internally corroded. Those wires delay the signal causing either no signal or a delayed signal inducing cross talk on the common data line. If I were doing it? I would pull the entire harness, order up the relevant connectors, some wire and some pinning supplies. Nail the old harness to a sheet of plywood and with two folks reading out wires on the old harness and making a new wiring diagram to copy, draw out the harness on the plywood, pull the old one off and retain it for QA, then start laying out the new wires, use some wire harness lacing, and cut, prep the wire, pin it, and install the pins in the new connector and go install it. IMO, its just a matter of time before other systems start having issues. Yeah, its cheaper doing it that way but it takes longer. A good boom box, an entertaining radio station, some pizza and cold drinks should be done in a day. That can only be a few hundred wires, easy job.

For those wondering why the cloning shop was desoldering the microprocessors then it looks like you need some code from those as well as the eeprom. Luis from yt channel LM Auto Repairs shows the cloning processes over on his channel for a volvo s40 I'll try and put a link in the reply to rhis comment. Luis really goes above and beyond to fix things and knows his stuff.

@robthomas7232

11 ай бұрын

In case the link gets removed the video is titled "Volvo S40 2006 CEM control module cloning/programming"

Any update on this bad boy? Curious to know the current status.

@Zootalaws

4 ай бұрын

I guessed as there were no more vid that the car was stripped and sold

@MiscerVids

2 ай бұрын

I came here looking for updates too

@mohamadristiyanto2705

Ай бұрын

@@MiscerVids me too

@johnsonbui

13 күн бұрын

Junk yard 90% ha ha

I-Scan tool, that's what you need. We use them to program Mercedes, BMW's and various other European makes. Vedis 3 I think. But they have newer versions available, it maybe something to look in too 🤔. As far as going back with those pigtails, look into Solder-Seal wire connectors. They turn a soldering and shrink tube Job, into a single step process!

A followup....Reading all the comments, I had to laugh..here you are with a multi 100K car, in a T shirt with dirty hands, with cattle around the car, and there you are in a "pick your part" lot...There is something SO right with this story...you are the best...A couple of years ago, my wife and I went in to a Porche/Audi dealer to buy an Audi..which we ultimately did that day...but the story is...we entered the Porsche side of the dealership showroom...A salesman approached us..I said I'm interested in an Audi...he looked down, and with a sarcastic voice said.."Oh, that's on the other side of the showroom"...My wife was ready to walk out...I said nope...here is a guy who probably can't even afford a brake job on an Audi, speaking to me in a condescending tone......Again, there is something so right with your video...keep it up!!!!!!!!

@Samcrac

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Have a word with pine hollow auto diagnostics. This guy is a legend for programming. he might be able to help with sourcing software to flash your module. He is also on you tube.

Thanks for the update regarding this project. I really hope that you get this ride going.

Sam, one way you might be able to find access to the information you need to flash your module is possibly to get connected with the local Aston Martin car club or owners association and maybe one of them might be willing to allow you to use their module just to clone it for your car Obviously it’s not hard to take the module out so that might be possible

@Elusive_Cure

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking about this too, cloning a module on top of doing an immo delete. I'm pretty sure there are independent volvo techs out there who have the right tools.

@blahorgaslisk7763

11 ай бұрын

@@Elusive_Cure With all the encryption used it's not sure that just having the right tools is enough. It may require a separate encryption key. The car manufacturers has gone mad with this crap.

@jonathanrees3765

11 ай бұрын

@@blahorgaslisk7763 With the age of the car there probably is no encryption. Encryption on car systems is fairly new.

@muskokamike127

11 ай бұрын

You shouldn't have to remove it, it could all be done through the communication port. That's how you program ECUs, and all other modules.

@muskokamike127

11 ай бұрын

@@blahorgaslisk7763 yeah they don't want anyone messing with their $40,000 invoice.

The moment we allowed software in our cars is the moment we lost the ownership of them.

@Lamster66

11 ай бұрын

We never allowed it, it was forced upon us

@SimpleEnigma331

11 ай бұрын

Ok you say that but this is important for security. It makes it so no one can roll up to you $200,000 Aston and reprogram your keys and computer and steal. Don't act like it isn't a valuable thing. Unless you wanna see the Kia boys upgrade their rides....

@Lamster66

11 ай бұрын

@@SimpleEnigma331 That might well be the case the problem is that you can't fix your car you can't do anything to your car unless "They" allow it. The point is it's still "Your" car. Not theirs I've just had to jump through hoops to fix the infotainment in my Audi. The Dealer wanted £5K to replace it another "specialist" wanted £1500 to fix it. I ended up paying £200 for a unit off Ebay and another £75 but that also needs Audi to give permission online to fit the Donor part. Then after that the Nav wasn't working and needed a Firmware and map updates Audi wanted another £600. Good job there are people on forums that let you download hacked versions for nothing. Audi make you feel like you've stolen the firmware and the maps. OK perhaps you have, but you had them to begin with as did the donor infotainment unit except Audi lock you out of them in the recoding process. Why? So they can extract more from your wallet by making it virtually impossible to repair what belongs to you without involving them. And this i what right to repair is all about!

@miguelvega7769

11 ай бұрын

@@SimpleEnigma331that shit still don’t add up, regardless it’s scam as is at dealers

@theParticleGod

11 ай бұрын

It doesn't have to be this way, there's nothing inherently evil about software in cars. You can for example, buy aftermarket ECUs for cars that will let you program them however you want, or you can crack the protection on the manufacturers ECUs and again, do pretty much whatever you want. The problem is that legislators think there's something magical about software that should allow the manufacturers to lock it down, and in the case of Tesla for example, then use that locked software to deny you access to features that are already in the car, even after you paid for it. There are multiple cases of Tesla revoking features like performance modes, supercharging and autopilot from second hand cars after they have been sold, and they're not the only ones - some BMWs have heated seats that you can't turn on without paying a monthly extortion fee. This is shaping up to be a big problem for consumer rights. Lawmakers would never put up with your manufacturer locking your hood shut with tamper proof bolts, or sending ninjas to come and intrude on your vehicle to sneak off with optional parts in the middle of the night, but for some reason that's okay if it's done with software. I notice they don't have the same attitude to people using computers to sneak into corporations and steal their stuff, in that case using software to steal gets you a harsher sentence. I guess you can't expect a bunch of 70 year old career politicians to understand technology.

This video is like an investigative report. You put a lot of effort and research into this project. Looking forward to seeing the next episode

I like how while he is fixing he explains what is happening too and not just do and don’t explain anything, I don’t know if other people like it but I like because I try to fix my car by myself so I like to learn

You should ask your UK connections to help you with the programming. I bet they can programme your module easier in the car tinker circuit than in the US. (dealers only)

See if you can find the guy who does programming for body shops. They don't have factory tools, but there are several companies who body shops hire to clear factory codes and program the ECU/modules that would normally be a dealership.

Sam is the Bob the Builder of car repair. 'Can we fix it?' Yes we can...love the can do spirit and that you didn't get mad at Rich for firing Stevon. That was sad. He'll be missed.

@hamldna

11 ай бұрын

WAIT, WHAT???????? Stevon got fired? When? How did you find out????

@SyrupCanuck

11 ай бұрын

What happened?

That CEM looks awfully similar to the BCMs that go in fords. Ive succesfully reprogrammed one from a ford focus max to go into a normal ford focus using ELM327 OBD2 cable and forscan software (free). You will need the 'as built' software package for the aston which you should be able to get online by providing the vin number. You should maybe give that a try?

@larrypinter3321

10 ай бұрын

I don't if looks like is enough. I am looking for a specific 1994 ford ecm. Ecm's from 6 years either side all look alike with almost similar part number, but they are totally incompatible. Considerations include whether it is an 8 cylinder or 6, automatic or manual, alarm system or not, courtesy lights, intermittent windscreen wipers....

Maybe a volvo dealership can help you out with the program you need. (Volvo and ford did make a collaboration for making this Austin Martin)

@potatochobit

11 ай бұрын

it costs 50,000$ for a dealership to license aston martin software per YEAR. maybe he should drive a honda if he does not want to pay for two hours of labor.

@K2489S

11 ай бұрын

@@potatochobit did you not watch the video? He brought it there expecting to pay. They wanted $40k to proceed.

@The_North0

11 ай бұрын

@@potatochobit Do you works for Aston Martin? Why are you being so nasty?

That is such a beautiful story you're telling. Like a mystery or thriller. You make this video very interesting. I'm pulling for you to solve this problem at a low price and show how those freaking dealership service people are scam artists. I'm totally looking forward to the next episode. I sure hope some of your online followers have the software to re-program that module. I could never go through what you are doing. It must take so much effort and having to work in all those nasty cars, breathing and touching all that moldy crap. Anyway, best of luck with this project.😂👍

@theParticleGod

11 ай бұрын

The real scam artists are the manufacturers who create this situation in the first place. Most modern cars require a dealership to bless any changes in the ignition/entry systems with their very, very expensive diagnostic tools. Moving everything to canbus has allowed them to code all sorts of parts that you wouldn't expect like central locking door modules and start buttons, so that they have to be either cloned or blessed with their software before they'll work when they're new to the car. You can either transplant EVERYTHING electronic from an identical donor car, find someone to clone the IDs, or have the dealer perform a ceremony at considerable expense on perfectly working parts so that they'll work for you. This is really a right-to-repair issue. It should be illegal for a manufacturer to restrict access to reprogramming and reprogramming tools by overcharging massively for them, it's a rort.

Sam, you’re good enough, you’re smart enough, and, gosh darn it, people like you!

I don't really care if Sam finishes his own projects or not, I'm here for the comedy and because Sam loves it when a dealership tries to sell him a part for $1000 and he gets the same part for $5 simply reading the part number... And if sometimes he starts with a story he doesn't finish and as a viewer it's slightly frustrating sometimes because you get attached to the project

Best bet is to splice the connectors and try a different dealer. The Volvo harness may be the same at the cem but no guarantee that it goes the same places and lengths, being a different car all together. Unless part numbers cross reference. An Aston dealer is probably the only one with access to the vin data needed to program even if you find someone else to do the flash. Right to repair is definitely needed to keep this from happening. Access to that data is the right of the owner.

"We don't need them, they need us" A lot of Corporate brands out there this statement applies to as well.

What ended up happening with this car?

Your persistence is legendary Sir

It's good that they allow you to cut the loom. At the scrapyards in my area, you can rarely just take parts/tails of a good loom without paying for the whole thing.

Dealer tech here, there is a lot more to dealers than I think you may realize. I work for a BMW dealer and a lot of the stuff you are describing is the same with my dealer. Because the dealer is a private entity, they can decide the prices on parts which is part of the reason for the high price tag. MSRP is just that, manufacturer SUGGESTED retail price. It’s a suggestion. Usually the parent company (in your case Aston, in my case BMW) is supposed to make sure the parts prices are fair to the customer while still giving some profit to the dealer but in both our cases it’s not what is happening. There are some parts at my dealer marked up over 200% of MSRP and I’m talking expensive stuff like transfer cases, it’s pretty outrageous. As for the labor, time and a half for any cash work is industry standard. Also because the wiring harness is for the CEM, it most likely routes all around the car. In the engine bay, in the trunk, and through the dash. They would essentially have to rip half the car apart just to install the whole thing, hence the high price tag. I’m not sure 60 hours is time and a half for a job like that but usually whatever times you see online are warranty times. Always expect to pay more for non warranty work

@Christoph-sd3zi

11 ай бұрын

A lot of tradespeople(plumbers, electricians, etc) do the same big markups on parts so it's not unique to car dealerships.

Dig the ingenuity and resourcefulness Sam, keep on keep'n on!!!

315MHz vs 433MHZ: Just a quick heads up in case you are buying keys or other hardware from outside the USA (or Japan): the frequency of the remote fobs will be different. I'm dealing with the same issue with a Hurricane Ian 2012 Virage that is now in the UK and this is an extra layer of complication.

@2747scout

5 ай бұрын

Shipped salvage Aston to UK?

I sure hope you complete the fix, and drive it back to that Dealership and show them how much it cost you to repair it.

@Intellistan

11 ай бұрын

Exactly

@ozzierabbit587

11 ай бұрын

I doubt the dealership would care.

@The_North0

11 ай бұрын

The dealer needs the money to put their kids through college.

@butcherbgrows4088

11 ай бұрын

@@The_North0tell me you’re the con at the dealer without telling me you’re the con at the dealer. 🤡

@butcherbgrows4088

11 ай бұрын

@@The_North0if them kids are anything like you no amount of college is going to help them.

The S40/V50 based on the Ford P1 platform (hence all the Ford parts) have a major issue with the sunroof drains blocking which causes interior flooding and it is very common.

@kensmechanicalaffair

11 ай бұрын

Yeesh, a family garbage affair.

@furryp2402

9 ай бұрын

Correct. The plastic hoses at the top of the A-pillars are too short and will shrink and leak over time. It ends up causing water to work it's way down to the floor.

I have a possible shot for you: Take the original faulty computer and let the chips containing flash memory or maybe just the flash memory being soldered over to the newer board. The chips have quite likely survived the moisture.

Always love your videos, I was also ripped off with a flooded 2017 Bentley Bentayga at the dealership. Spent about $120,000 at the dealership, and the bills never end. The Bentayga is parked at my garage with transmission issues. I'm learning from your content and will try to fix it outside of the dealership.

Sam loving this repair don't leave us hanging long please

It sounds like that dealership did you a favor. Now you know they lack character and are never worth dealing with even if you have a new Aston

@potatochobit

11 ай бұрын

who does not lack character? the mechanic bringing his OWN parts to another mechanic? hey man, why dont you bring your own pizza to pizza hut and ask them to cook it for you.

@JStryker7

11 ай бұрын

@@potatochobit the dealership charging more than book and not having an explanation. You sound like you work for the dealership or didn’t watch the video at all

@mikesinyaboot5992

11 ай бұрын

​.....The Target shopper, @potatochobit, above says that's it's totally normal and acceptable for dealerships/mechanics to charge double book time as standard practice. He/she/it is insanely delusional or simply a horrible person and mechanic that loves to scam people.

@blahorgaslisk7763

11 ай бұрын

@@mikesinyaboot5992 Unfortunately it's a situation where supply and demand is totally skewed. By locking in things like this programming of the control units they make it more or less impossible to get support from anywhere else, and by inflating the prices they keep away the "cheapskates'" that would drag down the image of the brand. You've shown how much of these cars are simple cheap parts from brands like Ford or even Volvo, one of the least glamorous car brands on the market. If they were to admit that the parts are cheap that would take away a lot of the mystique that surrounds these cars and devalue the brand in the eyes of the rich people they want to sell their cars to. Smoke and mirrors. That's what they sell.

@The_North0

11 ай бұрын

@@potatochobit why are you mad?

Hi Sam , I use to own a Ford Focus 2 mk 1 wich have simular bcm. After some electronic issues ive upgraded all componands for younger ones . I know for a fact that the internals of these bcms are not all the same and the configuration depends on the options the car was sold with. I had to copy the program from the pcm to my laptop en then flash it onto the new one . And if AM has the same layout as ford has . The key is programmed in the cluster ,not in the bcm. Eccept for the options the key can opperate . Ive used an elm 327 modifyed with a direct connection to pin 14 with a dipswitch. With forscan freeware. With the payed version i was able to even replace the instument cluster an reprgram my Keys. And ive added new options to my car with a program called elmconfig. Freeware . I dont know if it is helpfull but i wanted to share it with you. Good luck.Sam I hope you can fix it

Be glad to see you get that thing going again. Outrageously beautiful car.

My experience tells me you will need to find every connector, junction or terminal that was subjected to salt water. You will need to thoroughly clean salt and corrosion off each corroded electrical connector. After cleaning, then new corrosion resistant surface must be restored. This might be some new solder on a ring terminal or maybe just some corrosion inhibitor like No-lox or similar. The salt will continue to attract moisture, so ,use be removed and treated or the rust/corrosion will continue to creep until it destroys everything. Might be able to move to Arizona or similar dry climate and slow the creep, but salt is very destructive to any metal and must be removed. Another you tuber named Scotty Kilmer might be a good call to make, sometimes he seems to have connections to get stuff done. Good luck!

Hang in there Sam. If a thing is worthwhile, it usually takes some effort.

@AP-op4rc

11 ай бұрын

Surprising how often people tend to forget or work around this.

I really liked seeing the time spent in the pick apart yard. We dont have them in CT by me. Just walking around would be awesome seeing what's there.

Fantastic video...I was waiting for this one....Your narrative is great....stick with it...there is a solution

I had to do the same thing with a convertible audi bought at an auction, it was painful 😂. Splicing wires, programming CCM, etc. But at the end, car only cost me around 900 bucks.

@TheBorre

11 ай бұрын

Nice

Most likely all the data you need is on one of the chips. Identify that chip or any chips with model/VIN specific data on them, and send the old and new ECM to a place that specializes in micro-soldering along with a detailed picture of which one(s) you want swapped. Most of the time with corrosion, the traces/PCB is bad, capicitors and resistors might be bad, but silicon is protected as long as you can still solder onto the exposed legs/pads of the chip.

Another great video well done Sam Its about time you came over to the UK

Love you Sam your the man!! Make this look so easy

@badlarry172

11 ай бұрын

sam the man ✌

@nickkray5938

11 ай бұрын

You're

The only Aston Martin owner humping a tool bag through a junk yard to fix it! 😂

Florida floods - keeping car KZreadrs in business. Well done Sam, that dealer full story was wonderfully told!.

I have worked in the Marine field for many many years and have dealt with multiple sea water flooded engines compartments. One seawater gets into wiring plugs pins alternators starters senders the best fix is to replace with new. The salt corrosion keeps coming back to bite you. If it was washed out instantly you might have a chance but this has sat around and the salt has soaked into most areas. You may eventually get it going but the salt keeps fighting back. If it is a Volvo wiring harness then great all new wiring and anything else flooded by seawater.

I'd love to have 10% of Sam's positive mindset, thinking that can repair this car just with replacing pigtails. Even with a full harness swap will hard to get this car going again.

@philtucker1224

7 ай бұрын

Yes it’s important to be positive and at least give every opportunity a try. Otherwise you will soon be old and look back and think “I wish I had tried” but then it will be too late…mark my words!

@samcrac Been following your videos since I found you, waiting for the next chapter in the Aston Martin saga! Can't wait to see what happens!

I did this just the other week on a Porsche flood car. pigtailed the harness, replaced the module- car is 100% now. Good luck.

We’ve never needed them!! Good luck Sam I wish I could help but I’m sure you’ll have an awesome subscriber to come thru💪🏻💪🏻

I can't imagine that AM can use anything other than a variant of the Volvo code and Volvo tools with the Volvo CEM. It would be interesting to see what a Volvo re-coding tech could do given access to the standard Volvo & AM hex files. I am thinking the the tech would need to see how Volvo remappers zero out the IMMO function and then apply that to an AM file. I have a C70 T5 and when I investigated a remap, the guy I contacted said he needed my CEM or file as the basis for the changes, which may not be a good sign. You need a clean copy of the AM CEM files if you are going to make progress.

You can do it, don’t give up on the Aston

Got a love it when the service department charges you more for a part then the parts counter charges.

Awesome video, I can hardly wait until the next one to find out where it goes from here.

Just a thought, why don't you try over here in England, there are Aston specialists here and it's like Jaguar over here, it's a whole network. Chances are someone will know someone with the software you need.

Ussually data stored in electronic devices is also encrypted and encryption keys are stored in a different chip on the same board. Maybe they could'nt read the chip's data because they didn't pulled the encription keys on the corresponding chip also.

Fingers crossed that you can stick it to the stealership. One thing I'd like to note though, when you said there's no way it's 60 hours to replace a harness. That depends. I swapped out the entire body harness on my BMW e30 touring - the thing is ONE piece front to back. Easily took me 60 hours.

best channel on youtube!!! more stuff at the scrap yards(pickApart).. love the salvage stuff.

In the UK most car breakers will not let customers near the cars to get parts (Elf and safety)

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

11 ай бұрын

This is PYP, Pick Your Part. I'm sure they are insured up the wahzoo.

Someone, somewhere, has stolen one of these Aston Martin computers.... That's how a lot of them end up in the wild

@potatochobit

11 ай бұрын

no, a new model computer comes out and the old one goes into a pile which is eventually discarded or sold.

@michaelbolton1090

11 ай бұрын

Even if you had the computer or module used to connect, every OEM tool I've used requires a yearly subscription

I truly appreciate your way of thinking Bruh. Boils down to common sense, and you have a whole lot of it. Keep sticking it to these thieves Robin Hood. Stay Blessed.

You might be able to program that bcm or CSM using the forscan software, it's free online - normally for fords but might work with this. If you can find another car the same and back up that, you might be able to write the configuration back to yours, good luck!

GREAT video man. This is the stuff I like to see. I feel sorry for whomever has to splice all those wires. I am waiting to see which splices you use. The best slices I have found for doing a few steering columns is the thermal spices with the solder inside of clear heat shrink tubing. You need a real heat gun, but the good ones have a form of hot glue inside as well that gives you a water tight splice. They cost more than crimp spices, but are much better for under the dash. I have used them for outside installations. I'll get you an Amazon link if you don't already have them. BTW, I am over here in St.Pete

@Samcrac

11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure they even need to be spliced at this point, but we're prepared to do it if the time comes

@Lamster66

11 ай бұрын

Soldered and sleeved if you want to do it, know it'll work, then forget about it. 2 or 3hrs work providing all the same pinouts are used on both cars

@johnelectric933

11 ай бұрын

@@Lamster66 That is what these things do. They have a ring of solder in the heat-shrink and clear tubing so you can QC your work. If you've ever tried splicing under the dash these are wonders. Some kits come with a heat gun with a baffle so you aren't melting everything around you. There is no advantage in doing the operations separately, doing it the hard way doesn't always mean better.

@Lamster66

11 ай бұрын

@@johnelectric933 Unless like me you've been doing it for about 40 years

@earthconstructor

11 ай бұрын

@@johnelectric933 I’ve used those same connectors and love them also for the ease of use, but I’ve also found them to be bulky when you’re splicing a large amount of wires in one harness. Solder and heat shrink can keep your harness slimmer.

love it when you can go to the junkyard and beat the stealership

Can’t wait for an update hope you can find some tech who will “borrow” the scan tool from their dealership and help you out

Surprised I haven't run into Sam at this junk yard off of Causeway and US41. It's become everyone's go to in the Tampa area

I can't wait in 6 months to find out what happens 😮 You should get alien head Rich rebuilds to help out 💪

@FreePalestine1948

11 ай бұрын

LOL

Can’t blame the dealership for not really wanting to work on a car with saltwater corrosion in it , if anything thing happened down the road they don’t want to be liable

@D1570R73D

8 ай бұрын

This 100%, they would have to take the whole car apart and inspect EVERYTHING, it's just not worth it which is why the car was totaled in the first place. The dealership probably decided not to work on the car after the managers got involved for this reason. Clearly this guy bought this car because it was cheap and didn't realize that with expensive brands comes expensive maintenance.

I love it that you are sticking it to the stealerships. It is ludicrous what they want to charge!

Thanks for your video, it encourages me to take the first step toward my dreams.

Better still go stand alone like Haltech :) Love your stuff

Yay, Sam's back! Whoa, that's a crazy stealership story...

The cut to the breakdancing "dealer" was fantastic!

Dealerships are evil Sam. Sorry you had to go through that and I hope you get this sorted.

@potatochobit

11 ай бұрын

you expect people to fix this POS FOR FREE? most dealerships charge double book time, if it takes 1 hour to program then being charged two hours is perfectly normal. you poor trailer inhabitants act like your 300,000$ car should be fixed for free, ridiculous, if you dont want to pay go fix your own honda.

@mikesinyaboot5992

11 ай бұрын

​@@potatochobitYou really need to stop chugging Bud Lights. Charging book time even if a job takes significantly less time is perfectly fine/normal, but charging double book time is something only a fraudulent piece of shit scammer would do.

@The_North0

11 ай бұрын

@@potatochobit why are you so mad? Do you work at Aston Martin?

@russellwatts9430

11 ай бұрын

@@The_North0 oh you know it’s someone at the dealership he went to!!

@The_North0

11 ай бұрын

@@russellwatts9430 this guy is so angry. Sam just pointed out that they charged way too much to just plug in their computer but then I read somewhere that Aston Martin dealership pays $50,000 a year subscription to aston Martin manufacturer to gain access to their software database and that might explain why they charged that high to just plug in their computer.

You may be better off asking someone WITH an Aston to donate the board to clone. Their software isn't gonna be that sophisticated, cloned board and locksmith level access will likely fix you. At that point its "just a key change" far as its concerned

I just don’t understand the common dealer business practice, and it’s such a breath of fresh air when I experience honest mechanics.

In Volvos when you change the CEM you gotta change the key as well. Or you needed to maybe take the immo dump file off you CEM module and put it on the new one. Not sure if that’s where this video is going but that stood out to me in the first 2 mins.

Is he still working on it?

Great video. Feeling like OG Sam in the pick a part yard!

Just keep doing what your doing. I think you'll get life into it eventually and then with a deep deep clean it will be a very nice car.

OMG I can't wait for the next installment Sam

sam you should have sent your step mom to the dealer to convince the tech to get the inside scoop

Note to self, don’t buy a flood salvage Aston

@kensmechanicalaffair

11 ай бұрын

Also noted, lol.

Sam. What a find on that C70 Volvo …..I own and run a lovely C70 so if that gets the Aston working it’ll bring a smile to my face 🇬🇧👍❤ dave

Sorry for the late and most likely irrelevant comment . But try and soak the original connectors in a strong citric acid bath . Literally dissolve as much powder into a cup of warm water as you can’t and soak each connector for 20 mins . It will take tj copper back to shiny new copper again and remove all the green . Just make sure you sock them in clean water after and dry to remove the acid

Loved the video all the best Sam. Shout out from London 🇬🇧 U.K. I’m a Porsche guy those Aston dealers are cowboys you should name and shame them for other Aston owners in the area.