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The accidental Hall of Famer is a player by the name of Bobby Wallace. Bobby Wallace was a MLB Hall of Fame shortstop from the dead ball era who most baseball fans aren't familiar with. That's where I come in. In this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, we explore Wallace's unlikely path to Cooperstown. It involves a Hall of Fame Veteran's committee, comparisons to Dave Concepcion and Omar Vizquel, and Branch Rickey.
One reason why I was so excited to make this video is the fact that Wallace began his career with the Cleveland Spiders, before moving on to St. Louis Cardinals baseball and St. Louis Browns baseball. Ultimately, this episode will seek to show some of the worst MLB Hall of Famers, but also decide if Bobby Wallace is among them. Either way, the BBWAA isn't responsible. He topped out at 2.7% with them. I hope you enjoy this video about MLB Hall of Fame voting.
Bobby Wallace on Baseball Reference: www.baseball-reference.com/pl...
Bobby Wallace Hall of Fame: baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame...
Soundtrack by William Kage: williamkage.com/

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  • @FoolishBaseball
    @FoolishBaseball3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for an amazing 2020! If you want to support my content monetarily, check out the Patreon: www.patreon.com/foolishbaseball Also, be sure to subscribe to my new channel as well! kzread.info/dron/Gob7q-tONG83_39Rj1M8Cw.html

  • @armyguy650

    @armyguy650

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a Twitter

  • @aRorschachTest

    @aRorschachTest

    3 жыл бұрын

    When are we going to get a shoeless Joe Jackson video?

  • @jimmeeks320

    @jimmeeks320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great job this year foolish it is an absolute pleasure watching your videos.. Happy holidays to you and your family...

  • @dr.jackkevorkian1119

    @dr.jackkevorkian1119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Happy Holidays to you Sir. & Take care.

  • @nacoran

    @nacoran

    3 жыл бұрын

    Templeton, despite being a bit of a PR problem, was actually a really good player. He just messed up a knee and wasn't as good afterwards. Wasn't he swapped straight up for the Wizard of Oz? I had a record breakers card for Templeton for getting 100 hits from both sides of the plate in one season.

  • @petethedutch
    @petethedutch3 жыл бұрын

    Jack Glasscock's problem was that people could always see him coming.

  • @37willdog

    @37willdog

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is an elite comment

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    They could see right through him

  • @qfmarsh64

    @qfmarsh64

    3 жыл бұрын

    I regret that I only have one 👍 to give to this Hall of Fame comment. You win the entire fucking internet. All of it.

  • @warlordofbritannia

    @warlordofbritannia

    3 жыл бұрын

    What was Rusty Kuntz’s problem, then?

  • @wesleylarks838

    @wesleylarks838

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also that he always shrunk under pressure

  • @nb_nic
    @nb_nic3 жыл бұрын

    We've all been wrong this whole time. The BBWAA is actually the BoBby WAllace Association

  • @evansweitzer8056

    @evansweitzer8056

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or the BoBby Wallace Association of America?

  • @megamegapop12

    @megamegapop12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evansweitzer8056 i hope the other Bobby Wallace's around the world get their own association

  • @tommyvincent399

    @tommyvincent399

    Жыл бұрын

    Bob-By Wall-Ace Association

  • @JasonKim-ux7dq
    @JasonKim-ux7dq3 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes the Spiders. The one and only Cleveland Baseball Team

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's right

  • @Compucles

    @Compucles

    3 жыл бұрын

    As much as I dislike the name, I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually brought back for the 2022 Cleveland team.

  • @big8dog887

    @big8dog887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Compucles I'd like to see the logo be a Spider with a Chief Wahoo face. (No feather or red face implying ethnicity, just the big-ass grin).

  • @gwilson314

    @gwilson314

    3 жыл бұрын

    INDIANS! YEE-HAW!

  • @eddiejc1

    @eddiejc1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Compucles At least Cleveland will eventually pick a name. Dan Snyder hasn't moved an inch from the "There's nothing wrong with Red[acted] and we don't care how many people are offended by the name." He honestly thinks his team shouldn't have any name at all if it can't be the old one, which was picked solely because George Preston Marshall didn't want to change uniforms when his team moved from Braves Field to the Red Sox' Fenway Park. (Think about it, and the connection becomes obvious.) Bullets fans got used to Wizards. Senators fans got used to Nationals. But this continuing crap is only encouraging the worst aspects of sports fandom.

  • @ralphlongo1975
    @ralphlongo19753 жыл бұрын

    My guess is that even though those metrics didn't exist on paper, they were understood by the people around baseball at the time. He played for 25 years, he had to be seen as a better option than the short stops of the era.

  • @kobewoods872

    @kobewoods872

    Жыл бұрын

    reminds me of cy young voters doing a pretty good job of matching WAR before it was really known about/invented

  • @SamAronow

    @SamAronow

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kobewoods872 Except in the early 1980s.

  • @northstarjakobs

    @northstarjakobs

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SamAronow I feel like the rise of the relief ace contributed to that, as people were still deciding whether the cy young should be awarded to a relief pitcher in the first place, let alone how to compare a relief pitcher to a starter when they have two different jobs on a team

  • @dominicpancella3012

    @dominicpancella3012

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@SamAronowYou know what was insanely popular in baseball circles in the early '80s? Cocaine

  • @plumjet0930

    @plumjet0930

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SamAronowAre you talking about Dave Stieb or just in general ?

  • @theblacksheep5226
    @theblacksheep52263 жыл бұрын

    Bobby Wallace clearly made a lot of friends throughout his career, just about everyone who played in St Louis. But his defensive prowess was more impressive in an era where gloves weren't much more than padding over the immediate hand. Plus batters weren't swinging for the fences then, he'd have had tens of thousands of plays to make at shortstop. There is some merit for being elected to the HOF as a superb defensive shortstop in the deadball era.

  • @deepcosmiclove

    @deepcosmiclove

    Ай бұрын

    Rabbit Maranville is a good example.

  • @barackhussainobama920
    @barackhussainobama9203 жыл бұрын

    “Ah dang it, I’m in the hall of fame” - Bobby Wallace

  • @TryPuttingItInRice

    @TryPuttingItInRice

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hate when that happens.

  • @dingers5days
    @dingers5days3 жыл бұрын

    I remember writing an article about Glasscock and Dahlen. Definitely two of the best players to have been snubbed by the HOF for non-character reasons

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Wallace is extremely similar to them, Dahlen especially

  • @nate_kang

    @nate_kang

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dingers5Days you mean character reasons, not non-character, right? Dahlen was nicknamed "Bad Bill" (and for good reason), after all.

  • @theunwelcome
    @theunwelcome3 жыл бұрын

    well that was a hell of a twist!

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    glad you liked it!

  • @andrewjuby6339

    @andrewjuby6339

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, I just thought I was getting a random sports history story and instead I was taken on a whole journey.

  • @christopherdean8183

    @christopherdean8183

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was glad you got there. Lot of trashing of old guys and it was nice to see a different trend.

  • @ajwootz8165
    @ajwootz81653 жыл бұрын

    I was too busy staring at Mike trout's baseball reference page I missed the notification.

  • @SuperNuclearUnicorn

    @SuperNuclearUnicorn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Better be in incognito mode because it's pretty filthy

  • @dadshirt6681

    @dadshirt6681

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're past that already man... We stare at Juan Soto's page now ✅

  • @ajwootz8165

    @ajwootz8165

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dadshirt6681 That's in the "homework folder"

  • @henrymarks2237

    @henrymarks2237

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dadshirt6681 that .495 OBP

  • @atthebridge
    @atthebridge3 жыл бұрын

    Rey Schalk is regarded as the man who set the standard for defensive catchers. I believe he was the first to back up plays at other bases and other stuff now routine. And he was also one of the 'Clean Sox' in 1919 which probably earned him brownie points. PS in the 1919 series he threw out 10 Reds baserunners, a record that still stands.

  • @ScottSweeney
    @ScottSweeney3 жыл бұрын

    Can you really say Bobby Wallace is near the top in playing 25 years without a World Series appearance when 9 of those years the World Series didn't exist?

  • @alec1115

    @alec1115

    3 жыл бұрын

    But his team never won a pennant (pre-WS), so even if the World Series was around during those 9 years, he would have the same # of WS appearance as you and me.

  • @big8dog887

    @big8dog887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alec1115 Wallace did play in two Temple Cups, which was the era's equivalent of the World Series. (The first and second place NL teams played each other, Wallace's Cleveland Spiders were the second place team both times).

  • @iamhungey12345

    @iamhungey12345

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@big8dog887 Won one as well. No idea what was given out as rewards that time since we know rings wouldn't become a thing until 1922 and it won't be until 1926 that it caught on. Even the Yankees initially didn't buy into the rings in 1923.

  • @big8dog887

    @big8dog887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iamhungey12345 I'm pretty sure the only reward was extra cash, which was no small thing at the time. Many sources don't recognize the Temple Cup because the second place team won three of the four series, so it's alleged that the first place team didn't take it seriously, with the pennant being the true championship. Fans seemed to agree, as the series were poorly attended.

  • @iamhungey12345

    @iamhungey12345

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@big8dog887 It was too bad since it did seem to helped somewhat inspire the WS we know later on, even if it takes another century for a 2nd place team to get a shot of taking part.

  • @knocturna9731
    @knocturna97313 жыл бұрын

    The ending was so sweet. I’m glad he got to see himself inducted. How can you not be romantic about baseball?

  • @ramirorybczuk9100
    @ramirorybczuk91003 жыл бұрын

    This is a case where we can say, with no doubt, that for Bobby Wallace, the hall of fame was the friends he made along the way

  • @jurado1010
    @jurado10103 жыл бұрын

    Make sure you add your second channel to the “channels” tab so people can find it there too

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    good idea

  • @WilliamHarrisReynolds

    @WilliamHarrisReynolds

    3 жыл бұрын

    shut up, you nerd lol

  • @samgreenberg4966
    @samgreenberg49663 жыл бұрын

    bruh that Houston drumroll killed me lol. please keep that in (and elect Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams)

  • @michaellyga4726

    @michaellyga4726

    3 жыл бұрын

    just imagine eventually if mattingly takes the marlins to the world series as manager and he gets in with a marlins cap instead of a Yankees cap unrealistic but it totally could happen

  • @samgreenberg4966

    @samgreenberg4966

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think his successful managing career will help his case a lot

  • @alexremoll2771

    @alexremoll2771

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Thurman Munson! Please?

  • @samgreenberg4966

    @samgreenberg4966

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexremoll2771 Absolutely! I always forget he's not in the hall of fame! So tragic!

  • @alexremoll2771

    @alexremoll2771

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samgreenberg4966 I feel like all the new-school sabermetric guys wouldn’t even be mad, and of course the old-school guys would be fine with it. I just don’t understand his exclusion

  • @RealBlueony
    @RealBlueony3 жыл бұрын

    Going into this, i thought you'd be talking about Rick Ferrell, a 1920s and 30s catcher who made it in via the Vets committee in 1984, not because he was thought of as HOF worthy, but because a Hall higher up begged the committee to get him at least one vote, so as to not get him shut out. So many then voted for him was elected to the hall.

  • @earlridleniv5110
    @earlridleniv51103 жыл бұрын

    if Cleveland doesnt rename themselves to the spiders i say we riot

  • @blessd24

    @blessd24

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably racist still somehow.

  • @JWex-jy7sk

    @JWex-jy7sk

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’d scare the daylights out of kids with that kind of mascot...😬

  • @TornaitSuperBird

    @TornaitSuperBird

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JWex-jy7sk Better than Municipals or whatever I've seen around...

  • @JWex-jy7sk

    @JWex-jy7sk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TornaitSuperBird Cleveland Rockers! That's what I want. Fitting with Cleveland being home to the rock and roll hall of fame

  • @paysonfox88

    @paysonfox88

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spider lives matter! Form the protest group and riot in the streets of Cleveland! Spider lives matter! S l m!!!!

  • @MrLeoni2
    @MrLeoni23 жыл бұрын

    I'd liked the fact that you'd mentioned the recently passed Dick Allen. Nice touch. ;)

  • @DaDitka

    @DaDitka

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't even know that he had died. I used to be strongly anti-Allen for the Hall, but the more I have read about him, as well as looking at what he did, the more I realize just how wrong I was. He was a monster at the plate and not at all the jerk that some have tried to portray him as being. His election would not at all dilute the Hall, unlike Baines (I'm a White Sox fan, and although as a fan I was happy for him, as a baseball fan I cannot understand why he is there).

  • @MrLeoni2

    @MrLeoni2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaDitka Yeah. He died a few days before the video was posted.

  • @MasterShake9000
    @MasterShake90003 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I want more than more Foolish Bits videos is a retro 8-bit baseball game with deadball-era rosters.

  • @cayorne
    @cayorne3 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always, I normally have BBRef open in another tab when watching these videos but I thought the mystery made it much more engaging.

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had to make that disclaimer specifically for people like you! I would've done the same. Stay curious!

  • @beeorsomething2230
    @beeorsomething22303 жыл бұрын

    YO NEW FOOLISH BASEBALL VIDEO POG! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I will

  • @kkingdrs6630

    @kkingdrs6630

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice pfp

  • @kevingohdcantgo12-09

    @kevingohdcantgo12-09

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found you @beec

  • @beeorsomething2230

    @beeorsomething2230

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kevingohdcantgo12-09 and I found you

  • @daxxonah13
    @daxxonah133 жыл бұрын

    WHO DISLIKED THIS MASTERPIECE, THE BBWAA WRITER'S ASSOCIATION????

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    they're after me

  • @Jame5man

    @Jame5man

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball they did try to stop Larry Walker.

  • @ArsenicDrone

    @ArsenicDrone

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Baseball Writer's Association of America Writer's Association? So people who write about baseball writing (or about the association)? Yeah, screw those guys. Uh, wait, if we're having this conversation, are we members...?

  • @zeked4200

    @zeked4200

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@ArsenicDrone I'm actually in the "writer's association of American baseball writer watchers"...or the WAABBWW for short. We don't watch the games, we watch the writers while they watch the game and then write about how they behaved while they were watching.

  • @dominicpancella3012

    @dominicpancella3012

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@zeked4200I'm familiar with your work. I'm personally in the American Association of Baseball-Writer-Watcher Auditors (AABBWWA) and one of my responsibilities is to make sure you write about baseball journalists in a coherent and non-biased way. It's the only way we can maintain the integrity of America's pastime.

  • @patrickdabs
    @patrickdabs3 жыл бұрын

    The Cleveland spiders need to make a comeback, that logo is the coolest team sports logo I have seen in a long time

  • @millec60

    @millec60

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was sad when that wasn't the new name

  • @TheonlyCslab
    @TheonlyCslab3 жыл бұрын

    My mom: accidents can be replaced The Hall of Fame: We can’t replace this plaque

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    If accidents could be replaced, your mother would have already replaced YOU

  • @TheonlyCslab

    @TheonlyCslab

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball I really didn’t expect this thanks for the compliment Mr.Foolish

  • @aleccolarossi6496

    @aleccolarossi6496

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball this comment hits harder than rougned odor

  • @TheonlyCslab

    @TheonlyCslab

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aleccolarossi6496 I even saw the news of that happening because I live in Texas 🤣

  • @medalkingslime4844
    @medalkingslime48443 жыл бұрын

    One thing I love about your videos is that they’re entirely things you want to focus on and aren’t ever just what people request. No one would request this video and it’s one of your best

  • @24bobdylan
    @24bobdylan3 жыл бұрын

    Also thank you so much for the Omar’s Coming reference 🤣 *whistles farmer in the dell*

  • @cedricgist7614
    @cedricgist76143 жыл бұрын

    This kind of report is why I subscribed. You do your homework, dig deep, and make surprising connections. Saving this to my favorites list. Really well done!

  • @pomegranatetv2222
    @pomegranatetv22223 жыл бұрын

    Great video and legit one of my favourite youtube channels. Thanks for all the joy and entertainment you've brought me this year. As an Australian who only really first got into baseball three years ago you've greatly expanded my knowledge surrounding the history and culture of the game in that time. Go Jays!

  • @ethan60645
    @ethan606453 жыл бұрын

    Not as good as Ryan Teperas MVP vote getting season IMO

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hard to measure up to that masterpiece

  • @radoverpink

    @radoverpink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ngl he got robbed

  • @ajwootz8165

    @ajwootz8165

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think he deserved more votes the Jacob Degrom............oh wait.

  • @getthepapersgetthepapers
    @getthepapersgetthepapers3 жыл бұрын

    Do a video about how Greg Gibson the home plate umpire motioned to both players

  • @jamiehealy7732

    @jamiehealy7732

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the Dodger bench is celebrating in the dugout

  • @bankstolley3655
    @bankstolley36553 жыл бұрын

    Dude I appreciate your videos so much, these are high quality, informational videos that I wouldn’t be exposed to if it weren’t for your channel, please continue posting

  • @jasonb.1147
    @jasonb.11473 жыл бұрын

    You have a happy holiday as well, thank you for all the work you put in!

  • @karfsma778
    @karfsma7783 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, some friends of mine were talking about the Cleveland Spiders *yesterday*

  • @WaffleMan
    @WaffleMan3 жыл бұрын

    3:46 hey I’m consistent ☹️

  • @ethan3949

    @ethan3949

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love u

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anything, you're consistently bad these days. Sorry Rougie. I would not say it to your face with that mean right hook though.

  • @alleanklienbonita4705

    @alleanklienbonita4705

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball who is joe?

  • @corbor
    @corbor3 жыл бұрын

    Baseball Bits has been one of my favorite KZread series I’ve discovered in 2020. Keep up the good work my man!

  • @EliLoney
    @EliLoney3 жыл бұрын

    Woah! Ricochet shot to my 2007-2008 Chicago Cubs legend Aramis Ramirez! Who you going after next?! Kosuke Fukudome? Derrek Lee? Where does this madness end?! FOOLISH baseball is right! Jk, that 2007-2008 Cubs team just holds a special place in my heart. Getting to watch games all summer with my grandma and dad on WGN with Len Kasper over the airwaves was a summer I hope to never forget. Love the vids, Foolish! Keep up the incredible work!

  • @nickolson5655
    @nickolson56553 жыл бұрын

    It’s always a good day when you post 🐐

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks king

  • @sherylannnarvasa6922
    @sherylannnarvasa69223 жыл бұрын

    Branch Rickey and the others knew what they were doing when they helped get Wallace into the Hall of Fame. It wasn't cronyism. They saw him for the great player that he was and your final analysis proves what they already saw in him. As far as Pie Traynor is concerned, my great-grandfather, who played professional baseball himself, said Pie Traynor was the best third baseman he had ever seen play. In fact, Traynor was considered the greatest third baseman of the first half of the twentieth century, fully deserving to be in the Hall of Fame.

  • @l34l
    @l34l3 жыл бұрын

    This is the reason why enjoying internet is still great, people like you, with a strong sense of commitment, dedicated and with a deep love for their work. Thank you, have a great night.

  • @cmasterchoe
    @cmasterchoe3 жыл бұрын

    Again absolutely fabulous content. Always enlightening us with all aspects of baseball!

  • @Dapper_Dean
    @Dapper_Dean2 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes, their prolific defensive skills are overlooked. My favorite to watch, was Ozzy Smith.

  • @psuley1977
    @psuley19773 жыл бұрын

    I think maybe your best video yet. Took me on a journey with the way your laid this out. Great work. Glasscock in 2021!

  • @geezymatt4975
    @geezymatt49753 жыл бұрын

    Yessir, I love your videos so much. Thanks for putting so much time in and making my day

  • @reidyoung686
    @reidyoung6863 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I’m excited!!!

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm excited too!!

  • @TheMidwestGaming
    @TheMidwestGaming3 жыл бұрын

    I love the early era videos. This and Old Hoss Radbourn are amazing content and I really enjoy learning about it. I don't know if you *like* getting video recommendations, but it could be cool to do a series on the different eras of baseball! Best players, league stats, controversial issues, etc. Love your channel!

  • @stephenstrang590

    @stephenstrang590

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!!!

  • @williamarchibald1378
    @williamarchibald13782 жыл бұрын

    Ray Schalk is in the HOF as an award for not taking money from gamblers on that infamous 1919 Chicago White Sox team

  • @robertwoytowicz308
    @robertwoytowicz3083 жыл бұрын

    This could be one of my favorites so far. Never even heard of the guy and I love him now.

  • @jacobredmond4127
    @jacobredmond41272 жыл бұрын

    I was in Cooperstown this summer and remembered this video because of the ray schalk thing. On his plaque it says he caught like 5 no hitters and a perfect game. So yes he does have 83 ops+. There is a reason he appealed to older voters. And that’s it.

  • @dominicpancella3012

    @dominicpancella3012

    2 ай бұрын

    His bond with pitcher Red Faber is among the top all-time batteries

  • @garyedmondson2998
    @garyedmondson29983 жыл бұрын

    Stats are great, revealing, equalizing. But, in reading their comments, you see that many old players and observers also valued the aesthetics of the game. Most "greatest nine" compilations from the dead-ballers emphasize fielding over hitting. Dave Bancroft was not called "Beauty" for his visage. Ray Schalk was also fine fielder and one of the honest Black Sox. As a Cardinals fan since 1958, I fear that our many LOW-level HOFers -- not just the Friends of Frankie Frisch and some of whom I really like -- have had a detrimental effect against such worthies as Boyer, Hernandez, Rolen and Edmonds.

  • @greatloverofmusic1

    @greatloverofmusic1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent comment. The thing that's maddening is that these writers have access to, say Scott Rolen's, fine numbers and ample "eye test' examples of his worthiness. I have to ask, since you've been around longer than I have, was Keith Hernandez not the most brilliant defensive first baseman that you're ever seen? For me, the answer is a resounding yes. Cheers.

  • @garyedmondson2998

    @garyedmondson2998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I was busy working and broadcasts were limited during Hernandez's days, but Michael A. Humphreys in Wizardry, ranks him as the top fielding first baseman of all time. I was aware of his reputation, but didn't see a lot of the evidence. Fielding is the toughest skill to quantify. One system showed Bill Buckner among the top fielders because of all of his assists -- generated by his immobility and his insistence that pitchers cover the bag on balls hit to him, which most guys would just take themselves. Hernandez has been chosen for the St. Louis hall of honor, going in this year with another fine first baseman, Bill White, one of the heroes of my youth.

  • @dominicpancella3012

    @dominicpancella3012

    2 ай бұрын

    Rolen's in! Still waiting on those others, and I couldn't agree more with you as to why they've been snubbed. Hernandez and Edmonds will have a chance with the veteran's committee, I don't know about Boyer

  • @ImBilly
    @ImBilly3 жыл бұрын

    i’ll never get tired of these videos, always so well done

  • @luv2sail66
    @luv2sail663 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for an interesting video about a forgotten player. Well researched and well presented.

  • @UnderdawgMLB
    @UnderdawgMLB3 жыл бұрын

    What I wouldn’t give to be named Glasscock

  • @modulo3664

    @modulo3664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hard, but fragile?

  • @ArsenicDrone

    @ArsenicDrone

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems the answer is that you wouldn't give a couple hundred bucks and a couple hours in court, or else you wouldn't be sighing wistfully about it

  • @weirdboo

    @weirdboo

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. You wanna be named Glasscock then go change your name lmfao nothing is stopping you

  • @glypnir
    @glypnir3 жыл бұрын

    I suspect the committee was able to use their experience and baseball know how to come to a correct conclusion without the modern numbers. They probably saw him make many amazing defensive plays, and they probably allowed for the dead ball era in looking at his averages. There are other ways to judge people than by the numbers.

  • @bobbyceresia6849
    @bobbyceresia68493 жыл бұрын

    Underrated part of these episodes are the truly insane old baseball names. Naming my firstborn son/daughter High Pants

  • @fuzzywarble

    @fuzzywarble

    3 жыл бұрын

    Highpockets

  • @dominicpancella3012

    @dominicpancella3012

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't forget to name one of your children Vinegar Bend

  • @cherokeeoutlaw2.011
    @cherokeeoutlaw2.0112 жыл бұрын

    Found my new favorite channel. Thanks 😌 ⚾

  • @Alapalooza27
    @Alapalooza273 жыл бұрын

    YES! They should be renamed the Cleveland Spiders!

  • @tonydio666
    @tonydio6663 жыл бұрын

    Omar Vizquel had a glove and if Wallace was even close to him congratulations Mr. Wallace.

  • @stefanwilliams4798
    @stefanwilliams47983 жыл бұрын

    this is some of your absolute best work. awesome video

  • @thomassain3985
    @thomassain39853 жыл бұрын

    Dude, this is the best video I've seen you put out. Wonderful job.

  • @jackhibbert34
    @jackhibbert343 жыл бұрын

    I already know this will be a banger

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    I need that confidence

  • @tysparks598
    @tysparks5983 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad this ended the way it did, b/c I was gonna complain... I trust the judgement of Branch Rickey over any stats, for one thing. There's never been a better, more forward-looking mind that Rickey's, he instituted drills (like sliding drills), he created the farm systems, & he integrated baseball. And he got this one right. I figure he was batting 1.000, basically. Thanks for the informative video, baseball history is American history, it's hard to separate the two.

  • @JohnSarge13
    @JohnSarge133 жыл бұрын

    My day is always better when you post a new video. Doesn’t matter what it’s about, i love them all

  • @updownbrodown215
    @updownbrodown2158 ай бұрын

    Rabbit Maranville is also a head scratcher. Career .258 hitter. 28 home runs. Paltry RBI and SB numbers. Had a few decent seasons WAR-wise, but not many.

  • @ernestbrown9660

    @ernestbrown9660

    2 ай бұрын

    That was a sentimental vote due to the fact that he had recently died. He was never viewed as a top SS in his league like Wallace was.

  • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
    @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd28023 жыл бұрын

    Hey, another guy with a name of Bob! (If it's shortened)

  • @6thwilbury2331

    @6thwilbury2331

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty good.

  • @dr.jackkevorkian1119
    @dr.jackkevorkian11193 жыл бұрын

    Someone’s voice is changing along with their confidence. Keep growing & keep up the great work.

  • @quantosgames3289
    @quantosgames32893 жыл бұрын

    This was a really good and informational vid. Thank you!

  • @PeteRench
    @PeteRench3 жыл бұрын

    Such a great story, thanks Bailey!

  • @AirtimeThrills
    @AirtimeThrills3 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone can say they accidentally made the MLB HOF. Bravo Mr Wallace

  • @alexwei2573

    @alexwei2573

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yo what up Airtime Thrills, when’s that top-50 coaster vid dropping

  • @AirtimeThrills

    @AirtimeThrills

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexwei2573 monday the 28th

  • @JWaj290
    @JWaj2903 жыл бұрын

    Can you look at Harold Baines on baseball reference for his 1999 season? His stays are insane for a 40 year old

  • @adamide

    @adamide

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're right. .919 OPS is crazy for a 40-year-old. Kinda what like Nelson Cruz is doing now, minus a little power.

  • @iraevans2013

    @iraevans2013

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ask HOF managers. They knew Baines was a dangerous bat. Underated imo.

  • @adamide

    @adamide

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never understood the gripe about him being in the Hall. 2,800 hits and over 350 homers.

  • @orbyfan

    @orbyfan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adamide Those are stats of longevity, not greatness; he was consistently good, but never great.

  • @adamide

    @adamide

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orbyfan I agree that he wasn’t great for a long time. But at some point consistency should get rewarded.

  • @coopaloopmex
    @coopaloopmex3 жыл бұрын

    This video was amazing! Thanks @FoolishBaseball

  • @davidswift7776
    @davidswift77763 жыл бұрын

    Extremely insightful, I truly appreciated the fact finding. I’m a member of SABR and this is an awesome KZread post!...thank you and I will gladly subscribe 👍

  • @nathaniellevesque2782
    @nathaniellevesque27823 жыл бұрын

    You should do a full video on the least deserving hall of famers.

  • @apexclan9615

    @apexclan9615

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @torrjpct9492

    @torrjpct9492

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or, maybe look at the hall of famers with the 10 lowest career WAR, and maybe explain WAR a little and what it may mean about these players careers.

  • @evrbody

    @evrbody

    3 жыл бұрын

    Call it "Friends of Frisch".

  • @iraevans2013

    @iraevans2013

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is the equation for WAR ?

  • @torrjpct9492

    @torrjpct9492

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iraevans2013 It's short for Wins Above Replacement. I don't know exactly, but it somehow takes into account hitting/pitching, baseruning, and defense. An all-star player may score a 4 or 5 WAR for that single season, for example.

  • @trajanaugustus3501
    @trajanaugustus35013 жыл бұрын

    Please!! Post more past baseball stuff From the early days or the dead ball era or the golden era, like this one, or that video from old ross, or the cleveland spiders, those are high quality contents that lacks on KZread

  • @typicalsavage5441
    @typicalsavage54413 жыл бұрын

    Got into baseball recently have been hooked on your videos. Keep it up my man

  • @AlanMcCutchen
    @AlanMcCutchen3 жыл бұрын

    Loved the surprise ending. Totally couldn't tell we were being setup. Very nice, thanks!

  • @dtown902
    @dtown9023 жыл бұрын

    They need to induct Kenny Lofton. If some of these schlubs make the list, certainly Kenny does.

  • @blazer6248

    @blazer6248

    3 жыл бұрын

    The committee exists for exactly this reason, IMO. Inducting deserving players that were snubbed by the writers. This year Dwight Evans, Steve Garvey, Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Thurman Munson, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Ted Simmons, Lou Whitaker, and Marvin Miller were all on the ballot. Don freaking Mattingly. Dale Murphy. Tommy John. That's crazy. They all deserve it IMO. A few others too.

  • @Halo.-.

    @Halo.-.

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would add Sweet Lou(Lou Whitaker), Trammells in & Lou deserves it, I've run the numbers

  • @iraevans2013

    @iraevans2013

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone of them deserves it.

  • @AJKPenguin

    @AJKPenguin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kenny Lofton and Otis Nixon.

  • @owenanderson3425
    @owenanderson34253 жыл бұрын

    I think a video about Matt Chapman would be very cool and entertaining

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be a fun one.

  • @owenanderson3425

    @owenanderson3425

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball is Chapman a better overall player than Bregman? I think Chapman is only worse than arenado and rendon

  • @csgman5981

    @csgman5981

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@owenanderson3425 And Machado

  • @noahkalus8231

    @noahkalus8231

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@owenanderson3425 bregman is a rotten cheater. But I still think he’s a great player, and probably better than Chapman.

  • @owenanderson3425

    @owenanderson3425

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@csgman5981 I knew I was forgetting someone machado I think is the best 3b in baseball

  • @my_stomach_hurt1876
    @my_stomach_hurt18762 жыл бұрын

    few things i love more than baseball history. this is awesomely made

  • @bryancadents3559
    @bryancadents35593 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. Keep 'em coming!

  • @noahsturm9655
    @noahsturm96553 жыл бұрын

    The crime dog should have gotten into the hof

  • @samrey763
    @samrey7633 жыл бұрын

    They should name the cleavland baseball team the spiders😂

  • @impersonatinghuman
    @impersonatinghuman3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video dude. Best baseball content on the planet. Happy holidays!

  • @baseballasqued
    @baseballasqued3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been watching for six months now.. with that said this is the idea I had for a channel before I found you. I’m not jealous at all because I didn’t punt the work in. But I do wanna say this is flipping awesome..... I just wanted to say this is great!!!! Thanks for this channel!

  • @Beckipedia
    @Beckipedia3 жыл бұрын

    Can we get a Baseball Bits about how two of the best players in Atlanta Braves history, Andruw Jones and Dale Murphy, are consistently overlooked by the voters as well? The fact that Dale Murphy isn't in the HOF is a travesty that will always get under my skin.

  • @big8dog887

    @big8dog887

    3 жыл бұрын

    As long as we're talking Atlanta Braves, you could also make a pretty good case for Fred McGriff.

  • @moeball740

    @moeball740

    3 жыл бұрын

    The more interesting question to me is what happened to Dale after 1987? From 1982-1987 he had a run of 6 very good seasons and I thought he was on his way to the HOF. Was an outstanding hitter, good baserunner, excellent center fielder. Then...he fell off a cliff. He didn't have the gradual decline like Eddie Murray and others had, he just stopped hitting. And running. And fielding. Just a sudden decline in all aspects of the game. Not sure if it was injuries or something else, but it was sad to watch. He was never the same player again.

  • @Beckipedia

    @Beckipedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@moeball740 his wife recently said in a Facebook post that he had a degenerative knee problem that followed him at the end of his career

  • @nedlitam

    @nedlitam

    3 жыл бұрын

    Murphy was one of my favorite players, and had five great years. But I don't think that's HOF-worthy.

  • @erickennedy5993

    @erickennedy5993

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nedlitam He should be

  • @swisscheese6456
    @swisscheese64563 жыл бұрын

    He sounds like a noob.

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bobby Wallace confirmed scrub by Swiss Cheese

  • @davidlevison9334

    @davidlevison9334

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoolishBaseball can’t disagree with Swiss cheese

  • @pizzagummy3040

    @pizzagummy3040

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidlevison9334 It does seem like he has a lot of holes in his theory though

  • @markabraham5956

    @markabraham5956

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Pittsburgh born!

  • @kurtissjacobs5618
    @kurtissjacobs56183 жыл бұрын

    Great research and story! Thank you.

  • @JacobBailey
    @JacobBailey3 жыл бұрын

    Gesh. I love this format and type of information. Pretty much perfect. 👍👍

  • @user-io8gb8tm7l
    @user-io8gb8tm7l3 жыл бұрын

    glasscock gotta make it based off his name

  • @kidcrumpet3333
    @kidcrumpet33333 жыл бұрын

    Huh. If Harold Baines is in the hall, than anyone can make it in.

  • @kidcrumpet3333

    @kidcrumpet3333

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@35mm21 yeah

  • @nicholasargiros1331
    @nicholasargiros13313 жыл бұрын

    That was a twist I was not expecting. Love it

  • @luciogamesmusic
    @luciogamesmusic3 жыл бұрын

    This channel is awesome, well done.

  • @tylersmith6221
    @tylersmith62213 жыл бұрын

    Pete Rose definitely should be a hall of famer

  • @MarloSoBalJr

    @MarloSoBalJr

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd bet on this 👍

  • @gamemeister27

    @gamemeister27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man has the most hits in MLB history, and he's still a big name. Everyone over a certain age knows Pete Rose.

  • @phoenixgamer3480

    @phoenixgamer3480

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @areguapiri

    @areguapiri

    3 жыл бұрын

    All "intelligent" people know Pete Rose is a hall of famer.

  • @Hawk2DaOn
    @Hawk2DaOn3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being inducted, and then finding out it was an accident 😐

  • @seandwyerauthor
    @seandwyerauthor3 жыл бұрын

    Love the twist. Thanks!

  • @TwitchWasHere
    @TwitchWasHere3 жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. 😁

  • @Jakefog
    @Jakefog3 жыл бұрын

    Being from England I have both very little knowledge and interest in baseball, yet here I am jumping for joy at the fact there's a new baseball bits. I love KZread (and baseball bits)

  • @FoolishBaseball

    @FoolishBaseball

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that Cricket Brits can enjoy Baseball Bits.

  • @JazzyJeff910
    @JazzyJeff91025 күн бұрын

    I actually went to school with David Concepcion’s kids. Played soccer with both his sons in high school. Never got to meet him though. Great guys.

  • @spdepew
    @spdepew3 жыл бұрын

    This should win a Pulitzer. The best video you have ever made. Amazing.

  • @DrewOB22
    @DrewOB222 жыл бұрын

    Wow big twist, love the vid bro

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