The Abandoned Genre of "Ocean Grunge"
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Today, you and I are going to explore a now abandoned genre once known as “Ocean Grunge”, what it was and some of the notable releases from this aquatically angsty genre found within the depths of the internet.
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What other genres do you want to see me explore on here? let me know!
@sammytim3520
4 жыл бұрын
Pad Chennington the most mysterious song on the internet?
@TheJfluffy
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a dabble in "lowercase music"? or maybe nintendocore/chiptune
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
oooo I think all those would work... any good examples of lowercase music? don't know too much about the genre but sounds interesting lol
@TheJfluffy
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington I recommend watching this video by 'This Exists' : "kzread.info/dash/bejne/dX2OpqiLl63UeNI.html" and this playlist: "kzread.info/head/PLDgz_mnzmc11v4uLOXGQwzoefC5sDTAFY" I discovered lowercase music from there along with a Watchmojo video that talked about the weirdest music genres. "kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGaEkqpukZqfZ7w.html" *Spoilers: Vaporwave is in the list as well.* The best way to describe lowercase music is how simple *everyday sounds* can *become songs.*
@khaiplusdotcom404
4 жыл бұрын
Seapunk!
Regular music fan: "My favourite grunge band is Pearl Jam, and yours?" Pad Chennington: "§E▲ ▓F D▓G§"
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
w o o f w o o f
@udyr106
4 жыл бұрын
D O G G O E S W O O F
@paranoid97
4 жыл бұрын
*_V A P O R W O O F O_*
@deboozombie23
4 жыл бұрын
This brought me here de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stammton
@Tables-zm7db
Жыл бұрын
😂
4/10 It wasn't underwater nirvana
@darkcarnival1805
4 жыл бұрын
Nirvana sucks.
@darkcarnival1805
4 жыл бұрын
Nirvana sucks.
@darkcarnival1805
4 жыл бұрын
Nirvana sucks.
@bigboyboris3053
4 жыл бұрын
@@darkcarnival1805 u wot mate
@darkcarnival1805
4 жыл бұрын
@Clique Memes 'udingding ding ur opinion is wrong'. An opinion can't be wrong, it's an opinion. Please don't be one of 'those' people. But on the other hand, thank you for keeping it a bit classy and not resorting to every insult in the book.
1970: punk 1980: new wave 1990: grunge 2000: ska punk 2012: sea punk 2013: vaporwave 2014: ocean grunge 2020: wet ska
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
2022 slippery country
@hensoakira
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington 2023: Pad Wave
@bm7291
4 жыл бұрын
WaterXcore
@MyNameHousefly
4 жыл бұрын
2025 Sticky soul
@theboxcaradventurer1874
4 жыл бұрын
2027: Tidal Techno
What if people made some Ocean Grunge after this video.... Jk..... Unless?? 👀
@alexandriaorcld6365
4 жыл бұрын
Some people still do, I occasionally go on r/oceangrunge, and it's slow, but new things do come out every now and then.
@suncityranger1115
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandriaorcld6365 yeah, makes sense, all internet music genres don't want to 'die' so people will always try and 'revive' them if they CAN 'revive' them they will be known as the one who 'revived' it and everyone wants to be popular even in a small environment
@alexandriaorcld6365
4 жыл бұрын
@@suncityranger1115 It's also just so easy to keep the genre going, since a lot of it is sample based. People keep making it because it's not hard to do, and they like doing it.
@suncityranger1115
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandriaorcld6365 yeah! :)
@mentealienari7293
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandriaorcld6365 That is amazing to know. Guess i should visit Reddit again.
This subgenre was one of my favorites, Sea of Dogs actually has some really good albums like "Storm Memories" but yeah, At this point the Oceangrunge genre is lost in the vast and endless deeps of the bandcamp ocean.
Once again it’s proven that there’s always another genre.
@spooku245
4 жыл бұрын
More like subgenre
Ocean Grunge: * is forgotten * Pad Chennington: * uploads * “Extinct music genre re-evolves itself back into existence”
02:37 _"How many songs could have possibly been made about the same thing?"_ I wonder how many songs there are about love? 🤔😙
@michael--a--sometimes
4 жыл бұрын
Found the comment I was looking for 👍
@shoeshine00
4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say, theres actually an infinite number of interpretations based on an aesthetic.
@williamschutz4982
4 жыл бұрын
Great point
@FernieCanto
4 жыл бұрын
Love is endless, unlike the imagination of "microgenre" Internet artists.
@elesquimal7551
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but there's a big amount of lyrics about live that don't say anything new, use the same punchline and overall talk about love like everyone else
3:24 That "brick wall" ☵ thing is actually the I Ching trigram for water
@aeronneff5779
4 жыл бұрын
came here to comment this too!
Albums mentioned in video: 1. oceanographer #15 - gorgeous gorgias 2. ~~~Devour~~~ - Pacific Despair 3. Beneath the burning hands of God - POSEIDON IN CHAINS 4. as the earth drinks - metsu 5. through the fog and the driftwood - sea of dogs
there's no consumerism in the ocean :((
@elkyubi4281
4 жыл бұрын
*Rapture fantasy
@ikaros4203
4 жыл бұрын
F O O D C H A I N E C O N O M I C S
@shuggieintwo5063
4 жыл бұрын
congratulations is an underrated album
@anpy_anpt
4 жыл бұрын
yeah sadly
@alexg5950
4 жыл бұрын
congratulations
NEXT GENRE: dream thrash/metalgaze
@skullsouljah2836
4 жыл бұрын
This exists. Listen to deafhaven
@GoGoTomoko
4 жыл бұрын
yessss
@GiantArtProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Post metal is pretty much metalgaze tbh
@hensoakira
4 жыл бұрын
Thrash metal!! METALLICA😈😈👊💀
@pilchardpliskin9381
4 жыл бұрын
"Metalgaze" is mostly blackgaze
I came here to discover a new genre and ended up knowing the name of my phobia.
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
h a p p y t r a v e l s
@claymccoy
3 жыл бұрын
The more you know...
@heavenly2k
3 жыл бұрын
Same.
I have no idea what genre it is, but the artist Lorn has always been incredibly inspiring to me.
@Napsteraspx
4 жыл бұрын
SAME. His style is super unique. Like he can take a handful of heavy vox and synth and make it sound somehow organic
@HufflepuffShortie
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck yes! It's melancholy and overbearing never been able to find another artist that reminds me
I believe Deathklock recorded an album at the bottom of the ocean pre 2014.
I’m both terrified and completely in awe of large bodies of deep water. I want to explore it and know it’s secrets.....then at the same time it’s an all consuming monster that would crush me, suffocate me, leave me exposed to who knows what might be lurking in the darkness. I’d love my body to be buried at sea as this would probably be as close as I’m ever willingly going to get.
@Masked_SVincent
3 жыл бұрын
Bro we need to get like a super powerful camera or somethin to try and capture things.
guys let's go swimming
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
who's got a pool
@illgeteverythingback
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington pshhh dude, we swimmin' in the sea of grunge. hopefully some of your hot girl fans are comin'.
@Jorj57
3 жыл бұрын
oit maite we're fucking drowning
I still listen to ocean grunge ò_ó OCEAN GRUNGE IS NOT DEAD
So glad to see Sea of Dogs on the list. Hope it gets a little more exposure, it made a nice impression.
I remember Wosx talking about this on his brief history of vaporwave video. Thanks for diving into this genre even more.
Dude I miss ocean grunge. The aesthetic is prime but the subreddit has been dead for months
would like to see a vid on witch house
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
that's a big one I always get requests for too! any album examples you'd recommend?
@ConvincingPeople
4 жыл бұрын
Pad Chennington Not albums but artists, but I have generally heard good things about Mono Yes Aware and Mourning Star from people who are into the style. And no, I am not typing out those symbols, my lord. There are also edge cases like Pictureplane who are quite interesting.
@groupsounds4896
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington oOoOO's 2010 s/t, Salem's King Night, and Balam Acab's See Birds are some early witch house essentials and my most listened to releases from that time. Definitely a good place to start.
@thomasandrewjohnrafferty9616
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pad, I’d recommend checking check out Sidewalks and Skeletons too, if you’re curious about scoping out Witch House/witch house inspired music
@sadstatue4
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington White Ring's Black Earth That Made Me and Ritualz untitled 2010 album (sometimes called "CDR") are pretty essential too I think
"as the earth drinks" is such a good name for an album
I didn't know I needed this genre. Thanks for being the true vaporwave valedictorian, keep up the great work!
Sea Punk?
@codeninja100
4 жыл бұрын
Davon Stephens bring it back
I think I heard an old interview with Sea Of Dogs, saying that it was basically a meme with another friend of his, and it just took off randomly, hence the "influence of nu metal" 😂
Thank you so much for talking about ocean grunge, it is one of my favorite genres of music and it makes me so sad that it's dead
Why can't nightcore be an abandoned genre
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@angeleaterstudios1004
4 жыл бұрын
Nightcore is only good for memes. Like the Nightcore version of Rap God.
@vinapocalypse
4 жыл бұрын
Nightcore? Do you mean ᴺᶦᵍʰᵗᶜᵒʳᵉ?
@ConvincingPeople
4 жыл бұрын
KiwiComics Because if nightcore weren't invented, someone would have to invent it solely to speed up Dream Theater to make them tolerable, or "The Most Unwanted Song" to make it even more The Peak Of Human Achievement than it already is.
@trixstermillion2190
4 жыл бұрын
Nightcore does not justify being a musical genre and should not be treated as such. It's just sped up songs.
Ocean Grunge is cool but I like my music to be a little heavier, like Deep Space Metal
I loved ocean grunge back in the day. Thanks for this video pad I really miss this genre.
You're one of my favorite youtube channels now. I hope you cover more musical microgenres like seapunk, chillwave, etc.
COnsidering I've spent weeks listening to Eurobeat this is quite the change of pace
@lightloominous
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I feel ya. Gotta chill out with some slower tunes sometimes
Ocean Grunge is what Zeus the Guitar Lord from SpongeBob plays
Great video, Pad!
I started watching your videos recently! I like them very much. One thing I noticed you kept saying in this particular video is that the thematic of the genre is too small to keep it growing... When someone have creativity, there is no such thing as "small" or "limited" theme. That's exactly what creativity is meant to be, to transform, to create something new! Maybe the people interested in this genre couldn't produce content like this Sea of Dogs (appareantly, because I didn't listen to it to have an opinion). I'll give this genre a try! Thank you!
First thing I wake up to is a new Pad video, gonna be a great day! ❤️
Oceangrunge is an example of how when you can have too many limits and barriers, it can stifle the creative output. It's also a demonstration of how ridiculous style fixation can be (and yes, vapour is famous for making fun of it just by making a slew of different tags). But at the same time, one can also take it as a springboard to get into something else. After all, once you know "what the rules are", it gives you a certain licence to break them. And finally, this makes my own case for defining vapour the way I do: art/music built on mood and made with a DIY and DGAF attitude.
@DerekPower
4 жыл бұрын
I did pick up a copy of metsu's as the earth drinks. Having just listened to this, I would call this a sludgy/metal Explosions in the Sky. It also reminds me a bit of Isis. Hell, their 2002 album Oceanic and 2004 album Panopticon could be "proto-oceangrunge" =D. It also is a reminder of how ... particular metal can be (and in a way, this is the precedent for vapour making their own genre/style tag list). And finally, while it is not vapour in the obvious ways, I would say being included in the oceangrunge essentials would qualify it as such. I know this gets into the issue of community designation and such. But again, I think what's great about the scene is how open it is.
Really great channel dude!
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy thanks Annie!!!
5:38 I appreciate that you didn't feel the need to put emphasis on that pun
Lol I made one of the 5 albums featured here, finished it in like 2 days after the thread where someone jokingly came up with concept. My main intention was to get it immortalized in the "essentials" chart I knew someone was going to make. It has some nice stuff in there but too bad I sucked at mixing back then.
Pad: The Abandoned Genre Of "Ocean Grunge" Me, a normie: Come As You Are music video?
You know I've been into surf rock lately. Like Phycadelic 60's stuff like The Surfettes
@mrttripz3236
4 жыл бұрын
Same. It's delicious. Listen to a band called Langhorn
@HunterGreenMusic
4 жыл бұрын
listen to Im in your mind fuzz by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
@alexandriaorcld6365
4 жыл бұрын
Listen to Sea Fuzz, they do Surf Rock oceangrunge.
@RexcorJ
4 жыл бұрын
Anything by Dick Dale, really, that's my best recommendation. Good stuff!
@rae.azurea
4 жыл бұрын
Try a band called Psychedelic Porn Crumpets
Thanks for inspiring me Pad! Subbed and all sorts!
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
thanks Vincent! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!
I feel like Ocean Grunge is the exact opposite of something like A1 from Chuck Person’s Eccojams. A1 embodies a much brighter ocean feel than any Ocean Grunge song however. Sadly, I can’t find any songs besides A1 that encapsulates the same feeling. I’m almost dedicated enough to making it happen that I’m thinking about making an album myself
Hey, this video is excellent! Did watch the FrankJavCee video on Ocean Grunge earilier. Never got too deep into the genre though. Anyway, you should talk about Nuworld or Witch House. Definitely would like to hear about these genres.
This was a really great video. I never listened to much ocean grunge, but a few people have compared my music to it so it's interesting to reverse engineer that comparison, though they're thematically very different.
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching dude! got any links to your music?
@trvshbxvt3146
4 жыл бұрын
@@PadChennington would love to know what you think about this one, probably my best release so far boguscollective.bandcamp.com/album/it-pours
He said "no pun intended" one time and then never stopped doing "dive", "surface", "deep", "wave" puns lol. Nice video.
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
lmaoo thank you Paulo!
Oh god Pad I’m back in a coma
@neverloggingout
4 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
HOW
Somewhere Pearl Jam's Oceans is what's playing at the gate entrance of Ocean Grunge
I love this idea cause I’m actually scared of the ocean atleast to be in it so this seems interesting great vid 😌
i guess you could say this style "dried up". interesting concept none the less. always been a fan of water levels in video games, so id like to think this will entertain that nostalgia factor of isolation and remoteness.
I saw this video about a month ago and I have to thank you for introducing me to see of dogs. And I actually was able to find a copy of the 1st press of the cassette in some random store inventory online. And I started on doing my own ocean grunge and probably be dropping it in a month.
Also I listened to as the earth drinks by metsu and it's literally just a sludge metal album xD
Hey, a genre and a few artists I actually listened to when it was alive! Didnt even know what vaporwave was when I first discovered Sea of Dogs
Would the underwater levels of donkey Kong country 3 count as ocean grunge? I never heard of the genre but when I think of the ocean and something dark and grungy but also relaxing, I think of that stage. It has a very creepy but relaxing vibe.
@hydrorobot6610
4 жыл бұрын
I think it can maybe refer to the water levels from the GBA port of the same game
You should do a video linking rap like yung leans early work and vaporwave
@itsbeon
4 жыл бұрын
Up!
@prussianowl233
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@IconicMicrowave
4 жыл бұрын
Yung Lean & Sadboys, Bladee & Drain Gang, Bones & Seshollowaterboyz, Oliver Francis, Fijimacintosh, 6 Dogs, early Global Dan. They all give off vaporwave vibes to me and sometimes implement the sound in their music. Lean and Bones/Xavier Wulf/Chris Travis all were super influential on the vaporwave scene in around 2012-2014. They brought in the bucket hats, Arizona Tea, and Fiji water that vaporwave adopted. I listen to cloud rap as much as vaporwave honestly.
I just stumbled upon this while looking thru sum 1's music playlist and I'm terrified with what I was looking at, I had to pause. I get intense anxiety and my stomach gets upset thinking about it.
Here comes Pirate Metal!
Oceangrunge was basically this. At 2010 witchouse beecome very famous between people that use internet to search about music. At 2011 this happened with seapunk. At 2012 vaporwave.... After it people usually tried to create some genre and make it big, making it the genre of the year or whateaver... Some guy without imagination at 4chan, did with it with oceangrunge, he created some albums and kept shilling his idea there. I said he has no imagination, because basically got seapunk, changed the name sea to ocean and changed punk to grunge, the thing is, he dont even know that the punk from seapunk is problably related not to punk rock genre, but for stuff like steampunk, dieselpunk, decopunk, (insert something here) punk. Almost everyone new it was just one or two guys trying to mage it big and almost no one joined the idea and tried to help them.
Tbh, "Pacific Despair" would make a really cool band name!
Trolled my feed and "oceanwave" caught my eye. Liking your delivery and your site looks interesting, so NEW SUB HERE
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
ayyy thanks so much CJ! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY
*OOOCEAN MAN TAKE ME BY THE HAND*
"aquaticly anxity" is my new bio for tinder
"once existed" ? "Now abandoned" ? Triggered!!!!
can you check out the artists: Staring at Screens, sweat shop lsd, and other Trevor Something projects? thanks Pad, great video
I can't stop imagining Layne Staley gurgling water
Im going to go make some oceangrunge now!
solar sands and chills had a child ( pad i’m kidding i love you so much)
I still revisit Sea of Dogs time to time, love the atmosphere and universe it creates. It got me through 2020
Been a long time since I got recommended one of your videos
The mighty classic pad is back.
The Melon brought me here and I am loving your content
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
ayyy! that's awesome, thanks so much! happy to have ya here :)
Very inspiring
I don't know if there is that much content, but I would be glad if you could make a video on Climatewave... It's a micro genre that I really enjoy, and I'm not sure if that much people know about it! Anyways, great video as always! Thanks!
Ocean man! Take me by the hand, lead me to the land, don't you understand! Ooooocean man... wait this ain't it.
@PadChennington
4 жыл бұрын
i t c a n b e .
I want all these album covers hanged up and framed somewhere.
When I first heard of the term I thought it was grunge music about the ocean.
O C E A N M A N Punus: Man, I guess you could say this genre *SUNK* into obscurity I actually like this genre.
you should try making an ocean grunge song for your next album
3:20 Oh My God "Number Fifteen" (burger king foot lettuce) sound just like him bro.
i just found this- i am now an aspiring guitarist who wants to join my band
Within all that creativity on Bandcamp somewhere the next big genre is brewing.
The water level from "Donkey Kong Country" for Super Nintendo.
@hydrorobot6610
4 жыл бұрын
A better example The same song remixed for the Donkey Kong Country 3 GBA port
@Isis3593
4 жыл бұрын
@@hydrorobot6610 thazzit
@hydrorobot6610
4 жыл бұрын
@@Isis3593 thought I was the only one who knew lmao
That Sea Of Dogs album is named as the opposite of Through The Fire and the Flames.
i feel like that "disconnected from society" guy at the very end of the muisc genre iceberg
Huh that’s strange I thought ocean grunge was alive. I remember coping a few ocean grunge albums on bizcaz
@assonance9057
4 жыл бұрын
I think urusala cartridges was one such artist pad
@alexandriaorcld6365
4 жыл бұрын
It's alive in the sense that it is still being made, but the scene is way smaller now.
@assonance9057
4 жыл бұрын
Ochre and Charcoal ah
@assonance9057
4 жыл бұрын
Ochre and Charcoal I thought it was quite active haha! And big honestly.
Baths' Ocean Death EP could possibly fit this mood
"Granite-colored water" is a great visual 👍
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who knows this genre! I originally discovered it from Frankjavee.
Hey since Junkmaker Sounds is shitting down soon I think a video retrospective of it would be great! Since I can’t think of any vaporwave tape label that has such a variety of sounds on it!
How to create a new genre: Fill in the blanks 1._________ (Water related noun) 2. ________ (existing genre) 3. Choose wether or not to leave them separate, or to create a portmanteau. Ex: Ocean Grunge, Sea Punk, Vaporwave (double points since wave is water related too). Future predictions: Fjord Pop, Deep Sea House, Creek Country, Glacier Rap
The "brick wall" in oceanographer 15 is a talisman from the worlds most ancient divination text, i ching.
The digital version of that Poseidon in chains albums is listed at $100,000 on Bandcamp now lmao
Check out cocoon by veils, its basically Ocean House
Wish I was ocean size no one moves you no one try's.
First i saw the "welcome to hell" documentary about Memphis Rap and now I've learned about this and doomer music man I'm getting to old to be learning stuff like this good video man
All those affiliate links in the video description, but no links to the 5 albums you talked about in the actual video?
Gorgeous Gorgias takes the cake in this genre! Oceanographer 15 is a fantastic album!
Zhutchka is really good, for those of you who are interested in this genre. It sounds like it was original music, and stands apart from ocean grunge as its own thing, similar to as the earth drinks