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@bobrobert6277

Жыл бұрын

don't take anything but picture and leave nothing but footprints , is what i think we should do.

@veracious8205

Жыл бұрын

If you got an obsurd donation what would your dream topic be?

@sparklesparklesparkle6318

Жыл бұрын

Did you get all that dive footage yourself? Massive respect if you went under the ocean I would never do that diving scares me.

@sparklesparklesparkle6318

Жыл бұрын

@@veracious8205 Rare Moon.

@veracious8205

Жыл бұрын

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 take my money

Pro tip: If you're moving $40b worth of treasure, don't cheap out on the shipping. Spend a little extra, have some redundancy.

@speedmetalmassiah567

Жыл бұрын

They did there were 3 ships

@GamesFromSpace

Жыл бұрын

​@@speedmetalmassiah567 It would still be a mistake to send it all at the same time anyways. Storms happen. (And the other two ships didn't even make it as far as the battle, so definitely not enough redundancy.)

@arcies9286

Жыл бұрын

@@speedmetalmassiah567 3 ships for a treasure worthy being spread across dozens of trips? ehh... that's why we're learning about it's failure lol

@selectionn

Жыл бұрын

@@speedmetalmassiah567 im no pro, but if I had like 40 billion dollars worth of jewelry and gold and gems, I would send more than 3 ships to carry and protect it.

@Sool101

Жыл бұрын

Ok thanks! Noted

It's actually a pretty well studied topic in maritime archaeology. The very clear conclusion is that treasure hunting is both a pyramid scheme and far less good for the economy of the area then preservation and proper excavation. Treasure hunting only ever makes a few rich people richer and leaves everyone else paying the cost and history permanently destroyed.

@Yung-plague

Жыл бұрын

It’s a shame, so much of our worlds most amazing history demolished for the greed of one persons single lifetime when it could be preserved for countless lifetimes instead, if personal greed and pride are cast aside.

@Croz89

Жыл бұрын

What would you say if the treasure hunting was non destructive, and the local government collected a hefty salvage tax, 50% or something like that? A few billion dollars for the local coffers could do a lot, and to be honest it's not like the treasure itself is going to end up in a museum in most cases, it's just not that noteworthy. A museum is going to be far more interested in the ship itself.

@redwallzyl

Жыл бұрын

@@Croz89 The issue is that is not the practical reality. Treasure hunting is incredibly destructive inherently. A proper excavation by professional archaeologists would recover both all the artifacts and the historical data. Also most of the time the governments get almost nothing out of deals as most treasure hunters do not actually make money. At best the government gets a few million in return for an obliterated site which is worthless for archaeology or tourism. Also a bunch of shiny stuff is worthless to a museum because the treasure hunters destroyed all the context that informs the stuff but it does help attract visitors in combination with the actual data which can provide education to the public and academia.

@dr.floridaman4805

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes leave I be let it rot, or do something. Cleaning up trash dumped by governments is a human duty. Even if the trash is "historic"

@UwU_for_Christ

Жыл бұрын

"makes a few rich people richer and leaves everyone else paying the cost" describes every economic system ever created

Its honestly such a shame that people only ever seem to focus on Caribbean pirates, when piracy was everywhere in history and so many epic stories get left out

@johnl.7754

Жыл бұрын

Like the likely Piracy that resulted in the gold/gems shipping it back to Portugal

@StuSaville

Жыл бұрын

Privateers were not pirates, they operated under a legal letter or marque which required them to obey strict rules of engagement. Every doubloon they seized had to be accounted for and handed over to the crown who would reward them with a percentage.

@danielschein6845

Жыл бұрын

@@StuSaville I'm sure that distinction was comforting to the sailors be robbed and killed.

@Whazzar

Жыл бұрын

@Caleb OKAY Zheng Yi Sao! Her rags to riches life is one hell of an epic story!

@raguelelnaqum

Жыл бұрын

@@StuSaville Speaking as a pirate historian, thats still piracy. Just state-sponsored piracy. Which is why privateers were still charged & executed as pirates by enemy nations. It's like how Spanish, French, Maltese, Barbery & Ottoman Corsairs, despite being members of the military and not mercenaries like Privateers, were tried & hung as pirates. Just because a crime is state-sponsored doesn't change the nature of the act. That kind of moronic rationale is used to justify even worse crimes like genocide.

For those confused - Portugal at this time was not allied with England because it had fallen into a personal union with Spain.

@mrguysnailz4907

Жыл бұрын

That was 1580-1640. Military alliances, back in the day especially, are never quite the friendly ties one might imagine.

@dater30

Жыл бұрын

​@@mrguysnailz4907 he made a mistake, the ship sunk in 1594, so yes it was during iberian union

I've really been enjoying these episodes from the Azores. My family comes from the Azores, but there aren't many memories of the islands left with my family, and there aren't a ton of accessible resources on them on youtube or anything either. So thanks guys

@Kiwigd

Жыл бұрын

I went thru the Azores in the late 80’s, sailing across the Atlantic. It was an intriguing place that I really enjoyed.

@paulmiller3517

Жыл бұрын

SVcDelos spent time at the Azores, they are a popular youtube sailing channel

@rm6176

8 ай бұрын

Ditto

"Propelled into a grave so opulent, even the Pharoahs would feel jealous". That's some frigging poetry there, Evan. Great line.

I just hope you know that as a Portuguese who wants to visit Açores since pretty much my entire life, these collection of videos as made me love the arquipélago even more. Your videos are amazingly written and the images you've collected from its people and landscapes really make them even better, keep up the good work, I just wish some of "my people" were as interested and invested in these stories as you are!

I can't put my finger on why, but Rare Earth has such a unique way of approaching different topics. Others might just focus on the size of the treasure, on ways to extract it. Evan focusses on the human side, especially the side of the locals, which probably doesn't get much attention on a global scale. I love it!

@user-mk5vj5bf3j

Жыл бұрын

Anthropological perspective

Evan, these videos are always so entertaining and informative: thank you for making such great content for us for free!

@Evanspar

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Just a few more weeks before I can afford my submarine. They won't even know the treasure's gone until I'm far away

What great cinematography. I really liked the drone shot around 8:00. I love these videos please keep them coming.

Great video. You guys consistently put out some of the highest quality stuff on youtube. Keep it up!

I think contemplating the immense riches and valiant fighting men from a windswept cafe table and warm drink is treasure enough for the modern pirate.

@conorkelly947

Жыл бұрын

who's valiant here the pirates or the conquistadors?

I'd argue that, they are worth more brought up but only if they are mostly on the island. A museum exhibit telling the history of the islands and its past as the blood soaked gateway back home. I'd see 20% as a suitable payment for the work and resources to locate and chart out where the majority of it went down. I'd also argue, that the actual retrieval should be done by government sanctioned archeologists. But that's just me

That was some incredible, top notch story telling.

5:47 THIS is an amazing shot! Love the story, love the socks. I'm going to go build myself a deepwater submarine so I can find me some tray-sure.

@shayneweyker

Жыл бұрын

I think the way the background is processed there makes it look like a green screen shot even though I very much doubt it is. That makes the shot feel fake.

Sure Evan - Your ancestors (and mine) were thieves. However, it's not like their Portuguese victims nobly acquired those gems in a fair trade from someone who received equal value in return. They stole it too. Back in those days, theft was how great fortunes were made. Maybe it should stay on the ocean bottom simply because no one today can credibly claim to be the rightful owner.

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer

Жыл бұрын

They're all mine bud sorry

@calvin3054

Жыл бұрын

Was going to say something similar. I wonder if it was in a great pile with its location know, how long it would take for the Portuguese narative "our ship, our coast, our treasure" to be drowned out by a stonger naravitve from India (and other nations) of "from our shores by colonial force, our treasure"

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

Жыл бұрын

Morons.. They traded for those gems.

@joaomrtins

Жыл бұрын

"Back in those days, theft was how great fortunes were made" Back in the days...

@SToNeOwNz

Жыл бұрын

I think that's part of why they stopped hunters going in them, while many claims are levied against British plunders i don't know if Portugal has the political sway to resist them.

If the experts are to be believed, the flags have bleached to unrecognizablity.

I love this worldwide, personally delivered anthropology series. Keep up the wonderful work!

Loving this series! Great video

Glad to see these videos coming out again!

incredible as always. Loving your recent video scheduling

You are such a great story teller!!

This channel is the real hidden treasure

Nice storytelling! Great presentation, love it. Subscribed.

The quality on these azores videos is amazing! And the color on this one is beautiful! I wish all your videos had this quality. I just recently discovered your channel and instanntly became a fan! One day, hopefully soon, I want to travel and make short documentaries. You are doing something similar to what I want to do and its amazing. I just hope that my writting and naration skills are half of yours 😅 Keep going, you are important! Much love - a Portuguese guy

there are much better comments already written but you rock man. love your work and humility. you are a treasure, thanks.

Great content. Appreciate it!

Absolutely love these videos. I look forward to them every Saturday

Woot passed 1 million!!!!! Congratulations 🎊 👏 💐 🥳. People are noticing how awesome your channel and informative ways of telling stories are. 😀 Thank you for the years of enlightenment into this marvelous world. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🤗

Congrats on 1 million subs

The storytelling and script for this was fantastic.

Evan, you are an amazing storyteller!

These are so beautiful, and so informative.

I love your videos, even on subjects I may not have otherwise had cared about, purely becauae of your writing. Thank you, please keep making this art

Love your work.

On these ships generally the powder magazine was seperate from the cargo.. Its most likely still in the chests it went down in. The blast would have taken the rear of the ship out and sunk it in a minute not obliterated the whole ship

@SToNeOwNz

Жыл бұрын

The spices would have been dried and finely crushed, i wonder if they could have triggered a dust explosion, first the black powder blows then the shock wave and fire ignited the spices. Would the privateers really have let their hard fought plunder be sunk? or did an unexpected explosion (of the spices) seal the fate of the endeavour?

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

Жыл бұрын

@@SToNeOwNz nar its just the poder going off.. Big bang.. But it dosnt obliterate the ship.. Just scuttles it.. But the sea is deep there

@Melody_Raventress

8 ай бұрын

Depends on the location of the magazine and where the stuff was stored. As much as there was, it probably would have been stuffed into every nook and cranny. There's also the fact that a mile is a LONG way to sink. Did the ship break up on the way down? This would also scatter the wreck.

Your style reminds me of CBS Sunday morning show and that’s a compliment, I think it’s your verbal cadence that sounds like professional journalism in the best way.

Insane. I used to live in the Azores when I was very young. I didn't know about this

I hear the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam can be found in Frostbite Falls, Minnesota! Your channel is fascinating and complex, thank you.

so glad to have you back. you have been missed

My family is from Terceira, I'm so happy to see some amazing Azores videos from you

....and if I find it, you better believe I'm fighting harder than those 600 people. Those gems belong to my country. But hey we all can wonder. Excellent video, Thanks.

Impeccable story telling! 🤝

The moon analogy is really good! Puts everything into perspective.

I love this friggin channel!

Interesting when you consider we do "mine" more recent shipwrecks from WWI and WWII for low-background steel, which is required for some radiation detecting equipment (though thanks to the test ban treaty, not for too much longer). If we apply the same moral standards to these much older wrecks, then unless it's a particularly notable wreck it should be open season on that treasure. Something like the flags on the moon is clearly fairly unique and very notable, but if there were thousands of them, would it be so bad to take one home to sell off?

@mrraimundo130

Жыл бұрын

Good point!

@zetijeti

Жыл бұрын

I think the WW ships are used to advance human knowledge (I hope), while treasure hunting can't

@Croz89

Жыл бұрын

@@zetijeti In the end though, those taking the steel are still doing so for profit.

@Frommerman

Жыл бұрын

I'd say the difference is that low-background steel has unique utility which can't be replicated through any other means (at least for now), while gold and gems do not. If we want to be able to make precision radiation detection systems (which I will point out you need in things like nuclear reactors, which humanity absolutely needs to be building right now), those historical sites are (or were, at least) literally the only way to make them. But one massive hoard of jewels is pretty much exactly like any other, in terms of what you can do with it: not much, as it turns out. Rubies have no industrial applications, and while gold definitely does we're already using over half of what we've ever dug up to make decorative thread. Nobody needs the contents of those historical sites. Which is why they should remain historical sites.

@tomfeng5645

Жыл бұрын

​@@Frommerman low-background steel *can* be manufactured, but it would be significantly more expensive than otherwise mostly due to economies of scale. The bigger difference IMO is going to be in my next comment. If you'd like to know, while some contamination is from the atmosphere, which is only important in extreme-low-radiation requirements and can *still* be worked around, the majority of the contamination is actually from the testing processes, where radioactive elements are used to non-destructively measure the structure/stability of the various foundry components and lax standards means contamination happens. These measures use by-products of nuclear reactions, and so only appear in the post-atomic world. It's perfectly possible to return to old standards or at least reduce contamination in modern methods, but the foundries won't bother spending that bit of extra money to make steel in a way that only a very few users care about. This means only specialty producers in expensive small-scale manufacturing can produce new low-background steel, making it uneconomical to do so when scrap low-background steel is still accessible. Note that much of the illegally scrapped ww2 steel is not even sold as low-background steel since for obvious reasons the source of the steel is not verifiable by the buyer.

Solid episode, my dude.

great video !!

Thank you for the info.

another absolute banger of a video

7:50 If you really want to question the value brought on by an auction, read Salman Rushdie's "At the Auction of the Ruby Slippers" in his "East, West" collection.

Well, thanks to the end credits, now I want a video of Evan singing "Barrett's Privateers"!

Considering that it does nobody any good just sitting at the bottom of the ocean, and considering that it will likely just continue to sit there degrading and unseen, I think its worth it to get at that all that stuff. Anything historical belongs in a museum, and raw resources like gold bars could be incredibly useful. Its better to make use of gold that was mined and refined hundreds of years ago than it is to rip up some pristine rainforest or canyon to mine and refine more gold today. The only reason that these wrecks will be left alone is because it feels wrong to mess with them, even though the people stealing treasure for the crown or the pirates who sunk them clearly didn't care a whole lot more about the actual stuff save for its value. I think a similar philosophy applies to ancient coins. Once any historical data is gathered from them, and enough is available for everybody to enjoy in museums, its okay if collectors can get their hands on a few and appreciate them instead of just having them buried in dirt for centuries to come. Which is exactly what tends to happen, since coins don't tend to require a massive operation to dig up and often are just found by accident.

@johnl.7754

Жыл бұрын

But then sooner or later during an economic emergency it might be sold since I don’t know really how much historical feelings they will have with something they stole from South/Central America.

@Melody_Raventress

8 ай бұрын

​@@johnl.7754it's going to be lost to time, regardless. Better to be appreciated by people than the fish.

@Melody_Raventress

8 ай бұрын

OP, Evan said it in the video, it's due to technical and extracted value vs. risk reasons that's keeping that stuff staying down there, not some law. Ships of far less value are being stripped of their (pre-nuke) steel, so if someone COULD extract that money, they would.

I love how both the Brits and Portuguese feel sad over treasures they pilfered from India and Indonesia, if found, return the damn stuff to our countries lmao

I like your take on it at the end.

Thanks for the video Evan :) Some things are really worth preserving I do agree. What are we without our history? Humans need these legends and tales to build our societies. Having an extra buck always seems good, but does it really worth it when we lose these things in the process and forget where we came from?

7:50 The writer Andy Weir makes that very point in his book "Artemis" which takes place in the first city (town really) on the moon. In the book, the original moon landing site is so honoured that a huge visitor's center is specially built to allow people to "look but don't touch". Visitors that have the dosh to do an EVA are prevented from getting any closer to the site than they would inside the visitor's center. It is preserved just as it was after the ascent of the Lunar Module back to Columbia. By the way, thanks for the Marvin the Martian reference. Who knew that the English pirates had an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator? Obviously the story about the powder magazine was just a cover up to hide England's highly advanced (and possibly extraterrestrial) weapons capability!🤣😂

@gsurfer04

Жыл бұрын

The animated series Planetes also has a similar city with the first moon landing site preserved within.

@michaelcherry8952

Жыл бұрын

@@gsurfer04 Cool!🙂

love all your videos, the ones based in the azores have a special feel to em though.

perhaps the real treasure is the friendship we made along the way

Talking about british pirates, and then 5:45 socks XD. You have chosen your side Sir

Skeletons dissolve in the ocean water over time, so I guess nobody would reap gems from the deathly heads of drowned sailors, that's for certain.

Even while enjoying the video, couldnt help spare a few thoughts for the labourers who worked on originally extracting those precious minerals.. who were the -men only, or perhaps women and children too? Also, in whichever lands the riches were "extracted" from did the people feel a sense of loss over it [as the Azoreans did when they stopped further recoveries]? Maybe the local elite did receive some compensation; was it fair by today's measures, did they even care? 😆 Intriguing captivating and informative as always, thank you.

@Melody_Raventress

8 ай бұрын

Indeed, that's very true. Who were those children? (they were children) Where did they come from? Who loved them? What kind of (short, horrible) life did they live? History is built on such lives (like ours! Probably) but their stories are lost. Sad.

It seems like this would definitely be worth the salvage under Maritime salvage law

Oh my gawd one pieceeee is real aint it, can we get much higherrrrr yar har

You had me at “Earth Shattering Kaboom” ya beautiful pirate

i wasn’t expecting the best after credits scene in a rare earth video, but we got it

As other commenters have pointed out, the places that treasure was dug up from might also have opinions on who that treasure belongs too.

@iiiiitsmagreta1240

Жыл бұрын

ikr? Surprised the Indian people this treasure was likely being stolen from didn't warrant a mention. You don't acquire $40bil without robbing _someone_

@alejandroojeda1572

Жыл бұрын

@@iiiiitsmagreta1240I think generally riches are Split half and half between the "historical" owner (that would be the portuguese) and the "water rights" owner. So in this case brazil (from which all that gold probably came from) would get nothing. As a spaniard this kinda thing appears in the news from time to time. I think Colombia (or was It Venezuela?) Found a shipwreck recently and they're not digfing It Up because half of It would go to Spain per the rules previously stated. Americans are especially Notorious for digfing Up sites and then find out surprised that the treasure IS legally not theirs.

@miguelpimentel5623

Жыл бұрын

Indian treasure being stolen wasn't mentioned because it wasn't fucking stolen. The Portuguese in the XVI century were trading all over Asia, selling goods and making profit (gold and silver) which they were bringing back to Portugal. We are talking about 1500s not 1800s, at this point in history Portugal was just creating outposts and trading, and the Indian kingdoms were still very powerful, and Portugal was just filling the role of ocean trader after defeating the ottomans

@gota7738

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelpimentel5623 Cool. Did not mention India or even the word 'stolen'. Though Portugal's Empire began in 1415 took Goa in 1510 which held the capital of the Portuguese State of India untill 1961.

@miguelpimentel5623

Жыл бұрын

@@gota7738 goa was literally just a trading post/state, the gold was mined by someone somewhere who whilingly traded that gold for something else, so they have no right to opinionate who that gold belongs to

The socks were a nice touch, LOL

The flag on the moon was intentionally left there, but treasures accidentally sunk to the bottom of the ocean will be destroyed by nature and never be seen by anyone unless archeologists retrieve it after which at least it can make some tourism money and be worth historical value.

Next time you’re stateside I’ve got a story you should check out. The lost silver mine outside Tionesta Pennsylvania. If you know how to find the obscure on line then you can find the little information there is. The story is a blip on the radar, but it’s an interesting story.

your advendures have been following me for many years now and I want to thank you for bringing me light and smiles in historical; sometimes terrible; facts. Don't stop, ever, being so curious and respectful. You; at least; earn my respect. But don't ever let the web tell you if it's right or wrong.

That was excellent.

I briefly studied maritime archaeology and history as an undergrad. Shipwreck sites are MAJOR for local tourist industries, researchers, and field experience - worth infinitely more in situ, not only economically, but culturally. For a more in-depth example, anyone who's interested in this topic should check out 'Captain Kidd's Lost Ship: The Wreck of the Quedagh Merchant' by Frederick H. Hanselmann. The author poignantly illustrates how shipwrecks, from a theoretical framework involving early Colonial world systems, prove themselves to be historically indispensable cultural resources - valuable not merely in their contents, but in what they represent - the commercial activities and the sociopolitical implications of their times.

My grandad wrote in his will to his children and grandchildren: "Earth's gold is heaven's mold." As I get older, it becomes more and more obvious to me, that for someone to get rich and wealthy, someone else becomes starving poor. Sad facts of life.

@1le0x_

Ай бұрын

"for someone to get rich and wealthy, someone else becomes starving poor." Do not need to be always that way. The Portuguese traded a lot of things and have distributed wealth and knowledge through out the world, you statement is wrong in so many ways

That closing statement was rather ridiculous, the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance is the worlds longest bromance dating back to 1373. The sinking of the Cinco Chagas occurred during the period of the Iberian Union when Portugal briefly lost its independence to the Spanish Habsburgs.

Really enjoyed the closer part about "my ancestry". Hit perfect

"When we return to the moon." Lol thats a good one

If the ship exploded, its likely that it was blown to pieces, and everything is scattered

Happy to see KZread popped this right up. Subscribed channels seem to be hit or miss these days.

The funny thing is: You say diamonds on the ocean floor don't attract a single tourist. Yet a KZreadr with a million subscribers visits the island and makes a video about it. Proving yourself wrong.

@Mussi93

Жыл бұрын

@@adriennefloreen Diving gear for those depths?

Reminds me of a TV series I'm watching now - La Fortuna.

Lol. Always great work.

And where did those riches come from in the first place. A large chunk of them were 100 % ripped away, literally or figuratively, from some dead men's hands in their places of origin.

@stoops187

Жыл бұрын

That’s all riches throughout the entire world since the beginning of mankind tho…

@hihosh1

Жыл бұрын

@@stoops187 Exactly

@spencerhansen8374

Жыл бұрын

So you're saying mostly figuratively, since you haven't a clue who or where, just an unjustified indignation over someone else's plight. Now they aren't where they came from and the hands that touched them on either side of the argument are long dead. Besides, are you going to be the "authority" to discern the "chunk" that wasn't ripped from some figuratively dead guys now boney hand?

Love a good pirate story

Here be pirates

So you are assuming the way the Portugese got the treasure was all up to modern standards? ;)

Holy mixed metaphors, hyenas hunting elephants in the jungle

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

The spotted hyenas of the Indian jungle hunt elephant.

Finders keepers and the only reason people give two cents is because someone else found it. Jealousy is rampant among the human race because without treasure hunters you would never have the opportunity to examine such antiquities .

good video... the sunken ships are archeology and treasure hunters would have to disturb a lot to uncover the treasure!

3:12 - This game looks very riveting!

I don't know how the law works in the Azores. But in the UK you get a finder's reward when you hand in treasure. Surely that system is reasonable for a rich archeological area as most metal detectors then mark a finds location meaning the objects don't lose their archeological context.

As a Portuguese, you can't imagine how triggered I was when this guy saying stealing from the Portuguese is his ancestry 😂

Hmm. Once I have a crew, and get me some gum gum fruit, I'm in for an adventure! Yahooooooo!

I love the credits. I lauged in Atlantic Canadian.

Speaking of ancestry, what about the lands from which the treasure originally came from? What about the people there? They were under a ruler and their land was stripped of these riches. Were they adequately compensated? Can the descendants stake a claim for these riches?

@realitycheck6384

Жыл бұрын

Bro, just scroll through the comments and you'll notice that only the people who come from ethnic backgrounds where the Europeans stole all of this from are making this argument. Kind of exposes the prejudice and ignorance of the people in this community towards the rights of those exploited colonies and people that belong to those backgrounds.

@vignesham4030

Жыл бұрын

@@realitycheck6384 Yup, so true. Westerners and Europeans in particular seems to have gotten mass amnesia whenever exploitation of colonialism is brought up.

@rishitchithirala2977

Жыл бұрын

@@realitycheck6384 honestly yeah, just saw lmao

haha love the ending

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